Date   
Linville Kit

J. L. Walker <WEBSTERCLASSICMODELS@...>
 

THANKS for the orders. We will be producing the kit. We will produce it
with the wood shingles. It will be specially priced for the convention at
$43.00. After that it will be $52.95 and $3.00 for mailing if direct from
us. Thanks again.
Les Walker dba Webster Classic Models

Re: Batten and Board Coach For Sale

Chris Stark <chriss@...>
 

Have you sold it yet?

If not, let me know where to send the money. My father has an HOn3 and
it would be a fine addition.

Chris Stark

Re: Linville Depot

Ebteng18@...
 

In a message dated 5/10/99 5:45:44 PM EST,
WEBSTERCLASSICMODELS@... writes:

<< Let me know here in this group or at our e-mail address
(websterclassicmodels@...). With enough interest, we will
produce it, and will have it ready in a couple of weeks. Again: $52.95
open market or mail order; $43.00 ONLY at ETWNCHS meeting >>
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------
I will take one of the Linville Depot kits. I will be at the ET&WNC
Convention
and will pick it up from you there.

Bill Miller.................Ebteng18@...

Batten and Board Coach For Sale

Tuhr.Barnes@...
 

In cleaning out a few boxes, I found an un-assembled HOn3 EBT Batten
and Board coach kit. This is the resin kit put out several years ago
by the EBT folks. If anyone is interested, I am willing to sell it at
$25.00 domestic postage paid.

Please reply direct to:

tuhr@...

Thanks, Tuhr Barnes.
[ET&WNC in Sn3]

ET Kits in Boone

J. L. Walker <WEBSTERCLASSICMODELS@...>
 

We were queried as to whether we still have engine house kits. Yes we have
some of all of our ET kits and will bring them with us. All will have
special prices.
Les Walker dba Webster Classic Models see web page for picts.

Re: Linville Depot

J. L. Walker <WEBSTERCLASSICMODELS@...>
 

Will Linville be available in O scale? Not from this company.
Les Walker Webster Classic Models

Selected reading

Jim King <jking@...>
 

Hi all,

I was scanning some of the early issues of the Gazettes when I came
across 2 issues that had a lot of interest to me. Hopefully, others
will enjoy reading them, assuming you have the issues!

Nov/Dec 78, page 34, starts a 5 page article on Whiting Lumber Co. that
connected with the Southern Ry branch between Elizabethton and Mtn.
City, Tn. at Butler. The article is written by Dick Andrews, a
traveling authority on operations in the TN/NC mountains in the 30's and
40's. Trackplan of the lumber line, 5 photos and a lot of descriptive
text. Well worth reading to get a feel for mountain logging.

Jan 78, page 34, starts a 4 page article on Tweetsie reminiscences in
1938. Photos of coaling the 11 at Johnson City trestle, a wide view of
narrow hoppers and a CRR std. hopper on the same trestle, 11 switching
in the JC yard, Hampton covered bridge near Tunnel 1, and 3 other pix at
the transfer trestle in JC, including 2 tank cars. A sketch of the
D.H.McRae lumber mill at Linville and more very descriptive text
completes the article.

Very worthwhile reading for those of us interested in eastern ng
mountain railroading.

Jim King
Asheville, NC

Locomotive #12

Gary B Scoggins <Gary.B.Scoggins@...>
 

She's Back! Tweetsie road tested #12 yesterday. Word from the Tweetsie Shops is
that she runs like a dream and is in better than new condition after a 20 month
rebuild. She has been slated to open the 1999 season this Saturday.

Re: Linville Depot

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Will this also become available in "O" scale eventually?

