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Re: 16th OCT in the Gorge

trainsnc@...
 

Do we know what time things will occur on Oct 16th? We will be coming from
Raleigh and will need a place to stay. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Karl Kleeman

Re: 16th OCT in the Gorge

Ken Riddle <ken290@...>
 

Hi Karl-

Sunday we will railroad from 1-5pm. Remember it is open house for the camp
and there is a lot to see there besides the railroad. Try to come Sunday,
too, if you can.

Monday we will have a little ceremony at 11am. It won't last very long.
That afternoon we will run a trip or two with Rachel.

There is a Comfort Inn in Elizabethton that is a nice place and close. That
may be Storytelling weekend in Jonesbourough so the Johnson City places
might be booked up.

Johnny is trying to get arrangements made with a hotel I think.
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: trainsnc@... [mailto:trainsnc@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 6:16 AM
To: Tweetsie@...
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] 16th OCT in the Gorge



Do we know what time things will occur on Oct 16th? We will be coming from
Raleigh and will need a place to stay. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Karl Kleeman

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Re: 16th OCT in the Gorge

Joley Ferguson <jomoferg@...>
 

Where is the Gorge? Is it towards Hampton from Elizabethton?

Thanks,
Joley Ferguson


--- In Tweetsie@..., "Ken Riddle" <ken290@h...> wrote:
Hi Karl-

Sunday we will railroad from 1-5pm. Remember it is open house for
the camp
and there is a lot to see there besides the railroad. Try to come
Sunday,
too, if you can.

Monday we will have a little ceremony at 11am. It won't last very
long.
That afternoon we will run a trip or two with Rachel.

There is a Comfort Inn in Elizabethton that is a nice place and
close. That
may be Storytelling weekend in Jonesbourough so the Johnson City
places
might be booked up.

Johnny is trying to get arrangements made with a hotel I think.
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: trainsnc@c... [mailto:trainsnc@c...]
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 6:16 AM
To: Tweetsie@...
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] 16th OCT in the Gorge



Do we know what time things will occur on Oct 16th? We will be
coming from
Raleigh and will need a place to stay. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Karl Kleeman

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Re: Rachel under steam

Walt Gay <waltrail@...>
 

What kind of cars are you going to pull?


Ken Riddle wrote:


Went up to Nashville this morning and spent the day with "Rachel", the 2-4-4
that Gaylord Entertainment is sending to Doe River Gorge for 18 months of
hard work. Here's a picture of her getting hot
http://208.170.111.38/rachelhot.jpg

Virgil King had spent a lot of time this week getting her ready and had
completed the hydro yesterday afternoon.

We fired her up, checked the injectors, tinkered with a couple of small
things but she is basically quite sound. She had a contrary pump lubricator
(the nature of a hydrostatic lubricator) and needs a set of packing on the
air end. But she steams up a storm on a lot less fuel than I had figured
(of course she wasn't doing much work).

The whistle has GOT TO GO!

For those of you who are into such things-

She pops at 150 and blows back 5 psi. Two Penberthy injectors, one 1" and
one 1 1/2", All Welded ASME boiler from 1974, saturated, dome throttle (new
in 1997), hand sanders, 9" air pump, 110psi main reservoir pressure.
Carries 150 gallons fuel oil, 850 gallons water (not enough for a round trip
to the double bridge in my estimation with any load at all). 30" driving
wheels, stephenson valve gear. Oil cellar crown brass boxes (no
greasecakes).

We will try to get her moved later this week. Come up and see her!

She will carry road number 2.
Ken Riddle

-----Original Message-----
From: Franklin West [mailto:mwest4@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 11:49 AM
To: tweetsie
Subject: [Tweetsie] 16th OCT in the Gorge

If taking a day and a half off work and driving seven hours one way from
Charleston, SC to the Gorge to be there on OCT 16th puts me in the
"Chosen Few", Im rather glad to be chosen!!mw

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Re: Rachel under steam

Ken Riddle <ken290@...>
 

Haven't got one right now, Walt!

We have a beautiful coach that was offered to us as a loan, but I don't want
to take tha chance that Rachel could not stop it. It is quite steep in the
gorge and while I am sure Rachel could pull it up the hill she is so spread
out with her 24 tons over five axles that I did not want to chance a sliding
wheel situation.

There are some D&RG flats there at the gorge. At least one of them, and
possibly two, will be reworked over the winter with new steel sills, new
wheels, and ABBW brakes.

In October we will have three motorcars with trailers in service to handle
passengers. I thought we would leave with Rachel on the hour starting at
1pm (Sunday). The motorcars will leave ahead of the steam locomotive and
let people out who might want to make pictures at the tunnels, retaining
wall, Pardee Point, ect. Rachel will leave after the motorcars are in the
hole at Pardee Point. The motorcars can return with the passengers who want
to go back down the hill and then, after they are in the clear at the camp,
Rachel can come back down the hill.

