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Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

Bill Mader
 

Regarding logging programs, I have frequently seen the rate meter on N1MM+ rise above 200 QSO's/hour.  Try doing that with paper and pen and still avoid duplicates!

Daily loggers like DXLab Suite make tracking awards simple.  Additionally, the many features make it very powerful and useful.

Unless you're operating FD and saying "Please Copy", the time has passed for paper and pen to have any value except as a back-up for a Windows-caused re-boot.  Like the radios tied to the loggers, users need to RTFM and practice.  I would be without an electronic logger as much as I would give up my solder station--not in this lifetime!

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 4-13 Sep 2020
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Duke City Hamfest BoD Vice-Chairman www.dukecityhamfest.org 18-20 Sep 2020
Secretary and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association 


--
73, Bill Mader, K8TE
K-Line, KX3, KX1, K2
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 4-13 Sep 2020
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Duke City Hamfest BoD Vice-Chairman www.dukecityhamfest.org 18-20 Sep 2020
Secretary and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association 


Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output, SOLVED (Kind of)

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

If you use a RS-232 to USB converter and it has Prolific chip set, that is most likely the problem.  Many have counterfeit devices and Windows drivers do not work reliably.  

The RS-232 to USB converter with the FDTI chipset is 100% reliable and the Windows drivers are correct.    The others are less expensive and are basically junk.   Has nothing to do with Windows 10.

The best and most reliable and highly supported device here in the USA is the USB-RTS03 from R T Systems.  

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 9:29 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Tried all the USB suggestions without any suggestions..
 
Soooo.....
  Someone mentioned they used native RS-232 (Like in the good old days).
 
My computer is old enough that it has a hardware RS-232 port on the bac.
 
Connected a through RS-232 com cable from the RS-232 port to the K3 and everything seems to be working fine now.
Something to do with Windows 10 and USB or the USB/Com converter cable.
 
 
 
THANKS everyone for their input and assistance.
 
 
 
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
From: 'John H. Long Jr.' <john@...>
Date: 11/18/19 8:10 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Where / how do I do that?
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
From: 'Ed Pflueger' <ab4iq@...>
Date: 11/18/19 1:49 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Need to turn the USB sleep or power mode to OFF in Windows.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:26 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
> McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
>
> USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer. Not using any RS-
> 232 converter. The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
> > How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?
> >
> > Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.
> >
> > - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
> >> Pflueger
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues
> >>
> >> Ed.. AB4IQ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On
> >> Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command
> >> on initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.
> >>
> >> With WSJT-X I have the following values:
> >>
> >> PTT Method = CAT
> >>
> >> Data Bits = 8
> >>
> >> Stop Bits = 1
> >>
> >> Handshake = None
> >>
> >> Mode = Data/Pkt
> >>
> >> Split Operation = Rig
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Bob, K4TAX
> >>
> >> On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
> >>> Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the
> >>> K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio
> >>> control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead
> >>> configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In
> >>> N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
> >>> (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
> >>> the PTT method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>








Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

Go to Device Manager in the Control Panel.  Then expand the line Ports (Com & LPT), then click on the device for the radio.  It will be USB Serial Port (Com #x).   That will open the port and show the Properties.  Then click on the tap Port Settings.   Then click the box ADVANCED.  In the lower right under Miscellaneous Options,  un-select all the boxes except Serial Enumerator.   Choosing the DEFAULT option will do the same thing.

Then X out {upper right corner} of all the screens.


On 11/18/2019 9:10 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Where / how do I do that?
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
From: 'Ed Pflueger' <ab4iq@...>
Date: 11/18/19 1:49 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Need to turn the USB sleep or power mode to OFF in Windows.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:26 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
> McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
>
> USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer. Not using any RS-
> 232 converter. The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
> > How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?
> >
> > Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.
> >
> > - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
> >> Pflueger
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues
> >>
> >> Ed.. AB4IQ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On
> >> Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command
> >> on initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.
> >>
> >> With WSJT-X I have the following values:
> >>
> >> PTT Method = CAT
> >>
> >> Data Bits = 8
> >>
> >> Stop Bits = 1
> >>
> >> Handshake = None
> >>
> >> Mode = Data/Pkt
> >>
> >> Split Operation = Rig
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Bob, K4TAX
> >>
> >> On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
> >>> Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the
> >>> K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio
> >>> control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead
> >>> configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In
> >>> N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
> >>> (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
> >>> the PTT method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>









Intermittent xmit pulse output, SOLVED (Kind of)

John H. Long Jr. <john@...>
 

Tried all the USB suggestions without any suggestions..
 
