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Re: Electricity comes to Linville on the On30 ET&WNC RR

William Uffelman
 

New layout is coming along nicely and looks great!

Bill Uffelman


On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:14 PM, Tom Grabenstein
<tomgmd@...> wrote:
                                                                                Juice for Linville

While not as glamorous as the number two spot working its way to the Linville interchange with a load of logs, electrical wiring is  extremely important on a model railroad.

With a foam sub roadbed on a shelf, there is very little depth to hide the jungle of wires so common in Model Rail Roads. The side profile is quite thin, at best 2 inches.


Working with the foam means the lightweight mountains, hillocks and hills can easily be removed.

The whole layout can then be turned up on its side to do the dirty, non glamorous work of electrical wiring.

The inexpensive “router” attachment for the hard working Dremel tool is used to cut grooves in the underside to a depth of a 1/2”.

Next the wiring is pushed in to the groove and secured using dabs of hot glue. “ Suit case” connectors make easy work of splicing in to the wires in the grooves.

After labelling the connectors that will go to the electronics box below the shelving the layout is brought back to place on the wire shelving and it is on to the more glamorous work of building the Linville LDE for the On30 East Tennessee and Western RR.

Thanks for looking. Hope this mini tutorial wasn’t too boring.Doc Tom

Electricity comes to Linville on the On30 ET&WNC RR

Tom Grabenstein
 

                                                                                Juice for Linville

While not as glamorous as the number two spot working its way to the Linville interchange with a load of logs, electrical wiring is  extremely important on a model railroad.

With a foam sub roadbed on a shelf, there is very little depth to hide the jungle of wires so common in Model Rail Roads. The side profile is quite thin, at best 2 inches.


Working with the foam means the lightweight mountains, hillocks and hills can easily be removed.

The whole layout can then be turned up on its side to do the dirty, non glamorous work of electrical wiring.

The inexpensive “router” attachment for the hard working Dremel tool is used to cut grooves in the underside to a depth of a 1/2”.

Next the wiring is pushed in to the groove and secured using dabs of hot glue. “ Suit case” connectors make easy work of splicing in to the wires in the grooves.

After labelling the connectors that will go to the electronics box below the shelving the layout is brought back to place on the wire shelving and it is on to the more glamorous work of building the Linville LDE for the On30 East Tennessee and Western RR.

Thanks for looking. Hope this mini tutorial wasn’t too boring.Doc Tom

Re: On30 for sale - update

Jim King
 

The ET long hopper and Ethyl’s gas station have been sold.  Contact me off list re: purchasing the other items.

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 


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Jim King
http://smokymountainmodelworks.com

William Preston Miller, ET&WNC Conductor

Chris Ford
 

Hi Don, thanks for searching us out. While the Historical Society does not have records per se, we do have a vast collective knowledge amongst our hundreds of Society members and ET&WNC followers. I'm copying this email to our ETWNC email group (etwnc@groups.io) to see if someone in this group knows of Mr. Miller and his reported service on the ET&WNC.

To answer your question about the years of the railroad and when Mr. Miller would have worked as conductor....in 1882 the railroad was finished from Johnson City to the iron mine in Cranberry, NC. It later ran all the way to Boone, NC. The ET&WNC to Cranberry ran as a narrow gauge railroad until 1950. So Mr. Miller, according to his obituary, could have worked on the ET from 1884 to 1900.

We'll see if anyone in the group has any further knowledge of Mr. Miller that they can share.

I'll pass along any responses that I receive.

Thanks...and thanks to any of you who have any information to help Mr. Range in his research.

Have a good weekend!




Chris

 
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President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
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Subject: William Preston Miller, ET&WNC Conductor
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 13:07:31 -0800
From: Donald Range <deranger2@...>
To: chris@...

 

Mr. Ford:

I'm writing a family history book that includes mention of William Preston Miller (1845-1900). His obituary, which I have attached, states he was a conductor of the East Tennessee & Western North Carolina RR for 16 years. The obituary of his son Samuel Ernest Miller (1873-1945) (also attached) states that William Preston Miller was the first conductor of the railroad. But when I examine the census records for William Preston Miller there is no mention of his connection with the railroad. He is listed as a Washington Co. farmer in the census records of 1870, 1880, and 1900 (no 1890 census survives). I'm contacting you to ask if the records of the ET&WNCRR Historical Society might have any information to confirm that Miller was associated with the railroad. I see from the railroad history posted on the Society's website that it reached Johnson City in 1882 then declined in the 1880s and 1890s. Would that have been the period when Miller was conductor if his obituary is correct?

