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Re: Newbie USB audio question [1 Attachment]

Kenneth Golubski
 

Thank you !


On Thursday, December 8, 2016 8:23 AM, "Neil neil@... [elad_sdr_en]" wrote:


 
Hi Ken, the devices are run by Windows, nothing to do with SW2 luckily, and the beta version is effectively the release version anyway.
Can you share the list of devices that you have available?
In WSJT-X, mine look like this:
Unlike WSJT10, it only lists the avaialble input devices
In WSJT10 they look like this:
   0        2         0       Microsoft Sound Mapper - Input
   1        2         0       Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   2        2         0       Line (FDM-DUO Audio Device)
   3        2         0       Line 3 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   4        2         0       Microphone (FDM-DUO Audio Devic
   5        2         0       Line 2 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   6        0         2       Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output
   7        0         2       Speakers (Realtek High Definiti
   8        0         2       Line 2 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   9        0         2       Line (FDM-DUO Audio Device)
  10        0         2       Line 3 (Virtual Audio Cable)
  11        0         2       Realtek Digital Output (Realtek
  12        0         2       E2442-4 (NVIDIA High Definition
  13        0         2       Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable)

User requested devices:   Input =  2   Output =  9
Default devices:          Input =  0   Output =  6
Will open devices:        Input =  2   Output =  9
Neil G4DBN

On 08/12/2016 13:08, Ken Golubski kennyg2482@... [elad_sdr_en] wrote:
 
I don't see a "USB Microphone" or "USB ..." anything. All I see is "FDM-DUO Audio Device". Is the problem that I am using the beta version of SW2 ?

Thanks,
Ken




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Re: Newbie USB audio question

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

Hi Ken, the devices are run by Windows, nothing to do with SW2 luckily, and the beta version is effectively the release version anyway.

Can you share the list of devices that you have available?

In WSJT-X, mine look like this:

Unlike WSJT10, it only lists the avaialble input devices

In WSJT10 they look like this:

   0        2         0       Microsoft Sound Mapper - Input
   1        2         0       Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   2        2         0       Line (FDM-DUO Audio Device)
   3        2         0       Line 3 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   4        2         0       Microphone (FDM-DUO Audio Devic
   5        2         0       Line 2 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   6        0         2       Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output
   7        0         2       Speakers (Realtek High Definiti
   8        0         2       Line 2 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   9        0         2       Line (FDM-DUO Audio Device)
  10        0         2       Line 3 (Virtual Audio Cable)
  11        0         2       Realtek Digital Output (Realtek
  12        0         2       E2442-4 (NVIDIA High Definition
  13        0         2       Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable)

User requested devices:   Input =  2   Output =  9
Default devices:          Input =  0   Output =  6
Will open devices:        Input =  2   Output =  9

Neil G4DBN

On 08/12/2016 13:08, Ken Golubski kennyg2482@... [elad_sdr_en] wrote:
 
I don't see a "USB Microphone" or "USB ..." anything. All I see is "FDM-DUO Audio Device". Is the problem that I am using the beta version of SW2 ?

Thanks,
Ken




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Re: Newbie USB audio question

Kenneth Golubski
 

I don't see a "USB Microphone" or "USB ..." anything. All I see is "FDM-DUO Audio Device". Is the problem that I am using the beta version of SW2 ?

Thanks,
Ken

Re: I have a couple of operating problems.

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

OK, is the checkbox in SW2 working in the opposite sense?  Try with LPF tickbox disabled in SW2 and see if it will tune past 54, then flip it back on and see if that is what is going on.  With it off, exit SW2 and go back ina dn see i that makes any difference.  The only settings for SW2 are in the FDM-SW2 folder under your documents folder, in XML format.  I can have a look at mine for comparison if it is still broken

Neil



On 08/12/2016 11:52, R GRAYSTOCK bobby_g22@... [elad_sdr_en] wrote:
 
Well done that man!!!  Yes it will tune up past 54 with computer disconnected. I have this day reloaded sw2 but no change. I used revo uninstaller and that clears reg when doing full delete. 
Thanks again for your interest.. Bob G




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Re: I have a couple of operating problems.

