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Re: Headsets

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

I use a Shure SM58 on a studio boom, going into a little Behringer mixer which sends analogue audio into my PC sound card.  I use the Heil Pro7 or a gaming headset for receive, I've also got some old Samson SR850 over-ear headphones that are nice to wear for long periods. I have tried the Heil and the gaming headset into the mixer, but it is just easier to plug the Heil directly into the DUO for the sort of radio I do.

The additional latency from using sound via the PC is a problem for contesting, where I am beaten by other stations unless I hit the footswitch while the CQing station is still talking.  For ragchewing it isn't an issue unless using VOX, when it does occasionally lead to doubling in a net where someone else started talking because they hadn't realised I had already pressed the PTT and started talking.  For conversational CW at high speeds, the receive latency is irritating, and of course you have to faff about putting the CW sidetone from the keyer or the DUO into a mixer channel to hear it directly instead of through the PC, otherwise keyer or hand CW is physically impossible.  Before I had the DUOs, I used to run full break-in CW, but that just doesn't seem possible with the DUO, and definitely not with audio via a PC.

I used to have a gaming headset, think it was a Fusion, can't recall the model, I gave it away to a needy gamer. That was very comfy and worked fine through the mixer.  I haven't tried the ultra-lightweight Sennheiser USB headset I use for work, but I prefer closed-cup headphones for radio and the Sennheisers are furiously expensive.  Gaming headsets are excellent value though, and designed for sad obsessives doing 18-hour red-eye gaming sessions.  Not sad obsessives doing 24 hour radio contests, no no no no, not at all.

Neil G4DBN



On 19/09/2020 04:27, R GRAYSTOCK via groups.io wrote:
Hello Simon. I agree with your comment regarding using a P.C, to get all the audio shaping etc.
To this end I have been looking for a headset+mic for some time.
Unfortunately I have heard many pros and cons for different manufacturers. Reading many of your
emails I have concluded that you have done quite a bit of work / trials on Elad ahd sdr kit.
Can I ask for your recommendation for a headset for communication? as distinct from studio work.
My laptop is from HP and tx is Elad + Duo.  IE mid range in expense terms.
Thanks for you contribution to the group
Regards Bob G4WHX

On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 21:14, Simon <ohhellnotagain@...> wrote:
This is all assuming you running elad direct.

Much better to use pc and say sdr console with headset into pc..that way one gets all the added  equaliser benefits etc on rx and tx.

For those who have not tried sdrc with duo,  give it ago..v3.24

> On 18 Sep 2020, at 21:00, Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...> wrote:
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> Heil Pro 7 with an HC5 dynamic insert, series capacitor and +12dB boost on mine and it works fine.  Icom inserts obviously better, and I had to make my own break-out for a footswitch
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> Neil G4DBN
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>> On 18/09/2020 20:50, Craig Williams KA6RWL wrote:
>> I use a Heil Pro 7 with a ICOM No Cap adapter and I get good reports.
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Neil
http://g4dbn.uk


Re: Headsets

R GRAYSTOCK
 

Hello Simon. I agree with your comment regarding using a P.C, to get all the audio shaping etc.
To this end I have been looking for a headset+mic for some time.
Unfortunately I have heard many pros and cons for different manufacturers. Reading many of your
emails I have concluded that you have done quite a bit of work / trials on Elad ahd sdr kit.
Can I ask for your recommendation for a headset for communication? as distinct from studio work.
My laptop is from HP and tx is Elad + Duo.  IE mid range in expense terms.
Thanks for you contribution to the group
Regards Bob G4WHX

On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 21:14, Simon <ohhellnotagain@...> wrote:
This is all assuming you running elad direct.

Much better to use pc and say sdr console with headset into pc..that way one gets all the added  equaliser benefits etc on rx and tx.

For those who have not tried sdrc with duo,  give it ago..v3.24

> On 18 Sep 2020, at 21:00, Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@...> wrote:
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> Heil Pro 7 with an HC5 dynamic insert, series capacitor and +12dB boost on mine and it works fine.  Icom inserts obviously better, and I had to make my own break-out for a footswitch
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> Neil G4DBN
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>> On 18/09/2020 20:50, Craig Williams KA6RWL wrote:
>> I use a Heil Pro 7 with a ICOM No Cap adapter and I get good reports.
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Re: Headsets

Klaus Brosche, DK3QN
 

Hi Tim, M0AFJ,

The rear Mike connector for DUO is 8-pin modular style, ICOM compatible.

For a headset with PTT outbound connection, I'd recommend visiting the
website

https://shop.eurofrequence.de/en

In the English version of his website, prices are in USD :-))
Dont't ask me why.

There, you can buy a complete headset or just an adapter to connect your
headphone to, plus this adapter can provide a PTT receptacle (for a foot-
switch, e.g.).

