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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Editing CW Memories using the K3 Utility

William Conkling <bconk75@...>
 

When testing be sure you are in CW mode.
...nr4c. bill

On Mar 22, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Jim Pyle <aa8oy@...> wrote:

I am new to the K3 having just completed the build last weekend. I am trying to add a CW memory to the K3 using the K3 Utility/Configuration/Edit CW Memories. The K3 Utility connects to the K3 and I can go to the Edit CW Memories box. I then type in the text I want to be sent. Following that, I press “Save” and the data appears to be saving. However, when I go to the K3, there is nothing in that memory. If I press REC + M”X” key and send via the paddle followed by pressing the REC key, it will record and save the message.

Other functions work on the K3 Utility. Has anyone any suggestions on how to solve this problem?

Thanks,

Jim, AA8OY


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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Editing CW Memories using the K3 Utility

Dick Dievendorff, K6KR
 

One possibility is that the Mx button has been assigned to a command macro function. There is a description of how to undo that in K3 util help on the command tester topic

Dick
, k6kr

On Mar 22, 2014, at 13:54, Jim Pyle <aa8oy@...> wrote:

I am new to the K3 having just completed the build last weekend. I am trying to add a CW memory to the K3 using the K3 Utility/Configuration/Edit CW Memories. The K3 Utility connects to the K3 and I can go to the Edit CW Memories box. I then type in the text I want to be sent. Following that, I press “Save” and the data appears to be saving. However, when I go to the K3, there is nothing in that memory. If I press REC + M”X” key and send via the paddle followed by pressing the REC key, it will record and save the message.

Other functions work on the K3 Utility. Has anyone any suggestions on how to solve this problem?

Thanks,

Jim, AA8OY


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Editing CW Memories using the K3 Utility

Jim Pyle
 

I am new to the K3 having just completed the build last weekend. I am trying to add a CW memory to the K3 using the K3 Utility/Configuration/Edit CW Memories. The K3 Utility connects to the K3 and I can go to the Edit CW Memories box. I then type in the text I want to be sent. Following that, I press “Save” and the data appears to be saving. However, when I go to the K3, there is nothing in that memory. If I press REC + M”X” key and send via the paddle followed by pressing the REC key, it will record and save the message.

Other functions work on the K3 Utility. Has anyone any suggestions on how to solve this problem?

Thanks,

Jim, AA8OY
Re: pan adapter

jerry
 

I first tried LP-Pan and found it to be very time consuming to get working right and to stay working right. Could be all my fault, I don't know. But I got tired of messing with it.
I then bought a P3 and it is basically plug and play and it works very well. I use it whenever I'm on the air. Cost more than a lppan setup but time saved in messing around with software configuration mad it worth it. Definitely give the P3 high marks!
Jerry K9PY

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Re: [Elecraft_K3] New Elecraft Product: K3/0-Mini Remote Front Panel

Mitch Wolfson
 

Note that you do not have to use a serial cable for COM1. You can turn on the RRC's internal USB to serial converter under the serial settings (set "use USB COM port as COM1" to YES) and plug in the USB cable. Then go to Windows Device Manager to see which Windows port the COM1 virtual port was assigned and use that. Make sure you install the Microbit Setup Manager first to get the drivers installed.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN
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On 22.03.2014 14:18, Doug Joyce wrote:
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Yes the COM1 facility in the RRC works very well (to run either the KPAUtil or the KPA500 Remote) . �A regular serial cable is needed between the local computer and COM1 on the Control RRC but a NULL cable is needed between COM1 on the Radio RRC and the RS232 connector on the KPA500.


73, �Doug �VE3MV

On 2014-Mar-21, at 2:02 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI <rtavan@...> wrote:


Oops! I missed your comment about using the RRC COM1 facility to run Kxx500 Utility remotely. That's clever as it would obviate the need for a remote desktop. I'll have to try that when I want to run Utility. It should also work for running Kxx500 Remote without a server side instance. Neat!