Sorry about no cars but I just am not comfortable with that big coach right
now.

Come on anyway--there is plenty of room on the tank and Rachel burns oil--no
cinders!
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Gay [mailto:waltrail@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 7:35 PM
To: Tweetsie@...
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Rachel under steam



What kind of cars are you going to pull?


Ken Riddle wrote:


Went up to Nashville this morning and spent the day with "Rachel", the
2-4-4
that Gaylord Entertainment is sending to Doe River Gorge for 18 months of
hard work. Here's a picture of her getting hot
http://208.170.111.38/rachelhot.jpg

Virgil King had spent a lot of time this week getting her ready and had
completed the hydro yesterday afternoon.

We fired her up, checked the injectors, tinkered with a couple of small
things but she is basically quite sound. She had a contrary pump
lubricator
(the nature of a hydrostatic lubricator) and needs a set of packing on the
air end. But she steams up a storm on a lot less fuel than I had figured
(of course she wasn't doing much work).

The whistle has GOT TO GO!

For those of you who are into such things-

She pops at 150 and blows back 5 psi. Two Penberthy injectors, one 1" and
one 1 1/2", All Welded ASME boiler from 1974, saturated, dome throttle
(new
in 1997), hand sanders, 9" air pump, 110psi main reservoir pressure.
Carries 150 gallons fuel oil, 850 gallons water (not enough for a round
trip
to the double bridge in my estimation with any load at all). 30" driving
wheels, stephenson valve gear. Oil cellar crown brass boxes (no
greasecakes).

We will try to get her moved later this week. Come up and see her!

She will carry road number 2.
Ken Riddle

-----Original Message-----
From: Franklin West [mailto:mwest4@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 11:49 AM
To: tweetsie
Subject: [Tweetsie] 16th OCT in the Gorge

If taking a day and a half off work and driving seven hours one way from
Charleston, SC to the Gorge to be there on OCT 16th puts me in the
"Chosen Few", Im rather glad to be chosen!!mw

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Re: Rachel under steam

Ken Riddle <ken290@...>
 

Yes, she has a 9" Westinghouse pump and it works well.

The coach was the EBT coach from Tweetsie. Chris Robbins was gracious
enough to offer it for us to use.
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Gay [mailto:waltrail@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 9:53 PM
To: Tweetsie@...
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Rachel under steam



I can understand that. Does Rachel have an air compressor for train brakes?
What is the heritage of the coach?
Thanks.

Walt

Ken Riddle wrote:


Haven't got one right now, Walt!

We have a beautiful coach that was offered to us as a loan, but I don't
want
to take tha chance that Rachel could not stop it. It is quite steep in
the
gorge and while I am sure Rachel could pull it up the hill she is so
spread
out with her 24 tons over five axles that I did not want to chance a
sliding
wheel situation.

There are some D&RG flats there at the gorge. At least one of them, and
possibly two, will be reworked over the winter with new steel sills, new
wheels, and ABBW brakes.

In October we will have three motorcars with trailers in service to handle
passengers. I thought we would leave with Rachel on the hour starting at
1pm (Sunday). The motorcars will leave ahead of the steam locomotive and
let people out who might want to make pictures at the tunnels, retaining
wall, Pardee Point, ect. Rachel will leave after the motorcars are in the
hole at Pardee Point. The motorcars can return with the passengers who
want
to go back down the hill and then, after they are in the clear at the
camp,
Rachel can come back down the hill.

Sorry about no cars but I just am not comfortable with that big coach
right
now.

Come on anyway--there is plenty of room on the tank and Rachel burns
oil--no
cinders!
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Gay [mailto:waltrail@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 7:35 PM
To: Tweetsie@...
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Rachel under steam

What kind of cars are you going to pull?

Ken Riddle wrote:


Went up to Nashville this morning and spent the day with "Rachel", the
2-4-4
that Gaylord Entertainment is sending to Doe River Gorge for 18 months
of
hard work. Here's a picture of her getting hot
http://208.170.111.38/rachelhot.jpg

Virgil King had spent a lot of time this week getting her ready and had
completed the hydro yesterday afternoon.

We fired her up, checked the injectors, tinkered with a couple of small
things but she is basically quite sound. She had a contrary pump
lubricator
(the nature of a hydrostatic lubricator) and needs a set of packing on
the
air end. But she steams up a storm on a lot less fuel than I had
figured
(of course she wasn't doing much work).

The whistle has GOT TO GO!

For those of you who are into such things-

She pops at 150 and blows back 5 psi. Two Penberthy injectors, one 1"
and
one 1 1/2", All Welded ASME boiler from 1974, saturated, dome throttle
(new
in 1997), hand sanders, 9" air pump, 110psi main reservoir pressure.
Carries 150 gallons fuel oil, 850 gallons water (not enough for a round
trip
to the double bridge in my estimation with any load at all). 30"
driving
wheels, stephenson valve gear. Oil cellar crown brass boxes (no
greasecakes).

