From: "Curtis Brookshire" <curtis.brookshire@gte.net>

I'd like to get the "correct" trucks, but if I'm the only one, I'll take
what comes in the kit.

Curtis
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim King <jking@ioa.com>
To: On3 Group <on3@onelist.com>; HOn3 mail list <hon3@creativecorp.com>;
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Cc: Caylor, Bill <Caylor@Bellsouth.net>; Chris & Dina Cardinal
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Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 10:42 AM
Subject: [Tweetsie] New trucks

From: Jim King <jking@ioa.com>

Hi all,

I'm shopping for your interests again. After Phread's wonderful job of
coordinating my proposed ET pig flat and trailer, it's my turn!

I've had much discussion with modelers in the ET&WNC HS about having
correct trucks for their HOn3 rolling stock. Dave Hoffman offers top
quality investment cast brass trucks with NWSL wheels but some folks
find them difficult to work with and/or too expensive to outfit their
fleet of cars.

Currently, the best alternative is to use Grandt Line's D&RGW 4'8" wb
Delrin trucks ... they run fine and have the correct wheelbase but the
side profile is wrong. I include them in my kits because they are
economical, good quality and 'get you running' without any assembly.
The theory is that they can always be replaced later with Dave's brass
trucks.

With that said, I've also been talking with a seasoned spin caster who
has 4 or 5 truck kits on the market, 1 in O 2-rail, the rest in HO and
HOn3. I'll be visiting him next Thursday to discuss many topics,
including trucks. I want to pursue having correct HOn3 and On3 Simplex
and McCord trucks produced in 'white metal', for lack of a better term.
The trucks will consist of 3 pieces ... 2 sideframes and 1 bolster ...
plus metal wheelsets (source to be determined ... maybe Grandt or
NWSL). The truck frame will be ACC'd together ... no screws.
Equalization might be a problem using this method but I'll have to see
for myself. I don't know what price they'll be but I expect in the $6
-$7.00/pr range.

Assuming I proceed with this project (patterns and tooling are made),
how many of you are interested in getting 'correct' truck kits at a more
affordable price? They would be included in my kits and available
separately.

Please respond at your convenience. This is not a project that I'll
complete next month, but once it starts, it'll go FAST!

Thanks in advance for your input.

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works


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From: Jim King <jking@ioa.com>

Hi all,

I'm shopping for your interests again. After Phread's wonderful job of
coordinating my proposed ET pig flat and trailer, it's my turn!

I've had much discussion with modelers in the ET&WNC HS about having
correct trucks for their HOn3 rolling stock. Dave Hoffman offers top
quality investment cast brass trucks with NWSL wheels but some folks
find them difficult to work with and/or too expensive to outfit their
fleet of cars.

Currently, the best alternative is to use Grandt Line's D&RGW 4'8" wb
Delrin trucks ... they run fine and have the correct wheelbase but the
side profile is wrong. I include them in my kits because they are
economical, good quality and 'get you running' without any assembly.
The theory is that they can always be replaced later with Dave's brass
trucks.

With that said, I've also been talking with a seasoned spin caster who
has 4 or 5 truck kits on the market, 1 in O 2-rail, the rest in HO and
HOn3. I'll be visiting him next Thursday to discuss many topics,
including trucks. I want to pursue having correct HOn3 and On3 Simplex
and McCord trucks produced in 'white metal', for lack of a better term.
The trucks will consist of 3 pieces ... 2 sideframes and 1 bolster ...
plus metal wheelsets (source to be determined ... maybe Grandt or
NWSL). The truck frame will be ACC'd together ... no screws.
Equalization might be a problem using this method but I'll have to see
for myself. I don't know what price they'll be but I expect in the $6
-$7.00/pr range.

Assuming I proceed with this project (patterns and tooling are made),
how many of you are interested in getting 'correct' truck kits at a more
affordable price? They would be included in my kits and available
separately.