Soooo.....
  Someone mentioned they used native RS-232 (Like in the good old days).
 
My computer is old enough that it has a hardware RS-232 port on the bac.
 
Connected a through RS-232 com cable from the RS-232 port to the K3 and everything seems to be working fine now.
Something to do with Windows 10 and USB or the USB/Com converter cable.
 
 
 
THANKS everyone for their input and assistance.
 
 
 
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
From: 'John H. Long Jr.' <john@...>
Date: 11/18/19 8:10 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Where / how do I do that?
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
From: 'Ed Pflueger' <ab4iq@...>
Date: 11/18/19 1:49 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Need to turn the USB sleep or power mode to OFF in Windows.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:26 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
> McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
>
> USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer. Not using any RS-
> 232 converter. The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
> > How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?
> >
> > Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.
> >
> > - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
> >> Pflueger
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues
> >>
> >> Ed.. AB4IQ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On
> >> Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command
> >> on initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.
> >>
> >> With WSJT-X I have the following values:
> >>
> >> PTT Method = CAT
> >>
> >> Data Bits = 8
> >>
> >> Stop Bits = 1
> >>
> >> Handshake = None
> >>
> >> Mode = Data/Pkt
> >>
> >> Split Operation = Rig
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Bob, K4TAX
> >>
> >> On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
> >>> Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the
> >>> K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio
> >>> control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead
> >>> configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In
> >>> N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
> >>> (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
> >>> the PTT method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>








Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

John H. Long Jr. <john@...>
 

Where / how do I do that?
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
From: 'Ed Pflueger' <ab4iq@...>
Date: 11/18/19 1:49 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Need to turn the USB sleep or power mode to OFF in Windows.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:26 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
> McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
>
> USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer. Not using any RS-
> 232 converter. The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
> > How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?
> >
> > Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.
> >
> > - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
> >> Pflueger
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues
> >>
> >> Ed.. AB4IQ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On
> >> Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command
> >> on initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.
> >>
> >> With WSJT-X I have the following values:
> >>
> >> PTT Method = CAT
> >>
> >> Data Bits = 8
> >>
> >> Stop Bits = 1
> >>
> >> Handshake = None
> >>
> >> Mode = Data/Pkt
> >>
> >> Split Operation = Rig
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Bob, K4TAX
> >>
> >> On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
> >>> Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the
> >>> K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio
> >>> control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead
> >>> configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In
> >>> N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
> >>> (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
> >>> the PTT method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>









Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Gary K9GS
 

Hi Ray

The K3EZ software is for controlling the K3..nothing to do with computer power management settings for USB ports.

Great software though.







73,

Gary K9GS

-------- Original message --------
From: Ray Maxfield <wa6vab@...>
Date: 11/18/19 8:07 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

Gary….Long ago , in the early days there was an App I used under Window 7,

Called  K3EZ,  it might Help you….. WA6VAB

 

From: Gary K9GS
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 5:35 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

 

It sure would be nice if someone wrote a utility to do the power management settings. 

 

It's a small chore having to check settings every time a new USB device is added. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

73,

 

Gary K9GS

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Ed Pflueger <ab4iq@...>

Date: 11/18/19 2:49 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

 

Need to turn the USB sleep or power mode to OFF in Windows.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:26 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
> McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
>
> USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer.   Not using any RS-
> 232 converter.  The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
> > How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?
> >
> > Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.
> >
> > - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
> >> Pflueger
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> That's the way mine is Bob.  No Issues
> >>
> >> Ed.. AB4IQ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On
> >> Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command
> >> on initialization of the application.  See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.
> >>
> >> With WSJT-X I have the following values:
> >>
> >> PTT Method = CAT
> >>
> >> Data Bits = 8
> >>
> >> Stop Bits = 1
> >>
> >> Handshake = None
> >>
> >> Mode = Data/Pkt
> >>
> >> Split Operation = Rig
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Bob, K4TAX
> >>
> >> On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
> >>> Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the
> >>> K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio
> >>> control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead
> >>> configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In
> >>> N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
> >>> (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
> >>> the PTT method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>








 


Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Ray Maxfield
 

Gary….Long ago , in the early days there was an App I used under Window 7,

Called  K3EZ,  it might Help you….. WA6VAB

 

From: Gary K9GS
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 5:35 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

 

It sure would be nice if someone wrote a utility to do the power management settings. 