/Rick

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Rick Tavan N6XI
Truckee, CA


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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: pan adapter

Phil Wheeler <w7ox@...>
 

I agree 100%, Harry. After my current project (building a KX1, my second after a ten year hiatus) the SVGA option is next on my list. I just need to find a good place to site the SVGA monitor!

73, Phil w7ox

On 3/22/14, 6:55 AM, harry latterman wrote:
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The P3 has a SVGA option that fits inside the P3 Box. It not only gives you the choice of any size monitor (I have a 22" monitor) But you can add a USB keyboard to do RTTY, PSK31 and keyboard CW with no computer. You can set up macros for those modes and macros to do radio control. The P3 allows you to move the cursor over a signal and check it out. You can then snap back to where you were or QSY and instantly be on the new station. There is a lot more to the P3 then a pretty face.

I have had bandscopes on my ICOM for years and spoiled with having that feature. I made and use a softrock, which the core of the LP panadaptor (check the schematic out...not much difference), I also own a Flex 1500, thus I have references to base my decision on. I can say that knowing the LP from my softrock days and using a Flex, that the P3 is a 100% SDR stand alone panadapter and well worth the money.. However you need to get the SVGA option to get the full extended benefits.. One of the best options I have and with it no need for a second RX.

73 Harry K7ZOV
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: K3 TX/RX EQ

Wes
 

You can say that again!

On 3/21/2014 6:27 AM, k3lrh@... wrote:
 

>The best report you can get is not having to repeat yourself.<


MIKE....very true and to the point!


73

Len, K3LRH
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: pan adapter

Wes
 

Cutting and pasting from a comment to this group I made two years ago:

I use an SDR-IQ on the i-f output of my K3.  I use LP-Bridge to share data between the K3, SpectraVue, DXBase logging and/or N1MM.

Additionally, with a laptop/SDR-IQ combination I have a nice little standalone receiver for travel use, although the sensitivity is poor without something like an active antenna.

Disclaimer: I once owned an LP-PAN but sold it, I've never owned a P3 although I played with a preproduction one once.

Wes  N7WS

On 3/22/2014 6:23 AM, Keith Heimbold wrote:
 
I chose the LP panadapter because it was more cost effective and works great. Another consideration was that it works with multiple software options and I could use it with a large computer monitor. At the time of purchase the P3 couldn't be connected to a larger monitor. Now that is solved the P3 would be my choice. I used the LP panadapter primarily on 6m. 

Keith

please excuse typos

On Mar 22, 2014, at 8:07 AM, bill@... wrote:

 

No contest for me: I chose the P3 because it matches the K-Line station and does not require a computer to operate. Very simple - plug in the proper wires and you are up and running.

Bill W2BLC K-Line




Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: pan adapter

harry latterman <harrylatterman@...>
 

The P3 has a SVGA option that fits inside the P3 Box. It not only gives you the choice of any size monitor (I have a 22" monitor) But you can add a USB keyboard to do RTTY, PSK31 and keyboard CW with no computer. You can set up macros for those modes and macros to do radio control. The P3 allows you to move the cursor over a signal and check it out. You can then snap back to where you were or QSY and instantly be on the new station. There is a lot more to the P3 then a pretty face.

I have had bandscopes on my ICOM for years and spoiled with having that feature. I made and use a softrock, which the core of the LP panadaptor (check the schematic out...not much difference), I also own a Flex 1500, thus I have references to base my decision on. I can say that knowing the LP from my softrock days and using a Flex, that the P3 is a 100% SDR stand alone panadapter and well worth the money.. However you need to get the SVGA option to get the full extended benefits.. One of the best options I have and with it no need for a second RX.

73 Harry K7ZOV
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On Sat, 3/22/14, Keith Heimbold <ag6az@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: pan adapter
To: "Elecraft_K3@..." <Elecraft_K3@...>
Date: Saturday, March 22, 2014, 6:23 AM




I chose the LP panadapter because it was more
cost effective and works great. Another consideration was
that it works with multiple software options and I could use
it with a large computer monitor. At the time of purchase
the P3 couldn't be connected to a larger monitor. Now
that is solved the P3 would be my choice. I used the LP
panadapter primarily on 6m. 
Keith

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos
On Mar 22, 2014, at 8:07 AM, bill@... wrote:
















 






No contest for me: I chose the P3 because it
matches the K-Line station and does not require a computer
to operate. Very simple - plug in the proper wires and you
are up and running.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: pan adapter

Keith Heimbold <ag6az@...>
 

I chose the LP panadapter because it was more cost effective and works great. Another consideration was that it works with multiple software options and I could use it with a large computer monitor. At the time of purchase the P3 couldn't be connected to a larger monitor. Now that is solved the P3 would be my choice. I used the LP panadapter primarily on 6m. 