Please respond at your convenience. This is not a project that I'll
complete next month, but once it starts, it'll go FAST!

Thanks in advance for your input.

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works


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From: Rick Blanchard <bdesign@sd.znet.com>

All,

While you're at it why don't you ask about EBT Vulcan trucks also. I'd be
very interested in a couple of dozen pairs of those.

Is there a source for drawings of all of these different trucks? If it was
in the Stemwinder could I get a copy of the issue/article?

Thanks,
Rick

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Rick Blanchard
rick@urbaneagle.com
San Diego, CA

My East Tennessee and Western North Carolina web site:
http://www.urbaneagle.com/slim/etwnc.html

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From: larry smith <wooddale@bellsouth.net>

Jim

While you're at it why don't you ask about EBT Vulcan trucks also. I'd be
very interested in a couple of dozen pairs of those.

Larry Smith

Jim King wrote:

From: Jim King <jking@ioa.com>

Hi all,

I'm shopping for your interests again. After Phread's wonderful job of
coordinating my proposed ET pig flat and trailer, it's my turn!

I've had much discussion with modelers in the ET&WNC HS about having
correct trucks for their HOn3 rolling stock. Dave Hoffman offers top
quality investment cast brass trucks with NWSL wheels but some folks
find them difficult to work with and/or too expensive to outfit their
fleet of cars.

Currently, the best alternative is to use Grandt Line's D&RGW 4'8" wb
Delrin trucks ... they run fine and have the correct wheelbase but the
side profile is wrong. I include them in my kits because they are
economical, good quality and 'get you running' without any assembly.
The theory is that they can always be replaced later with Dave's brass
trucks.

With that said, I've also been talking with a seasoned spin caster who
has 4 or 5 truck kits on the market, 1 in O 2-rail, the rest in HO and
HOn3. I'll be visiting him next Thursday to discuss many topics,
including trucks. I want to pursue having correct HOn3 and On3 Simplex
and McCord trucks produced in 'white metal', for lack of a better term.
The trucks will consist of 3 pieces ... 2 sideframes and 1 bolster ...
plus metal wheelsets (source to be determined ... maybe Grandt or
NWSL). The truck frame will be ACC'd together ... no screws.
Equalization might be a problem using this method but I'll have to see
for myself. I don't know what price they'll be but I expect in the $6
-$7.00/pr range.

Assuming I proceed with this project (patterns and tooling are made),
how many of you are interested in getting 'correct' truck kits at a more
affordable price? They would be included in my kits and available
separately.

Please respond at your convenience. This is not a project that I'll
complete next month, but once it starts, it'll go FAST!

Thanks in advance for your input.

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works

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From: Jim King <jking@ioa.com>

Hi all,

I'm shopping for your interests again. After Phread's wonderful job of
coordinating my proposed ET pig flat and trailer, it's my turn!

I've had much discussion with modelers in the ET&WNC HS about having
correct trucks for their HOn3 rolling stock. Dave Hoffman offers top
quality investment cast brass trucks with NWSL wheels but some folks
find them difficult to work with and/or too expensive to outfit their
fleet of cars.

Currently, the best alternative is to use Grandt Line's D&RGW 4'8" wb
Delrin trucks ... they run fine and have the correct wheelbase but the
side profile is wrong. I include them in my kits because they are
economical, good quality and 'get you running' without any assembly.
The theory is that they can always be replaced later with Dave's brass
trucks.

With that said, I've also been talking with a seasoned spin caster who
has 4 or 5 truck kits on the market, 1 in O 2-rail, the rest in HO and
HOn3. I'll be visiting him next Thursday to discuss many topics,
including trucks. I want to pursue having correct HOn3 and On3 Simplex
and McCord trucks produced in 'white metal', for lack of a better term.
The trucks will consist of 3 pieces ... 2 sideframes and 1 bolster ...
plus metal wheelsets (source to be determined ... maybe Grandt or
NWSL). The truck frame will be ACC'd together ... no screws.
Equalization might be a problem using this method but I'll have to see
for myself. I don't know what price they'll be but I expect in the $6
-$7.00/pr range.

