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Jeff Wheeler W7JW
 

Test de W7JW


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

ve3ki
 

If you are not getting PTT when CONFIG:PTT-KEY is set to OFF-OFF, but only when it is set to RTS-OFF, it looks as if you have configured your software programs to use RTS on the radio control port for PTT. Unfortunately, either the computer is toggling RTS at unexpected times or perhaps there is a problem with the voltage levels on the RTS pin on the cable.

Here is a suggestion for an alternative configuration: Set the K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF. In each of your radio control/logging programs, disable the PTT via RTS and instead configure the software to do PTT via CAT (radio command). In N1MM+, set RTS to Always Off and check the check box for "PTT via Radio Command Digital Mode" (and other modes if you use PTT in them). In WSJT-X, select CAT as the PTT method.

If you don't like the PTT via CAT method, VOX works just fine on the K3 in digital modes. For VOX, you don't configure any form of PTT control in N1MM+, and in WSJT-X you select VOX as the PTT method. I can't speak for HRD.

Regarding the Split mode in WSJT-X, I have never been happy with the results using the "Rig" setting; "Fake It" works better for me. Just don't be disconcerted by seeing the frequency on the rig's dial change between RX and TX; that's what "Fake It" does.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:08 AM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Good suggestion.
 
A bit of trouble shooting using WSJT-X v2.1.0
K3 set to Data mode.
 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY
 
   OFF-OFF    No pulse output, No PTT control
 
   RST-OFF    Random pulse output, PTT control
   DTR-OFF   Constant pulse chatter, No PTT
 
   OFF-RST   No Pulse, No PTT
   OFF-DTR   No pulse, No PTT
 
Additional observations:
   When WSJT-X's setup window is open, and I do a "Test CAT" which turns Green, things seem OK.
         On the K3 the yellow Delta f light is off (Just below the Power switch on the K3).
   Once I exit the WSJT-X setup window the yellow light (Delta F) turns on and the problem returns.
          It seems that the timing of the random xmit pulse is in sync with when I receive a signal higher that S-9
 
 
If I press A>B to align the two frequencies, everything seems to work ?????
If I change the "Split Mode" in WSJT-X to "Fake it" everything seems to work.
 
Now to do testing with HRD & N1MM.
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 've3ki' <ve3iay@...>
Date: 11/18/19 5:12 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

What is CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to? If you set it to OFF-OFF, does that stop the intermittent triggering of PTT?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 07:53 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

John H. Long Jr.
 

Additional testing with N1MM.
 
Still have the random pulse even if the yellow "Delta f" light is off.
 
 
 
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 'John H. Long Jr.' <john@...>
Date: 11/18/19 8:08 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Cc: 'John Long' <john@...>

Good suggestion.
 
A bit of trouble shooting using WSJT-X v2.1.0
K3 set to Data mode.
 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY
 
   OFF-OFF    No pulse output, No PTT control
 
   RST-OFF    Random pulse output, PTT control
   DTR-OFF   Constant pulse chatter, No PTT
 
   OFF-RST   No Pulse, No PTT
   OFF-DTR   No pulse, No PTT
 
Additional observations:
   When WSJT-X's setup window is open, and I do a "Test CAT" which turns Green, things seem OK.
         On the K3 the yellow Delta f light is off (Just below the Power switch on the K3).
   Once I exit the WSJT-X setup window the yellow light (Delta F) turns on and the problem returns.
          It seems that the timing of the random xmit pulse is in sync with when I receive a signal higher that S-9
 
 
If I press A>B to align the two frequencies, everything seems to work ?????
If I change the "Split Mode" in WSJT-X to "Fake it" everything seems to work.
 
Now to do testing with HRD & N1MM.
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 've3ki' <ve3iay@...>
Date: 11/18/19 5:12 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

What is CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to? If you set it to OFF-OFF, does that stop the intermittent triggering of PTT?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 07:53 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

John H. Long Jr.
 

Additional testing with N1MM.
 
Still have the random pulse even if the yellow "Delta f" light is off.
 
