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Re: K3s RX Ant port question

Richard Williams
 

I would obtain  a DX Engineering Receiver Guard RF Limiter (DXE- RG5000HD.  Have used one for years in front of my receive antennas (Beverages,  HiZ 8, and SAL 30), and two of the three are close to my 160M phased verticals. 

And no, the RX port does not disconnect during transmit.

Dick, K8ZTT 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 21:06, Don Jones
<ko7i@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Does the rx ant port disconnect during transmit? Do I need to install a TR switch on the rx ant port to protect the K3? Running 1500w with tx & rx ant's in close proximity to each other. Don't want to smoke my K3S. 
I'm not finding a straight answer in the manual. I do have a automatic tuner installed. 
Thanks, Don KO7I

Edit,
I  do have the sub receiver installed. 


K3s throwing a "HIGH CURR" error after installing K144XV and Reference Phase Lock Option

Clay Autery
 

Just what the title says....  I installed a new K144XV and Reference Oscillator Phase Lock Option tonight.

When I hit the band switch to go up to the 2 meter band, it thru a HIGH CURR error.

I followed the directions in both install manuals precisely (as appropriate for a K3s as enhanced), and double checked BOTH sets of steps after getting the error.
IF I disco the power, wait, reconnect, and then power up (provided I switch bands out of 2 meters), the error goes away.  But if I switch back to 2 meters, it throws the error again.

I am going to go in and remove the REFLock option and try to just get the K144XV to "work".
The status light flashes just as described in the manual for "normal operation".  (once or twice on power up, then OFF)
I've verified the supply voltage and current are "normal"  14.2 VDC at 1.47 amps (higher because the subRX was installed a couple days ago.

Any ideas as to what is causing this "issue"?  I'm missing all my weekend nets.  <wink>

73,

-- 
______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389


K3s RX Ant port question

Don Jones
 
Edited

Does the rx ant port disconnect during transmit? Do I need to install a TR switch on the rx ant port to protect the K3? Running 1500w with tx & rx ant's in close proximity to each other. Don't want to smoke my K3S. 
I'm not finding a straight answer in the manual. I do have a automatic tuner installed. 
Thanks, Don KO7I

Edit,
I  do have the sub receiver installed. 


Re: internal tuners sold out

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

All sounds good to me. Forward progress is always favorable.

Bob, K4TAX

On Jan 11, 2020, at 9:30 PM, N6KR <n6kr@elecraft.com> wrote:

Greetings all,

The K4 is the replacement for the K3S + P3. This is a long-planned transition, and we've gradually drawn down stocks of the latter, including all options.

I'm sorry we can't provide options for all of our legacy products indefinitely. But we will of course continue to repair and otherwise support them.

We have three complete transceiver product lines aside from the K3S: The ultraportable KX2, its larger brother the KX3 (used by many hams as a compact home station), and the K4, our first hybrid-SDR desktop radio (with matching KPA1500 amp). All are very much active and will be for the foreseeable future.

73,
Wayne
N6KR





Re: internal tuners sold out

Clay Autery
 

It is so unnecessary to get "butt hurt" over the natural product cycle.  Jut because some of the major assemblies may not be continually stocked on the K3, certainly does not mean that anyone is "abandoning" anyone.
Come on people.... that's simply unfair to say, and highly inaccurate.

I'm sorry I posted to this thread now. 

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 01/11/20 19:16, dalej via Groups.Io wrote:

I suppse as for the “business model”, but for the rest of us it’s called an abandoment in some way.  However I’ll stick with the K3/K3s as long as the parts are available, then move on to something else, Icom perhaps.  

Dale, K9VUJ


On 11, Jan 2020, at 18:41, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...> wrote:

The K3 radio is 10 years old and is a discontinued model.   The KX line is much newer and the K4 series is even newer.   I see this as a normal business model and activity. 

Bob, K4TAX



On Jan 11, 2020, at 5:45 PM, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

 Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay

_._,_._,_


Re: internal tuners sold out

 

Greetings all,

The K4 is the replacement for the K3S + P3. This is a long-planned transition, and we've gradually drawn down stocks of the latter, including all options.

