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Re: FM DUO Heat

Vianney Colombat
 

 
 
Vianney
 
From: "Clint Chron" <kiheiman@q.com>
To: <EladSDR@groups.io>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 15:41:28 -0700
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] FM DUO Heat
 
Here is a link that shows a number of inside pictures of the Duo.
 
 
You can see the cooling fan on pictures 18 and 24.  These kinds of fans are usually quite when new, but can become very noisy if they do not use ball bearings.
 
73
Clint
W7KEC
 
From: EladSDR@groups.io [mailto:EladSDR@groups.io] On Behalf Of Klaus Brosche, DK3QN
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 3:17 PM
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] FM DUO Heat
 
OK, there is one fan in my unit, just opened the DUO for curiosity.
 
Size of mine is 25x25x7 mm.
 
Never gets really audible when working CW @ 4 or 5 watts RF, antenna with reasonable SWR.
(I don't use headphones).
 
So, I just forgot about it :-))
 
Klaus, DK3QN
 
 
Am 24.12.2019 um 22:46 schrieb phoekzema Hoekzema:
Yep there is a fan.  On my radio ( I am exclusively digital ) it runs a lot.  It is not the quietest fan around either.  It also will add some noise on the monitors baseline, but usually down 70 or 80 Db from carrier level.  When running digital and using a hardrock 50 amp, the duo power is under a watt.  So the heat must becoming from the idle current in the finals. 
You will like the Duo, but maybe not the fan noise.
 
Peter WA7MOX
 
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From: Klaus Brosche, DK3QN
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 3:11 PM
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] FM DUO Heat
 
Hi Mark,
 
I don't recall that there is a fan inside the DUO.
 
Klaus, DK3QN
 
Am 24.12.2019 um 19:24 schrieb Mark Gottlieb:
Hi Everybody,

I should have my red transceiver this Friday and am looking forward to it.  Having owned a KX3 and KX2, one of my concerns would be heat buildup while operating the digital modes or SSB at full power.  In my opinion, the Elecraft QRP rigs' achilles heel is that they quickly overheat while operating continuously either in digital or SSB modes.  At that point, both radios revert to 5 watts, or less, output which is not made clear, of course, in their promotional materials.  I do know there is a fan in the ELAD so that should mitigate the issue.  I only see a few posts in the group regarding this.  Would anyone care to comment?

73

Mark
KK2L
 
 
 
 

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Re: No Mute via TCP? #fdm-sw2 #fmd-s2

 

Hi Jeff,

when a TCP is connected correctly with the right millisecond interval you get and set the Frequency, Mode, S-Meter data ecc... as the primary data you need.
In any case the read/set sequence for this continuous data request must be correct and does never interfere with OmniRig enabled ONLY with the SW2 Menu [Remote Ctrl] > [ ] Enable OmniRig. (don't activate Omnirig with your Software or other)

Concerning the Mute question:
Have a look at the SW2 [Audio] Menu settings [Volume Settings] maybe it works.
I don't know which transceiver you are using. (I presume the DUO i'm not using)

TS like Icom, Kenwood ecc. they use mute commands you could implement with your software. SerialPort using COM virtual ports.
It is possible to run TCP, OmniRig and p.e. COM1 together.

Raimund
https://groups.io/g/EladSDR/message/14452
.


Re: Recording multiple files failed

Bruce Portzer <bportzer@...>
 

Check the value for Set > Recording >  Maximum File Number.  Having it set to 5 might cause the problem you're having.

I keep it at 0 to allow an unlimited  number of files. 

Bruce

On 12/29/2019 2:38 AM, Otso Ylönen wrote:
Thanks Bill for your reply. You may be correct. I remember deleting old recordings one day during recording, as a result of another application warning about low disk space. It is likely this happened at the same time. 

I am used to get a low disk space warning from SW2 when I start recording; this has reminded me to delete old files. Failure to do so has led to SW2 stopping its recording when the disk is full. Now the behaviour was different.

BR, Otso

Bill Nollman <billct97@...> kirjoitti 28.12.2019 kello 20.14:

Otso, that is almost exactly what it looks like when you are out of disk space. But I suppose you have already checked that?

Bill

 

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Otso Ylönen
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:26 PM
To: EladSDR groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io>
Subject: [EladSDR] Recording multiple files failed

 

Hi,

 

I had a nasty case of IQ recording failing on the fifth file. I was recording medium waves with the 1,536 MHz bandwidth with FDM-S2. This has never happened to me before. There has been the occasional failure to start recording, yielding a 0kb file. That however, is possible to be spotted as the Rec indicator does not light up. This one cannot be seen at all before trying to play back the recording.

 

Note that while files 004 and 007 are just 1kB in size, the two in between are considerably larger. All of them show correct stop times in their header.