There, you neeed to specify your input and output connections for your
particular headset (Mike i.e.) plus the PTT connect plug details.

Whe are using one of his earlier headphone/mike devices with PTT
interface via Cinch at our club station.

I do not have any personal or business relation with that company at all!

73, Klaus, DK3QN


Am 18.09.2020 um 14:27 schrieb Tim Hague M0AFJ via groups.io:

Does anyone know of a suitable headset with PTT to use with the FDM Duo?

73 Tim M0AFJ



Re: Headsets

Simon
 

This is all assuming you running elad direct.

Much better to use pc and say sdr console with headset into pc..that way one gets all the added equaliser benefits etc on rx and tx.

For those who have not tried sdrc with duo, give it ago..v3.24

On 18 Sep 2020, at 21:00, Neil Smith G4DBN <neil@g4dbn.uk> wrote:

Heil Pro 7 with an HC5 dynamic insert, series capacitor and +12dB boost on mine and it works fine. Icom inserts obviously better, and I had to make my own break-out for a footswitch

Neil G4DBN

On 18/09/2020 20:50, Craig Williams KA6RWL wrote:
I use a Heil Pro 7 with a ICOM No Cap adapter and I get good reports.

Craig
KA6RWL





Re: Headsets

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

Heil Pro 7 with an HC5 dynamic insert, series capacitor and +12dB boost on mine and it works fine.  Icom inserts obviously better, and I had to make my own break-out for a footswitch

Neil G4DBN

On 18/09/2020 20:50, Craig Williams KA6RWL wrote:
I use a Heil Pro 7 with a ICOM No Cap adapter and I get good reports.

Craig
KA6RWL


Re: Headsets

Craig Williams KA6RWL
 

I use a Heil Pro 7 with a ICOM No Cap adapter and I get good reports.

Craig
KA6RWL


Re: Headsets

David KK7SS <d3j452@...>
 

IMHO,  almost any headset will work if you can get an adaptor to fit the RJ  plug.
And right angle phone plug adaptors are plentiful...


Re: Headsets

Tim Hague M0AFJ <m0afj@...>
 

Thanks everyone for your suggestions, I’ll sort something out

Best Regards
Tim Hague


On 18 Sep 2020, at 18:52, Christoph K. Schweiger <ckschweiger@...> wrote:

Hello Tim,

The ELAD uses the same Mic Wiring as ICOM, so any mic/headset with the pinout for ICOM will work.

Check out the RS55SL SuperLight Travel Headset from Arlan Communications (RadioSport) http://www.arlancommunications.com/products/amateurRadio/radioSport/rs101555SL.asp

It also has a jumper that has a right-angle plug for the headphones to keep the cable out of the way of front panel controls.  It also adds an inline PTT button.

73 Chris NE7EE
 


Re: Headsets

Christoph K. Schweiger
 

Hello Tim,

The ELAD uses the same Mic Wiring as ICOM, so any mic/headset with the pinout for ICOM will work.

Check out the RS55SL SuperLight Travel Headset from Arlan Communications (RadioSport) http://www.arlancommunications.com/products/amateurRadio/radioSport/rs101555SL.asp

It also has a jumper that has a right-angle plug for the headphones to keep the cable out of the way of front panel controls.  It also adds an inline PTT button.

73 Chris NE7EE
 


Re: Headsets

Simon
 

You will have to make a breakout box..
Then you can use anything you like.

By breakout box, I mean a box with flying lead from it into rj mic socket and into phones socket.
From box you plug in your headset.


ELAD FDM-S3 Current Draw

Ron Hunsicker
 

Paul,

Thanks for the information about the current draw of the OXCO; that's the unit that I ordered.

I have a Pyramid 3A linear supply which powers a number of small things.  Once I get the S3, I'll run it all for a bit and see how the voltage holds and how hot the Pyramid is.  I have larger supplies but insufficient undeveloped real estate on my desk without a major reorganization.


Ron



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Headsets

Tim Hague M0AFJ <m0afj@...>
 

Does anyone know of a suitable headset with PTT to use with the FDM Duo?

73 Tim M0AFJ


Re: ELAD FDM-S3 Current Draw

Paul Jones
 

Ok officially 
S3 with tcxo is 700mA
S3 with OCXO is 1100mA

Paul EladUSA 


On Sep 16, 2020, at 16:26, Ron Hunsicker via groups.io <ronhunsi@...> wrote:

Gentlemen:  Thank-you!


Ron


Could You Make a Broadband Recording for Me?

Bill Alpert
 

Three times each Wednesday (USA time), a dedicated group of radio amateurs participate in a high speed morse code event. I'm unable to hear the event from my home properly due to a very high noise floor in my location. I'm hoping an Elad owner would be willing to record one of these hour long events so that I can listen to it in detail and share it with others in our group for high speed morse code copy practice.

