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Update on Rail Removal
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potter1954
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Mark Milbourne
Contrary to the article which stated that they'd start on the east end
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(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30 this morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near the former Inland Container. Regardless of the order taken up, it's the beginning of the end. In the meantime, the ET Rwy is VERY busy with traffic in JC. Just happened to talk to Darrell yesterday. Mark
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From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of potter1954 Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:47 AM To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/article.php?id=97416 ------------------------------------
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Rae Augenstein
I sometimes hear the ETRY train horns from my house, and occasionally I'm
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at Legion Street when the trains are crossing SoF. Makes me smile every time. :) - Rae ~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Milbourne <mark@doerivergorge.com>wrote:
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Julia Williams Kodak
If any of you are on Facebook and "like" the JC Press I could use a little
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back up. I voiced my opinion on today's story and I'm getting some backlash. I'm not good at debates.. or not near as good as some of you have proven to be. :) I could use some opinions on our side. Thanks, Julia Julia Williams Kodak Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill, Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Goodson, Golding (Golden), Gollehon, Johnson, Kodak, Moore, Musser, Norman, Rowland, Scott, Snow, Suit, Sturgill, Upchurch, Williams, and Wymer in SW VA and W NC and the people of Shell Creek, Carter Co., TN. "The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
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GetGlowing@gmail.com writes: I sometimes hear the ETRY train horns from my house, and occasionally I'm at Legion Street when the trains are crossing SoF. Makes me smile every time. :) - Rae ~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Milbourne <mark@doerivergorge.com>wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Ken Riddle
There you go Julia-that should get the little girlie men tree huggers
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excited. Ken From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jkodak@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:53 PM To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal If any of you are on Facebook and "like" the JC Press I could use a little back up. I voiced my opinion on today's story and I'm getting some backlash. I'm not good at debates.. or not near as good as some of you have proven to be. :) I could use some opinions on our side. Thanks, Julia Julia Williams Kodak Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill, Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Goodson, Golding (Golden), Gollehon, Johnson, Kodak, Moore, Musser, Norman, Rowland, Scott, Snow, Suit, Sturgill, Upchurch, Williams, and Wymer in SW VA and W NC and the people of Shell Creek, Carter Co., TN. "The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
In a message dated 1/11/2012 12:26:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
GetGlowing@gmail.com <mailto:GetGlowing%40gmail.com> writes: I sometimes hear the ETRY train horns from my house, and occasionally I'm at Legion Street when the trains are crossing SoF. Makes me smile every time. :) - Rae ~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Milbourne <mark@doerivergorge.com <mailto:mark%40doerivergorge.com> >wrote: **[mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of potter1954 ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Julia Williams Kodak
Thanks! I figured you could do the trick.
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Julia Julia Williams Kodak Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill, Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Goodson, Golding (Golden), Gollehon, Johnson, Kodak, Moore, Musser, Norman, Rowland, Scott, Snow, Suit, Sturgill, Upchurch, Williams, and Wymer in SW VA and W NC and the people of Shell Creek, Carter Co., TN. "The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23
In a message dated 1/12/2012 3:03:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
keriddle@yatesind.com writes: There you go Julia-that should get the little girlie men tree huggers excited. Ken From: _Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of _Jkodak@aol.com_ (mailto:Jkodak@aol.com) Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:53 PM To: _Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com) Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal If any of you are on Facebook and "like" the JC Press I could use a little back up. I voiced my opinion on today's story and I'm getting some backlash. I'm not good at debates.. or not near as good as some of you have proven to be. :) I could use some opinions on our side. Thanks, Julia Julia Williams Kodak Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill, Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Goodson, Golding (Golden), Gollehon, Johnson, Kodak, Moore, Musser, Norman, Rowland, Scott, Snow, Suit, Sturgill, Upchurch, Williams, and Wymer in SW VA and W NC and the people of Shell Creek, Carter Co., TN. "The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23 In a message dated 1/11/2012 12:26:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _GetGlowing@gmail.com_ (mailto:GetGlowing@gmail.com) <mailto:GetGlowing%40gmail.com> writes: I sometimes hear the ETRY train horns from my house, and occasionally I'm at Legion Street when the trains are crossing SoF. Makes me smile every time. :) - Rae ~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Milbourne <_mark@doerivergorge.com_ (mailto:mark@doerivergorge.com) <mailto:mark%40doerivergorge.com> >wrote: **<mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:_Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com) <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of potter1954<mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal(http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/article.php?id=97416) ------------------------------------[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Andy
Hi Mark,
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Would you please share some of Darrell's information on the current business in the ET? Thank, Andy
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Andy
Hi Mark,
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Would you please share some of Darrell's information on the current business in the ET? Thank, Andy
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Mark Milbourne
Well, I don't remember the exact details offhand. But they're moving a
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LOT of cars each month. Lot of traffic with JC Chemical; salt is being trucked in and loaded on cars to go to Florida (can't remember what for). Omnisource now has a big scrap operation adjacent to the rail yard; if I understood him correctly, they actually bought that property from the RR. Those were the main things that he mentioned in the course of the conversation. Sorry I didn't capture all of the exact details.
