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70 Years Ago...


Curtis Brookshire
 

As we're all aware, 70 years ago today the ET&WNC ran its last revenue train from Elizabethton to Cranberry and back. This was probably the best documented freight train - we've seen some nice rolls from passenger excursions. Jack Alexander, Vince Ryan and John Krause's photos are all familiar to us. So, what was in that train and where were those cars going? The following is based on some published stories and some basic railroad operating philosophies, but has a degree of speculation, so feel free to correct any errors you might find.

The famous shot of the train climbing State Line Hill shows a couple of gondolas followed by a string of boxcars. The gondolas were bound for Cranberry with told for the scrappers. I would assume the cars might have been used to hold rails being lifted by said scrappers. Some of the boxcars had been sold to be used as sheds on local farms. Sherman Pippin is said to have bought three of them. At least one car was a load - wood picked up in Roan Mountain for Graybeal Lumber - the last narrow gauge revenue load. Any remaining cars would have been brought back to Elizabethton for scrapping. When a railroad lists a line as abandoned, they usually run a "funeral train" to bring any remaining interchange and company cars off the line, as from this point forward the line would no longer be dispatched and under the control of the salvage company. I'm also told that at least one of the motorcars was leased by the scrappers. Without known photos of the scrappers in action, I have no visual proof. #11 ran at least once more after this date. Standard gauge #204 derailed its tender in Elizabethton and there is a photo of 11 assisting in re-railing the tender. 11's front coupler knuckle is missing and the engine is more heavily weathered than it was on October 16th, so we've concluded this took place after the last run to Cranberry. 

Even though the Narrow Gauge ended service, the spirit of the ET&WNC still lives through us, our photos, models, museums and of course the DRG and Tweetsie RR. 

Best wishes,
Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level, NC


Curtis Brookshire
 

Make that “tools” for the scrappers in the gons. 


Tweetsie12
 

Huh, I'd completely forgot today is the anniversary of that fateful run. It's a crying shame that both #11 and #9 had to lay claim to the scrapyard. Oh Well, At least #12's still with us.


Dean Smith
 

Curtis,
    Thanks for sharing this.
 
Dean
 

From: Tweetsie12
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ETWNC] 70 Years Ago...
 
Huh, I'd completely forgot today is the anniversary of that fateful run. It's a crying shame that both #11 and #9 had to lay claim to the scrapyard. Oh Well, At least #12's still with us.


Lee Bishop
 

Thanks for the reminder...

--
Lee Bishop
Owner, Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30 gauge


Al Spainhour
 

I really appreciate all the people who have done so much to preserve the ET equipment that exists to this day.  Of course, a lot has been lost forever, but the events that saved #12, the 505 caboose,

The combine 15, boxcars, Linville Depot, and the Doe River Gorge ROW,  are really quite a story.  Any of these could have been so easily lost.  Thanks, too, to the historians of all sorts who have documented, and continue to document, the story. 

 

Thanks!

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Subject: [ETWNC] 70 Years Ago...

 

As we're all aware, 70 years ago today the ET&WNC ran its last revenue train from Elizabethton to Cranberry and back. This was probably the best documented freight train - we've seen some nice rolls from passenger excursions. Jack Alexander, Vince Ryan and John Krause's photos are all familiar to us. So, what was in that train and where were those cars going? The following is based on some published stories and some basic railroad operating philosophies, but has a degree of speculation, so feel free to correct any errors you might find.

The famous shot of the train climbing State Line Hill shows a couple of gondolas followed by a string of boxcars. The gondolas were bound for Cranberry with told for the scrappers. I would assume the cars might have been used to hold rails being lifted by said scrappers. Some of the boxcars had been sold to be used as sheds on local farms. Sherman Pippin is said to have bought three of them. At least one car was a load - wood picked up in Roan Mountain for Graybeal Lumber - the last narrow gauge revenue load. Any remaining cars would have been brought back to Elizabethton for scrapping. When a railroad lists a line as abandoned, they usually run a "funeral train" to bring any remaining interchange and company cars off the line, as from this point forward the line would no longer be dispatched and under the control of the salvage company. I'm also told that at least one of the motorcars was leased by the scrappers. Without known photos of the scrappers in action, I have no visual proof. #11 ran at least once more after this date. Standard gauge #204 derailed its tender in Elizabethton and there is a photo of 11 assisting in re-railing the tender. 11's front coupler knuckle is missing and the engine is more heavily weathered than it was on October 16th, so we've concluded this took place after the last run to Cranberry. 

Even though the Narrow Gauge ended service, the spirit of the ET&WNC still lives through us, our photos, models, museums and of course the DRG and Tweetsie RR. 

Best wishes,
Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level, NC


Mark Milbourne
 

Trains operated at in the gorge Fri/Sat/Sun this weekend as part of our Maze of Life corn maze / fall festival program.   We were sure to mention the anniversary to everyone that rode, along with all the normal basic ET&WNC history and a fun story or two.   We had a huge turnout, probably near 1500 and 2 more weekends of this coming up and colors still coming to peak, so check out the DRG website for details and come next weekend if you can.    Sorry for the lack of advance notice on this – been kinda busy!

 

I’m sure those old timers on that last run, somewhat somber, knowing the scrap trains were coming, would never have dreamed that 12 would live on at Tweetsie and that trains would run again in the gorge.  And now 70 years on, even longer now than the entire narrow gauge operation which was 68 years.

 

Mark

 

From: ETWNC@groups.io [mailto:ETWNC@groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Brookshire via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 5:42 AM
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Subject: [ETWNC] 70 Years Ago...

 

As we're all aware, 70 years ago today the ET&WNC ran its last revenue train from Elizabethton to Cranberry and back. This was probably the best documented freight train - we've seen some nice rolls from passenger excursions. Jack Alexander, Vince Ryan and John Krause's photos are all familiar to us. So, what was in that train and where were those cars going? The following is based on some published stories and some basic railroad operating philosophies, but has a degree of speculation, so feel free to correct any errors you might find.

The famous shot of the train climbing State Line Hill shows a couple of gondolas followed by a string of boxcars. The gondolas were bound for Cranberry with told for the scrappers. I would assume the cars might have been used to hold rails being lifted by said scrappers. Some of the boxcars had been sold to be used as sheds on local farms. Sherman Pippin is said to have bought three of them. At least one car was a load - wood picked up in Roan Mountain for Graybeal Lumber - the last narrow gauge revenue load. Any remaining cars would have been brought back to Elizabethton for scrapping. When a railroad lists a line as abandoned, they usually run a "funeral train" to bring any remaining interchange and company cars off the line, as from this point forward the line would no longer be dispatched and under the control of the salvage company. I'm also told that at least one of the motorcars was leased by the scrappers. Without known photos of the scrappers in action, I have no visual proof. #11 ran at least once more after this date. Standard gauge #204 derailed its tender in Elizabethton and there is a photo of 11 assisting in re-railing the tender. 11's front coupler knuckle is missing and the engine is more heavily weathered than it was on October 16th, so we've concluded this took place after the last run to Cranberry. 

Even though the Narrow Gauge ended service, the spirit of the ET&WNC still lives through us, our photos, models, museums and of course the DRG and Tweetsie RR. 

Best wishes,
Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level, NC