Assuming I proceed with this project (patterns and tooling are made),
how many of you are interested in getting 'correct' truck kits at a more
affordable price? They would be included in my kits and available
separately.

Please respond at your convenience. This is not a project that I'll
complete next month, but once it starts, it'll go FAST!

Thanks in advance for your input.

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works

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From: Jim King <jking@ioa.com>

Phread,

I saw Peach Creek Shops list the engine at over $900 not long ago! Maybe it's
just a guess on their part ... still too much for me even if I was still in HOn3,
not On3. I'd be willing to bet that some HOers would switch to O if an ET engine
became available?!? And, yes, I've already started talking to a few folks about
helping me make a 4-6-0 kit from a combination of spin castings, brass and
urethane. It'll take a while to put the project together, but the drive train is
a whole lot easier in O than HO ... and I expect a kit would sell for much less
than the HO RTR brass!

Jim

Phread wrote:

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Curtis,

The ET & WNC 4-6-0's look really good, but the $700 price tag is a bit much!

Phread

Curtis Brookshire wrote:

From: "Curtis Brookshire" <curtis.brookshire@gte.net>

Linville Depot and piggyback flats. Great to hear more ET&WNC kits going on
the market. We need to get this information in the model press. Hope Dan
McKee (Key Imports) is paying attention.

P-L-E-A-S-E everyone, if you have not reserved a Key ET&WNC ten wheeler and
have any intentions of purchasing one, do so soon. Key will only produce
them when he gets enough reservations. Realize it's a powerful commitment,
but that's the only way we'll see them.

Thanks Les, Jim and Phread for the latest kit announcements.

Curtis
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From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Curtis,

The ET & WNC 4-6-0's look really good, but the $700 price tag is a bit much!

Phread

Curtis Brookshire wrote:

From: "Curtis Brookshire" <curtis.brookshire@gte.net>

Linville Depot and piggyback flats. Great to hear more ET&WNC kits going on
the market. We need to get this information in the model press. Hope Dan
McKee (Key Imports) is paying attention.

P-L-E-A-S-E everyone, if you have not reserved a Key ET&WNC ten wheeler and
have any intentions of purchasing one, do so soon. Key will only produce
them when he gets enough reservations. Realize it's a powerful commitment,
but that's the only way we'll see them.

Thanks Les, Jim and Phread for the latest kit announcements.

Curtis
.

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From: "Curtis Brookshire" <curtis.brookshire@gte.net>

Linville Depot and piggyback flats. Great to hear more ET&WNC kits going on
the market. We need to get this information in the model press. Hope Dan
McKee (Key Imports) is paying attention.

P-L-E-A-S-E everyone, if you have not reserved a Key ET&WNC ten wheeler and
have any intentions of purchasing one, do so soon. Key will only produce
them when he gets enough reservations. Realize it's a powerful commitment,
but that's the only way we'll see them.

Thanks Les, Jim and Phread for the latest kit announcements.

Curtis
.

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From: "J. L. Walker" <WEBSTERCLASSICMODELS@compuserve.com>

Save a little of your money. We are working on a Linville Depot in HO. I
refuse to promise a time - then I get all up tight - but it should be ready
by the time of the Historical Society Meet. Price unknown - but, laser
cut, wood shingles.... we will see.. There are some decent plastic
shingles out there now too. We will stick to our modus operandi, which is
- prototype fidelity and model quality. Wood shingles, laser cut windows.
Les Walker dba Webster Classic Models

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From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Thanks Curtis,...got it, and this time am backing it up!!

Phread

Curtis Brookshire wrote:

From: "Curtis Brookshire" <curtis.brookshire@gte.net>

Two in HOn3. If you make the third, which was a different size, let me
know.
Curtis

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