Keith

please excuse typos

On Mar 22, 2014, at 8:07 AM, bill@... wrote:

 

No contest for me: I chose the P3 because it matches the K-Line station and does not require a computer to operate. Very simple - plug in the proper wires and you are up and running.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
Re: [Elecraft_K3] New Elecraft Product: K3/0-Mini Remote Front Panel

Doug, VE3MV
 

Yes the COM1 facility in the RRC works very well (to run either the KPAUtil or the KPA500 Remote) .  A regular serial cable is needed between the local computer and COM1 on the Control RRC but a NULL cable is needed between COM1 on the Radio RRC and the RS232 connector on the KPA500.

73,  Doug  VE3MV

On 2014-Mar-21, at 2:02 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI <rtavan@...> wrote:


Oops! I missed your comment about using the RRC COM1 facility to run Kxx500 Utility remotely. That's clever as it would obviate the need for a remote desktop. I'll have to try that when I want to run Utility. It should also work for running Kxx500 Remote without a server side instance. Neat!

/Rick

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Truckee, CA
Re: pan adapter

bill@...
 

No contest for me: I chose the P3 because it matches the K-Line station and does not require a computer to operate. Very simple - plug in the proper wires and you are up and running.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Gary
 

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73,

Gary  KI4GGX
Re: New Elecraft Product: K3/0-Mini Remote Front Panel

Rick Tavan
 

Oops! I missed your comment about using the RRC COM1 facility to run Kxx500 Utility remotely. That's clever as it would obviate the need for a remote desktop. I'll have to try that when I want to run Utility. It should also work for running Kxx500 Remote without a server side instance. Neat!

/Rick

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Rick Tavan N6XI
Truckee, CA

Re: New Elecraft Product: K3/0-Mini Remote Front Panel

Rick Tavan
 

I've been using KPA500 Remote (and its companion KAT500 Remote) for half a year now. Here are the primary differences between them and the Kxx500 Utilities as I see it:

The Utilities are comprehensive tools for managing the firmware inside the KPA and KAT, saving and restoring configurations, adjusting optional parameters, etc. They include basic interfaces for actually operating the device as part of the station. To use the Utility remotely, you run it on a computer at the Remote site and access it from the Control site using a screen sharing program such as Chrome Remote Desktop, LogMeIn or the Windows remote facility.

The Remotes are optimized for operating the device as part of the station. They have smaller windows, simpler user interfaces and fewer functions. They are better than the Utilities for actually operating the station. Unlike the respective Utilities, the Remotes run as client and server. The server side runs on a computer at the Remote site and the client side runs on a computer at the Control site. That means you can position their individual windows as you wish, with no need to devote large amounts of screen space to a full screen sharing window. Both use the same executable and you set them up as client and server respectively. They remember their settings, including a handy list of recently-used URLs. 

Both programs are very well done. Each is best for its intended primary purpose. I use the Remotes all the time for operating the station remotely. I turn off the Remote server app temporarily and run the Utility app when I need to update firmware or make other parameter settings.

73,

/Rick

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Truckee, CA

pan adapter

rosswilcox2002@...
 

hi all

which is better lp-pan with power sir if
or
p3 

which is the better 

can see for and agents for both setups 
thx
m0gtt
Re: K3 TX/RX EQ

k3lrh@...
 

>The best report you can get is not having to repeat yourself.<


MIKE....very true and to the point!


73

Len, K3LRH
Re: New Elecraft Product: K3/0-Mini Remote Front Panel

bill@...
 

