S3 converter price point
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Ron Hunsicker
To the lads the US and Italian headquarters,
Since the thing is under test, what is the price point? I'll be springing this on "She who must be obeyed" soon and I want to prepare the way. Ron |
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Vianney Colombat
For now, about 700€ + VAT. Regards, Vianney Il 27/11/2022 18:49, Ron Hunsicker via
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To the lads the US and Italian headquarters, --
Vianney Colombat ELAD Italy Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio di posta elettronica sono riservate e confidenziali e ne è vietata la diffusione in qualunque modo eseguita (DL 196/2003). Qualora Lei non fosse la persona a cui il presente messaggio è destinato, La invitiamo ad eliminarlo e a non leggerlo, dandone gentilmente comunicazione al mittente. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may well also be legally privileged (DL 196/2003). If you are not among the named recipients, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system, do not use the contents for any purpose whatsoever nor disclose them to anyone else. |
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Conrad, PA5Y
Hello Vianney, do you have any performance figures for the converter? The usual stuff, dynamic range, PN for various ranges, spurs etc?
Regards
Conrad PA5Y
From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Vianney Colombat via groups.io
Sent: 22 December 2022 17:15 To: EladSDR@groups.io Subject: Re: [EladSDR] S3 converter price point
Il 27/11/2022 18:49, Ron Hunsicker via groups.io ha scritto:
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Ron Hunsicker
Vianney,
Then, $800 US. Great! Thanks! --
Ron Hunsicker 1238 Cleveland Avenue Wyomissing, PA 19610-2102 United States of America ronhunsi at ptd dot net "Democracy dies in darkness" |
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Ron,
With the current exchange rate it will cost you around $700 US and $50 shipping. I bought one about a month ago, but had to return it because the USB c port broke off of the downconverter board. It will be delivering sometime today and I will install it tomorrow.
Everett N4CY
In a message dated 12/22/2022 1:32:09 PM Central Standard Time, ronhunsi@... writes:
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Ron Hunsicker
Everett, Thank-you for the information. Where was it advertised? I have seen nothing. And, since the USB port broke, is there a special way to dress the USB cable to avoid that? Ron --
Ron Hunsicker 1238 Cleveland Avenue Wyomissing, PA 19610-2102 ronhunsi at ptd dot net "Democracy dies in darkness" |
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Ron,
They have not been advertised, you need to ask Vianney. There may been a problem with the USB port. The USB cable that come with the upgrade kit is very stiff so probably best advice is to pre-bend the cable before plugging it into the downconverter.
Everett N4CY
In a message dated 12/22/2022 1:45:05 PM Central Standard Time, ronhunsi@... writes:
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What about Elad's requirement that the downconverter be installed by the factory?
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Vianney Colombat
I have these data available now (@192kHz, 500Hz BW): Noise floor @144MHz : ~ -137dBm, ~ -152dBm with preamp MDS @144MHz : ~ -127dBm, ~ -142dBm with preamp Clip @144MHz : ~ -9dBm, ~ -30dBm with preamp MDS @435MHz : ~ -126dBm, ~ -141dBm with preamp MDS @810MHz : ~ -124dBm, ~ -143dBm with preamp MDS @1240MHz : ~ -125dBm, ~ -139dBm with preamp MDS @2320MHz : ~ -122dBm, ~ -131dBm with preamp MDS @3010MHz : ~ -120dBm, ~ -128dBm with preamp MDS @4010MHz : ~ -113dBm, ~ -116dBm with preamp Regards, Vianney Il 22/12/2022 17:20, Conrad, PA5Y ha
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T.W.H. Fockens
Mmm, not impressive.
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What are the image rejection numbers and spurious responses? Koos PA0KDF On 17 Jan, Vianney Colombat <vianney@...> wrote:
I have these data available now (@192kHz, 500Hz BW): Regards, Vianney Il 22/12/2022 17:20, Conrad, PA5Y ha scritto: -- --
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Vianney,
Is there anyway that the software can be modified to be able to turn on the PERAMP for VLF, LW, MW and HF?
Everett N4CY
In a message dated 1/17/2023 10:13:09 AM Central Standard Time, vianney@... writes:
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Conrad, PA5Y
Thanks for the MDS info Vianney.
Regards
Conrad
From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io>
On Behalf Of Vianney Colombat via groups.io
Sent: 17 January 2023 17:13 To: EladSDR@groups.io Subject: Re: [EladSDR] S3 converter price point
Il 22/12/2022 17:20, Conrad, PA5Y ha scritto:
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Conrad, PA5Y
In a 500Hz BW a perfect receiver has ~ -174dBm/Hz + 26.9dB = ~ -147dBm, therefore -152dBm in 500Hz is impossible.
I think that this must be a mistake.
Regards
Conrad PA5Y
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On Behalf Of Vianney Colombat via groups.io
Sent: 17 January 2023 17:13 To: EladSDR@groups.io Subject: Re: [EladSDR] S3 converter price point
Il 22/12/2022 17:20, Conrad, PA5Y ha scritto:
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T.W.H. Fockens
Probably the noise floor refers to the displayed noise floor on screen.