Thank you for any insights you can provide.

Don Range
Palos Verdes Estates, California

On30 for sale

Jim King
 

Recent, unplanned discussions regarding our inevitable downsizing to a smaller house has caused me to begin the process of thinning my collection.  I didn’t expect to be considering this for several more years but “time flies”.  I have the following On30 items priced low to move them.  All were purchased just before this discussion began a couple weeks ago.  Prices do not include postage to your location.  Will ship worldwide.

 

(2) ET&WNC Bachmann 4-6-0, black, unlettered, DCC equipped.  Never run.  $110 each

(1) ET&WNC hopper laser kit (short body), no trucks/couplers/decals.  $28

(1) ET&WNC hopper laser kit (long body), no trucks/couplers/decals.  $30

(5) Bachmann arch bar trucks #29901.  $14/pair

(1) Woodland Scenics “Ethyls Gas Station”, prebuilt, ready to “plant” on your layout.  $105 (retail is $149).

 

Contact me off-list concerning these items.  Thank you.

 

Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/

 


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Jim King
http://smokymountainmodelworks.com

Re: Correcting/improving Bachmann On30 locomotives for the ET&WNC

Mark Lewis
 

Lee:

Thank you for the effort on this project and punch set info.

Your finished products look great!

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 1:00 AM Lee Bishop <leebishop1944@...> wrote:
I'm thinking of maybe submitting an article to the group magazine on basic easy improvements for the Bachmann ten-wheelers, but I thought I'd share this all with you.
I created sets of scale builder plates, each with the right serial numbers and dates for 9, 11, 12, and 14.
I also used photos of the real number plates to make scale versions of them.
Bachmann did a great job on most of the engines but they always do their plates are opposite images of what they should be (black lettering on bronze which of course is opposite of how they looked in real life).
I converted a #12 to 9, rather easily, but the number plate had my stymied until I managed to find a good photo of the real one, then I added a light color background to the number as period photos (and movie film) of #9 during WW2 clearly show it wasn't red like 11 and 12's were.
So, you just print these on photo paper, 4X6 and they should be scaled right. I also included some 'no trespassing ET&WNC" signs as well and some period RR crossing signs I used on my own layout:
Click here for the images of the plates
I then punched them out using a "Maxi Punch Set" stock #473660 from Hobby Lobby. It's largest die was EXACTLY the right size needed for the front number plate.
From there, once you have it punched right (you'll need t punch a couple to get the right position), I suggest running a dark yellow marker around the edges so it doesn't look like a paper disk when viewed from the side. I then glued them to the existing number plates using white glue.
The finished product, I think, doesn't look bad. I did the builder plates much earlier and did them with an exacto knife, which is why I had to use a punch for the number plates.
With this, I think you can improve the look at the front end of these, as well as making a #9 if you want one (Woodland Scenic dry transfers makes a set that is a perfect match for the cab and dome numbers)...
If you try it, let me know how it worked out!
Lee Bishop
Stoney Creek branch, ET&WNC RR

Correcting/improving Bachmann On30 locomotives for the ET&WNC

Lee Bishop
 

I'm thinking of maybe submitting an article to the group magazine on basic easy improvements for the Bachmann ten-wheelers, but I thought I'd share this all with you.
I created sets of scale builder plates, each with the right serial numbers and dates for 9, 11, 12, and 14.
I also used photos of the real number plates to make scale versions of them.
Bachmann did a great job on most of the engines but they always do their plates are opposite images of what they should be (black lettering on bronze which of course is opposite of how they looked in real life).
I converted a #12 to 9, rather easily, but the number plate had my stymied until I managed to find a good photo of the real one, then I added a light color background to the number as period photos (and movie film) of #9 during WW2 clearly show it wasn't red like 11 and 12's were.
So, you just print these on photo paper, 4X6 and they should be scaled right. I also included some 'no trespassing ET&WNC" signs as well and some period RR crossing signs I used on my own layout:
Click here for the images of the plates
I then punched them out using a "Maxi Punch Set" stock #473660 from Hobby Lobby. It's largest die was EXACTLY the right size needed for the front number plate.
From there, once you have it punched right (you'll need t punch a couple to get the right position), I suggest running a dark yellow marker around the edges so it doesn't look like a paper disk when viewed from the side. I then glued them to the existing number plates using white glue.
The finished product, I think, doesn't look bad. I did the builder plates much earlier and did them with an exacto knife, which is why I had to use a punch for the number plates.
With this, I think you can improve the look at the front end of these, as well as making a #9 if you want one (Woodland Scenic dry transfers makes a set that is a perfect match for the cab and dome numbers)...
If you try it, let me know how it worked out!
Lee Bishop
Stoney Creek branch, ET&WNC RR