R GRAYSTOCK
 

Well done that man!!!  Yes it will tune up past 54 with computer disconnected. I have this day reloaded sw2 but no change. I used revo uninstaller and that clears reg when doing full delete. 
Thanks again for your interest.. Bob G

Re: I have a couple of operating problems.

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

Yes, avoid 1.147, it works fine, but locks up when you save settings.  Just annoying.

Just to be clear, does it tune past 54MHz in standalone mode, disconnected from the PC?

Neil


On 8 Dec 2016, at 08:55, R GRAYSTOCK bobby_g22@... [elad_sdr_en] <elad_sdr_en@...> wrote:


Hi Neil. Many thanks for your reply. As I  said in my original missive I have done all that as stated in para 5.5. (just done it again post yr message) but still only getting to 54 Mhz.  Hence I suspect that the problem is else where. How does my basic settings compare with yours?  I have not done the latest update because of the buggy reports on here. 
Thanks again and! best regards. Bob G 


Re: I have a couple of operating problems.

R GRAYSTOCK
 

Hi Neil. Many thanks for your reply. As I  said in my original missive I have done all that as stated in para 5.5. (just done it again post yr message) but still only getting to 54 Mhz.  Hence I suspect that the problem is else where. How does my basic settings compare with yours?  I have not done the latest update because of the buggy reports on here. 
Thanks again and best regards. Bob G 

Re: I have a couple of operating problems.

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

My other post disappeared.  Check you have disabled the LPF in SW2.  All you should need is to set the TXout as 0dBm and ensure the LPF is disabled, but if it is enabled in SW2, it will stop the radio tuning above 54MHz

Neil G4DBN


On 07/12/2016 18:13, bobby_g22@... [elad_sdr_en] wrote:
 

First the basics.

running a FDM-Duo.

User interface 04.58

RX Demod 01.29

TX Mod. 01.27

USB Interface 04.09

FPGA 02.00


Running win Ten.on Samsung laptop.


Prob 1. I want to listen to 2 meters.I have adjusted the menu's as stated in user manual page 5.5.

Still the limit is 54 Mhz. Clearly I am missing something, but what and where should i be looking?

!

Prob. 2  I want to play back audio recordings over the air. Recording is O.K. But the playback no way!

I have read all the instructions but there is no information on the problem. I am sure it must be possible,

Else whats the point?  Any help or pointers will be much appreciated.


TIA Bob G4WHX






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Re: I have a couple of operating problems.

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

A rather kludgy way I found was when I am using contesting software like Tucnak, I assign F12 to a file called something like c:\recording.wav, then when I make a recording with SW2, I have a simple batch file to copy a file specified on the command line into c:\recording.wav, then hit F12.  If I pick the latest recording file from the Recordings folder, that works OK.

Ugly, but it works.  Perhaps there is a neater way to do it using Powershell to find the most recent file in the SW2\recordiongs folder, and copy it to a standard location ready to hit F12, or even better, to send it to the FDM audio device and enable PTT while it is doing that.

Not obvious at the moment though.

Neil G4DBN

On 07/12/2016 18:13, bobby_g22@... [elad_sdr_en] wrote:
 

First the basics.

running a FDM-Duo.

User interface 04.58

RX Demod 01.29

TX Mod. 01.27

USB Interface 04.09

FPGA 02.00


Running win Ten.on Samsung laptop.


Prob 1. I want to listen to 2 meters.I have adjusted the menu's as stated in user manual page 5.5.

Still the limit is 54 Mhz. Clearly I am missing something, but what and where should i be looking?

!

Prob. 2  I want to play back audio recordings over the air. Recording is O.K. But the playback no way!

I have read all the instructions but there is no information on the problem. I am sure it must be possible,

Else whats the point?  Any help or pointers will be much appreciated.


TIA Bob G4WHX






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Re: I have a couple of operating problems.

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

If I set the DUO to TXout 0dBm on menu33, and in SW2, set the LPF off, I can tune to 144MHz.   Make sure the LPF tickbox in SW2 is cleared Performance isn't exactly stunning, and the FM breakthrough is bad, but it does work.

