Update on dev.java presentation and group comments from November discussion/December discussion will be Tuesday 7 December 8:30 am PST


Heather VanCura
 

Our next group discussion will be on 7 December at 8:30 am PST (zoom link to follow).  We will have an update on Oracle Academy at that meeting.


Please see attached for presentation to the group on dev.java. Below are some of the comments from the group. 

Getting Started with Java is very verbose with too much text. For example, do we need to bake in all operating systems install instructions in this single document? Can we use a tabbed view to organize the information better? Add an image that explains the workflow.

 

 

- On https://dev.java/community/, can we move jDuchess next to Java Champions? They're both communities of people.

 

 

- There is definitely a scope for adding a section "New to Java". This will introduce developers who are coming from different languages and want to get started with Java.

 

- Can code samples and links to other Java projects be added?

The content currently is clearly the taster’s view. In the early days of Java it was established developers who looked to Sun and then Oracle for learning about this new language. While this category of learner still needs to be served, there is also a need for students learning about programming for the first time.

 

As the inventory of articles increases could they be organized in a manner that could assist teachers and students. Whether it’s a high school teacher who finds the computer course on their schedule for next term or a tenured professor who suddenly finds programming 101 on their teaching load, this site could provide support. Educators want to see articles that begin with a problem and go through the process of solving it. There are many great writers out there who might enjoy taking this approach in their writing rather than a technical explanation on regular expressions, for example. The Oracle Academy already has a number of courses and dev.java should not re-invent that wheel. Can the curriculum be based on the articles published on this site.

 

Another idea is to have a blog review section. A search on most anything can turn up tens of thousands of results. Google ranking and appropriateness to the task are not necessarily the same. Short reviews of no more than 3 or 4 paragraphs on worthwhile blog posts. No negative reviews, just a cultivated selection of blogs worth reading by both developers and learners.

 

Does server-side or back end Java fit here? Will this site also cultivate articles on Jakarata, Spring, microprofile, and others? What about IoT?

 

There is a hope that community members can contribute to the site and look forward to it becoming the go to site for learning Java at all levels for all reasons.

- Heather


Constantin DRABO
 

Hello Heather; 
Thank you much for sharing. 
Constantin

Le jeu. 25 nov. 2021 à 01:05, Heather VanCura <heather@...> a écrit :

Our next group discussion will be on 7 December at 8:30 am PST (zoom link to follow).  We will have an update on Oracle Academy at that meeting.


Please see attached for presentation to the group on dev.java. Below are some of the comments from the group. 

Getting Started with Java is very verbose with too much text. For example, do we need to bake in all operating systems install instructions in this single document? Can we use a tabbed view to organize the information better? Add an image that explains the workflow.

 

 

- On https://dev.java/community/, can we move jDuchess next to Java Champions? They're both communities of people.

 

 

- There is definitely a scope for adding a section "New to Java". This will introduce developers who are coming from different languages and want to get started with Java.

 

- Can code samples and links to other Java projects be added?

The content currently is clearly the taster’s view. In the early days of Java it was established developers who looked to Sun and then Oracle for learning about this new language. While this category of learner still needs to be served, there is also a need for students learning about programming for the first time.

 

As the inventory of articles increases could they be organized in a manner that could assist teachers and students. Whether it’s a high school teacher who finds the computer course on their schedule for next term or a tenured professor who suddenly finds programming 101 on their teaching load, this site could provide support. Educators want to see articles that begin with a problem and go through the process of solving it. There are many great writers out there who might enjoy taking this approach in their writing rather than a technical explanation on regular expressions, for example. The Oracle Academy already has a number of courses and dev.java should not re-invent that wheel. Can the curriculum be based on the articles published on this site.

 

Another idea is to have a blog review section. A search on most anything can turn up tens of thousands of results. Google ranking and appropriateness to the task are not necessarily the same. Short reviews of no more than 3 or 4 paragraphs on worthwhile blog posts. No negative reviews, just a cultivated selection of blogs worth reading by both developers and learners.

 

Does server-side or back end Java fit here? Will this site also cultivate articles on Jakarata, Spring, microprofile, and others? What about IoT?

 

There is a hope that community members can contribute to the site and look forward to it becoming the go to site for learning Java at all levels for all reasons.

- Heather



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ARNOL ESPITALETA SIERRA
 

Really thanks for this information, next time I will be there. A big hug from Colombia.

Regards,

Arnol









El mié, 24 nov 2021 a las 20:05, Heather VanCura (<heather@...>) escribió:

Our next group discussion will be on 7 December at 8:30 am PST (zoom link to follow).  We will have an update on Oracle Academy at that meeting.


Please see attached for presentation to the group on dev.java. Below are some of the comments from the group. 

Getting Started with Java is very verbose with too much text. For example, do we need to bake in all operating systems install instructions in this single document? Can we use a tabbed view to organize the information better? Add an image that explains the workflow.

 

 

- On https://dev.java/community/, can we move jDuchess next to Java Champions? They're both communities of people.

 

 

- There is definitely a scope for adding a section "New to Java". This will introduce developers who are coming from different languages and want to get started with Java.

 

- Can code samples and links to other Java projects be added?

The content currently is clearly the taster’s view. In the early days of Java it was established developers who looked to Sun and then Oracle for learning about this new language. While this category of learner still needs to be served, there is also a need for students learning about programming for the first time.

 

As the inventory of articles increases could they be organized in a manner that could assist teachers and students. Whether it’s a high school teacher who finds the computer course on their schedule for next term or a tenured professor who suddenly finds programming 101 on their teaching load, this site could provide support. Educators want to see articles that begin with a problem and go through the process of solving it. There are many great writers out there who might enjoy taking this approach in their writing rather than a technical explanation on regular expressions, for example. The Oracle Academy already has a number of courses and dev.java should not re-invent that wheel. Can the curriculum be based on the articles published on this site.

 

Another idea is to have a blog review section. A search on most anything can turn up tens of thousands of results. Google ranking and appropriateness to the task are not necessarily the same. Short reviews of no more than 3 or 4 paragraphs on worthwhile blog posts. No negative reviews, just a cultivated selection of blogs worth reading by both developers and learners.

 

Does server-side or back end Java fit here? Will this site also cultivate articles on Jakarata, Spring, microprofile, and others? What about IoT?

 

There is a hope that community members can contribute to the site and look forward to it becoming the go to site for learning Java at all levels for all reasons.

- Heather




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