Re: Evolution at Linville

Tom Grabenstein
 

Thanks everyone for the (+) feedback. I really appreciate it.  Doc Tom


On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 8:18 PM Thunder via Groups.Io <t_pearson1212=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Looking good! I love how you do the mock ups. 


On Nov 2, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Chris Bryant <chris.bryant@...> wrote:

Nice scenery work, the layout looks great!

Chris Bryant
Hendersonville TN


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From: tomgmd@...
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Sent: 2019-11-02 1:55:40 PM
Subject: [ETWNC] Evolution at Linville

Evolution at Linville

The transformation from blue foam to colourful topography is underway on the layout design element at Linville on the On30 ET& WNC RR.









Low lying shrubs and grasses have been planted on the hillsides in anticipation of “O” scale trees in full summer growth to come in the future.





Homabed roadbed has been placed in preparation for track laying. So, we have gone from track plans to getting the foundation down for the modeled track work.







I also did the trim of the layout in an olive green color that I think matches the color of the railroad coaches on the 1920 prototype. I would appreciate comments on what Color was actually used by the ET&WNC railroad in 1920 to paint their beautiful varnish.







Thanks for looking.



Doc Tom



Re: Evolution at Linville

 

Looking good! I love how you do the mock ups. 


On Nov 2, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Chris Bryant <chris.bryant@...> wrote:

Nice scenery work, the layout looks great!

Chris Bryant
Hendersonville TN


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-----Original Message-----

From: tomgmd@...
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Sent: 2019-11-02 1:55:40 PM
Subject: [ETWNC] Evolution at Linville

Evolution at Linville

The transformation from blue foam to colourful topography is underway on the layout design element at Linville on the On30 ET& WNC RR.









Low lying shrubs and grasses have been planted on the hillsides in anticipation of “O” scale trees in full summer growth to come in the future.





Homabed roadbed has been placed in preparation for track laying. So, we have gone from track plans to getting the foundation down for the modeled track work.







I also did the trim of the layout in an olive green color that I think matches the color of the railroad coaches on the 1920 prototype. I would appreciate comments on what Color was actually used by the ET&WNC railroad in 1920 to paint their beautiful varnish.







Thanks for looking.



Doc Tom



Re: Evolution at Linville

Chris Bryant
 

Nice scenery work, the layout looks great!

Chris Bryant
Hendersonville TN


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-----Original Message-----

From: tomgmd@...
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Sent: 2019-11-02 1:55:40 PM
Subject: [ETWNC] Evolution at Linville

Evolution at Linville

The transformation from blue foam to colourful topography is underway on the layout design element at Linville on the On30 ET& WNC RR.









Low lying shrubs and grasses have been planted on the hillsides in anticipation of “O” scale trees in full summer growth to come in the future.





Homabed roadbed has been placed in preparation for track laying. So, we have gone from track plans to getting the foundation down for the modeled track work.







I also did the trim of the layout in an olive green color that I think matches the color of the railroad coaches on the 1920 prototype. I would appreciate comments on what Color was actually used by the ET&WNC railroad in 1920 to paint their beautiful varnish.







Thanks for looking.



Doc Tom



Re: Evolution at Linville

William Uffelman
 


Very impressive - just what the layout "doctor" ordered!

Thanks for sharing.

Bill Uffelman

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 2:55 PM, Tom Grabenstein
<tomgmd@...> wrote:
Evolution at Linville

The transformation from blue foam to colourful topography is underway on the layout design element at Linville on the On30 ET& WNC RR.









Low lying shrubs and grasses have been planted on the hillsides in anticipation of “O” scale trees in full summer growth to come in the future.





Homabed roadbed has been placed in preparation for track laying. So, we have gone from track plans to getting the foundation down for the modeled track work.







I also did the trim of the layout in an olive green color that I think matches the color of the railroad coaches on the 1920 prototype. I would appreciate comments on what Color was actually used by the ET&WNC railroad in 1920 to paint their beautiful varnish.