I was trying to play a WAV recording last night and failed, I'll have another try now and see if I can make it work.

Neil G4DBN


On 07/12/2016 18:13, bobby_g22@... [elad_sdr_en] wrote:
 

First the basics.

running a FDM-Duo.

User interface 04.58

RX Demod 01.29

TX Mod. 01.27

USB Interface 04.09

FPGA 02.00


Running win Ten.on Samsung laptop.


Prob 1. I want to listen to 2 meters.I have adjusted the menu's as stated in user manual page 5.5.

Still the limit is 54 Mhz. Clearly I am missing something, but what and where should i be looking?

!

Prob. 2  I want to play back audio recordings over the air. Recording is O.K. But the playback no way!

I have read all the instructions but there is no information on the problem. I am sure it must be possible,

Else whats the point?  Any help or pointers will be much appreciated.


TIA Bob G4WHX






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I have a couple of operating problems.

R GRAYSTOCK
 

First the basics.

running a FDM-Duo.

User interface 04.58

RX Demod 01.29

TX Mod. 01.27

USB Interface 04.09

FPGA 02.00


Running win Ten.on Samsung laptop.


Prob 1. I want to listen to 2 meters.I have adjusted the menu's as stated in user manual page 5.5.

Still the limit is 54 Mhz. Clearly I am missing something, but what and where should i be looking?


Prob. 2  I want to play back audio recordings over the air. Recording is O.K. But the playback no way!

I have read all the instructions but there is no information on the problem. I am sure it must be possible,

Else whats the point?  Any help or pointers will be much appreciated.


TIA Bob G4WHX


Re: FDM/S2 audio grossly delay - nearly 1.5 seconds

lasse moell
 

Have you looked at "Setup" "Audio" "Soundcard Play Buffer Size (ms)"?

You can specifiy how large the delay will be...

/Lasse SM5GLC

On 7 December 2016 at 16:28:34 +01:00, n612dw@... [elad_sdr_en] wrote:
 


im having a problem now where the audio coming out of the computer is delayed by over a second.


turning on/off the sound button - it takes more than a second to react (hear the sound turn on or off).

must be some buffering going on, anyone know how to reduce/eliminate the audio buffering/depth?


the audio is also > 1 second delayed from what appears on the waterfall/spectrum scope as well... very irritating...


using digital modes with other software does not incur the same delay.


PC has plenty of horsepower, and is idling even with FDM/S2 running.   has to be software... either the receiver software/USB driver/winblows... something...


anyone have a solution/suggestions?


-bob, w9zv 




FDM/S2 audio grossly delay - nearly 1.5 seconds

bob b
 

im having a problem now where the audio coming out of the computer is delayed by over a second.


turning on/off the sound button - it takes more than a second to react (hear the sound turn on or off).

must be some buffering going on, anyone know how to reduce/eliminate the audio buffering/depth?


the audio is also > 1 second delayed from what appears on the waterfall/spectrum scope as well... very irritating...


using digital modes with other software does not incur the same delay.


PC has plenty of horsepower, and is idling even with FDM/S2 running.   has to be software... either the receiver software/USB driver/winblows... something...


anyone have a solution/suggestions?


-bob, w9zv 

Re: Newbie USB audio question

cristorcelli@...
 

I hope I do not add to the confusion here, if there is any confusion.

. I thought this discussion began with a question about whether or not it was possible to run digital modes WITHOUT running FDM-SW2, specifically JT-65.

If that is the question, I do so routinely. I run FDM-DUO in standalone mode. Here is my setup with Ham Radio Deluxe DM-780.

I run Windows 7. The FDM-DUO is connected with all 3 USB cables to the computer.

In Ham Radio Deluxe setup, I designate TS-480 as the radio to which HRD will connect. I set the connection parameters to 38400 BPS, and the comport to the comport that appears in Windows Control Panel Device Manager when FDM-DUO is recognized by Windows.

I launch HRD Control and direct it to connect to the TS-480.

When control boots up, under Tools>Program Options> COM Port TX, I set NONE

Then I launch HRD Logbook. Then I launch DM-780.

