Adjust order for filter bandwidth


Ad Dieleman
 
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In the FDM-SW2 program I am missing the option to set the order for the bandwidth filter ("Filter BW" in the upper right panel). I was used to this in the SDRSharp program for the Airspy HF+, where I set the filter order to 40 instead of the default.

As it is now in FDM-SW2, the filter order is fixed at a high order (I guess), like a brick-wall filter. This causes a ringing sound of frequencies around the cut-off frequency and this gives listening fatigue. It is especially bothersome with weak signals for a bandwidth of 2,75 kHz for USB and LSB and 5,5 kHz for SYNC AM. Now I often use 2,5 kHz for USB/LSB and 5 kHz for SYNC AM but this is not ideal, intelligibility suffers a bit.

This listening fatigue can be diminished by lowering the filter order and/or filter type for the bandwidth filter. Is there a way to do this? If not, I'd like Elad to consider including an option to set the filter order somewhere in the Settings panel. Thanks!


Paul Jones
 

Have you looked on SET / Demod settings, you can change or add Filter Bandwidths and the USB/LSB start settings.

 

 

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ad Dieleman
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 08:17
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

[Edited Message Follows]

In the FDM-SW2 program I am missing the option to set the order for the bandwidth filter ("Filter BW" in the upper right panel). I was used to this in the SDRSharp program for the Airspy HF+, where I set the filter order to 40 instead of the default.

As it is now in FDM-SW2, the filter order is fixed at a high order (I guess), like a brick-wall filter. This causes a ringing sound of frequencies around the cut-off frequency and this gives listening fatigue. It is especially bothersome with weak signals for a bandwidth of 2,75 kHz for USB and LSB and 5,5 kHz for SYNC AM. Now I often use 2,5 kHz for USB/LSB and 5 kHz for SYNC AM but this is not ideal, intelligibility suffers a bit.

This listening fatigue can be diminished by lowering the filter order and/or filter type for the bandwidth filter. Is there a way to do this? If not, I'd like Elad to consider including an option to set the filter order somewhere in the Settings panel. Thanks!


Bill / N1ASS
 

no I have not,I don't know how to do that.I'll try what you sent me on the picture 1st.

On 2/21/2019 3:49 PM, Paul Jones wrote:

Have you looked on SET / Demod settings, you can change or add Filter Bandwidths and the USB/LSB start settings.

 

 

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ad Dieleman
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 08:17
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

[Edited Message Follows]

In the FDM-SW2 program I am missing the option to set the order for the bandwidth filter ("Filter BW" in the upper right panel). I was used to this in the SDRSharp program for the Airspy HF+, where I set the filter order to 40 instead of the default.

As it is now in FDM-SW2, the filter order is fixed at a high order (I guess), like a brick-wall filter. This causes a ringing sound of frequencies around the cut-off frequency and this gives listening fatigue. It is especially bothersome with weak signals for a bandwidth of 2,75 kHz for USB and LSB and 5,5 kHz for SYNC AM. Now I often use 2,5 kHz for USB/LSB and 5 kHz for SYNC AM but this is not ideal, intelligibility suffers a bit.

This listening fatigue can be diminished by lowering the filter order and/or filter type for the bandwidth filter. Is there a way to do this? If not, I'd like Elad to consider including an option to set the filter order somewhere in the Settings panel. Thanks!

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Paul Jones
 

Bill That was an answer to someone else post not yours 😉

 

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 15:56
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

no I have not,I don't know how to do that.I'll try what you sent me on the picture 1st.

On 2/21/2019 3:49 PM, Paul Jones wrote:

Have you looked on SET / Demod settings, you can change or add Filter Bandwidths and the USB/LSB start settings.

 

 

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Paul

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ad Dieleman
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 08:17
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

[Edited Message Follows]

In the FDM-SW2 program I am missing the option to set the order for the bandwidth filter ("Filter BW" in the upper right panel). I was used to this in the SDRSharp program for the Airspy HF+, where I set the filter order to 40 instead of the default.

As it is now in FDM-SW2, the filter order is fixed at a high order (I guess), like a brick-wall filter. This causes a ringing sound of frequencies around the cut-off frequency and this gives listening fatigue. It is especially bothersome with weak signals for a bandwidth of 2,75 kHz for USB and LSB and 5,5 kHz for SYNC AM. Now I often use 2,5 kHz for USB/LSB and 5 kHz for SYNC AM but this is not ideal, intelligibility suffers a bit.

This listening fatigue can be diminished by lowering the filter order and/or filter type for the bandwidth filter. Is there a way to do this? If not, I'd like Elad to consider including an option to set the filter order somewhere in the Settings panel. Thanks!

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Bill / N1ASS
 

 oops,sorry.:-)

On 2/21/2019 4:12 PM, Paul Jones wrote:

Bill That was an answer to someone else post not yours 😉

 

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 15:56
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

no I have not,I don't know how to do that.I'll try what you sent me on the picture 1st.

On 2/21/2019 3:49 PM, Paul Jones wrote:

Have you looked on SET / Demod settings, you can change or add Filter Bandwidths and the USB/LSB start settings.

 

 

Have a Radiolutionary Day!
Paul

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ad Dieleman
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 08:17
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

[Edited Message Follows]

In the FDM-SW2 program I am missing the option to set the order for the bandwidth filter ("Filter BW" in the upper right panel). I was used to this in the SDRSharp program for the Airspy HF+, where I set the filter order to 40 instead of the default.

