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Re: Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.

Lee Bishop
 

Sadly, my wife had other plans for me when Dean's presentation was going on.
I'd love to see what I missed!
--
Lee Bishop
Owner, Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30 gauge


Re: Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.

Dan Stenger
 

Yes, he certainly did!!!

The recordings will be posted on http://40nngc.com/

Dan

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From: "Tom Grabenstein"
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Saturday August 22 2020 9:22:25PM
Subject: Re: [ETWNC] Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.

Hi Sandy,

The moderator at the beginning mentioned they would “record” all the clinics. But he did not mention early on how to get to those recordings. I had to leave to go to the train club right after Dean’s talk and maybe someone heard how to access those recordings later in the day??? I would like to save Dean’s presentation if that is possible.  Doc Tom 

On Aug 22, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Sandy Bridges <smb@...> wrote:

 Is Dean’s presentation available anywhere for us who missed it. YouTube, Facebook etc.?

Sandy Bridges


On Aug 22, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dean Smith <smithfive@...> wrote:


Doc,
    Thank you so much for the kind words. Thanks for tuning is as well.  I had a really good time, and it was relatively glitch free. Glad the telegraph wires held up!
 
Dean
 
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 3:26 PM
Subject: [ETWNC] Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.
 
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Doc Tom is leaving the Linville Depot a very happy man. He has just heard, by telegraph no less, the wonderful talk given by Dean Smith at the 
 
This years convention was online (err telegraph) and Dean gave an excellent talk about our favorite little Rail Road. He had excellent pictures that showcased his splendid modeling. Doc Tom was furiously taking notes on all that he learned.
 
Dean you “Done Good.” Thank you for all the work you put in. And thanks for the great telegraph hook up.
 
Doc Tom
 
Online from St. Louis
Online from St. Louis


Re: Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.

Tom Grabenstein
 

Hi Sandy,

The moderator at the beginning mentioned they would “record” all the clinics. But he did not mention early on how to get to those recordings. I had to leave to go to the train club right after Dean’s talk and maybe someone heard how to access those recordings later in the day??? I would like to save Dean’s presentation if that is possible.  Doc Tom 

On Aug 22, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Sandy Bridges <smb@...> wrote:

 Is Dean’s presentation available anywhere for us who missed it. YouTube, Facebook etc.?

Sandy Bridges


On Aug 22, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dean Smith <smithfive@...> wrote:


Doc,
    Thank you so much for the kind words. Thanks for tuning is as well.  I had a really good time, and it was relatively glitch free. Glad the telegraph wires held up!
 
Dean
 
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 3:26 PM
Subject: [ETWNC] Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.
 
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Doc Tom is leaving the Linville Depot a very happy man. He has just heard, by telegraph no less, the wonderful talk given by Dean Smith at the 
 
This years convention was online (err telegraph) and Dean gave an excellent talk about our favorite little Rail Road. He had excellent pictures that showcased his splendid modeling. Doc Tom was furiously taking notes on all that he learned.
 
Dean you “Done Good.” Thank you for all the work you put in. And thanks for the great telegraph hook up.
 
Doc Tom
 
Online from St. Louis
Online from St. Louis


Re: Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.

Sandy Bridges
 

 Is Dean’s presentation available anywhere for us who missed it. YouTube, Facebook etc.?

Sandy Bridges


On Aug 22, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dean Smith <smithfive@...> wrote:


Doc,
    Thank you so much for the kind words. Thanks for tuning is as well.  I had a really good time, and it was relatively glitch free. Glad the telegraph wires held up!
 
Dean
 
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 3:26 PM
Subject: [ETWNC] Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.
 
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Doc Tom is leaving the Linville Depot a very happy man. He has just heard, by telegraph no less, the wonderful talk given by Dean Smith at the
 
This years convention was online (err telegraph) and Dean gave an excellent talk about our favorite little Rail Road. He had excellent pictures that showcased his splendid modeling. Doc Tom was furiously taking notes on all that he learned.
 
Dean you “Done Good.” Thank you for all the work you put in. And thanks for the great telegraph hook up.
 
Doc Tom
 
Online from St. Louis
Online from St. Louis


Re: Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.

Mark Lewis
 

Dean,

You did a great job showcasing the ET&WNC and also your great looking layout.
What a great ambassador for ET&WNC and HOn3 modeling, you are.