I'm sorry we can't provide options for all of our legacy products indefinitely. But we will of course continue to repair and otherwise support them.

We have three complete transceiver product lines aside from the K3S: The ultraportable KX2, its larger brother the KX3 (used by many hams as a compact home station), and the K4, our first hybrid-SDR desktop radio (with matching KPA1500 amp). All are very much active and will be for the foreseeable future.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


Re: internal tuners sold out --- Elecraft criticism

Bill K9YEQ
 

Please this is not a fair assessment.  If we want Elecraft to be successful and appreciate the superior products, mainly made in US, then take a look at the reality of the other vendors in the HAM market.  Which other company has been customer service friendly, on line support, rig updates and flexibility.  The K3 is a great radio, and you can continue using it and get support.  Look at the K2.  What a remarkable radio and you can still get online support.  How old is it?  20+ years.  What other vendor has done this.  I think the criticsism is unduly harsh.  Flame on!

 

73,

Bill

K9YEQ

 

https://wrj-tech.com/

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of dalej via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:16 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] internal tuners sold out

 

I suppse as for the “business model”, but for the rest of us it’s called an abandoment in some way.  However I’ll stick with the K3/K3s as long as the parts are available, then move on to something else, Icom perhaps.  

 

Dale, K9VUJ

 

 

On 11, Jan 2020, at 18:41, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...> wrote:

 

The K3 radio is 10 years old and is a discontinued model.   The KX line is much newer and the K4 series is even newer.   I see this as a normal business model and activity. 

Bob, K4TAX

 

 



On Jan 11, 2020, at 5:45 PM, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

 

Dale, K9VUJ

 

 

 

On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

 

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

 

Dale, K9VUJ

 

 

 

On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

 

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.

AFTER MY order....

  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay

 

 

 


Re: internal tuners sold out

Dale, K9VUJ
 

I suppse as for the “business model”, but for the rest of us it’s called an abandoment in some way.  However I’ll stick with the K3/K3s as long as the parts are available, then move on to something else, Icom perhaps.  

Dale, K9VUJ


On 11, Jan 2020, at 18:41, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...> wrote:

The K3 radio is 10 years old and is a discontinued model.   The KX line is much newer and the K4 series is even newer.   I see this as a normal business model and activity. 

Bob, K4TAX



On Jan 11, 2020, at 5:45 PM, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay





Re: internal tuners sold out

Dale, K9VUJ
 

K4?  Not me.  If I wanted a rig with that same design Id by a 7610 for half the price.  For now, I’ll stick with the K3 of which I have two.  

Cheers
Dale, K9VUJ


On 11, Jan 2020, at 18:12, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Hardly....  I cannot imagine the overhead required to support the entire K3s K-line an then also the New K4 (in all its permutations) and the KPA-1500, etc, etc...

The K3 has had a wonderfully successful run.  I've stuffed mine full of every option I can find, and look forward to several more decades of using it until I pass it on to one of my children.

Now to work on a strategy to create a "need" for a K4HD/KPA1500 combo....  <big smile>

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 01/11/20 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io wrote:
It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay




Re: internal tuners sold out

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

The K3 radio is 10 years old and is a discontinued model.   The KX line is much newer and the K4 series is even newer.   I see this as a normal business model and activity. 

Bob, K4TAX



On Jan 11, 2020, at 5:45 PM, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay




Re: internal tuners sold out

Clay Autery
 

Hardly....  I cannot imagine the overhead required to support the entire K3s K-line an then also the New K4 (in all its permutations) and the KPA-1500, etc, etc...

The K3 has had a wonderfully successful run.  I've stuffed mine full of every option I can find, and look forward to several more decades of using it until I pass it on to one of my children.

Now to work on a strategy to create a "need" for a K4HD/KPA1500 combo....  <big smile>

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 01/11/20 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay



Re: internal tuners sold out

Dale, K9VUJ
 

I was going to order a couple of items, SP3, but when I found the shipping from California was $36, I said forget it.  Why is UPS shipping for a small light box to be $36??