Phread

"J. L. Walker" wrote:

From: "J. L. Walker" <WEBSTERCLASSICMODELS@...>

The Linville Depot kit in HO scale is almost complete! This is a
"neat" looking little depot. The laser cut parts go together like a jigsaw
puzzle. It is fun to build. The windows and doors are laser-cut in 1/64"
peel-and-stick plywood; the walls are 1/16" plain basswood and there are
tabs and slots for the whole thing. The interior walls (with door
openings) and a floor for the freight room are an integral part of the
structure, as is a floor for the whole structure and a ceiling, creating a
removable roof. Wood shingles in S scale from Evergreen Hill Designs are
perfect for covering the outside walls. In fact, their shingles in HO
scale are great for the roof. (Builders in Scale also makes a wood shingle
but the profile is non-prototypically [for this structure] irregular on the
lower edge. [We have half-built one test kit and it is really a "cute(?)"
building.] The only problem is in the cost. For the basic kit, WITHOUT
ANY SHINGLES, the retail price comes to $39.95.
Fine, er... not too bad. The wood shingles add $6.50 per package
to the retail price, either scale - two packages are needed to do it all in
wood. Campbell's makes their famous paper shingle strips which can be
used on the roof - to include them adds about $1.50 to the retail price.
The Campbells will do for the roof, but they will not do for the outside
walls (another $1.50), IMHO.
Mind you, the building is only 6 3/8" x 3 3/8" with the roof
overhang. There are 4 windows, one bay with big window, 2 freight doors
and the curved top main front French door. It is not very big. (A little
"jewel"?)
So; we can produce a $53.00 kit for Linville with all wood, peel
and stick shingles and laser technology.
We can produce a $48.00 kit, with S scale wood shingles for the
outside and Campbells for the roof.
We can produce a $40.00 kit with NO shingles.
[When you put it that way, the $48.00 one sounds dumb, doesn't it.]
The only alternative that sounds good to me is the first - $52.95
with all wood shingles.

We are reluctant to produce a product we can't sell. (Neatly
stacked, labeled boxes look nice on a shelf, but not THAT nice). From past
experience, I suspect that only ETWNC fans will purchase this kit. Can we
sell more than 5 or so?
What do youall think? How many of the ET bunch are willing to
invest in such a kit? Now, I know it's sight unseen; but this kit goes
together better than any of the other kits we have done in ETWNC. (Well, I
think we could offer it at the Historical Society in Boone, ONLY, for more
like $43.00, and then go on the market at $52.95.)
Let me know here in this group or at our e-mail address
(websterclassicmodels@...). With enough interest, we will
produce it, and will have it ready in a couple of weeks. Again: $52.95
open market or mail order; $43.00 ONLY at ETWNCHS meeting.

Mary Jo and Les Walker dba Webster Classic Models.

PS: We plan to be at the ET&WNC Railroad Historical Socitey meeting at
Boone in June. Hopefully we can set up in an open area at the motel at
some conveinient time for sales. We will hope to set up as an exibit in
the covered dining area at Tweetsie. They are not keen about us making
sales there, so we may have to display there and sell elsewhere ... we will
see. WE PLAN TO OFFER OUR REMAINING STOCK OF ET&WNC STRUCTURES AT
SUBSTANTIAL DISCOUNTS! We will then discontinue most all of them. GET
YOURS WHILE YOU CAN!!
Mary Jo and Les

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Congratulations to "Trail Rider," our latest ONElist of the Week.
http://www.ONElist.com
Visit our homepage and share with us how ONElist is changing YOUR life!

Linville Depot

J. L. Walker <WEBSTERCLASSICMODELS@...>
 

The Linville Depot kit in HO scale is almost complete! This is a
"neat" looking little depot. The laser cut parts go together like a jigsaw
puzzle. It is fun to build. The windows and doors are laser-cut in 1/64"
peel-and-stick plywood; the walls are 1/16" plain basswood and there are
tabs and slots for the whole thing. The interior walls (with door
openings) and a floor for the freight room are an integral part of the
structure, as is a floor for the whole structure and a ceiling, creating a
removable roof. Wood shingles in S scale from Evergreen Hill Designs are
perfect for covering the outside walls. In fact, their shingles in HO
scale are great for the roof. (Builders in Scale also makes a wood shingle
but the profile is non-prototypically [for this structure] irregular on the
lower edge. [We have half-built one test kit and it is really a "cute(?)"
building.] The only problem is in the cost. For the basic kit, WITHOUT
ANY SHINGLES, the retail price comes to $39.95.
Fine, er... not too bad. The wood shingles add $6.50 per package
to the retail price, either scale - two packages are needed to do it all in
wood. Campbell's makes their famous paper shingle strips which can be
used on the roof - to include them adds about $1.50 to the retail price.
The Campbells will do for the roof, but they will not do for the outside
walls (another $1.50), IMHO.
Mind you, the building is only 6 3/8" x 3 3/8" with the roof
overhang. There are 4 windows, one bay with big window, 2 freight doors
and the curved top main front French door. It is not very big. (A little
"jewel"?)
So; we can produce a $53.00 kit for Linville with all wood, peel
and stick shingles and laser technology.
We can produce a $48.00 kit, with S scale wood shingles for the
outside and Campbells for the roof.
We can produce a $40.00 kit with NO shingles.
[When you put it that way, the $48.00 one sounds dumb, doesn't it.]
The only alternative that sounds good to me is the first - $52.95
with all wood shingles.