Thanks for looking.



Doc Tom

Re: Evolution at Linville

Mark Lewis
 

Doctor Tom:

Another great update on your ET&WNC On30 layout.
Your scenery work is spot on.

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, 2:55 PM Tom Grabenstein <tomgmd@...> wrote:
Evolution at Linville

The transformation from blue foam to colourful topography is underway on the layout design element at Linville on the On30 ET& WNC RR.









Low lying shrubs and grasses have been planted on the hillsides in anticipation of “O” scale trees in full summer growth to come in the future.





Homabed roadbed has been placed in preparation for track laying. So, we have gone from track plans to getting the foundation down for the modeled track work.







I also did the trim of the layout in an olive green color that I think matches the color of the railroad coaches on the 1920 prototype. I would appreciate comments on what Color was actually used by the ET&WNC railroad in 1920 to paint their beautiful varnish.







Thanks for looking.



Doc Tom

Evolution at Linville

Tom Grabenstein
 

Evolution at Linville

The transformation from blue foam to colourful topography is underway on the layout design element at Linville on the On30 ET& WNC RR.









Low lying shrubs and grasses have been planted on the hillsides in anticipation of “O” scale trees in full summer growth to come in the future.





Homabed roadbed has been placed in preparation for track laying. So, we have gone from track plans to getting the foundation down for the modeled track work.







I also did the trim of the layout in an olive green color that I think matches the color of the railroad coaches on the 1920 prototype. I would appreciate comments on what Color was actually used by the ET&WNC railroad in 1920 to paint their beautiful varnish.







Thanks for looking.



Doc Tom

Re: Halloween on the ET&WNC in On30...

Mark Lewis
 

Lee:

Very appropriate!

Mark Lewis
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.


On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:48 PM Lee Bishop <leebishop1944@...> wrote:

I swore I saw the scale ghosts of Cy Crumley and Sherman Pippin in O scale last night. I snapped some shots, thinking when I looked later, they'd just be of empty track. Halloween came early for the Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC!

They just walked out of the cornfield at the Ensor farm, looked around, and Cy walked down the tracks to near the grade crossing at Sadie. Sherman went directly for # 11, which was sitting cold at the time. A chill came over the air...
As these two were gentlemen in life, I expected no evil from them now. I was told by the locals that I might get spectral letters of admonishment over some of the working conditions on the layout.

Re: Newest issue of Every Time With No Complaint

Lee Bishop
 

Got mine. You were right, GREAT issue!
I was hoping there might have been some mention of the hat badges the tracking company had, as I have one and was always wondering when they were worn and with what type of hat.
Also, my Dad swears that ET&WNC had a small airline at one point, but I didn't see anything. Is that correct?
Lee

Halloween on the ET&WNC in On30...

Lee Bishop
 

I swore I saw the scale ghosts of Cy Crumley and Sherman Pippin in O scale last night. I snapped some shots, thinking when I looked later, they'd just be of empty track. Halloween came early for the Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC!

They just walked out of the cornfield at the Ensor farm, looked around, and Cy walked down the tracks to near the grade crossing at Sadie. Sherman went directly for # 11, which was sitting cold at the time. A chill came over the air...
As these two were gentlemen in life, I expected no evil from them now. I was told by the locals that I might get spectral letters of admonishment over some of the working conditions on the layout.

Re: Newest issue of Every Time With No Complaint

Sheldon Daitch
 

My copy arrived Thursday of last week here in JAX area.

Sheldon

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, William Schneck <wschneck2@...> wrote:


I am in northern Virginia and have not yet received mine.

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 11:48 Lee Bishop <leebishop1944@...> wrote:
Odd, I still dont have mine yet, in the Pacific Northwest...
Lee

Re: Newest issue of Every Time With No Complaint

William Schneck
 

I am in northern Virginia and have not yet received mine.


On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 11:48 Lee Bishop <leebishop1944@...> wrote:
Odd, I still dont have mine yet, in the Pacific Northwest...
Lee

Re: Newest issue of Every Time With No Complaint

Mark Lewis
 

Lee:

It's worth the wait.....

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 11:48 AM Lee Bishop <leebishop1944@...> wrote:
Odd, I still dont have mine yet, in the Pacific Northwest...
Lee

Re: Newest issue of Every Time With No Complaint

Lee Bishop
 

Odd, I still dont have mine yet, in the Pacific Northwest...
Lee