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Re: K3 Error IF1

Ray Maxfield
 

I think KPF3A requires a Config Adjustment.

WA6VAB  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mel Marcus
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 7:53 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] K3 Error IF1

 

Please reply on line, i am installing that mode soon.

 

Mel

NE9A

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] K3 Error IF1
From: "Bob DeHaney" <bobdehaney@...>
Date: Wed, September 23, 2020 8:14 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

After doing the KPF3A mod on my K3, and installing the KBPF3A, I get this error on power on.  I can find no procedure for correction or troubleshooting the error.  If you wish, off list reply: bobdehaney at gmx.net

Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T

 


Re: K3 Error IF1

Mel Marcus
 

Please reply on line, i am installing that mode soon.

Mel
NE9A

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] K3 Error IF1
From: "Bob DeHaney" <bobdehaney@...>
Date: Wed, September 23, 2020 8:14 am
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

After doing the KPF3A mod on my K3, and installing the KBPF3A, I get this error on power on.  I can find no procedure for correction or troubleshooting the error.  If you wish, off list reply: bobdehaney at gmx.net

Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T


K3 Error IF1

Bob DeHaney
 

After doing the KPF3A mod on my K3, and installing the KBPF3A, I get this error on power on.  I can find no procedure for correction or troubleshooting the error.  If you wish, off list reply: bobdehaney at gmx.net

Vy 73 de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T


Re: USB driver lost, Windows update

OZ0J Joe
 

Tnx Tom also for the e-mail with the driver. Somehow my friend manage to get all working including a new dll file for Win-Test. The other one was corrupt.

 

I will visit him shortly and check the Windows update and make some changes of which part not to be updated.

 

73 Joe, OZ0J

https://english.oz0j.dk

 

Fra: Elecraft-K3@groups.io <Elecraft-K3@groups.io> På vegne af mistuff
Sendt: 22. september 2020 00:30
Til: Elecraft-K3@groups.io; contest@...
Emne: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB driver lost, Windows update

 

Windows update can do you a favor and provide the latest driver which in some cases will make your usb device connection useless.

 

When you finally get the correct driver back, you need to remove the “allow driver update” option from win 10, otherwise this will happen again.

 

Now, if this interface used a prolific chip, try this driver to get the USB interface recognized (and save the driver in a safe place).

 

I have read that this will happen to FTDI chip drivers also but I don’t have any information to help you.

 

Regards,

 

Tom w2mn

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of OZ0J Joe
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 2:00 PM
To: elecraft-k3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] USB driver lost, Windows update

 

For a friend I try to help with his setup.

 

PC is Windows 10, 64-bit and the Station is a Elecraft K3. The connection between PC and K3 is an USB cable in both ends.

 

We guess that a Windows update lost the driver between the K3 and the PC. When the USB is unplugged the error in device manager disappeard.

 

Does anyone know where to download a new driver for the K3 USB connection to Windows 10, 64-bit?

 

 

73 Joe, OZ0J

https://english.oz0j.dk

 

 


Re: Letter “E” on display

DB Snyder
 

Mel... Turns out that I accidentally pressed the ant button too long, went into the alpha mode to name ant 1 and accidentally enter E without realizing it.
New radio, rookie mistake. 73, Chip K2KJD

On Sep 21, 2020, at 20:34, Mel Marcus <melm@...> wrote:


to turn it off press and hold the CWT/TEXT DECODE key. Turn VFO B key to the left till it say OFF, then hit the CWT key agn

Mel
NE9A
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Letter “E” on display
From: "Bruce Beford N1RX" <n1rx@...>
Date: Mon, September 21, 2020 5:47 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Sounds like maybe CW decode is on and it’s a spurious decode? It’s been quite a while since I used that, so I’d have to check the manual of n how to turn it on/off.


Re: Letter “E” on display

DB Snyder
 

Bruce...problem solved. Turns out the E is the first letter of the name for antenna 1. I must have pressed the ant button too long got into the naming routine and never knew it. Rookie mistake...
73, Chip K2KJD

On Sep 21, 2020, at 18:47, Bruce Beford N1RX <n1rx@...> wrote:

Sounds like maybe CW decode is on and it’s a spurious decode? It’s been quite a while since I used that, so I’d have to check the manual of n how to turn it on/off.