We are reluctant to produce a product we can't sell. (Neatly
stacked, labeled boxes look nice on a shelf, but not THAT nice). From past
experience, I suspect that only ETWNC fans will purchase this kit. Can we
sell more than 5 or so?
What do youall think? How many of the ET bunch are willing to
invest in such a kit? Now, I know it's sight unseen; but this kit goes
together better than any of the other kits we have done in ETWNC. (Well, I
think we could offer it at the Historical Society in Boone, ONLY, for more
like $43.00, and then go on the market at $52.95.)
Let me know here in this group or at our e-mail address
(websterclassicmodels@...). With enough interest, we will
produce it, and will have it ready in a couple of weeks. Again: $52.95
open market or mail order; $43.00 ONLY at ETWNCHS meeting.

Mary Jo and Les Walker dba Webster Classic Models.

PS: We plan to be at the ET&WNC Railroad Historical Socitey meeting at
Boone in June. Hopefully we can set up in an open area at the motel at
some conveinient time for sales. We will hope to set up as an exibit in
the covered dining area at Tweetsie. They are not keen about us making
sales there, so we may have to display there and sell elsewhere ... we will
see. WE PLAN TO OFFER OUR REMAINING STOCK OF ET&WNC STRUCTURES AT
SUBSTANTIAL DISCOUNTS! We will then discontinue most all of them. GET
YOURS WHILE YOU CAN!!
Mary Jo and Les

New ET&WNC HOn3 kits

J. L. Walker <WEBSTERCLASSICMODELS@...>
 

Jim, I'll fo for one 8007 and one 8010 for the moment.
Les Walker.

New ET&WNC HOn3 kits

Jim King <jking@...>
 

Hi all,

For those of you on both email lists, I apologize for "double sending",
but at least you're guaranteed of getting this message.

Next week I will begin making patterns for the ET&WNC and Linville River
boxcars in HOn3. That's right ... HO! Although my primary interests
are in O and On3, I still plan on making HOn3 kits for the ET followers,
thanks to your support on the first 2 kits I've produced.

I may have some of the patterns ready to show at the convention on
6/18-19. I will be leaving for home after the convention banquet, so if
you want to place reservations for these kits, let me know now or then.
I will have some of the new On3 38' ET flat kits for sale and a few of
the current HOn3 kits, too, on Friday/Saturday nights.

At this time, I plan on offering the kits with Grandt trucks, Kadee #714
and ALPS laser printed decals for around $38 per kit. Those of you who
are sticklers for authenticity, David Hoffman's brass trucks are exact
for the various car options. I don't plan on offering his trucks thru
my company; just contact David directly and order my kits less trucks.

What I need from readers of this message is an idea of how many I should
produce in the first run. How many do you want? Please respond to me
off-list, indicating your desired order quantity. Your options are (all
are HOn3):

8006 ET&WNC 32' car length, w/ trucks, couplers & decals ... $38 (?)
8007 same as 8006, less trucks
8008 same as 8006, less t/c/d
8009 ET&WNC 37' car length, w/ t/c/d ... $38 (?)
8010 same as 8009, less trucks
8011 same as 8009, less t/c/d
8012 Linville River 37' car length, w/ t/c/d ... $38 (?)
8013 same as 8012, less trucks
8014 same as 8012, less t/c/d

These other ET kits are also still available:

8000 25-ton hopper w/ trucks, couplers & decals ... $38
8001 same as 4800, less trucks
8002 same as 4800, less trucks, couplers & decals
8003 32' flat w/ trucks, couplers & decals ... $33
8004 same as 4803, less trucks
8005 same as 4803, less trucks, couplers & decals

These are in On3:

4000 38' flat w/ trucks, couplers & decals (On3) ... $64
4001 same as 4000, less decals ... $59
4002 same as 4000, less t/c/d ... $49

Thanks for your patronage.