As it is now in FDM-SW2, the filter order is fixed at a high order (I guess), like a brick-wall filter. This causes a ringing sound of frequencies around the cut-off frequency and this gives listening fatigue. It is especially bothersome with weak signals for a bandwidth of 2,75 kHz for USB and LSB and 5,5 kHz for SYNC AM. Now I often use 2,5 kHz for USB/LSB and 5 kHz for SYNC AM but this is not ideal, intelligibility suffers a bit.

This listening fatigue can be diminished by lowering the filter order and/or filter type for the bandwidth filter. Is there a way to do this? If not, I'd like Elad to consider including an option to set the filter order somewhere in the Settings panel. Thanks!

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Ad Dieleman
 

Thanks for coming back to me. I have looked at the Demod settings indeed, I can change filter bandwidth and mode, but I'm pretty sure that it is not possible to change the order of the filter (order determining the cut-off characteristics of the filter). I hope that Elad can provide an extra setting to change filter order to diminish listening fatigue. 


Paul Jones
 

At the moment we cant do that, I’ve emailed the programming team to see what we can do, I know you can do it in SDR# like you said and also in SDR-Console

We’ll see what we can do…

 

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ad Dieleman
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 16:18
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

Thanks for coming back to me. I have looked at the Demod settings indeed, I can change filter bandwidth and mode, but I'm pretty sure that it is not possible to change the order of the filter (order determining the cut-off characteristics of the filter). I hope that Elad can provide an extra setting to change filter order to diminish listening fatigue. 


Ad Dieleman
 

Thanks for forwarding my request, hoping for the best!


Bill / N1ASS
 

this is what w8rj said: Bit 7 of the TX Status (F7 command) byte is not returning correctly. It's reversed from what it should be.

Radio in transmit the bit should be '1', Radio in receive should be '0'

On 2/21/2019 4:12 PM, Paul Jones wrote:

Bill That was an answer to someone else post not yours 😉

 

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 15:56
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

no I have not,I don't know how to do that.I'll try what you sent me on the picture 1st.

On 2/21/2019 3:49 PM, Paul Jones wrote:

Have you looked on SET / Demod settings, you can change or add Filter Bandwidths and the USB/LSB start settings.

 

 

Have a Radiolutionary Day!
Paul

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ad Dieleman
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 08:17
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

[Edited Message Follows]

In the FDM-SW2 program I am missing the option to set the order for the bandwidth filter ("Filter BW" in the upper right panel). I was used to this in the SDRSharp program for the Airspy HF+, where I set the filter order to 40 instead of the default.

As it is now in FDM-SW2, the filter order is fixed at a high order (I guess), like a brick-wall filter. This causes a ringing sound of frequencies around the cut-off frequency and this gives listening fatigue. It is especially bothersome with weak signals for a bandwidth of 2,75 kHz for USB and LSB and 5,5 kHz for SYNC AM. Now I often use 2,5 kHz for USB/LSB and 5 kHz for SYNC AM but this is not ideal, intelligibility suffers a bit.

This listening fatigue can be diminished by lowering the filter order and/or filter type for the bandwidth filter. Is there a way to do this? If not, I'd like Elad to consider including an option to set the filter order somewhere in the Settings panel. Thanks!

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Bill / N1ASS
 

I made a mistake. This thread doesn't belong here.sorry for the mistake.73.....Bill \ N1ASS 

Basilie Bill Actipis

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019, 17:29 Bill via Groups.Io <billn1ass=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

this is what w8rj said: Bit 7 of the TX Status (F7 command) byte is not returning correctly. It's reversed from what it should be.

Radio in transmit the bit should be '1', Radio in receive should be '0'

On 2/21/2019 4:12 PM, Paul Jones wrote:

Bill That was an answer to someone else post not yours 😉

 

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 15:56
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

no I have not,I don't know how to do that.I'll try what you sent me on the picture 1st.

On 2/21/2019 3:49 PM, Paul Jones wrote:

Have you looked on SET / Demod settings, you can change or add Filter Bandwidths and the USB/LSB start settings.

 

 

Have a Radiolutionary Day!
Paul

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From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ad Dieleman
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 08:17
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: [EladSDR] Adjust order for filter bandwidth

 

[Edited Message Follows]

In the FDM-SW2 program I am missing the option to set the order for the bandwidth filter ("Filter BW" in the upper right panel). I was used to this in the SDRSharp program for the Airspy HF+, where I set the filter order to 40 instead of the default.

As it is now in FDM-SW2, the filter order is fixed at a high order (I guess), like a brick-wall filter. This causes a ringing sound of frequencies around the cut-off frequency and this gives listening fatigue. It is especially bothersome with weak signals for a bandwidth of 2,75 kHz for USB and LSB and 5,5 kHz for SYNC AM. Now I often use 2,5 kHz for USB/LSB and 5 kHz for SYNC AM but this is not ideal, intelligibility suffers a bit.

This listening fatigue can be diminished by lowering the filter order and/or filter type for the bandwidth filter. Is there a way to do this? If not, I'd like Elad to consider including an option to set the filter order somewhere in the Settings panel. Thanks!

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