Re: Letter “E” on display

Mel Marcus
 

to turn it off press and hold the CWT/TEXT DECODE key. Turn VFO B key to the left till it say OFF, then hit the CWT key agn

Mel
NE9A

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] Letter “E” on display
From: "Bruce Beford N1RX" <n1rx@...>
Date: Mon, September 21, 2020 5:47 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

Sounds like maybe CW decode is on and it’s a spurious decode? It’s been quite a while since I used that, so I’d have to check the manual of n how to turn it on/off.


Re: USB driver lost, Windows update

mistuff
 

Windows update can do you a favor and provide the latest driver which in some cases will make your usb device connection useless.

 

When you finally get the correct driver back, you need to remove the “allow driver update” option from win 10, otherwise this will happen again.

 

Now, if this interface used a prolific chip, try this driver to get the USB interface recognized (and save the driver in a safe place).

 

I have read that this will happen to FTDI chip drivers also but I don’t have any information to help you.

 

Regards,

 

Tom w2mn

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of OZ0J Joe
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 2:00 PM
To: elecraft-k3@groups.io
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] USB driver lost, Windows update

 

For a friend I try to help with his setup.

 

PC is Windows 10, 64-bit and the Station is a Elecraft K3. The connection between PC and K3 is an USB cable in both ends.

 

We guess that a Windows update lost the driver between the K3 and the PC. When the USB is unplugged the error in device manager disappeard.

 

Does anyone know where to download a new driver for the K3 USB connection to Windows 10, 64-bit?

 

 

73 Joe, OZ0J

https://english.oz0j.dk

 

 


Re: Letter “E” on display

Bruce Beford N1RX
 

Sounds like maybe CW decode is on and it’s a spurious decode? It’s been quite a while since I used that, so I’d have to check the manual of n how to turn it on/off.


Re: USB Issue K3S

radio@ebillsharp.com
 

Tnx Lyn, 

Bill
w8hi


On Sep 21, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Alan Baker <g4gnx@...> wrote:

In my case, unlikely to be RF getting in, as it happens when in RX mode.

Thanks for the tip about the USB cables from Tripp-Lite. Hopefully available in the UK. :-)

73,

Alan. G4GNX


------ Original Message ------
From: "Lyn Norstad" <Lyn@...>
Sent: 21/09/2020 15:33:05
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

Or more likely, an issue with RF entering the USB circuit thru the cable.  
 
I have experimented with many USB cables over the years, and the only one I have found to consistently be trouble free is the Tripp-Lite (1 foot or 6 foot) cable with built in ferrite beads at both ends.  (Available on Amazon for less than $10.).
 
73
Lyn, W0LEN
 
 
 
From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Clay Autery
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 7:29 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S
 

Sounds like its a USB port getting close to wearing out...  USB A-B is a lot less robust than USB C ports...  IMHO

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 09/21/20 07:23, Alan Baker wrote:
It's possible that it's not just cable length, it could just be movement of the cable and proximity to 'something' else.
 
I've had intermittent issues with USB disappearing and I know for sure that at least twice it happened just after I reached over the back of the K3S to check a different connector.
My 'cure' so far has been to unplug the USB connector on the back of the rig and re-plug it, whilst watching the Device Manager display on the PC it's connected to. I have an extension lead on the USB cable and unplugging it there and re-plugging has no effect. Re-booting the PC has no effect. Of course it could be that something is not quite 'seated' in the K3S, but as all other I/O works 100% reliably, I have my doubts. As I have a mess of cables behind the K3S, I suspect some form of mutual coupling, which gets disturbed when I reach over. I guess I should try some ferrites.
 
I'm taking chances by writing this, as it's not happened for some time, so I better watch out when I next switch on. :-D
 
73, 
 
Alan. G4GNX
 
 
------ Original Message ------
From: gt0hof@...
Sent: 20/09/2020 22:50:20
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S
 
I too had a problem when I reconnected a USB cable to my K3s. I found or so it seems the length of the USB cable is a problem. When I connected a 1.25 meter cable, the PC would see the K3s but would only RX with no TX, when fitting a 1.5 meter cable, it could not find the K3s at all. But when I tried a 600mm cable, BINGO, all’s well, PC found my K3s TX & RX. So I assume the shorter the cable the better, I am not a techy whizz kid so you tell me why 900mm of cable makes such a big difference? But it seems it does. Maybe my friend Andrew G8BYB might pick up on this thread as he may know more than me.
 