 

I do not expect I can recover these files. However, I really would like to avoid this in the future. Any ideas about the cause?

 

BR, Otso


Re: Recording multiple files failed

Otso Ylönen
 

Thanks Bill for your reply. You may be correct. I remember deleting old recordings one day during recording, as a result of another application warning about low disk space. It is likely this happened at the same time. 

I am used to get a low disk space warning from SW2 when I start recording; this has reminded me to delete old files. Failure to do so has led to SW2 stopping its recording when the disk is full. Now the behaviour was different.

BR, Otso

Bill Nollman <billct97@...> kirjoitti 28.12.2019 kello 20.14:

Otso, that is almost exactly what it looks like when you are out of disk space. But I suppose you have already checked that?

Bill

 

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Otso Ylönen
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:26 PM
To: EladSDR groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io>
Subject: [EladSDR] Recording multiple files failed

 

Hi,

 

I had a nasty case of IQ recording failing on the fifth file. I was recording medium waves with the 1,536 MHz bandwidth with FDM-S2. This has never happened to me before. There has been the occasional failure to start recording, yielding a 0kb file. That however, is possible to be spotted as the Rec indicator does not light up. This one cannot be seen at all before trying to play back the recording.

 

Note that while files 004 and 007 are just 1kB in size, the two in between are considerably larger. All of them show correct stop times in their header.

 

I do not expect I can recover these files. However, I really would like to avoid this in the future. Any ideas about the cause?

 

BR, Otso


Re: Microphone options

Mike Penkas
 


The microphone that comes with the ELAD doesn't sound bad.  I made a lot of contacts with good audio reports.  While trying to adjust levels I listened on another
receiver and heard a lot of mechanical clicks etc while using it.  I opened it up to see exactly how it was constructed.  Very basic.  The electret element seems to
be a very good match. The inside of the Microphone housing was stamped HM118.  My mic seemed very prone to mechanical noises being transmitted with PTT switch.
This is a very inexpensive microphone.  Here is a link to a seller on EBay.
Mike WA8EBM


On 12/28/2019 11:43 AM, Mark Gottlieb wrote:

Thank-you.  Now that I have actually received the radio, I am satisfied with the build quality of the microphone and will stick with it for a while.  I just completed a 1600km QSO on 7 watts.  So, I am satisfied at this time.

 

73

 

Mark

KK2L

 

antenna
              sunset

 

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:48 AM
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Microphone options

 

Hi, as far as I know all Icom microphones are electret type with bias, except some old hand microphones that are dynamic, but with a preamplifier that makes it works the same as the electret types. You should have no problem to use your Icom hand mic with the adaptor.

Seasons greetings,
73

Ariel
EA3CX 



Re: Recording multiple files failed

Bill Nollman
 

Otso, that is almost exactly what it looks like when you are out of disk space. But I suppose you have already checked that?

Bill

 

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Otso Ylönen
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:26 PM
To: EladSDR groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io>
Subject: [EladSDR] Recording multiple files failed

 

Hi,

 

I had a nasty case of IQ recording failing on the fifth file. I was recording medium waves with the 1,536 MHz bandwidth with FDM-S2. This has never happened to me before. There has been the occasional failure to start recording, yielding a 0kb file. That however, is possible to be spotted as the Rec indicator does not light up. This one cannot be seen at all before trying to play back the recording.

 

Note that while files 004 and 007 are just 1kB in size, the two in between are considerably larger. All of them show correct stop times in their header.

 

I do not expect I can recover these files. However, I really would like to avoid this in the future. Any ideas about the cause?

 

BR, Otso


Re: Recording multiple files failed

Otso Ylönen
 

 
Actually, already the third file is smaller than the expected 13,107,169 kB. When the playback hits the spot where things went wrong, I get an awful noise from my headphones.
 
BR, Otso
 
Gesendet: Samstag, 28. Dezember 2019 um 17:26 Uhr
Von: "Otso Ylönen" <otso.ylonen@...>
An: "EladSDR groups.io" <EladSDR@groups.io>
Betreff: [EladSDR] Recording multiple files failed
Hi,
 
I had a nasty case of IQ recording failing on the fifth file. I was recording medium waves with the 1,536 MHz bandwidth with FDM-S2. This has never happened to me before. There has been the occasional failure to start recording, yielding a 0kb file. That however, is possible to be spotted as the Rec indicator does not light up. This one cannot be seen at all before trying to play back the recording.
 
Note that while files 004 and 007 are just 1kB in size, the two in between are considerably larger. All of them show correct stop times in their header.
 
I do not expect I can recover these files. However, I really would like to avoid this in the future. Any ideas about the cause?
 