Mark Lewis 
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 5:24 PM Dean Smith <smithfive@...> wrote:
Doc,
    Thank you so much for the kind words. Thanks for tuning is as well.  I had a really good time, and it was relatively glitch free. Glad the telegraph wires held up!
 
Dean
 
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 3:26 PM
Subject: [ETWNC] Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.
 
 
Doc Tom is leaving the Linville Depot a very happy man. He has just heard, by telegraph no less, the wonderful talk given by Dean Smith at the

40th National Narrow Gauge Convention

 
This years convention was online (err telegraph) and Dean gave an excellent talk about our favorite little Rail Road. He had excellent pictures that showcased his splendid modeling. Doc Tom was furiously taking notes on all that he learned.
 
Dean you “Done Good.” Thank you for all the work you put in. And thanks for the great telegraph hook up.
 
Doc Tom
 
Online from St. Louis
Online from St. Louis


Re: Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.

Dean Smith
 

Doc,
    Thank you so much for the kind words. Thanks for tuning is as well.  I had a really good time, and it was relatively glitch free. Glad the telegraph wires held up!
 
Dean
 

Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 3:26 PM
Subject: [ETWNC] Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.
 
 
Doc Tom is leaving the Linville Depot a very happy man. He has just heard, by telegraph no less, the wonderful talk given by Dean Smith at the
 
This years convention was online (err telegraph) and Dean gave an excellent talk about our favorite little Rail Road. He had excellent pictures that showcased his splendid modeling. Doc Tom was furiously taking notes on all that he learned.
 
Dean you “Done Good.” Thank you for all the work you put in. And thanks for the great telegraph hook up.
 
Doc Tom
 
Online from St. Louis
Online from St. Louis


Dean Smith "done good" today with his talk about the ET&WNC.

Tom Grabenstein
 


Doc Tom is leaving the Linville Depot a very happy man. He has just heard, by telegraph no less, the wonderful talk given by Dean Smith at the 

This years convention was online (err telegraph) and Dean gave an excellent talk about our favorite little Rail Road. He had excellent pictures that showcased his splendid modeling. Doc Tom was furiously taking notes on all that he learned.

Dean you “Done Good.” Thank you for all the work you put in. And thanks for the great telegraph hook up.

Doc Tom

Online from St. Louis
Online from St. Louis


Re: Upcoming virtual narrow gauge convention

Lee Bishop
 

Thanks, Mark. That didn't show up on my cell, even after going back and looking for it after reading you post...
--
Lee Bishop
Owner, Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30 gauge


Re: Upcoming virtual narrow gauge convention

Mark Lewis
 

Lee,

I think this is what you are asking about. Directly of the 40th NNGC online schedule page:

"Connection information (via Zoom) will be provided here, closer to the event.   Please ensure that you have Zoom installed on your device, in advance!"

Mark Lewis
Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

 

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 1:51 PM Lee Bishop <leebishop1944@...> wrote:
I looked at the site and am a little confused. There's a listing of online events, but no links to how to get to any of them once they occur. Will this be on YouTube or something you have sign up for, like zoom?
I really want to see your clinic, Dean!
If there's a any chance any of you are thinking ahead to the 2022 one in Tacoma, I've already been asked to present a clinic and to have my layout open for tours.
--
Lee Bishop
Owner, Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30 gauge


Re: Upcoming virtual narrow gauge convention

Lee Bishop
 

I looked at the site and am a little confused. There's a listing of online events, but no links to how to get to any of them once they occur. Will this be on YouTube or something you have sign up for, like zoom?
I really want to see your clinic, Dean!
If there's a any chance any of you are thinking ahead to the 2022 one in Tacoma, I've already been asked to present a clinic and to have my layout open for tours.
--
Lee Bishop
Owner, Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30 gauge


Re: Sparta Earthquake

John Edwards
 

I live just outside Johnson City and I never even knew we had an earthquake until I turned on the news.