Ken G0HOF
 





Letter “E” on display

K2KJD
 

The letter E appears briefly under the frequency display when the radio is turned on and when you change bands. Asked several K3 owners and looked through the manual and can’t find any information about it. It’s located under the frequency display and to the right of the antenna symbol.
New K3 owner, Chip Snyder K2KJD


Re: USB Issue K3S

Art Greenberg
 

It might be a bad cable. I recently had an interesting experience with a USB connected machine that started exhibiting strange behavior. I never suspected the cable. But after trying a lot of other "fixes" to no avail, I finally gave in and changed the cable. And the machine started working normally.

--
Art Greenberg
WA2LLN
art@...



On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, at 08:23, Alan Baker wrote:
It's possible that it's not just cable length, it could just be movement of the cable and proximity to 'something' else.

I've had intermittent issues with USB disappearing and I know for sure that at least twice it happened just after I reached over the back of the K3S to check a different connector.
My 'cure' so far has been to unplug the USB connector on the back of the rig and re-plug it, whilst watching the Device Manager display on the PC it's connected to. I have an extension lead on the USB cable and unplugging it there and re-plugging has no effect. Re-booting the PC has no effect. Of course it could be that something is not quite 'seated' in the K3S, but as all other I/O works 100% reliably, I have my doubts. As I have a mess of cables behind the K3S, I suspect some form of mutual coupling, which gets disturbed when I reach over. I guess I should try some ferrites.

I'm taking chances by writing this, as it's not happened for some time, so I better watch out when I next switch on. :-D

73,

Alan. G4GNX


------ Original Message ------
Sent: 20/09/2020 22:50:20
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

I too had a problem when I reconnected a USB cable to my K3s. I found or so it seems the length of the USB cable is a problem. When I connected a 1.25 meter cable, the PC would see the K3s but would only RX with no TX, when fitting a 1.5 meter cable, it could not find the K3s at all. But when I tried a 600mm cable, BINGO, all’s well, PC found my K3s TX & RX. So I assume the shorter the cable the better, I am not a techy whizz kid so you tell me why 900mm of cable makes such a big difference? But it seems it does. Maybe my friend Andrew G8BYB might pick up on this thread as he may know more than me.

 

Ken G0HOF






Re: USB Codec images

Mel Marcus
 

I hope you get an aswer because mine does the same.

Mel
NE9A

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Elecraft-K3] USB Codec images
From: "Eric NO3M" <no3m@...>
Date: Mon, September 21, 2020 2:00 pm
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io

I'm having a problem with signals being mirrored around multiples of
1000Hz.  The last time it happened, it was every 500Hz.  The issue is
intermittent and behavior goes back to normal after unplugging and
re-connecting the USB cable to the rear of the K3.  I believe it was
fixed once by restarting the K3 (which doesn't unpower the codec as far
as I understand?).  My second K3 has never had this issue (similar
serial number) and it's on the same USB hub (PCI card in PC).

Any ideas if this could be hardware (KIO3B) or software related and the
underlying cause?  I'm running on an Arch Linux system.

- Eric NO3M







USB Codec images

Eric NO3M
 

I'm having a problem with signals being mirrored around multiples of 1000Hz.  The last time it happened, it was every 500Hz.  The issue is intermittent and behavior goes back to normal after unplugging and re-connecting the USB cable to the rear of the K3.  I believe it was fixed once by restarting the K3 (which doesn't unpower the codec as far as I understand?).  My second K3 has never had this issue (similar serial number) and it's on the same USB hub (PCI card in PC).

Any ideas if this could be hardware (KIO3B) or software related and the underlying cause?  I'm running on an Arch Linux system.

- Eric NO3M


USB driver lost, Windows update

OZ0J Joe
 

For a friend I try to help with his setup.

 

PC is Windows 10, 64-bit and the Station is a Elecraft K3. The connection between PC and K3 is an USB cable in both ends.

 

We guess that a Windows update lost the driver between the K3 and the PC. When the USB is unplugged the error in device manager disappeard.

 

Does anyone know where to download a new driver for the K3 USB connection to Windows 10, 64-bit?

 

 

73 Joe, OZ0J

https://english.oz0j.dk

 

 


Re: USB Issue K3S

Drew Vonada-Smith K3PA
 
Edited

The molded in ferrite beads are nice, but they are small and focused on VHF range emissions.  Always assume that you will need a few turns around a type 31 toroid.

73,

Drew K3PA


Re: USB Issue K3S

Clay Autery
 

Yep....  even a shielded USB cable will act up....  Often because the shield is not continuous or not terminated properly (or at all).
Thus, you need suppression from the ferrites molded on the cable OR get wire longer than you need and figure out which torroid and # turns you need to quiet it all down.