We will try to get her moved later this week. Come up and see her!

She will carry road number 2.
Ken Riddle

-----Original Message-----
From: Franklin West [mailto:mwest4@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 11:49 AM
To: tweetsie
Subject: [Tweetsie] 16th OCT in the Gorge

If taking a day and a half off work and driving seven hours one way from
Charleston, SC to the Gorge to be there on OCT 16th puts me in the
"Chosen Few", Im rather glad to be chosen!!mw

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Re: Rachel under steam

Walt Gay <waltrail@...>
 

I can understand that. Does Rachel have an air compressor for train brakes? What is the heritage of the coach?
Thanks.

Walt

Ken Riddle wrote:


Haven't got one right now, Walt!

We have a beautiful coach that was offered to us as a loan, but I don't want
to take tha chance that Rachel could not stop it. It is quite steep in the
gorge and while I am sure Rachel could pull it up the hill she is so spread
out with her 24 tons over five axles that I did not want to chance a sliding
wheel situation.

There are some D&RG flats there at the gorge. At least one of them, and
possibly two, will be reworked over the winter with new steel sills, new
wheels, and ABBW brakes.

In October we will have three motorcars with trailers in service to handle
passengers. I thought we would leave with Rachel on the hour starting at
1pm (Sunday). The motorcars will leave ahead of the steam locomotive and
let people out who might want to make pictures at the tunnels, retaining
wall, Pardee Point, ect. Rachel will leave after the motorcars are in the
hole at Pardee Point. The motorcars can return with the passengers who want
to go back down the hill and then, after they are in the clear at the camp,
Rachel can come back down the hill.

Sorry about no cars but I just am not comfortable with that big coach right
now.

Come on anyway--there is plenty of room on the tank and Rachel burns oil--no
cinders!
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Gay [mailto:waltrail@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 7:35 PM
To: Tweetsie@...
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Rachel under steam

What kind of cars are you going to pull?

Ken Riddle wrote:


Went up to Nashville this morning and spent the day with "Rachel", the
2-4-4
that Gaylord Entertainment is sending to Doe River Gorge for 18 months of
hard work. Here's a picture of her getting hot
http://208.170.111.38/rachelhot.jpg

Virgil King had spent a lot of time this week getting her ready and had
completed the hydro yesterday afternoon.

We fired her up, checked the injectors, tinkered with a couple of small
things but she is basically quite sound. She had a contrary pump
lubricator
(the nature of a hydrostatic lubricator) and needs a set of packing on the
air end. But she steams up a storm on a lot less fuel than I had figured
(of course she wasn't doing much work).

The whistle has GOT TO GO!

For those of you who are into such things-

She pops at 150 and blows back 5 psi. Two Penberthy injectors, one 1" and
one 1 1/2", All Welded ASME boiler from 1974, saturated, dome throttle
(new
in 1997), hand sanders, 9" air pump, 110psi main reservoir pressure.
Carries 150 gallons fuel oil, 850 gallons water (not enough for a round
trip
to the double bridge in my estimation with any load at all). 30" driving
wheels, stephenson valve gear. Oil cellar crown brass boxes (no
greasecakes).

We will try to get her moved later this week. Come up and see her!

She will carry road number 2.
Ken Riddle

-----Original Message-----
From: Franklin West [mailto:mwest4@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 11:49 AM
To: tweetsie
Subject: [Tweetsie] 16th OCT in the Gorge

If taking a day and a half off work and driving seven hours one way from
Charleston, SC to the Gorge to be there on OCT 16th puts me in the
"Chosen Few", Im rather glad to be chosen!!mw

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Cranberry tank color

Walt Gay <waltrail@...>
 

Gize,

Nice article in the Stemwinder on the Cranberry tank. Anybody know what
color it was?
Thanks.


Walt

Re: Cranberry tank color

Philip Snyder <psnyder@...>
 

Nice article in the Stemwinder on the Cranberry tank. Anybody know
what
color it was?
Thanks.


Walt
Funny you should ask, Walt!!!

Hey Scoggins....is this the next war you mentioned? hehehe

I say black (due to ALL of the color film that shows the tank), but
everybody else says green 'cause they don't trust their own eyes! ;)
Somewhere, somebody got some record that suggests that at some point the
railroad painted EVERYTHING green.....and maybe they did, BUT the 1940-41
and 1942-43 films clearly show that the tank was black. Mine is black and
it looks great. "I see a green tank and I want to paint it blaaaack..."

Paint it whatever color you want, my friend.