The event runs every Wednesday at 1300 – 1400z (favoring Asia/Pacific); 1900 – 2000z (favoring Europe/Africa); and 0300 – 0400z –Thursday (Wednesday evening in US/Canada).

I think the optimal recording location would be midwestern to eastern USA for either the 1900 UTC or 0300 Thursday UTC (Late night Wednesday in the US) session. You'll notice that the 20 and 40 meter ham bands light up for these events. You'll need a good antenna for the 14 MHz (1900 UTC session)  or 7 MHz frequency (0300 UTC session). I have several easy option to receive the large file produced. Thanks for considering my request. Here's a bit more information about the event and our club.

73 de Bill Alpert/ KG6NRV 

CWops Tests, or CWTs, are 60 minutes in duration and held on Wednesday each week. There are three events at times that favor different geographic areas on this same day. Everyone is welcome – you don’t have to be a CWops member to join the fun. CWTs are a good opportunity to meet other CW fans who may be interested in CWops membership. Six bands are used – 10, 15, 20, 40, 80 and 160m. Suggested frequencies are from 28 to 45 kHz from the band edges.  However, this range should not be considered a limit when activity is such that participants find it necessary to spread further.   Please be considerate of ongoing QSOs and mindful of ongoing or imminent DXpedition operations., W1AW transmissions, etc. Please slow down when called at a slower speed – we want everyone to feel welcome. Lots of Qs or just a few, please submit your results for each session at http://3830scores.com
PURPOSE
Meet and greet and show activity on the bands.  It’s a good public relations opportunity for CWops for those who haven’t heard of us yet.  It’s also an opportunity for interested non-members to garner the required nominations for membership.
TIMES
Every Wednesday at 1300 – 1400z (favoring Asia/Pacific); 1900 – 2000z (favoring Europe/Africa); and 0300 – 0400z –Thursday (Wednesday evening in US/Canada).

More information at CWOPS.ORG


New Option In v3.038 - Recording Speed

Bill Nollman
 

From the info.txt file (below) the “Recording Speed” options (Normal, Above_Normal, High, Realtime, Critical) look a lot like Windows process Priority settings. Is that what this is for or is it something different? If this is Windows Priority it would be better named that instead of Recording Speed.

 

Thanks,

Bill Nollman

Farmington, CT

USA

 

 

--> Version 3.038 / July 8, 2020

  - FDM-S3:

    1. new DLLs (ELAD_DspLib_v2_0_12_0_2 and ExtIOmc_ELAD_FDMS3_v1_3_0_2) 

    2. added recording priority, to set recording priority click on SET, go to

       the "Recorder/Player" tab, select the "Recording Speed" value and then

       click Apply or OK (this setting is done only during recording, for

       standard acquisition mode or PLAY-FILE mode everything works as previous

       software versions)

 


Re: ELAD FDM-S3 Current Draw

Ron Hunsicker
 

Gentlemen:  Thank-you!


Ron


Re: ELAD FDM-S3 Current Draw

Paul Jones
 

Ron

What bill said it’s under 1amp on rx

Paul EladUSA 


On Sep 16, 2020, at 16:00, Bill Nollman <billct97@...> wrote:



Ron,

 

Assuming the production S3 is no different than the beta S3 at 24MHz bandwidth the S3 draws 700 mA.

FYI, CPU usage on a 4th Gen i7 CPU is around 10%, when recording around 15%.

 

Bill

 

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Hunsicker via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 3:15 PM
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: [EladSDR] ELAD FDM-S3 Current Draw

 

Paul,

When the S3 is chugging along doing it's very best to display the entire FM band, how much power does it draw at 13.8VDC?


Thanks,

Ron


Re: ELAD FDM-S3 Current Draw

Bill Nollman
 

Ron,

 

Assuming the production S3 is no different than the beta S3 at 24MHz bandwidth the S3 draws 700 mA.

FYI, CPU usage on a 4th Gen i7 CPU is around 10%, when recording around 15%.

 

Bill

 

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Hunsicker via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 3:15 PM
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: [EladSDR] ELAD FDM-S3 Current Draw

 

Paul,

When the S3 is chugging along doing it's very best to display the entire FM band, how much power does it draw at 13.8VDC?


Thanks,

Ron


ELAD FDM-S3 Current Draw

Ron Hunsicker
 

Paul,

When the S3 is chugging along doing it's very best to display the entire FM band, how much power does it draw at 13.8VDC?


Thanks,

Ron


Re: +[EladSDR]+FDM-DUO+-+Firmware+upgrade+with+several+versions+behind.+#eladduo

Simon
 

Yes..fat 32 on stick

Good luck..it took me 4 different sticks to find one that works..
Use a good make one.

Once you find one that works it is super easy!

You will know if it does not work by seeing the tiny green leds flashing quickly for more than a few seconds, max typical time they should flash was on mine 10-15 secs before the red led come on.

Mag loop Simon

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