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 09/21/20 09:33, Lyn Norstad wrote:

Or more likely, an issue with RF entering the USB circuit thru the cable. 

 

I have experimented with many USB cables over the years, and the only one I have found to consistently be trouble free is the Tripp-Lite (1 foot or 6 foot) cable with built in ferrite beads at both ends.  (Available on Amazon for less than $10.).

 

73

Lyn, W0LEN

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Clay Autery
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 7:29 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

 

Sounds like its a USB port getting close to wearing out...  USB A-B is a lot less robust than USB C ports...  IMHO

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 09/21/20 07:23, Alan Baker wrote:

It's possible that it's not just cable length, it could just be movement of the cable and proximity to 'something' else.

 

I've had intermittent issues with USB disappearing and I know for sure that at least twice it happened just after I reached over the back of the K3S to check a different connector.

My 'cure' so far has been to unplug the USB connector on the back of the rig and re-plug it, whilst watching the Device Manager display on the PC it's connected to. I have an extension lead on the USB cable and unplugging it there and re-plugging has no effect. Re-booting the PC has no effect. Of course it could be that something is not quite 'seated' in the K3S, but as all other I/O works 100% reliably, I have my doubts. As I have a mess of cables behind the K3S, I suspect some form of mutual coupling, which gets disturbed when I reach over. I guess I should try some ferrites.

 

I'm taking chances by writing this, as it's not happened for some time, so I better watch out when I next switch on. :-D

 

73,

 

Alan. G4GNX

 

 

------ Original Message ------

From: gt0hof@...

Sent: 20/09/2020 22:50:20

Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

 

I too had a problem when I reconnected a USB cable to my K3s. I found or so it seems the length of the USB cable is a problem. When I connected a 1.25 meter cable, the PC would see the K3s but would only RX with no TX, when fitting a 1.5 meter cable, it could not find the K3s at all. But when I tried a 600mm cable, BINGO, all’s well, PC found my K3s TX & RX. So I assume the shorter the cable the better, I am not a techy whizz kid so you tell me why 900mm of cable makes such a big difference? But it seems it does. Maybe my friend Andrew G8BYB might pick up on this thread as he may know more than me.

 

Ken G0HOF

 


Re: USB Issue K3S

Alan Baker
 

In my case, unlikely to be RF getting in, as it happens when in RX mode.

Thanks for the tip about the USB cables from Tripp-Lite. Hopefully available in the UK. :-)

73,

Alan. G4GNX


------ Original Message ------
From: "Lyn Norstad" <Lyn@...>
Sent: 21/09/2020 15:33:05
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

Or more likely, an issue with RF entering the USB circuit thru the cable. 

 

I have experimented with many USB cables over the years, and the only one I have found to consistently be trouble free is the Tripp-Lite (1 foot or 6 foot) cable with built in ferrite beads at both ends.  (Available on Amazon for less than $10.).

 

73

Lyn, W0LEN

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Clay Autery
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 7:29 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

 

Sounds like its a USB port getting close to wearing out...  USB A-B is a lot less robust than USB C ports...  IMHO

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 09/21/20 07:23, Alan Baker wrote:

It's possible that it's not just cable length, it could just be movement of the cable and proximity to 'something' else.

 

I've had intermittent issues with USB disappearing and I know for sure that at least twice it happened just after I reached over the back of the K3S to check a different connector.

My 'cure' so far has been to unplug the USB connector on the back of the rig and re-plug it, whilst watching the Device Manager display on the PC it's connected to. I have an extension lead on the USB cable and unplugging it there and re-plugging has no effect. Re-booting the PC has no effect. Of course it could be that something is not quite 'seated' in the K3S, but as all other I/O works 100% reliably, I have my doubts. As I have a mess of cables behind the K3S, I suspect some form of mutual coupling, which gets disturbed when I reach over. I guess I should try some ferrites.

 

I'm taking chances by writing this, as it's not happened for some time, so I better watch out when I next switch on. :-D

 

73,

 

Alan. G4GNX

 

 

------ Original Message ------

Sent: 20/09/2020 22:50:20

Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

 

I too had a problem when I reconnected a USB cable to my K3s. I found or so it seems the length of the USB cable is a problem. When I connected a 1.25 meter cable, the PC would see the K3s but would only RX with no TX, when fitting a 1.5 meter cable, it could not find the K3s at all. But when I tried a 600mm cable, BINGO, all’s well, PC found my K3s TX & RX. So I assume the shorter the cable the better, I am not a techy whizz kid so you tell me why 900mm of cable makes such a big difference? But it seems it does. Maybe my friend Andrew G8BYB might pick up on this thread as he may know more than me.