 
 
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 'John H. Long Jr.' <john@...>
Date: 11/18/19 8:08 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Cc: 'John Long' <john@...>

Good suggestion.
 
A bit of trouble shooting using WSJT-X v2.1.0
K3 set to Data mode.
 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY
 
   OFF-OFF    No pulse output, No PTT control
 
   RST-OFF    Random pulse output, PTT control
   DTR-OFF   Constant pulse chatter, No PTT
 
   OFF-RST   No Pulse, No PTT
   OFF-DTR   No pulse, No PTT
 
Additional observations:
   When WSJT-X's setup window is open, and I do a "Test CAT" which turns Green, things seem OK.
         On the K3 the yellow Delta f light is off (Just below the Power switch on the K3).
   Once I exit the WSJT-X setup window the yellow light (Delta F) turns on and the problem returns.
          It seems that the timing of the random xmit pulse is in sync with when I receive a signal higher that S-9
 
 
If I press A>B to align the two frequencies, everything seems to work ?????
If I change the "Split Mode" in WSJT-X to "Fake it" everything seems to work.
 
Now to do testing with HRD & N1MM.
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 
--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 've3ki' <ve3iay@...>
Date: 11/18/19 5:12 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

What is CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to? If you set it to OFF-OFF, does that stop the intermittent triggering of PTT?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 07:53 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

John H. Long Jr.
 

Good suggestion.
 
A bit of trouble shooting using WSJT-X v2.1.0
K3 set to Data mode.
 
CONFIG:PTT-KEY
 
   OFF-OFF    No pulse output, No PTT control
 
   RST-OFF    Random pulse output, PTT control
   DTR-OFF   Constant pulse chatter, No PTT
 
   OFF-RST   No Pulse, No PTT
   OFF-DTR   No pulse, No PTT
 
Additional observations:
   When WSJT-X's setup window is open, and I do a "Test CAT" which turns Green, things seem OK.
         On the K3 the yellow Delta f light is off (Just below the Power switch on the K3).
   Once I exit the WSJT-X setup window the yellow light (Delta F) turns on and the problem returns.
          It seems that the timing of the random xmit pulse is in sync with when I receive a signal higher that S-9
 
 
If I press A>B to align the two frequencies, everything seems to work ?????
If I change the "Split Mode" in WSJT-X to "Fake it" everything seems to work.
 
Now to do testing with HRD & N1MM.
 
 
John H. Long Jr.
KW7A
1370 N 150 E
Nephi, UT 84648
USA
 
(435) 888-LONG
 
 

--------- Original Message ---------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output
From: 've3ki' <ve3iay@...>
Date: 11/18/19 5:12 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

What is CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to? If you set it to OFF-OFF, does that stop the intermittent triggering of PTT?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 07:53 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

ve3ki
 

What is CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to? If you set it to OFF-OFF, does that stop the intermittent triggering of PTT?

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 07:53 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

Do you use the logging program with  WSPR?  Could be the difference. 

Bob, K4TAX



On Nov 17, 2019, at 9:28 PM, John H. Long Jr. <john@...> wrote:

I only use one at a time.  But they all exhibit the same problem.
Update:  WSJT-X in WSPR mode does not do it ?????


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...>
Date: 11/17/19 6:31 PM (GMT-07:00)
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output

With full CAT control in each case, I use WSJT-X, HRD, FLDIGI, JS8Call, and MMTTY with no issues or artifacts as described.   I use these individually and not through or run by another application. 

With all due respect, I absolutely despise logging programs.   Every one I've evaluated is best described as a P I T A.  I prefer to log manually although still computer based.  It is much less problematic and much more predictable and reliable.

I'd speculate that the logging application and the operating application both interrogating the radio is the likely cause.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/17/2019 6:44 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

John H. Long Jr.
 

I only use one at a time.  But they all exhibit the same problem.
Update:  WSJT-X in WSPR mode does not do it ?????


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcgraw@...>
Date: 11/17/19 6:31 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Intermitent xmit pulse output

With full CAT control in each case, I use WSJT-X, HRD, FLDIGI, JS8Call, and MMTTY with no issues or artifacts as described.   I use these individually and not through or run by another application. 