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works

[Fwd: [HOn3]: C19 kit]

Jim King <jking@...>
 

To all ET HOn3 modelers interested in the 4-6-0 kit:

Message #2 from Roger Chivers is attached.

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works
Asheville, NC

[Fwd: [HOn3]: Proposed C19 kit]

Jim King <jking@...>
 

Potential HOn3 ET 4-6-0 kit buyers:

I'm forwarding the first of two messages I've received from Roger
Chivers concerning his first US prototype HOn3 kit ... the D&RGW C-19
2-8-0. Please note there is no GUARANTEE he will be making the ET
engine ... the success of the more popular Colorado model will either
encourage or kill his interests in "our" engine.

I'm sending these messages out to everyone interested in buying 1 or
more of Roger's kits because he describes IN DETAIL just how the kit is
built. If you have problems working in white metal, forming brass and
screwing together trucks, underframes, etc., then I suggest you find
someone who can build one for your or just don't get one. Having said
that, keep in mind that, if the model is produced, there is no guarantee
just how long they'll be available for sale. While Roger plans on
keeping his C-19 in stock, the ET engine MIGHT become a limited run.
For $300 retail (or whatever the final price is), I recommend buying as
many as you think you'll need, get them in your hands, then worry about
building them later. I now model in On3, but I plan on getting one just
'cause its Tweetie!

Happy reading! It's a very educational set of messages.

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works
Asheville, NC

Re: Possible ET ten wheelers

Jim King <jking@...>
 

Johnny,

I believe I stated somewhere in all of my messages that we're talking about
COMPLETE KITS (mechanism w/ can motor and everything else) for $300. I'm
sure there will be some grumbling from a few folks about having to assemble
kits or not being brass models, but frankly, I'm convinced that NONE of us
will live long enough to see imported brass.

As for the construction methods used in these kits, it's only a little more
difficult than putting together an MDC 2-8-0. There are no injection molded
parts (as far as I know) and the cab (at least) has be assembled from etched
brass sheet. The tender is supposed to be spun cast white metal ... I doubt
it's solid, though ... probably just flat plates that are put together as a
box.

If the fear of having to put a kit together is enough to keep someone from
buying a kit, then maybe I can do some research to locate other modelers
willing to build them. If the "rule of thumb" for building On3 Shays from
PSC kits applies, the assembler will charge whatever you paid for the kit in
addition to the kit price ($300 kit becomes $600 to build it, painting is
extra ... maybe another $100-125). These kits are designed for assembly by
moderately-experienced modelers, not shake-the-box kitters. They are truly
craftsman kits, but when you're done, they look and RUN great.

Jim


johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@...>

Just one question? Is the $300 price being bandied about refer to a
complete kit or just the mechanism? That might make a difference to some
reservists.
Johnny Graybeal
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim King <jking@...>
To: ET&WNC HS Email List <Tweetsie@...>
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:13 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Possible ET ten wheelers

From: Jim King <jking@...>

Hi gang,

Here's the latest in the continuing saga of the ET 4-6-0 models in
HOn3. I've been told by reputable sources (dealers) that Key has
dropped the ET engines from reservation list. I don't have proof of
this, but I'm not surprised if it's so. I think only about a half of
the required 150 reservations were ever made and it's been 2 to 3 years
since the initial request was made. If I'm wrong, please set me
straight. Otherwise, let's consider the other option that I've been
working on.

I've already mentioned to the list that I've been talking with Roger
Chivers of Chiver's Finelines in England about producing HOn3 and On3
versions for the ten wheelers. Roger was, and still is, very reluctant
to produce **ANY** US prototypes because of the general impression that
US modelers don't feel comfortable assembling British-style kits (split
axles, quarter your own drivers, 1-piece gearboxes, white metal boilers
and tender tanks, etc.). Many members of the HOn3 mail list have
responded to his concern by voicing their desire for a D&RGW C-19 in
HOn3. There are no brass importers interested in making this model
because there's not enough market (sound familiar?). Besides, the cost
would be prohibitive for most potential customers (again, sound
familiar?).