BR, Otso


Recording multiple files failed

Otso Ylönen
 

Hi,
 
I had a nasty case of IQ recording failing on the fifth file. I was recording medium waves with the 1,536 MHz bandwidth with FDM-S2. This has never happened to me before. There has been the occasional failure to start recording, yielding a 0kb file. That however, is possible to be spotted as the Rec indicator does not light up. This one cannot be seen at all before trying to play back the recording.
 
Note that while files 004 and 007 are just 1kB in size, the two in between are considerably larger. All of them show correct stop times in their header.
 
I do not expect I can recover these files. However, I really would like to avoid this in the future. Any ideas about the cause?
 
BR, Otso


Re: Microphone options

Mark Gottlieb <kk2l@...>
 

Thank-you.  Now that I have actually received the radio, I am satisfied with the build quality of the microphone and will stick with it for a while.  I just completed a 1600km QSO on 7 watts.  So, I am satisfied at this time.

 

73

 

Mark

KK2L

 

antenna sunset

 

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:48 AM
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Microphone options

 

Hi, as far as I know all Icom microphones are electret type with bias, except some old hand microphones that are dynamic, but with a preamplifier that makes it works the same as the electret types. You should have no problem to use your Icom hand mic with the adaptor.

Seasons greetings,
73

Ariel
EA3CX 


Re: Microphone options

Ariel <arravaz@...>
 

Hi, as far as I know all Icom microphones are electret type with bias, except some old hand microphones that are dynamic, but with a preamplifier that makes it works the same as the electret types. You should have no problem to use your Icom hand mic with the adaptor.

Seasons greetings,
73

Ariel
EA3CX 


Re: Getting a sound output error wsjtx

Mark Gottlieb <kk2l@...>
 

Hi Everybody,

 

Just made my first contact on FT8 at 8 watts using my Ciro Mazzoni Stealth Loop.  When I closed SW2, WSJT-x was working directly with the rig.  If anyone knows a workaround to get SW2 working with WSJT-x, please let me know what I am missing here.

 

73

 

Mark

KK2L

 

antenna sunset

 


Re: Getting a sound output error wsjtx

Mark Gottlieb <kk2l@...>
 

Hi Neil,

I am using my FDM DUO with SW2.  I have used WSJT-x for about 3 years with my FLEX and ANAN radios.  I have the three USB cables all plugged in. for the DUO, and I am getting decoding and CAT control on frequency changes.  I have WSJT-x configured as you show in this post.  And, I am getting a green button on "TEST CAT"  Here comes the "BUT"..  When I click on Test PTT, the SW2 software crashes.  When I unclick the Test PTT button, it all returns to normal.  Would you be able to point me in the right direction?

Love the radio on first unboxing.  Build quality is first rate.

73

Mark
KK2L


Re: Microphone options

Mike Penkas
 

Mic into 528e then into W2IHY IPlus 3 position interface with level controls for each switched output.  I then fed audio into a flex 5k, elad or ts990.  No other external amplification.
Mike WA8EBM


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Mark Gottlieb <kk2l@...>
Date: 12/27/19 17:16 (GMT-05:00)
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Microphone options

Great advice.  Thanks.  Is it safe to assume you were using an amp with the Symetrix 528e?

 

73

 

Mark

KK2L

 

 

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Penkas
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 3:58 PM
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Microphone options

 

On 12/27/2019 1:26 PM, Mark Gottlieb wrote:

FB.  It looks like there is an adaptor (OPC-589), from ICOM, that goes from 8 pin modular to 8 pin male adaptor that is available.  This would allow me to use a variety of ICOM mics.  Of course, assuming that most ICOM mics are electret type with bias?  Just as an example, would my handheld from my IC-9100 work with the FM DUO using the adaptor?

 

 

73

 

Mark

KK2L

 

 

I built a adapter from one end of a short 8 pin network cable and a 8 pin male connector.

I have a whole box of Icom mics and I tried a HM12, HM23, HM36, HM151, HM154T, HM198 and even a SM6. 

They all worked with the ELAD.  The best one I have tried and am using now is the HM103 that came with my old IC706MKIIG.

It has the best sounding audio and output.  Also tried a PR-40 and RE27 N/D which were excellent thru W2IHY gear or a Symetrix

528E voice processor.

Mike WA8EBM


Re: Microphone options

Mark Gottlieb <kk2l@...>
 

Great advice.  Thanks.  Is it safe to assume you were using an amp with the Symetrix 528e?