Philip

DRG question - offer of help

Glenn Christensen <christenseng@...>
 

Hi Ken,

First, please let me introduce myself. My name is Glenn Christensen. I write the regular railway preservation column "Backshop", in Maine Two Foot Quarterly magazine. M2FQ is a sister publication to "Light Iron Digest".

Although my primary interest is in the Maine Two Footers, I have visited Tweetsie Country a number of times and have been a member of the ET&WNC RR Hist. Soc. for many years.

Part of my "behind the scenes" activities have been to assist some of the two-foot organizations with marketing and business-related consultation advice.
I do this gratis.

It occurs to me that such assistance might be of use to the DRG folks. Between the lines, I get the distinct feeling that the folks at the Christian Camp realize they could use their RR assets to help generate revenue for their primary mission. I agree. Please let me know if I can be of assistance to them.


Best Regards,
Glenn Christensen


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Re: Cranberry tank color

Walt Gay <waltrail@...>
 

Philip,

Thanks, it looks pretty dark! I'm not actually modeling that specific
tank so I will paint mine a different color!<G>

Walt

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Snyder <psnyder@...>
To: <Tweetsie@...>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Cranberry tank color




Nice article in the Stemwinder on the Cranberry tank. Anybody know
what
color it was?
Thanks.


Walt
Funny you should ask, Walt!!!

Hey Scoggins....is this the next war you mentioned? hehehe

I say black (due to ALL of the color film that shows the tank), but
everybody else says green 'cause they don't trust their own eyes! ;)
Somewhere, somebody got some record that suggests that at some point the
railroad painted EVERYTHING green.....and maybe they did, BUT the 1940-41
and 1942-43 films clearly show that the tank was black. Mine is black and
it looks great. "I see a green tank and I want to paint it blaaaack..."

Paint it whatever color you want, my friend.

Philip


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Re: Cranberry tank color

Fred Waskiewicz <waskiewf@...>
 

--- Philip Snyder <psnyder@...> wrote:


"I see a green tank and I want to paint it
blaaaack..."
So, Philip, how many aging Rolling Stones fans caught this remark?

Fred

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Re: Cranberry tank color

Fred Voelcker <fred1945@...>
 

I did, immediately!!

Phread

Fred Waskiewicz wrote:


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--- Philip Snyder <psnyder@...> wrote:


"I see a green tank and I want to paint it
blaaaack..."
So, Philip, how many aging Rolling Stones fans caught this remark?

Fred

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Re: Cranberry tank color

Philip Snyder <psnyder@...>
 

Well.....only one so far!

Philip

--- Philip Snyder <psnyder@...> wrote:


"I see a green tank and I want to paint it
blaaaack..."
So, Philip, how many aging Rolling Stones fans caught this remark?

Fred

Re: Cranberry tank color

Philip Snyder <psnyder@...>
 

Okay....two.

I did, immediately!!

Phread

Re: Cranberry tank color

JEF112@...
 

Think it was "I see a red door and want to paint it black" J E
Fisher

[whitepassfanlist] USA 10-14 dates

Robert Bell <feequine@...>
 

Hey all,

I got this on my other list, anybody got any ideas??

Rob Bell

Subject: [whitepassfanlist] USA 10-14 dates
---------------------------------------------------------------------_->

Does someone have the dates for locomotives 10 and 14 leaving ET&WNC and
arriving in Skagway?

Was a coupler height conversion needed?

I'm working on a photo section on these 2 locomotives and would like to
include those dates.

Thanks,

Bruce Pryor
White Pass & Yukon Pictures
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Re: Cranberry tank color

Richard Barnes <richard.barnes3@...>
 

Add one more member of ancient history!
Richard Barnes

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Snyder" <psnyder@...>
To: <Tweetsie@...>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Cranberry tank color



Well.....only one so far!

Philip

--- Philip Snyder <psnyder@...> wrote:


"I see a green tank and I want to paint it
blaaaack..."
So, Philip, how many aging Rolling Stones fans caught this remark?

Fred


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Re: [whitepassfanlist] USA 10-14 dates

Robert L. Harris <rlhjr@...>
 

In the May 1943 Railroad Magazine's Along The Iron Pike by Joe Easley feature is a sketch of three flat cars; #10
is on the first flat car, then two tenders, then another unnumbered ten wheeler on the final flat.. The caption says
"Off to fight the Axis: Two narrow-gauge engines and other equipment from the East Tennessee & Western North
Carolina RR were seen leaving Johnson City Tenn., by rail, presumable bound for a foreign port or an army camp in
America". Then there is the notation "(From Ross R Campbell, former ET&WNC telegrapher, Hampton, Tenn.).

While this does not answer the question I thought it may be of interest.

rlh
--
Robert L. Harris
rlhjr@...

Robert Bell wrote:

Does someone have the dates for locomotives 10 and 14 leaving ET&WNC and
arriving in Skagway?