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That is determined by the width of the bins of the FFT, << 500 Hz. But, indeed, this is not documented very well... Koos PA0KDF On 18 Jan, "Conrad, PA5Y" <g0ruz@...> wrote:
In a 500Hz BW a perfect receiver has ~ -174dBm/Hz + 26.9dB = ~ -147dBm, therefore -152dBm in 500Hz is impossible. I think that this must be a mistake. Regards Conrad PA5Y From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vianney Colombat via groups.io I have these data available now (@192kHz, 500Hz BW): Regards, Vianney Il 22/12/2022 17:20, Conrad, PA5Y ha scritto: Regards Conrad PA5Y From: EladSDR@groups.io<mailto:EladSDR@groups.io> <EladSDR@groups.io><mailto:EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vianney Colombat via groups.io For now, about 700¤ + VAT. Regards, Vianney Il 27/11/2022 18:49, Ron Hunsicker via groups.io ha scritto: Since the thing is under test, what is the price point? I'll be springing this on "She who must be obeyed" soon and I want to prepare the way. Ron -- Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio di posta elettronica sono riservate e confidenziali e ne è vietata la diffusione in qualunque modo eseguita (DL 196/2003). Qualora Lei non fosse la persona a cui il presente messaggio è destinato, La invitiamo ad eliminarlo e a non leggerlo, dandone gentilmente comunicazione al mittente. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may well also be legally privileged (DL 196/2003). If you are not among the named recipients, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system, do not use the contents for any purpose whatsoever nor disclose them to anyone else. -- Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio di posta elettronica sono riservate e confidenziali e ne è vietata la diffusione in qualunque modo eseguita (DL 196/2003). Qualora Lei non fosse la persona a cui il presente messaggio è destinato, La invitiamo ad eliminarlo e a non leggerlo, dandone gentilmente comunicazione al mittente. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may well also be legally privileged (DL 196/2003). If you are not among the named recipients, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system, do not use the contents for any purpose whatsoever nor disclose them to anyone else. --
Ir. T.W.H. Fockens Kieftweg 1 7165BR Rietmolen "Geweld kan alleen worden toegedekt met een leugen, en de leugen kan alleen worden volgehouden met geweld." (Aleksandr Solzjenitsyn) |
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Conrad, PA5Y
Yes I expect that you are right Koos.
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This is why it is better to use max gain, no agc and the demodulated audio and an audio power meter like Rob Sherwood and the ARRL do when quoting MDS. Otherwise how can we compare things? Also, is the clip level the actual value of the signal generator or what is shown in SW2, they could be very different things. Regards Conrad PA5Y -----Original Message-----
From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of T.W.H. Fockens via groups.io Sent: 18 January 2023 13:21 To: EladSDR@groups.io Subject: Re: [EladSDR] S3 converter price point Probably the noise floor refers to the displayed noise floor on screen. That is determined by the width of the bins of the FFT, << 500 Hz. But, indeed, this is not documented very well... Koos PA0KDF On 18 Jan, "Conrad, PA5Y" <g0ruz@...> wrote: In a 500Hz BW a perfect receiver has ~ -174dBm/Hz + 26.9dB = ~ -147dBm, therefore -152dBm in 500Hz is impossible. I think that this must be a mistake. Regards Conrad PA5Y From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Vianney I have these data available now (@192kHz, 500Hz BW): Regards, Vianney Il 22/12/2022 17:20, Conrad, PA5Y ha scritto: Regards Conrad PA5Y From: EladSDR@groups.io<mailto:EladSDR@groups.io> For now, about 700¤ + VAT. Regards, Vianney Il 27/11/2022 18:49, Ron Hunsicker via groups.io ha scritto: Since the thing is under test, what is the price point? I'll be springing this on "She who must be obeyed" soon and I want to prepare the way. Ron -- Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio di posta elettronica sono riservate e confidenziali e ne è vietata la diffusione in qualunque modo eseguita (DL 196/2003). Qualora Lei non fosse la persona a cui il presente messaggio è destinato, La invitiamo ad eliminarlo e a non leggerlo, dandone gentilmente comunicazione al mittente. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may well also be legally privileged (DL 196/2003). If you are not among the named recipients, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system, do not use the contents for any purpose whatsoever nor disclose them to anyone else. -- Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio di posta elettronica sono riservate e confidenziali e ne è vietata la diffusione in qualunque modo eseguita (DL 196/2003). Qualora Lei non fosse la persona a cui il presente messaggio è destinato, La invitiamo ad eliminarlo e a non leggerlo, dandone gentilmente comunicazione al mittente. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may well also be legally privileged (DL 196/2003). If you are not among the named recipients, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system, do not use the contents for any purpose whatsoever nor disclose them to anyone else. -- Ir. T.W.H. Fockens Kieftweg 1 7165BR Rietmolen "Geweld kan alleen worden toegedekt met een leugen, en de leugen kan alleen worden volgehouden met geweld." (Aleksandr Solzjenitsyn) |
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