 

73

 

Mark

KK2L

 

antenna sunset

 

From: EladSDR@groups.io <EladSDR@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Penkas
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 3:58 PM
To: EladSDR@groups.io
Subject: Re: [EladSDR] Microphone options

 

On 12/27/2019 1:26 PM, Mark Gottlieb wrote:

FB.  It looks like there is an adaptor (OPC-589), from ICOM, that goes from 8 pin modular to 8 pin male adaptor that is available.  This would allow me to use a variety of ICOM mics.  Of course, assuming that most ICOM mics are electret type with bias?  Just as an example, would my handheld from my IC-9100 work with the FM DUO using the adaptor?

 

 

73

 

Mark

KK2L

 

antenna
              sunset

 

I built a adapter from one end of a short 8 pin network cable and a 8 pin male connector.

I have a whole box of Icom mics and I tried a HM12, HM23, HM36, HM151, HM154T, HM198 and even a SM6. 

They all worked with the ELAD.  The best one I have tried and am using now is the HM103 that came with my old IC706MKIIG.

It has the best sounding audio and output.  Also tried a PR-40 and RE27 N/D which were excellent thru W2IHY gear or a Symetrix

528E voice processor.

Mike WA8EBM


Re: Microphone options

Mike Penkas
 

On 12/27/2019 1:26 PM, Mark Gottlieb wrote:

FB.  It looks like there is an adaptor (OPC-589), from ICOM, that goes from 8 pin modular to 8 pin male adaptor that is available.  This would allow me to use a variety of ICOM mics.  Of course, assuming that most ICOM mics are electret type with bias?  Just as an example, would my handheld from my IC-9100 work with the FM DUO using the adaptor?

 

 

73

 

Mark

KK2L

 

antenna
              sunset

 

I built a adapter from one end of a short 8 pin network cable and a 8 pin male connector.

I have a whole box of Icom mics and I tried a HM12, HM23, HM36, HM151, HM154T, HM198 and even a SM6. 

They all worked with the ELAD.  The best one I have tried and am using now is the HM103 that came with my old IC706MKIIG.

It has the best sounding audio and output.  Also tried a PR-40 and RE27 N/D which were excellent thru W2IHY gear or a Symetrix

528E voice processor.

Mike WA8EBM


No Mute via TCP? #fdm-sw2 #fmd-s2

Jeff Patterson
 

I'm writing a program to synchronize my transceiver frequency to the fdm-s2 and visa-versa without using Omnirig which has some unfortunate side effects. It's working fine but now the SDR does not mute when I transmit. Looking through the TCP documentation I don't see any way to mute the audio channels. I know I can do it with HW but I don't have the connector yet.

Am I missing something?

Jeff NG6X


Re: Getting a sound output error wsjtx

MM6IXE <sota@...>
 
Edited

Hi
ive done away with the hub and now have the three leads plugged in to separate USB ports on new laptop

Still no audio on wsjtx and still the warning

every time I go into sound settings on windows I get the error in the picture

i have 2 blue coloured usb and 1 black on this Acer Nitro 5 and it’s a gaming laptop of a week old
iain


Re: Microphone options

Mark Gottlieb <kk2l@...>
 

FB.  It looks like there is an adaptor (OPC-589), from ICOM, that goes from 8 pin modular to 8 pin male adaptor that is available.  This would allow me to use a variety of ICOM mics.  Of course, assuming that most ICOM mics are electret type with bias?  Just as an example, would my handheld from my IC-9100 work with the FM DUO using the adaptor?

 

 

73

 

Mark

KK2L

 

antenna sunset

 


Re: Microphone options

Neil Smith G4DBN
 

Hi Mark, it's an Icom standard connection, electret with bias.  I use a Heil headset, and you can get an Icom-style insert, but I use a dynamic HC-5 with +12dB boost and Compression 8 on the DUO menus, and a 5uF blocking capacitor on the insert,  I take the PTT out to a footswitch.  Any Icom-compatible electret mic should work. 

Neil G4DBN

On 27/12/2019 16:17, Mark Gottlieb wrote:
Hi Everybody,

Expecting my new FM DUO today and was thinking about alternative microphone to the OEM included with the radio. I saw it in a video that this rig is ICOM compliant.  I think it was a ARRL introduction “lab” presentation   However, the CAT 5 input has me confused.  If anything, I would think this is a Yaesu friendly radio in terms of microphone.  Any advice on this?

73

Mark
KK2L
-- 
Neil
<a href="http://g4dbn.uk/"><small>g4dbn.uk</small></a>


Microphone options

Mark Gottlieb <kk2l@...>
 

Hi Everybody,

Expecting my new FM DUO today and was thinking about alternative microphone to the OEM included with the radio. I saw it in a video that this rig is ICOM compliant.  I think it was a ARRL introduction “lab” presentation   However, the CAT 5 input has me confused.  If anything, I would think this is a Yaesu friendly radio in terms of microphone.  Any advice on this?

73

Mark
KK2L

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