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adding a member to the list

C Ford <cfordart@...>
 

Would the keeper of the list add

olin m anderson, oanderso@...

to the ET list, or send me the instructions for doing so. I've slept
since I got on and don't remember how to do it or even tell someone else
how :)

Thanks,
Chris


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Chris Ford
cfordart@...

http://www.mindspring.com/~cfordart/etwnc/home.html

Re: Reaearch on the Linville River Railroad.

mwest@...
 

I am very much interested in the Linville River Rwy and I visit Boone a
couple times a year to trace it. I can be reached at mwest@... or
843-744-7472 if you want to coordinate a trip.

Johnny Graybeal knows the entire ROW of the LRR, and he would be a good
source for info.mw

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From: Karl & Edwina Kleeman[SMTP:kleenc@...]
Reply To: Tweetsie@...
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 6:58 PM
To: ETWNC e mail group
Subject: [Tweetsie] Reaearch on the Linville River Railroad.

From: Karl & Edwina Kleeman <kleenc@...>

I am going to focus my research on the Lynville River Railroad and the
attached spur lines like the Boone Fork Lumber Company. I have started
mapping the old grades for the Boone Fork in the Julian Price Park area.
I
can trace most of it.

Is anyone else interested in the Lynville River and can some of you point
me in the right direction. The best I have are the Stemwinder articles
but
I want to find more details, especially pictures.

Would appreciate help and maybe a research buddy with the same interest.

Karl Kleeman
kleenc@...

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Re: Frank Coffey

StealthNFO@...
 

I don't know the address of the Watauga Hospital, but its on Deerfield Road
in Boone, and Frank is in room 329.

Matt

Re: Frank Coffey

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Matt,

Can cards be sent, and if so, where to?

Phread

StealthNFO@... wrote:


From: StealthNFO@...

Just wanted to let the Tweetsie fans know that Frank Coffey is in the
hospital with heart problems. He has been in the Watauga Hospital for about 3
weeks now. I visited with him yesterday, and he is still a bit shaky. Put him
and his family in your prayers, they will appreciate it.

Matt Bumgarner

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Frank Coffey

StealthNFO@...
 

Just wanted to let the Tweetsie fans know that Frank Coffey is in the
hospital with heart problems. He has been in the Watauga Hospital for about 3
weeks now. I visited with him yesterday, and he is still a bit shaky. Put him
and his family in your prayers, they will appreciate it.

Matt Bumgarner

Reaearch on the Linville River Railroad.

Karl & Edwina Kleeman <kleenc@...>
 

I am going to focus my research on the Lynville River Railroad and the
attached spur lines like the Boone Fork Lumber Company. I have started
mapping the old grades for the Boone Fork in the Julian Price Park area. I
can trace most of it.

Is anyone else interested in the Lynville River and can some of you point
me in the right direction. The best I have are the Stemwinder articles but
I want to find more details, especially pictures.

Would appreciate help and maybe a research buddy with the same interest.

Karl Kleeman
kleenc@...

Re: Rail length

Philip & Mary Snyder <snyderemarks@...>
 

Don't bother measuring rail in the gorge, as it is not original ET rail.
Keith Holley, at ETRY, would probably be able to tell you the actual length
off of the top of his head, because he has had to remove some of it.

Philip Snyder

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim King <jking@...>
To: Email list - On3 <on3@...>; Email List - Tweetsie
<Tweetsie@...>; Email list - HOn3 <HOn3@...>
Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 11:11 AM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Rail length


From: Jim King <jking@...>

Thanks to all who responsed to my rail length question. Looks like I
can work with 33' and 36' lengths with come certainty. Remember, 39'
lengths wouldn't have been used on the ET because the longest car was
38' !! I agree that 36' would have been the max used on the ET. As one
response suggested, I should measure some rails in the Doe River Gorge
to be sure.