In the DM-780 options for sound card I set:

Input (Receive)>Device: Microphone (USB Audio Device)

Output (Transmit): Line (USB Audio Device).

This setup allows me to use HRD control to establish operating mode, frequency, etc. HRD Logbook allows me to save any contacts I make to my log. When connected to the clusters through HRD Logbook I am able to double click on a spotted station, and FDM-DUO goes to that spot frequency, mode, etc.

When I command HRD DM-780 I can run any of the usual digital modes (BPSK31, Olivia, Contestia, etc) with FDM-DUO, and any contacts I make are automatically saved to the logbook.

I configured WSJT-65 as follows:

Radio: Ham Radio Deluxe.
Audio: Input: Microphone (USB Audio Device)
          Output: Line (USB Audio Device)

Then, when I command WSJT-65 to operation, it does all it's magic through HRD, and any contacts I make are recorded in my permanent HRD log.

I hope I did not just add to the confusion if there was any to begin with.

73 de NN3V
Charlie

   

Re: Weird issue on playback (2 kHz off-frequency)

Patrick <aunumero73@...>
 

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the tip !
Another weird thing happened : I was about to give it a try after I closed the program when I realized that the frequency reading was OK.
I closed SW2 once more, opened the file and everything went fine another time.

Don't know why it showed 2 kHz off at the first attempt ...

Patrick





2016-12-06 11:44 GMT+01:00 'Michael Yule' michaeldyule@... [elad_sdr_en] <elad_sdr_en@...>:

 

I have exactly the same problem. 2 kHz out. I don't have a solution, only a workaround - if you go to the end of the recording and let it loop through to the beginning again the frequency readout will correct (at least it does for me) .

 

It's annoying, and I'd really like a solution as well.

 

Regards,

 

Michael Yule

Nova Scotia Canada


Re: Weird issue on playback (2 kHz off-frequency)

Michael Yule
 

I have exactly the same problem. 2 kHz out. I don't have a solution, only a workaround - if you go to the end of the recording and let it loop through to the beginning again the frequency readout will correct (at least it does for me) .

 

It's annoying, and I'd really like a solution as well.

 

Regards,

 

Michael Yule

Nova Scotia Canada

Weird issue on playback (2 kHz off-frequency)

Patrick <aunumero73@...>
 

Hello Group,

Yesterday something weird happened when playing back a recording.

I ran 2 consecutive recordings. No problem at all with the first one, but the second one (made a couple of minutes later with exactly the same settings) shows 2 kHz off for each frequency (2 kHz below the actual frequency).
I mean WWV reads 9998 instead of 10000, Gander Radio reads 10049 instead of 10051 and so on.

I'm running v1.144.

Any idea ?

Regards 
Patrick

Re: QSF-06 has gone nuts

Paul Marbourg
 

Hi. 
First, make sure you have inserted the filter boards in the correct slots inside the QSF-06. 
The tiny tiny board stencils for the resistors reflect the slot numbers. First try I put them in in reverse order. 

Second, using FDM-DUO manager inside SW2 software, on the pre-selector tab, select the correct comm port and then open the pre-selector table. 
Once table is open, make sure the map matches the slots for the filters you installed. 

Third, set the band pass frequencies in units of Hertz in the table (NOT KHz or MHz units). 
For uninstalled slots, leave then unchecked. 
The last slot (slot six) is used with the bypass board, and is set to the full frequency range of the radio. Anytime you are not using a bandpass filter, the radio will default to this bypass board in slot six. 

Fourth, when using the QSF-06, the DUO ANTENNA MENU must be set to "two antennas". 

Fifth, aside from the funky blue ribbon cable that must be plugged in between the QSF-06 and the DUO, you MUST also have a PTT cable (1/8" stereo cable) hooked up between the QSF-06 and the FDM-DUO. Otherwise, the QSF-06 will not switch over to transmit LED when you key up the transmitter.  Since I usually run an amplifier chain (Metron MA1000B SS AMP to 3CX1200A7 GG AMP), it us necessary to use a Y splitter cable to allow QSF-06 operation with external amplification. If you elect to do this, make sure to set delays properly to hot switching the amplifier chain. Also beware of PTT hangup in transmit mode if you turn off the DUO radio while the amplifier us in the PTT chain. 