I have been asking this question since last fall and have yet to receive a definitive answer. Seems to me, that many of the imports have this capability (with only the cost of an additional cable) and that  Elecraft could do it also - even if there is a required cost for an entirely new and additional panel. It sure would be handy.

Thanks,

Bill W2BKC K-Line
Re: [Elecraft_K3] 6 Meter audio distortation

Gary <n6lrv@...>
 

Gary,

Sorry for responding so late to this thread. I believe you may be experiencing the same problem I’ve always had with my K3 on 6m FM when listing to local 6m FM QSO’s.  I believe Lyle is correct that the problem is that the K3’s roofing filter is clipping excessive deviation from received signals and rather sharply in my experience. I’ve inquired about this with Elecraft but have been unable to make recordings of what I see on the P3 and hear through the K3. Since this is seldom brought up on the forums I suspect FM is seldom if ever used by the majority of K3 users. After repeatedly confirming that my K3 is properly set up/configured I still observe sharp clipping of nearly all local 6m FM traffic both simplex and repeated. While the rules and/or accepted practice suggests that a 13Khz IF filter should be sufficient for clear FM reception side-by-side comparisons with other multiband/multimode transceivers have led me to believe that the competition provides a wider pass band, one that’s allowed us to grow accustomed to signals that are perhaps over-deviating by the letter of the law but otherwise sound clear. I wonder if a slightly wider IF filter in the K3 would fix this but I don’t know how to go about getting one. Many signals I’ve observed on the P3 only slightly exceed the passband markers so I suspect a noticeable improvement would result from a filter that’s just 2Khz wider. We can do little about the deviation of other’s transmitted signal but we can do a lot to improve our reception of it. We have 6m FM nets several times each week in my area so if Elecraft would provide a wider 8-pole FM roofing filter I’d buy two immediately.
Gary

N6LRV

 

From: Elecraft_K3@... [mailto:Elecraft_K3@...] On Behalf Of hoegolfs
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 2:17 PM
To: Elecraft_K3@...
Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] 6 Meter audio distortation

 

 

Thanks Lyle checked menu for filter set to 13.00 band width 0.00 frequency 0 gain filter on yes.  Any other ideas please let me know.  Gary

 

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note® II

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Lyle Johnson

Date:02/28/2014 12:53 PM (GMT-06:00)

To: Elecraft_K3@...

Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] 6 Meter audio distortation

 

 

One other possibility is that the crystal filter offset in your K3 is not set correctly.  You can verify this with the K3 CONFIG menus or with K3 Utility.  it should be set to 0.00 kHz offset for the 13 kHz roofing filter.

73,

Lyle KK7P

Hello Gary!

There are a couple of possibilities.

The first is that the receiver and transmitter may be slightly off frequency.  You can try using RIT on your K3 to fine-tune the other station and see if this helps with the FM distortion.

The second is that the other station is transmitting an over-deviated signal.  The K3 has a roofing filter that is 13 kHz wide in its IF for FM reception.  Some stations use FM deviation that results in a signal wider than 13 kHz.  Clipping of received audio from stations whose transmitted signal is wider than this will result in distortion.  The easiest way to test this is to ask the other station operator to back away from his microphone.  If the reduced audio level signal then has less distortion, the other station's transmitter is sending a signal that is too wide for the K3 even though it may sound OK in other radios.  This will require that the other station reduce FM transmit deviation.

73,

Lyle KK7P

 

On 6 meter FM I get audio distortation.  My transmitted signal is reported as good.  The audio is very hard to 

Listen to the way it is.  Anyone have any ideas.  Gary

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: YouTube and band edge beep

iain macdonnell - N6ML <ar@...>
 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:18 AM, <willcoele@...> wrote:



I'm not sure how that would work with the software. OPERA is a QRSS mode and keys the K3 via the RTS line on the serial port. It sends very slow Morse code as an audio tone from the sound card. Depending on the band and mode, the audio frequency changes which changes the TX frequency. That's why I use SSB mode.
DATA A is the appropriate sub-mode for that sort of application. It's
a USB mode, but without compression, TX EQ, etc.

73,

~iain / N6ML
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