With all due respect, I absolutely despise logging programs.   Every one I've evaluated is best described as a P I T A.  I prefer to log manually although still computer based.  It is much less problematic and much more predictable and reliable.

I'd speculate that the logging application and the operating application both interrogating the radio is the likely cause.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/17/2019 6:44 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: Intermitent xmit pulse output

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
 

With full CAT control in each case, I use WSJT-X, HRD, FLDIGI, JS8Call, and MMTTY with no issues or artifacts as described.   I use these individually and not through or run by another application. 

With all due respect, I absolutely despise logging programs.   Every one I've evaluated is best described as a P I T A.  I prefer to log manually although still computer based.  It is much less problematic and much more predictable and reliable.

I'd speculate that the logging application and the operating application both interrogating the radio is the likely cause.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 11/17/2019 6:44 PM, John H. Long Jr. wrote:
Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Intermitent xmit pulse output

John H. Long Jr.
 

Whenever I am connected to the K3 using CAT control software the K3 randomly goes into XMIT mode for a split second and then back to normal.

It happens when I use N1MM, WSJT-X, HRD etc.

Since it happens when connected using CAT control on all 3 software programs I wonder if I have something setup wrong in the K3?

When I shut off any CAT control program, the random XMIT pulse does not happen.

K3 firmware version MCU 05.60

Any suggestions?


Re: K3S Internal Sound Card for sending SSB WAV Macros

Chuck
 

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 03:27 PM, ve3ki wrote:
https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/k3radiocodecsetup_v2a-pdf/
Thanks all.  Turns out there must have been some old lines in my Function key file as when I replaced it with sent to me by Joe of the W9ET team all now works.  So all my settings were correct (un be know-est to me)!

Thanks to all for the help.

73, Chuck


Re: K3S Internal Sound Card for sending SSB WAV Macros

Mel Marcus
 

Did you set line in

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Internal Sound Card for sending SSB WAV Macros
From: 'Chuck' <@chuck43>
Date: Fri, November 15, 2019 5:07 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

GD,
I am trying to setup and use the K3s' internal sound card to TX SSB & wav macros.  I have CW/WSJT (FT8) and CAT all working via the K3s USB cable.

Shouldn't the fact that WSJT-10 FT8 is working be a good indications the K3s/N1MM+ should work??  I have set the N1MM+ settings for the K3s' sound card but no audio is passed.

What am I missing besides my head??

Tks.  73, Chuck N7BV


Re: K3S Internal Sound Card for sending SSB WAV Macros

ve3ki
 

Download the K3 radio codec setup instructions from the Additional Support Files are on the N1MM+ web site (<https://n1mmwp.hamdocs.com/mmfiles/k3radiocodecsetup_v2a-pdf/>) and follow the instructions in it.

73,
Rich VE3KI


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 06:07 PM, Chuck wrote:
GD,
 I am trying to setup and use the K3s' internal sound card to TX SSB & wav macros.  I have CW/WSJT (FT8) and CAT all working via the K3s USB cable. 

Shouldn't the fact that WSJT-10 FT8 is working be a good indications the K3s/N1MM+ should work??  I have set the N1MM+ settings for the K3s' sound card but no audio is passed.

What am I missing besides my head??

Tks.  73, Chuck N7BV


K3S Internal Sound Card for sending SSB WAV Macros

Chuck
 

GD,
 I am trying to setup and use the K3s' internal sound card to TX SSB & wav macros.  I have CW/WSJT (FT8) and CAT all working via the K3s USB cable. 

Shouldn't the fact that WSJT-10 FT8 is working be a good indications the K3s/N1MM+ should work??  I have set the N1MM+ settings for the K3s' sound card but no audio is passed.

What am I missing besides my head??

Tks.  73, Chuck N7BV


Re: K3S to be discontinued

Frank Krozel
 

I agree with k1zcy

I have two fully loaded K3 radios, 2 receivers, etc. and trade radios a lot.  
During the trading process, some radios are kept on in the background.   I keep finding things that are “built-in” on the K3, like bullet-proof front end (my Icom keeps saying something about an overload in a similar application), massive front end surge arrestors (reminiscent of the old Ten Tec radios that protect the front end, etc. ) Mind you I did buy PolyPhasers and installed them as well.