The response from the members has been overwhelming, enough for Roger to
seriously consider making this kit. The really neat thing about this
project, other than the fact that SOMEONE really wants to do, is the
$240 target retail price and the fact he'll be able to offer the kit 6
months after he starts development (which I think has begun).

Not being one to sit idle, I immediately jumped on the bandwagon. Roger
stated that he wants to see how the C-19 sells before he commits to
another US prototype, especially one with greatly reduced "apparent"
market. Not speaking for Roger, I believe he'll come around to our way
of thinking and produce the kit in brass, pewter and other materials.
If/when he does, my guess is that it'll retail around $300 because fewer
would be sold. That's a bargain, considering the brass alternative. He
has a web page so you can see some of his HOn30 models, but I don't have
the address ... contact someone on the HOn3 mailing list for it.

What's my part in this? Nothing. Except as an instigator in keeping
his interests going. I see no value in just buying frame and driver
parts from him then spending my scarce hobby time making the rest of the
kit, when he can do it all cheaper and faster than I can.

I have 2 suggestions for the ET Historical Society:

1. The first is to actively collect as many interested modelers as
possible to show Roger the YOU will support his production of the
4-6-0s. If he can get 50 reservations, assuming $300 retail for the
kit, I believe he'd add it to his list. If you want to send your emails
to me and I'll pass them on to Roger, that's OK with me. Let's have a
cutoff date for interested customers of 5/20. The reservations will be
totaled and emailed to Roger soon after.

2. I recommend that the Society, if able, purchase additional kits to
sell to the "public". It may provide a means to generate income, spread
the word about the group and promote the hobby. I don't know what
discount structure, if any, will be offered by Roger, so this idea may
not be possible. Just think about it.

As for now, the fires are glowing on this engine. We've had 3 false
starts, all dealing with brass importers. Now, let's try a reputable
source that has a dedicated following in England and who wants to expand
to the US. If we help him to be successful, maybe he'll produce other
ET engines for us!

Regards,

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works
Asheville, NC



------------------------------------------------------------------------
Has ONElist changed your life?
http://www.ONElist.com
Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the
Week!

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you know why...
"The Closer" picked ONElist to host their baseball humor community?
http://www.onelist.com
Because of ONElist's reliable service and live customer support!

Possible ET ten wheelers

"Jerry A. Shepardson" <j.shepardson@...
 

I'd like to thank Jim for his relentless pursuit in trying to get
someone, anyone, to produce a model of these engines. After so many
false starts, I agree that none of us will live to see a brass model.
(Either that, or as soon as we all get our kits from the UK, Key will
announce the project is a go!! ;-)

If this all works out, I hope one of you experts will put one of these
together and then write an article telling those of us who are craftsman
impaired how to to assemble the thing! Then when I get the first one
complete and see how easy it was, I'll order a second one from the
historical society!

--
Jerry A. Shepardson

Eat Taters and Wear No Clothes

Re: Possible ET ten wheelers

johnny graybeal
 

Just one question? Is the $300 price being bandied about refer to a
complete kit or just the mechanism? That might make a difference to some
reservists.
Johnny Graybeal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim King <jking@...>
To: ET&WNC HS Email List <Tweetsie@...>
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:13 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Possible ET ten wheelers


From: Jim King <jking@...>

Hi gang,

Here's the latest in the continuing saga of the ET 4-6-0 models in
HOn3. I've been told by reputable sources (dealers) that Key has
dropped the ET engines from reservation list. I don't have proof of
this, but I'm not surprised if it's so. I think only about a half of
the required 150 reservations were ever made and it's been 2 to 3 years
since the initial request was made. If I'm wrong, please set me
straight. Otherwise, let's consider the other option that I've been
working on.

I've already mentioned to the list that I've been talking with Roger
Chivers of Chiver's Finelines in England about producing HOn3 and On3
versions for the ten wheelers. Roger was, and still is, very reluctant
to produce **ANY** US prototypes because of the general impression that
US modelers don't feel comfortable assembling British-style kits (split
axles, quarter your own drivers, 1-piece gearboxes, white metal boilers
and tender tanks, etc.). Many members of the HOn3 mail list have
responded to his concern by voicing their desire for a D&RGW C-19 in
HOn3. There are no brass importers interested in making this model
because there's not enough market (sound familiar?). Besides, the cost
would be prohibitive for most potential customers (again, sound
familiar?).