 

It's a small chore having to check settings every time a new USB device is added. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

73,

 

Gary K9GS

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Ed Pflueger <ab4iq@...>

Date: 11/18/19 2:49 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

 

Need to turn the USB sleep or power mode to OFF in Windows.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:26 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
> McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
>
> USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer.   Not using any RS-
> 232 converter.  The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
> > How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?
> >
> > Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.
> >
> > - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
> >> Pflueger
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> That's the way mine is Bob.  No Issues
> >>
> >> Ed.. AB4IQ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On
> >> Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command
> >> on initialization of the application.  See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.
> >>
> >> With WSJT-X I have the following values:
> >>
> >> PTT Method = CAT
> >>
> >> Data Bits = 8
> >>
> >> Stop Bits = 1
> >>
> >> Handshake = None
> >>
> >> Mode = Data/Pkt
> >>
> >> Split Operation = Rig
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Bob, K4TAX
> >>
> >> On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
> >>> Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the
> >>> K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio
> >>> control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead
> >>> configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In
> >>> N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
> >>> (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
> >>> the PTT method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>








 


Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Gary K9GS
 

It sure would be nice if someone wrote a utility to do the power management settings. 

It's a small chore having to check settings every time a new USB device is added. 







73,

Gary K9GS

-------- Original message --------
From: Ed Pflueger <ab4iq@...>
Date: 11/18/19 2:49 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

Need to turn the USB sleep or power mode to OFF in Windows.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:26 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
> McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
>
> USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer.   Not using any RS-
> 232 converter.  The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
> > How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?
> >
> > Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.
> >
> > - 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
> >> Pflueger
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> That's the way mine is Bob.  No Issues
> >>
> >> Ed.. AB4IQ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On
> >> Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
> >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
> >> To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
> >>
> >> I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command
> >> on initialization of the application.  See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.
> >>
> >> With WSJT-X I have the following values:
> >>
> >> PTT Method = CAT
> >>
> >> Data Bits = 8
> >>
> >> Stop Bits = 1
> >>
> >> Handshake = None
> >>
> >> Mode = Data/Pkt
> >>
> >> Split Operation = Rig
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Bob, K4TAX
> >>
> >> On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
> >>> Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the
> >>> K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio
> >>> control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead
> >>> configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In
> >>> N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
> >>> (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
> >>> the PTT method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>










Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

ve3ki
 

There's a detailed explanation of how to do this at <http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/PreventUSBPortPowerDown>. This procedure should be followed on any computer used to control a radio, if only to eliminate USB power-down as a possible problem source.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 03:49 PM, Ed Pflueger wrote:
Need to turn the USB sleep or power mode to OFF in Windows.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:26 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer. Not using any RS-
232 converter. The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?

Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
Pflueger
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output

I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command
on initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.

With WSJT-X I have the following values:

PTT Method = CAT

Data Bits = 8

Stop Bits = 1

Handshake = None

Mode = Data/Pkt

Split Operation = Rig

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the
K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio
control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead
configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In
N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
(and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
the PTT method.








Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Ed Pflueger
 

Need to turn the USB sleep or power mode to OFF in Windows.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 2:26 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer. Not using any RS-
232 converter. The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?

Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
Pflueger
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output

I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command
on initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.

With WSJT-X I have the following values:

PTT Method = CAT

Data Bits = 8

Stop Bits = 1

Handshake = None

Mode = Data/Pkt

Split Operation = Rig

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the
K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio
control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead
configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In
N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
(and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
the PTT method.









Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

Not that I'm aware of.   I ran several hours on 6 meter meteor scatter this morning using MSK144 / WSJT-X and no issues with any communications between the radio and computer.   Even at 500 watts or so out of the KPA500, again no issues.  Several times this morning I was away from the computer/radio for 1/2 hour or more and no loss of communications was observed.

As to RS-232 to USB converters,  from experience the Prolific chip set devices may work, may somewhat, may sometimes work and any variation of the same.   While at the same time, the FTDI devices have been found to work 100% of the time.   It is well worth spending a few extra dollars and get "the real thing" and be problem free.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 2:26 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer. Not using any RS-
232 converter. The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?

Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
Pflueger
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output

I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command on
initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.

With WSJT-X I have the following values:

PTT Method = CAT

Data Bits = 8

Stop Bits = 1

Handshake = None

Mode = Data/Pkt

Split Operation = Rig

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the K3's
CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio control/logging
programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead configure the software
to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off
and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
(and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
the PTT method.








Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Mike Flowers
 

So, I wonder if the Windows USB port 'Power Management' is in play here?

Wake ... sleep ... wake ... sleep ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 12:01
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer. Not using any RS-
232 converter. The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?

Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed
Pflueger
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf
Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output

I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command on
initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.

With WSJT-X I have the following values:

PTT Method = CAT

Data Bits = 8

Stop Bits = 1

Handshake = None

Mode = Data/Pkt

Split Operation = Rig

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the K3's
CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio control/logging
programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead configure the software
to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off
and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode"
(and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as
the PTT method.









Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

USB at the radio, one cable to a USB port on the computer.   Not using any RS-232 converter.  The radio control {CAT} along with audio is all on the same cable.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 1:52 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?

Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Pflueger
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output

I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command on
initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.

With WSJT-X I have the following values:

PTT Method = CAT

Data Bits = 8

Stop Bits = 1

Handshake = None

Mode = Data/Pkt

Split Operation = Rig

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the K3's
CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio control/logging
programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead configure the software
to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and
check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode" (and
other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as the PTT
method.







Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Mike Flowers
 

How is CAT control achieved here ... RS232 or USB/RS232?

Sounds to me as if the PC is 'poling' the COM port for some reason.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Pflueger
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:50
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermittent xmit pulse output

That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output

I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command on
initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.

With WSJT-X I have the following values:

PTT Method = CAT

Data Bits = 8

Stop Bits = 1

Handshake = None

Mode = Data/Pkt

Split Operation = Rig

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the K3's
CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio control/logging
programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead configure the software
to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and
check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode" (and
other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as the PTT
method.






Re: Intermittent xmit pulse output

Ed Pflueger
 

That's the way mine is Bob. No Issues

Ed.. AB4IQ

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 11:46 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output

I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command on initialization of the application. See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.

With WSJT-X I have the following values:

PTT Method = CAT

Data Bits = 8

Stop Bits = 1

Handshake = None

Mode = Data/Pkt

Split Operation = Rig

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the K3's
CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio control/logging
programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead configure the software
to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and
check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode" (and
other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as the PTT
method.


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

I find this method does work and does not give a brief PTT command on initialization of the application.  See comments and suggestions from VE3KI.

With WSJT-X I have the following values:

PTT Method = CAT

Data Bits = 8

Stop Bits = 1

Handshake = None

Mode = Data/Pkt

Split Operation = Rig

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/18/2019 9:57 AM, ve3ki wrote:
Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode" (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as the PTT method.


Test

Jeff Wheeler W7JW
 

Test de W7JW


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

ve3ki
 

If you are not getting PTT when CONFIG:PTT-KEY is set to OFF-OFF, but only when it is set to RTS-OFF, it looks as if you have configured your software programs to use RTS on the radio control port for PTT. Unfortunately, either the computer is toggling RTS at unexpected times or perhaps there is a problem with the voltage levels on the RTS pin on the cable.

Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode" (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as the PTT method.

If you don't like the PTT via CAT method, VOX works just fine on the K3 in digital modes. For VOX, you don't configure any form of PTT control in N1MM+, and in WSJT-X you select VOX as the PTT method. I can't speak for HRD.

Regarding the Split mode in WSJT-X, I have never been happy with the results using the "Rig" setting; "Fake It" works better for me. Just don't be disconcerted by seeing the frequency on the rig's dial change between RX and TX; that's what "Fake It" does.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:08 AM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Good suggestion.
 