John Edwards

Watauga, TN


On 8/9/2020 7:15 PM, Curtis Brookshire via groups.io wrote:
Just wanted to know if those who live in the area near Sparta NC (mountains you know) came through this morning's 5.1 magnitude earthquake. My wife saw a news article that mistakenly had the epicenter near Johnson City and I immediately emailed Fred Alsop. Sparta is a bit east of JC, due north of Wilkesboro and due south of Wytheville VA. Hope everything stayed on the tracks, I mean shelves. People I go to church with felt it just west of me. I was outside at 8 am and never noticed.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level, NC

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Re: Sparta Earthquake

brownleboone
 

I felt and heard it in Boone. There were two jolts. No real damage reported in this area. 
Larry Brown

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 7:47 PM Julia Williams Kodak via groups.io <jkodak=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Felt it here in Roan Mountain, TN!  Although I'm sure it was just seconds, I was wondering when it was going
to stop and was concerned if it went any longer it might get worse. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Brookshire via groups.io <curtis.brookshire=verizon.net@groups.io>
To: ETWNC <ETWNC@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2020 7:15 pm
Subject: [ETWNC] Sparta Earthquake

Just wanted to know if those who live in the area near Sparta NC (mountains you know) came through this morning's 5.1 magnitude earthquake. My wife saw a news article that mistakenly had the epicenter near Johnson City and I immediately emailed Fred Alsop. Sparta is a bit east of JC, due north of Wilkesboro and due south of Wytheville VA. Hope everything stayed on the tracks, I mean shelves. People I go to church with felt it just west of me. I was outside at 8 am and never noticed.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level, NC


Re: Based on a true story . . .

Lee Bishop
 

Dean,
I totally get it, as I, too, model a fictional ET&WNC branch line.
I never had the room to do justice to any scenes on the real ET&WNC, so a fictional branch line was the way to go.
I'm glad I did it. But it’s always been about the Tweetsie, when it comes to modeling....
--
Lee Bishop
Owner, Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30 gauge


Re: HO Scale Fantasy(?) Meet

Tom Grabenstein
 

Nice looking lokies. Thanks for sharing.  Dr Tom

On Aug 9, 2020, at 7:18 PM, John Overman via groups.io <jmoverma@...> wrote:

The reason for the question mark in the title is a meet like this could indeed have happened, but there is no evidence of it. 

The date is 1971, and Southern Railway 2-8-0 #722 is passing through Johnson City, TN leading an Excursion to Bristol, VA. The 722 prepares to make a stop at the Southern's Johnson City depot, and on the way passes familiar territory.

You see, the 722(along with sister locomotive #630) spent 15 years from 1952-1967, operating on the ET&WNC railroad as their 208 and 207 respectively.  In December 1967, the ET&WNC traded the 207 and 208 back to the Southern for use in their rapidly expanding Steam Excursion Program, in exchange for two RS-3 diesel locomotives. 

In this scene, the 722 excursion passes ET&WNC 209,  one of the very diesels that replaced her, headed down to the ET's interchange with the Southern to pick up a cut of cars.
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HO Scale Fantasy(?) Meet

John Overman
 

The reason for the question mark in the title is a meet like this could indeed have happened, but there is no evidence of it. 

The date is 1971, and Southern Railway 2-8-0 #722 is passing through Johnson City, TN leading an Excursion to Bristol, VA. The 722 prepares to make a stop at the Southern's Johnson City depot, and on the way passes familiar territory.

You see, the 722(along with sister locomotive #630) spent 15 years from 1952-1967, operating on the ET&WNC railroad as their 208 and 207 respectively.  In December 1967, the ET&WNC traded the 207 and 208 back to the Southern for use in their rapidly expanding Steam Excursion Program, in exchange for two RS-3 diesel locomotives. 

In this scene, the 722 excursion passes ET&WNC 209,  one of the very diesels that replaced her, headed down to the ET's interchange with the Southern to pick up a cut of cars.


Re: Upcoming virtual narrow gauge convention

Tom Grabenstein
 

This is extremely exciting news! I attended the St. Louis Narrow gauge convention 10 years ago when I was big into garden railroading. It was wonderful.

Now that you will be presenting my favorite railroad indoors I will be tuning in.

Going to look at the website you gave us and plan on participating in as many events as possible.