The response from the members has been overwhelming, enough for Roger to
seriously consider making this kit. The really neat thing about this
project, other than the fact that SOMEONE really wants to do, is the
$240 target retail price and the fact he'll be able to offer the kit 6
months after he starts development (which I think has begun).

Not being one to sit idle, I immediately jumped on the bandwagon. Roger
stated that he wants to see how the C-19 sells before he commits to
another US prototype, especially one with greatly reduced "apparent"
market. Not speaking for Roger, I believe he'll come around to our way
of thinking and produce the kit in brass, pewter and other materials.
If/when he does, my guess is that it'll retail around $300 because fewer
would be sold. That's a bargain, considering the brass alternative. He
has a web page so you can see some of his HOn30 models, but I don't have
the address ... contact someone on the HOn3 mailing list for it.

What's my part in this? Nothing. Except as an instigator in keeping
his interests going. I see no value in just buying frame and driver
parts from him then spending my scarce hobby time making the rest of the
kit, when he can do it all cheaper and faster than I can.

I have 2 suggestions for the ET Historical Society:

1. The first is to actively collect as many interested modelers as
possible to show Roger the YOU will support his production of the
4-6-0s. If he can get 50 reservations, assuming $300 retail for the
kit, I believe he'd add it to his list. If you want to send your emails
to me and I'll pass them on to Roger, that's OK with me. Let's have a
cutoff date for interested customers of 5/20. The reservations will be
totaled and emailed to Roger soon after.

2. I recommend that the Society, if able, purchase additional kits to
sell to the "public". It may provide a means to generate income, spread
the word about the group and promote the hobby. I don't know what
discount structure, if any, will be offered by Roger, so this idea may
not be possible. Just think about it.

As for now, the fires are glowing on this engine. We've had 3 false
starts, all dealing with brass importers. Now, let's try a reputable
source that has a dedicated following in England and who wants to expand
to the US. If we help him to be successful, maybe he'll produce other
ET engines for us!

Regards,

Jim King
Smoky Mountain Model Works
Asheville, NC



------------------------------------------------------------------------
Has ONElist changed your life?
http://www.ONElist.com
Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the
Week!

new ten-wheelers

C Ford <cfordart@...>
 

Add me to the list for at least 2 engines if Key ain't gonna make 'em. I
-would- like to know officially if and when the Key project is dead so I
can approach my local curmudgeoun (hobby dealer) about getting my down
payment back. Would anyone who gets any official word let us know? Is
Marty McGirk still the "official" liason 'tween us and Key?

Too many questions for one night....:) gotta get back workin' on the book.

Chris


-----------------------
Chris Ford
cfordart@...

http://www.mindspring.com/~cfordart/etwnc/home.html

Re: Possible ET ten wheelers

Curtis Brookshire <curtis.brookshire@...>
 

Once again Jim, I'll put my wallet forward. If he produces the 10-14
series, I'll take 4. If he does a number 9, I'll take one also. There's 4
(5) to get the ball rolling.

Sooner or later we will prevail.

Curtis

Re: Possible ET ten wheelers

"Jerry A. Shepardson" <j.shepardson@...
 

Jim King wrote:

I have 2 suggestions for the ET Historical Society:

1. The first is to actively collect as many interested modelers as
possible to show Roger the YOU will support his production of the
4-6-0s. If he can get 50 reservations, assuming $300 retail for the
kit, I believe he'd add it to his list. If you want to send your emails
to me and I'll pass them on to Roger, that's OK with me. Let's have a
cutoff date for interested customers of 5/20. The reservations will be
totaled and emailed to Roger soon after.
I will commit to one kit now. I like the idea of the HS having
additional kits, if this is possible. If I am able to get one to run,
I'd spring for a second kit.

The death of the Key project isn't much of a surprise given the length
of time. If the latest Key prices are any indication, I'm relieved I
won't need a second mortgage to finance the two I had reserved.


--
Jerry A. Shepardson

Eat Taters and Wear No Clothes!