My K3 radios may not have the built-in waterfall but… they continue to remain front and center.  The K3 radio fits the bill for the $1-3K range.  Wont be getting a K4 though.   Very happy with these.


Sincerely,  Frank Krozel 

1-630-924-1600 frank@...  
BSEE,   AASEET,   FCC Lic.# PG-18-19178,   KG9H

On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:32 PM, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It is a bad time to try to sell a K3, therefore I plan no change of gear here.  At first that K4 looked attractive, then realizing that there would be a fllood of K3’s on the used market I abandoned any thoughts of purchasing a K4 nether in the near future nor in the long term.  I’ll stick with my two K3’s and P3.  They work just fine, besides I do not need the remote capability.  If I really couldn’t live without a K4 type rig I’d look closely at the Icom 7610 in the future, but even that doesn’t perk up my interest.  

Just my .02 worth. 

Dale, K9VUJ



On 12, Nov 2019, at 10:35, Stephen Bloom <sbloom@...> wrote:

Hi John:
 
The K4 with equivalent features will basically be the same price as the K3S .. except with built in pan adapters.  It’s actually a better value for the buck at new cost (I would expect a lot of used K3/K3S to hit the market, so they will get less expensive.)  Were I Eric and Wayne, I’d make sure there was enough K3S stock to last until the K4HD is out, since some folks (mostly contesters using multiple radios) will need the superhet module, but otherwise, if you were budgeting X Number of Dollars to buy a K3S, you will be able to buy a K4 with the same or more features.
 
73
Steve KL7SB
 
 
 
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of John via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:25 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S to be discontinued
 
I think Bob  and Wayne will some day regret in stop making the k-3s and bring it back. Us old timers do not need all the bells and whistles in our rigs or the high prices.

k1zcy
John 




Re: K3S to be discontinued

kg9hfrank@gmail.com
 

I agree with k1zcy

I have two fully loaded K3 radios, 2 receivers, etc. and trade radios a lot.  
During the trading process, some radios are kept on in the background.   I keep finding things that are “built-in” on the K3, like bullet-proof front end (my Icom keeps saying something about an overload in a similar application), massive front end surge arrestors (reminiscent of the old Ten Tec radios that protect the front end, etc. ) Mind you I did buy PolyPhasers and installed them as well.

My K3 radios may not have the built-in waterfall but… they continue to remain front and center.  The K3 radio fits the bill for the $1-3K range.  Wont be getting a K4 though.   Very happy with these.


Sincerely,  Frank Krozel 

1-630-924-1600 frank@...  
BSEE,   AASEET,   FCC Lic.# PG-18-19178,   KG9H
-73-  Frank    KG9H





On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:32 PM, dalej via Groups.Io <dalej2@...> wrote:

It is a bad time to try to sell a K3, therefore I plan no change of gear here.  At first that K4 looked attractive, then realizing that there would be a fllood of K3’s on the used market I abandoned any thoughts of purchasing a K4 nether in the near future nor in the long term.  I’ll stick with my two K3’s and P3.  They work just fine, besides I do not need the remote capability.  If I really couldn’t live without a K4 type rig I’d look closely at the Icom 7610 in the future, but even that doesn’t perk up my interest.  

Just my .02 worth. 

Dale, K9VUJ



On 12, Nov 2019, at 10:35, Stephen Bloom <sbloom@...> wrote:

Hi John:
 
The K4 with equivalent features will basically be the same price as the K3S .. except with built in pan adapters.  It’s actually a better value for the buck at new cost (I would expect a lot of used K3/K3S to hit the market, so they will get less expensive.)  Were I Eric and Wayne, I’d make sure there was enough K3S stock to last until the K4HD is out, since some folks (mostly contesters using multiple radios) will need the superhet module, but otherwise, if you were budgeting X Number of Dollars to buy a K3S, you will be able to buy a K4 with the same or more features.
 