The SP3 is a very good speaker, but at $200 (rounded off) then add another $36 for shipping, it’s too much.  

Dale, K9VUJ

On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:53, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

My only a guess, is it’s the change of *contractors* to employees per the California state law, plus additional requirments for small businesses in California.  I would advise Elecraft to reform their business to another state which is more small business frendly. Maybe Texas for one.  

Plus, you won’t have to deal with an earthquake that is coming sometime in the future.  

Cheers

Dale, K9VUJ

 

On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:40, NS2N_PTA@... wrote:

I also surprised by this ... I think of the K3S as a "new" radio. Was going to upgrade one of my elder K3 rigs, but if stuff isn't available ... for repair/replacement ...

Besides, is the K4 tuner so radically different than a K3 model? I'd have thought they were identical .. that tuner is not a weak point in the system. Or was it?


From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> on behalf of dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 6:33:00 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] internal tuners sold out
 
Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay






Re: internal tuners sold out

Dale, K9VUJ
 

My only a guess, is it’s the change of *contractors* to employees per the California state law, plus additional requirments for small businesses in California.  I would advise Elecraft to reform their business to another state which is more small business frendly. Maybe Texas for one.  

Plus, you won’t have to deal with an earthquake that is coming sometime in the future.  

Cheers

Dale, K9VUJ

 

On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:40, NS2N_PTA@... wrote:

I also surprised by this ... I think of the K3S as a "new" radio. Was going to upgrade one of my elder K3 rigs, but if stuff isn't available ... for repair/replacement ...

Besides, is the K4 tuner so radically different than a K3 model? I'd have thought they were identical .. that tuner is not a weak point in the system. Or was it?


From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> on behalf of dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 6:33:00 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] internal tuners sold out
 
Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay





Re: internal tuners sold out

Clay Autery
 

That right there is the definition of AWESOMENESS!!!

THIS is why I am an Elecrafter....

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 01/11/20 12:35, N6KR wrote:

Chuck,

I have a lab spare that's fully functional that I'll send you. What's your address?

Wayne
N6KR



On Jan 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Chuck Miller <cwmiller20@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Checked with Elecraft to see about ordering an internal tuner for my old K3. Sorry all gone. Guess I waited a little too long.
Chuck, N0NC





Re: KPA500 replacement fan supplier in UK ?

Clay Autery
 

Robert....  Have you tried Newark?  Pretty sure that they have a warehouse in the UK....  I have ordered parts from Newark that were only available in the UK.

Here is the search string I used to bring up seven possible candidates for you:

https://www.newark.com/w/c/cooling-thermal-management/fans-blowers/axial-fans?supply-voltage=48v&current-type=dc&fan-frame-size=92mm&external-depth=38mm


Re: internal tuners sold out

NS2N_PTA@outlook.com
 

I also surprised by this ... I think of the K3S as a "new" radio. Was going to upgrade one of my elder K3 rigs, but if stuff isn't available ... for repair/replacement ...

Besides, is the K4 tuner so radically different than a K3 model? I'd have thought they were identical .. that tuner is not a weak point in the system. Or was it?


From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> on behalf of dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 6:33:00 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] internal tuners sold out
 
Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay




Re: internal tuners sold out

Ed Pflueger
 

Probably a new product I would assume.  I just sent my K3 2971 off to them for a minor repair and check out and it wasn’t a big deal.  Having a 13 year old rig and still top of the line in performance is.  If you haven’t bought one in 13 years you apparently didn’t need it.  Hi

 

Ed AB4IQ

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of dalej via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 5:33 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] internal tuners sold out

 

Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

 

Dale, K9VUJ

 

 

 

On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

 

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

 

Dale, K9VUJ

 

 

 

On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

 

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.

AFTER MY order....

  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay

 

 


Re: internal tuners sold out

Dave (NK7Z)
 

I was wondering the same thing... Hopefully Wayne will come in and clear up what is happening.