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From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:13 AM To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: Update on Rail Removal Hi Mark, Would you please share some of Darrell's information on the current business in the ET? Thank, Andy --- In Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Milbourne" <mark@...> wrote:
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30this morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Pete Thorn
I'm pissed about what's happening, NS is finally recognizing the value of
the mom & pop businesses. I've gone on and on about potential for rail served businesses in Elizabethton, and no excuse not to have them from what I see regularly on the ground with new biz. popping up in old facilties, not counting plastics, ethanol, etc.. is booming. This is the worst time for us to lose the rails and ties, rail banking is bullhockey, its gone forever now ggrrrrr #$%#$^%$%&. Between closed door commission meetings, no help for transitioning farmers out of tobacco & the railroad being torn up, one can only conclude that the powers that be want the native inhabitants to go away. Want kind of jobs is the trail going to produce???? minimum wage t-shirt shacks??? On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Ken Riddle <keriddle@yatesind.com> wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Ken Riddle
They could about use one crew full time at the scrapyard. It has really
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boomed. Omnisource bought the land from the CC&O and have built a great big transloader over there. The acid business is leaving thanks to Exide in Bristol closing. I was over there a few Mondays back and they had 53 loads in one day. That is 1965 numbers! For years in the old days they had two yard crews five days a week and one on Saturday. That ended in the fifties. When I was little and stayed with Uncle Willie on Maple Street it was not unusual for them to make two trips to Elizabethton on Monday. The last trip would come back after dark. The crew did not go on duty til 10am, after the Clinchfield set out to them. They would gather in the Clinchfield set out from that morning, grab what the Southern set out the night before and make up an eastbound to Elizabethton, and switch what they had in Johnson City. They would build two set out cuts, one for the CC&O and one for the Southern. They took the eastbound stuff to Cowtown and work it out there in front of the plants. Sometimes they would work something in to the plants right then (with the pot) if they were in a hurry for it, but most of the time they worked the rest of Elizabethton before coming back to work the plants. They would get water before they worked the plants. The pot would be spotted up and the big engine cut off. Usually they worked the tipple at the powerhouse first, while the pot had plenty of steam. Empties came out and loaded hoppers went in. There were tracks into Bemberg back then and it was running as well as the new buildings. They would set out the empties outbound then work the chemicals into the plant. After all that was delivered they gathered up the empty tank cars and boxcars, coupled it to the outbound rayon boxcars, tacked it on the empty hoppers and that made up the westbound train. They would get off the pot and the NARC guys would take it back to the powerhouse. They would get the big engine hot and blot out the sun with all the smoke. Brownie would ALWAYS oil around while Mr. Vest or Mr. Dowdy got her hot. Then the show began. Lots of times they had thirty cars or so which was all they could drag over Buffalo. They would get across the road and when they got on the main line they would give her HELL out the west end of Elizabethton, many times passing Sycamore Shoals at better than 40 mph. I know Mr, Hobbs is rolling over in the ground as they take up that good big track out there. When they got back to Johnson City they would break down the Elizabethton outbounds to Southern and Clinchfield, and the last thing they did that day was to take the two cuts and set out to both railroads. Sometimes the Southern would already have set in to them by that time and, if so, they left the cut down at the end of the railroad and the ET brought it back up to the shop area. If they had not, the Southern would shove it up there after the ET boys went off duty. Ken From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Milbourne Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:19 PM To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Tweetsie] Re: Update on Rail Removal Well, I don't remember the exact details offhand. But they're moving a LOT of cars each month. Lot of traffic with JC Chemical; salt is being trucked in and loaded on cars to go to Florida (can't remember what for). Omnisource now has a big scrap operation adjacent to the rail yard; if I understood him correctly, they actually bought that property from the RR. Those were the main things that he mentioned in the course of the conversation. Sorry I didn't capture all of the exact details.
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From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:13 AM To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: Update on Rail Removal Hi Mark, Would you please share some of Darrell's information on the current business in the ET? Thank, Andy --- In Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mark Milbourne" <mark@...> wrote:
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30this morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near[mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of potter1954------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
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Rae Augenstein
I was in Elizabethton today and snapped a couple photos of the rail
removal, which you can find at http://cosmicrae.posterous.com/etwnc-tweetsie-rail-removal-in-elizabethton There are two photos in the post, switch between them with the small arrows above the photo in the post. There were four men working on the removal. They're working in the area behind Grindstaff today. - Rae Augenstein
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David Pressley
Have they started removing crossties too or will that come later?
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Rae Augenstein
Looked to me like they were only taking up rail. I went out G Street today,
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wasn't on Elk Ave so I don't know what's happening around the old box factory. Downtown hasn't been touched yet except for the crossings that were removed months ago. - Rae ~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, David Pressley <notelvis2@yahoo.com>wrote:
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Pete Thorn
This discussion is morbid to me; not only are the rails leaving, but any
chance for a MUCH needed rail-served economy in Elizabethton. This is even more evidence that City/County leaders expect the entire native population of blue collar workers to die and bury themselves or just disappear. The reality is that segement of the population is in despair and nobody in authority cares! Pete Thorn, partner, Carter County Land & Home LLC, On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Rae Augenstein <GetGlowing@gmail.com>wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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potter1954
"This is even
more evidence that City/County leaders expect the entire native population Which was my point exactly, all along. Avery County has put all their resources into a seasonal/tourist based economy. With little snow this winter, shops are being closed daily because no one is skiing. The jobs that everyone attributes to golf and skiing are minimum wage anyway, there are no careers up here. Our young people have left in droves. The school bus that runs by our house had 30 kids on it in the 70's. Now there are 4 American kids, 8 Mexican kids on it. The big industry in most of NC right now is what I call "selling the farm". When there are no jobs, the only thing left to do is sellout. After that you're on your own, and with things as they are now, well, good luck. The American middle class has been sold out and what is happening in Elizabethton just brings it home in a sickening way. --- In Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com, Pete Thorn <pdthorn@...> wrote:
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