Dr. Tom


On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Dean Smith <smithfive@...> wrote:

Hi. I would like to let everyone know that the St. Louis Narrow Gauge Convention, which was unfortunately cancelled, will be going virtual. There will be a total of nine clinics and six layout tours spread over three Saturdays: August 22, August 29, and September 5. The clinics and tours will be on Zoom, free, and available to everyone. Sandy said I must be the lead-off hitter, because my clinic on the operation of my ET&WNC-Vida Division Railroad is the first one. I will be presenting on August 22nd at 10:00 am Central Time. Information and future sign-in procedures are available on the St. Louis Narrow Gauge Convention site: https://40nngc.com .  There may be some minor changes in the schedule, but that will also be announced. I was disappointed when the convention was cancelled and am looking forward to presenting my clinic virtually. Feel free to tune in.  Thanks!
Dean
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Re: Based on a true story . . .

Tom Grabenstein
 

Very well written commentary. Thank you for posting this. Dr. Tom


On Aug 9, 2020, at 3:11 PM, William Uffelman via groups.io <ufffam@...> wrote:

Well said!

Bill Uffelman 


On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 4:03 PM, Sheldon Daitch via groups.io
<sheldondaitch@...> wrote:
Dean,

nicely stated.

Sheldon

On Sunday, August 9, 2020, 03:54:27 PM EDT, Dean Smith <smithfive@...> wrote:


Hi, again.  I've had some interesting conversations recently about staying true to our prototype's history and using modeler's license while we create our own miniature worlds. I've decided to jot down a few thoughts about this dichotomy, which I'm sharing here.  And please don't worry, no feathers were ruffled during these conversations!

 

I have always been a huge fan on Buddy Holly, even though I was only one week old when he was tragically killed in a plane crash in Iowa. So, when I saw that “The Buddy Holly Story,” the 1978 biopic starring Gary Busey, was on TV a few weeks ago, I sat down and rewatched it.  It’s overall a pretty good movie, but it caused a bit of a stir among Holly’s family, friends, and fans because of its many inaccuracies. The 2017 documentary, “Rave On,” is excellent and gives a much more accurate portrayal of his life and times, and I strongly recommend it to all of the “That’ll Be the Day” fans everywhere.

            What, you may rightfully ask, does this have to do with our favorite railroad? I will never forget the excitement of the first few conventions, as we held seemingly endless discussions and uncovered so many facts about the railroad. I proudly displayed photos of my new covered deck bridge which was, of course, painted barn red based on the painting in Mallory Hope Ferrell’s book, Tweetsie Country. I soon learned that the bridge was never any color that good old, Tweetsie Green.  What color were the engines painted?  What was the coupler height? I was fortunate to have met several of the old-timers, including Tighteye Simerly, and will never forget sitting with John Waite and helping him interview Preacher Brown.  Reading Ken Riddle’s articles about the men that he knew and loved so well makes me feel that I almost knew them as well. We fans and modelers of the ET are now so blessed with the plethora of wonderful information that has been, and continues to be, discovered and published.  Dr. Tom has been posting wonderful side-by-side photos of his fine modeling alongside the prototype photos that inspired him. I also love this challenge and will continue to also post similar photos.

            This being said, you may have noticed that I never discuss my model railroad without including its entire name, the ET&WNC-Vida Division.  My layout is based on the ET, but it is more of a movie than a documentary.  There are many differences between the prototype and the Vida Division that exist for a variety reasons: some operational, some personal, and some aesthetic.  While I try to accurately model railroad cars, structures, and scenic areas, there are times when I consciously veer from historical accuracy, if I feel that these changes will benefit the “reality” of the railroad in the basement.  When decisions are made between historical accuracy and modeler’s license, these decisions are not made lightly and, hopefully, end up serving as complementary parts of the whole picture.

            I love learning about the history of our special mountain short-line railroad as much as I love modeling it, and I again applaud everyone who works so hard to increase our knowledge of its history and keeps its traditions alive, both with the written word and in models.  I’m reminded of perhaps my favorite quote about the ET, when an elderly local woman was asked why the railroad was so beloved by the mountain people that it served.  She thought a bit, and reportedly replied, “Well, it’s the onliest railroad around.”  There are many of us who may be fond of other railroads, but the ET&WNC is the “onliest” one in our hearts.  I want to thank all of you for bringing me so much joy over the years.