73
Steve KL7SB
 
 
 
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of John via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:25 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S to be discontinued
 
I think Bob  and Wayne will some day regret in stop making the k-3s and bring it back. Us old timers do not need all the bells and whistles in our rigs or the high prices.

k1zcy
John 





Re: K3S to be discontinued

southdaleus
 

It is a bad time to try to sell a K3, therefore I plan no change of gear here.  At first that K4 looked attractive, then realizing that there would be a fllood of K3’s on the used market I abandoned any thoughts of purchasing a K4 nether in the near future nor in the long term.  I’ll stick with my two K3’s and P3.  They work just fine, besides I do not need the remote capability.  If I really couldn’t live without a K4 type rig I’d look closely at the Icom 7610 in the future, but even that doesn’t perk up my interest.  

Just my .02 worth. 

Dale, K9VUJ



On 12, Nov 2019, at 10:35, Stephen Bloom <sbloom@...> wrote:

Hi John:
 
The K4 with equivalent features will basically be the same price as the K3S .. except with built in pan adapters.  It’s actually a better value for the buck at new cost (I would expect a lot of used K3/K3S to hit the market, so they will get less expensive.)  Were I Eric and Wayne, I’d make sure there was enough K3S stock to last until the K4HD is out, since some folks (mostly contesters using multiple radios) will need the superhet module, but otherwise, if you were budgeting X Number of Dollars to buy a K3S, you will be able to buy a K4 with the same or more features.
 
73
Steve KL7SB
 
 
 
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of John via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:25 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S to be discontinued
 
I think Bob  and Wayne will some day regret in stop making the k-3s and bring it back. Us old timers do not need all the bells and whistles in our rigs or the high prices.

k1zcy
John 



Re: K3S to be discontinued; bug fixes, not

Bill Mader
 

John,

There will "always" be a, or many, used K3 for sale.  Looking at current used prices, you can pick-up a bargain frequently.  A well-equipped new K3 price approaches that of a K4 and you get an awesome, built-in panadaptor plus other great features in the K4.  I'll be 75 next week and the K4 entices me, not scares me.  The K3 was a big jump for me from my TS-940.  The K4 will be another big jump for me from the K3.  Hopefully, it will be ready to ship to NM when we return from our Winter visit to SW AZ in February.

We are fortunate we can choose what we want and can afford.  I read this in an astronomy magazine long ago:  "Buy once.  Cry once."  That seems like great advice for both ham radio and astronomy purchases.  As I focus primarily on contesting and DX'ing, I find Elecraft's feature sets keep making those aspects of our avocation every more interesting, fun, and satisfying.
--

73, Bill Mader, K8TE
K-Line, KX3, KX1, K2
W6H NM Coordinator, Route 66 On-the-Air 4-13 Sep 2020
ARRL New Mexico Section Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
Duke City Hamfest BoD Vice-Chairman www.dukecityhamfest.org 18-20 Sep 2020
Secretary and Past President, Albuquerque DX Association 


Re: K3S to be discontinued

Stephen Bloom
 

Hi John:

 

The K4 with equivalent features will basically be the same price as the K3S .. except with built in pan adapters.  It’s actually a better value for the buck at new cost (I would expect a lot of used K3/K3S to hit the market, so they will get less expensive.)  Were I Eric and Wayne, I’d make sure there was enough K3S stock to last until the K4HD is out, since some folks (mostly contesters using multiple radios) will need the superhet module, but otherwise, if you were budgeting X Number of Dollars to buy a K3S, you will be able to buy a K4 with the same or more features.

 

73

Steve KL7SB

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of John via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 8:25 PM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3S to be discontinued

 

I think Bob  and Wayne will some day regret in stop making the k-3s and bring it back. Us old timers do not need all the bells and whistles in our rigs or the high prices.

k1zcy
John


Re: K3S to be discontinued; bug fixes, not

Bob G3REP
 

David (M0XDF),
in my case I put off buying a new one as I could not justify the cost until a nice deal came up :-)

Then after going through the learning curve short/long push for so many options I will probably go back to the opposition now they have a higher bench mark to aim for which was raised by Elecraft.

73s
Bob
G3REP