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources

On 1/11/20 3:33 PM, dalej via Groups.Io wrote:
Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??
Dale, K9VUJ
On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2=mac.com@groups.io <mailto:dalej2=mac.com@groups.io>> wrote:
It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.
Dale, K9VUJ
On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@montac.com <mailto:KY5G@montac.com>> wrote:
Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.
I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...
*Here's the status I got on December 30th*:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)
* KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
* KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
* K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time. Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for
purchase from vendor.
* K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
* KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
* KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did
not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy
them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
* KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S
filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this
time but they will probably go fast
* SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined
whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
*AFTER MY order....*
* I got the last *KRX3A* NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year
factory warranty)
* Got one of the *KBPF3A*, but they have plenty.
* *K144xv*, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
* *K144rflk*, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in
stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
* *KFL3A-6K*, I got another one...  more limited now.
* *KFL3a-2.8*, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in
Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
* *KFL3A-400*, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole
with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only
6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD
and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW
synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST
the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the
heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another
$170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand
having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2
receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
* *SP3*, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.
73,
Clay


Re: internal tuners sold out

Dale, K9VUJ
 

Having been and still are an Elecraft owner since 2007, I’m a bit taken aback from the sudden abandonment of the K3/s line of radios and the acsssories/options.  What is going on that has caused this change??  

Dale, K9VUJ



On 11, Jan 2020, at 17:20, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay




Re: internal tuners sold out

Dale, K9VUJ
 

It almost apears they are going out of business.  Sad to see this.

Dale, K9VUJ



On 10, Jan 2020, at 23:28, Clay Autery <KY5G@...> wrote:

Yep....  IF you want K3(s) parts, especially major assemblies, you'd best get them soon.

I got THE last NIB sub-RX on the shelf a week or so ago...  They DO have some factory refurbs available...

Here's the status I got on December 30th:  (I'll bet it's changed a bunch since then.  NOTE: this is only a list of statuses on the parts I was ordering.)

  • KRX3A:  9 available as refurbished (reworked, not necessarily used).
  • KBPF3A: plenty of stock available for the foreseeable future
  • K144xv:  we have only a handful of these at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase from vendor.
  • K144rflk:  we have approximately 10 in stock - most in refurbished
  • KFL3A-6K:  limited availability
  • KFL3a-2.8:  we have about 15 or 20 of these at this time.  If we did not have them available when you want them you could most likely buy them directly from our vendor (Vibroplex).
  • KFL3A-400:  this is probably one of the 2 most popular K3/K3S filters.  We do have a good number of these available at this time but they will probably go fast
  • SP3;  we have 25 of these available at this time.  Undetermined whether or not there will be another work order for purchase/build.
AFTER MY order....
  • I got the last KRX3A NIB, so maybe still the 9 re-worked (1 year factory warranty)
  • Got one of the KBPF3A, but they have plenty.
  • K144xv, I got one, so the handful they had is smaller.
  • K144rflk, I got one of the last new ones...  leas than 10 in stock, and you SHOULD have one of these with the K144xv
  • KFL3A-6K, I got another one...  more limited now.
  • KFL3a-2.8, I got TWO, They were the older INRAD brand 8-pole in Faraday cage, not the newer "Vibroplex"
  • KFL3A-400, I got one of these.... BUT it was NOT the INRAD 8-pole with a Faraday cage... It was the "new" Vibroplex part... only 6-pole and has an offset.  Elecraft support told me that my INRAD and Vibroplex filters will "play nice" because of the NEW synthesizers I have in my K3s...  Said to put the offset for JUST the sub-RX in ONLY the subRX field and "let the synthesizers do the heavy lifting."  THIS bothers me, and I may well drop yet another $170.00 on a matching Vibroplex part...  I don't know if I can stand having wildly different filters in the same position on the 2 receivers....  I think it will drive me nuts.
  • SP3, I got TWO...  They now have 23 or fewer.



73,
Clay


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