Re: Sparta Earthquake

Julia Williams Kodak
 

Felt it here in Roan Mountain, TN!  Although I'm sure it was just seconds, I was wondering when it was going
to stop and was concerned if it went any longer it might get worse. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Brookshire via groups.io <curtis.brookshire@...>
To: ETWNC <ETWNC@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2020 7:15 pm
Subject: [ETWNC] Sparta Earthquake

Just wanted to know if those who live in the area near Sparta NC (mountains you know) came through this morning's 5.1 magnitude earthquake. My wife saw a news article that mistakenly had the epicenter near Johnson City and I immediately emailed Fred Alsop. Sparta is a bit east of JC, due north of Wilkesboro and due south of Wytheville VA. Hope everything stayed on the tracks, I mean shelves. People I go to church with felt it just west of me. I was outside at 8 am and never noticed.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level, NC


Sparta Earthquake

Curtis Brookshire
 

Just wanted to know if those who live in the area near Sparta NC (mountains you know) came through this morning's 5.1 magnitude earthquake. My wife saw a news article that mistakenly had the epicenter near Johnson City and I immediately emailed Fred Alsop. Sparta is a bit east of JC, due north of Wilkesboro and due south of Wytheville VA. Hope everything stayed on the tracks, I mean shelves. People I go to church with felt it just west of me. I was outside at 8 am and never noticed.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level, NC


Re: Based on a true story . . .

William Uffelman
 

Well said!

Bill Uffelman 


On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 4:03 PM, Sheldon Daitch via groups.io
<sheldondaitch@...> wrote:
Dean,

nicely stated.

Sheldon

On Sunday, August 9, 2020, 03:54:27 PM EDT, Dean Smith <smithfive@...> wrote:


Hi, again.  I've had some interesting conversations recently about staying true to our prototype's history and using modeler's license while we create our own miniature worlds. I've decided to jot down a few thoughts about this dichotomy, which I'm sharing here.  And please don't worry, no feathers were ruffled during these conversations!

 

I have always been a huge fan on Buddy Holly, even though I was only one week old when he was tragically killed in a plane crash in Iowa. So, when I saw that “The Buddy Holly Story,” the 1978 biopic starring Gary Busey, was on TV a few weeks ago, I sat down and rewatched it.  It’s overall a pretty good movie, but it caused a bit of a stir among Holly’s family, friends, and fans because of its many inaccuracies. The 2017 documentary, “Rave On,” is excellent and gives a much more accurate portrayal of his life and times, and I strongly recommend it to all of the “That’ll Be the Day” fans everywhere.

            What, you may rightfully ask, does this have to do with our favorite railroad? I will never forget the excitement of the first few conventions, as we held seemingly endless discussions and uncovered so many facts about the railroad. I proudly displayed photos of my new covered deck bridge which was, of course, painted barn red based on the painting in Mallory Hope Ferrell’s book, Tweetsie Country. I soon learned that the bridge was never any color that good old, Tweetsie Green.  What color were the engines painted?  What was the coupler height? I was fortunate to have met several of the old-timers, including Tighteye Simerly, and will never forget sitting with John Waite and helping him interview Preacher Brown.  Reading Ken Riddle’s articles about the men that he knew and loved so well makes me feel that I almost knew them as well. We fans and modelers of the ET are now so blessed with the plethora of wonderful information that has been, and continues to be, discovered and published.  Dr. Tom has been posting wonderful side-by-side photos of his fine modeling alongside the prototype photos that inspired him. I also love this challenge and will continue to also post similar photos.

            This being said, you may have noticed that I never discuss my model railroad without including its entire name, the ET&WNC-Vida Division.  My layout is based on the ET, but it is more of a movie than a documentary.  There are many differences between the prototype and the Vida Division that exist for a variety reasons: some operational, some personal, and some aesthetic.  While I try to accurately model railroad cars, structures, and scenic areas, there are times when I consciously veer from historical accuracy, if I feel that these changes will benefit the “reality” of the railroad in the basement.  When decisions are made between historical accuracy and modeler’s license, these decisions are not made lightly and, hopefully, end up serving as complementary parts of the whole picture.

            I love learning about the history of our special mountain short-line railroad as much as I love modeling it, and I again applaud everyone who works so hard to increase our knowledge of its history and keeps its traditions alive, both with the written word and in models.  I’m reminded of perhaps my favorite quote about the ET, when an elderly local woman was asked why the railroad was so beloved by the mountain people that it served.  She thought a bit, and reportedly replied, “Well, it’s the onliest railroad around.”  There are many of us who may be fond of other railroads, but the ET&WNC is the “onliest” one in our hearts.  I want to thank all of you for bringing me so much joy over the years.