A bit of trouble shooting using WSJT-X v2.1.0
K3 set to Data mode.
 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY
 
   OFF-OFF    No pulse output, No PTT control
 
   RST-OFF    Random pulse output, PTT control
   DTR-OFF   Constant pulse chatter, No PTT
 
   OFF-RST   No Pulse, No PTT
   OFF-DTR   No pulse, No PTT
 
Additional observations:
   When WSJT-X's setup window is open, and I do a "Test CAT" which turns Green, things seem OK.
         On the K3 the yellow Delta f light is off (Just below the Power switch on the K3).
   Once I exit the WSJT-X setup window the yellow light (Delta F) turns on and the problem returns.
          It seems that the timing of the random xmit pulse is in sync with when I receive a signal higher that S-9
 
 
If I press A>B to align the two frequencies, everything seems to work ?????
If I change the "Split Mode" in WSJT-X to "Fake it" everything seems to work.
 
Now to do testing with HRD & N1MM.
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 've3ki' <ve3iay@...>
Date: 11/18/19 5:12 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

What is CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to? If you set it to OFF-OFF, does that stop the intermittent triggering of PTT?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 07:53 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

John H. Long Jr. <john@...>
 

Additional testing with N1MM.
 
Still have the random pulse even if the yellow "Delta f" light is off.
 
 
 
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 'John H. Long Jr.' <john@...>
Date: 11/18/19 8:08 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Cc: 'John Long' <john@...>

Good suggestion.
 
A bit of trouble shooting using WSJT-X v2.1.0
K3 set to Data mode.
 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY
 
   OFF-OFF    No pulse output, No PTT control
 
   RST-OFF    Random pulse output, PTT control
   DTR-OFF   Constant pulse chatter, No PTT
 
   OFF-RST   No Pulse, No PTT
   OFF-DTR   No pulse, No PTT
 
Additional observations:
   When WSJT-X's setup window is open, and I do a "Test CAT" which turns Green, things seem OK.
         On the K3 the yellow Delta f light is off (Just below the Power switch on the K3).
   Once I exit the WSJT-X setup window the yellow light (Delta F) turns on and the problem returns.
          It seems that the timing of the random xmit pulse is in sync with when I receive a signal higher that S-9
 
 
If I press A>B to align the two frequencies, everything seems to work ?????
If I change the "Split Mode" in WSJT-X to "Fake it" everything seems to work.
 
Now to do testing with HRD & N1MM.
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 've3ki' <ve3iay@...>
Date: 11/18/19 5:12 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

What is CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to? If you set it to OFF-OFF, does that stop the intermittent triggering of PTT?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 07:53 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

John H. Long Jr. <john@...>
 

Additional testing with N1MM.
 
Still have the random pulse even if the yellow "Delta f" light is off.
 
 
 
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 'John H. Long Jr.' <john@...>
Date: 11/18/19 8:08 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Cc: 'John Long' <john@...>

Good suggestion.
 
A bit of trouble shooting using WSJT-X v2.1.0
K3 set to Data mode.
 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY
 
   OFF-OFF    No pulse output, No PTT control
 
   RST-OFF    Random pulse output, PTT control
   DTR-OFF   Constant pulse chatter, No PTT
 
   OFF-RST   No Pulse, No PTT
   OFF-DTR   No pulse, No PTT
 
Additional observations:
   When WSJT-X's setup window is open, and I do a "Test CAT" which turns Green, things seem OK.
         On the K3 the yellow Delta f light is off (Just below the Power switch on the K3).
   Once I exit the WSJT-X setup window the yellow light (Delta F) turns on and the problem returns.
          It seems that the timing of the random xmit pulse is in sync with when I receive a signal higher that S-9
 
 
If I press A>B to align the two frequencies, everything seems to work ?????
If I change the "Split Mode" in WSJT-X to "Fake it" everything seems to work.
 
Now to do testing with HRD & N1MM.
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 've3ki' <ve3iay@...>
Date: 11/18/19 5:12 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

What is CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to? If you set it to OFF-OFF, does that stop the intermittent triggering of PTT?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 07:53 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?