I hope this helps. Having to use hertz units for frequency range for the pre-selector table units threw me off the first time. 

Franco was VERY HELPFUL to set me straight. 

Cheers,
Paul WN7T
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On Dec 5, 2016, at 6:26 AM, nk7blee@... [elad_sdr_en] <elad_sdr_en@...> wrote:

 

My ELAD DUO transceiver works great and no problems with the software (FDM-SW2 recent beta version) on my Windows 7 PC . . . yet.  I have worked many QRP contacts already on CW, 40 meters and 20 meters. Excellent CW reception without doubt.  This radio matches my K3 and Flex 6500 receiver-wise.


I am having a nightmare with the QSF-06 preselector.  Here's my horror story--


1. I ordered the QSF-06 and three filters(40, 30, and 17 meters).  No problems with the install of the three filter boards.

2. The QSF-06 was connected to my DUO precisely as ordered by the operator's manual.

3  When I change bands with either the PC or the DUO, the QSF-06 tracks exactly and instantly, no problems evident.

4  However, when I attempt to transmit I get "HIGH  SWR" warning on the DUO.


If I disconnect the QSF-06 totally and reconnect my antenna coax to the DUO's RF output (the SO-239 marked RTX/TX) there no problem transmitting and I get SWR 1.1 with my present antenna system.


It appears to me that the QSF-06 is not switching my radio's transmitter output to the antenna and my DUO is thus seeing an open circuit at the RTX/TX coax attachment point.  I have read the skimpy QSF-06 owner's manual many times, gone online searching for help, etc and find no clues anywhere.  Am awaiting an answer from ELAD but don't hold your breath.


I have been licensed ham operator for 60 years and have owned a lot of sophisticated gear.  The DUO radio is fabulous but there is something crazy about my QSF-06 and I simply cannot discover it.


Help!

Re: QSF-06 has gone nuts

James Lee
 

Thanks for the various responses. I reconnected everything and now QSF-06 is working properly.


Yes, I get the blue "transmit" light on QSF-06 when I key the transmitter.
Yes, I now get good receiver performance.
Yes, I now have my SWR  = 1.1 when I hit the CW key.

I think, repeat THINK, that the error could have been mine in not hitting "Load" after carefully putting in all the band widths and slot assignments via FDM-DUO Manager.

Re: Newbie USB audio question

Andreas Rehberg
 

..in fact I always feel uncomfortable when selecting the 'same' Line (FDM-DUO Audio Device) for Input and Output .. but that's the way it is..
 
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An: elad_sdr_en@...
Betreff: Re: Aw: [elad_sdr_en] Re: Newbie USB audio question
 

 

I replied in haste when half asleep sorry!  I sent a modified message once I re-read the original question properly, but it seems to have disappeared into Yahoo-space.

Of course Andy and Tony are right. if you have the three USBs connected to the laptop, you just select the right audio stream for in and out and it works fine.

On my WSJT-10 I select these:

Audio     Input    Output     Device Name
Device  Channels  Channels
------------------------------------------------------------------
   0        2         0       Microsoft Sound Mapper - Input
   1        2         0       Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   2        2         0       Line (FDM-DUO Audio Device)
   3        2         0       Line 3 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   4        2         0       Microphone (FDM-DUO Audio Devic
   5        2         0       Line 2 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   6        0         2       Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output
   7        0         2       Speakers (Realtek High Definiti
   8        0         2       Line 2 (Virtual Audio Cable)
   9        0         2       Line (FDM-DUO Audio Device)
  10        0         2       Line 3 (Virtual Audio Cable)
  11        0         2       Realtek Digital Output (Realtek
  12        0         2       E2442-4 (NVIDIA High Definition
  13        0         2       Line 1 (Virtual Audio Cable)

User requested devices:   Input =  2   Output =  9
Default devices:          Input =  0   Output =  6
Will open devices:        Input =  2   Output =  9
Audio streams running normally.
******************************************************************

Neil G4DBN



 
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