 

Ken G0HOF

 


Re: USB Issue K3S

Lyn Norstad
 

Or more likely, an issue with RF entering the USB circuit thru the cable. 

 

I have experimented with many USB cables over the years, and the only one I have found to consistently be trouble free is the Tripp-Lite (1 foot or 6 foot) cable with built in ferrite beads at both ends.  (Available on Amazon for less than $10.).

 

73

Lyn, W0LEN

 

 

 

From: Elecraft-K3@groups.io [mailto:Elecraft-K3@groups.io] On Behalf Of Clay Autery
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2020 7:29 AM
To: Elecraft-K3@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

 

Sounds like its a USB port getting close to wearing out...  USB A-B is a lot less robust than USB C ports...  IMHO

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389

On 09/21/20 07:23, Alan Baker wrote:

It's possible that it's not just cable length, it could just be movement of the cable and proximity to 'something' else.

 

I've had intermittent issues with USB disappearing and I know for sure that at least twice it happened just after I reached over the back of the K3S to check a different connector.

My 'cure' so far has been to unplug the USB connector on the back of the rig and re-plug it, whilst watching the Device Manager display on the PC it's connected to. I have an extension lead on the USB cable and unplugging it there and re-plugging has no effect. Re-booting the PC has no effect. Of course it could be that something is not quite 'seated' in the K3S, but as all other I/O works 100% reliably, I have my doubts. As I have a mess of cables behind the K3S, I suspect some form of mutual coupling, which gets disturbed when I reach over. I guess I should try some ferrites.

 

I'm taking chances by writing this, as it's not happened for some time, so I better watch out when I next switch on. :-D

 

73,

 

Alan. G4GNX

 

 

------ Original Message ------

Sent: 20/09/2020 22:50:20

Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

 

I too had a problem when I reconnected a USB cable to my K3s. I found or so it seems the length of the USB cable is a problem. When I connected a 1.25 meter cable, the PC would see the K3s but would only RX with no TX, when fitting a 1.5 meter cable, it could not find the K3s at all. But when I tried a 600mm cable, BINGO, all’s well, PC found my K3s TX & RX. So I assume the shorter the cable the better, I am not a techy whizz kid so you tell me why 900mm of cable makes such a big difference? But it seems it does. Maybe my friend Andrew G8BYB might pick up on this thread as he may know more than me.

 

Ken G0HOF

 


Re: USB Issue K3S

Clay Autery
 

Sounds like its a USB port getting close to wearing out...  USB A-B is a lot less robust than USB C ports...  IMHO

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
(318) 518-1389
On 09/21/20 07:23, Alan Baker wrote:

It's possible that it's not just cable length, it could just be movement of the cable and proximity to 'something' else.

I've had intermittent issues with USB disappearing and I know for sure that at least twice it happened just after I reached over the back of the K3S to check a different connector.
My 'cure' so far has been to unplug the USB connector on the back of the rig and re-plug it, whilst watching the Device Manager display on the PC it's connected to. I have an extension lead on the USB cable and unplugging it there and re-plugging has no effect. Re-booting the PC has no effect. Of course it could be that something is not quite 'seated' in the K3S, but as all other I/O works 100% reliably, I have my doubts. As I have a mess of cables behind the K3S, I suspect some form of mutual coupling, which gets disturbed when I reach over. I guess I should try some ferrites.

I'm taking chances by writing this, as it's not happened for some time, so I better watch out when I next switch on. :-D

73,

Alan. G4GNX


------ Original Message ------
Sent: 20/09/2020 22:50:20
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K3] USB Issue K3S

I too had a problem when I reconnected a USB cable to my K3s. I found or so it seems the length of the USB cable is a problem. When I connected a 1.25 meter cable, the PC would see the K3s but would only RX with no TX, when fitting a 1.5 meter cable, it could not find the K3s at all. But when I tried a 600mm cable, BINGO, all’s well, PC found my K3s TX & RX. So I assume the shorter the cable the better, I am not a techy whizz kid so you tell me why 900mm of cable makes such a big difference? But it seems it does. Maybe my friend Andrew G8BYB might pick up on this thread as he may know more than me.

 

Ken G0HOF