Jim



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Re: Rail length

ken290 <ken290@...>
 

The Watauga River at Shulls Mills and Laurel is full of rail if you want to
know how long the Linville River rail was!
Ken

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From: ken290 <ken290@...>
To: Tweetsie@...
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Rail length
Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 1:43 PM

From: "ken290" <ken290@...>

The rails in Doe River gorge are not ET&WNC rails. They came from the
poor
old Smoky Mountain Railroad in Sevierville, Tennessee. Loest and Stanley
bought them from A.J.King in Sevierville (the last owner of SMRR) in 1967
or 68 and laid them for the Doe River Gorge amusement park. The rails on
the main line in front of Alumax (Coal Chute) and the siding into the
conveyor at the site of the Elizabethton engine house are from the narrow
gauge days. Look very carefully in front of Alumax and you will find
some
ties with three spike holes as well.
Ken Riddle

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From: Jim King <jking@...>
To: Email list - On3 <on3@...>; Email List - Tweetsie
<Tweetsie@...>; Email list - HOn3 <HOn3@...>
Subject: [Tweetsie] Rail length
Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 1:10 PM

From: Jim King <jking@...>

Thanks to all who responsed to my rail length question. Looks like I
can work with 33' and 36' lengths with come certainty. Remember, 39'
lengths wouldn't have been used on the ET because the longest car was
38' !! I agree that 36' would have been the max used on the ET. As
one
response suggested, I should measure some rails in the Doe River Gorge
to be sure.

Jim



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Re: Rail length

ken290 <ken290@...>
 

The rails in Doe River gorge are not ET&WNC rails. They came from the poor
old Smoky Mountain Railroad in Sevierville, Tennessee. Loest and Stanley
bought them from A.J.King in Sevierville (the last owner of SMRR) in 1967
or 68 and laid them for the Doe River Gorge amusement park. The rails on
the main line in front of Alumax (Coal Chute) and the siding into the
conveyor at the site of the Elizabethton engine house are from the narrow
gauge days. Look very carefully in front of Alumax and you will find some
ties with three spike holes as well.
Ken Riddle

----------
From: Jim King <jking@...>
To: Email list - On3 <on3@...>; Email List - Tweetsie
<Tweetsie@...>; Email list - HOn3 <HOn3@...>
Subject: [Tweetsie] Rail length
Date: Sunday, September 05, 1999 1:10 PM

From: Jim King <jking@...>

Thanks to all who responsed to my rail length question. Looks like I
can work with 33' and 36' lengths with come certainty. Remember, 39'
lengths wouldn't have been used on the ET because the longest car was
38' !! I agree that 36' would have been the max used on the ET. As one
response suggested, I should measure some rails in the Doe River Gorge
to be sure.

Jim



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Rail length

Jim King <jking@...>
 

Thanks to all who responsed to my rail length question. Looks like I
can work with 33' and 36' lengths with come certainty. Remember, 39'
lengths wouldn't have been used on the ET because the longest car was
38' !! I agree that 36' would have been the max used on the ET. As one
response suggested, I should measure some rails in the Doe River Gorge
to be sure.

Jim

Re: Rail length

Rick Blanchard <bdesign@...>
 

Jim,

Depending on the mill, rails came in 28, 30, 33 and 39 foot lengths.
This from Russ Simpson's data in the NGSLG, Nov/Dec 89. ET&WNC wasn't
referenced though.

Cheers,
Rick


I'm just now starting to lay rail on a few sections of my On3 layout.
While I was researching the ET&WNC 38' flat car that has since been
offered as a kit, it dawned on me that narrow gauge rail lengths had to
be shorter than standard gauge's 39 ft., since there were no cars of 40'
length to haul anything longer. Judging from the broadside photo of ET
flat car 261, a 38 footer, I'd say rails were around 36 ft or so.

Does anyone know for sure what rail lengths were most common? I'd like
to notch my 36" long rails at the appropriate scale length and add joint
bars at that spot.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Rick Blanchard
rick@...
San Diego, CA

My East Tennessee and Western North Carolina web site:
http://www.urbaneagle.com/slim/etwnc.html

Re: Rail length

Philip & Mary Snyder <snyderemarks@...>
 

Seems that I remember reading somewhere that the rail length was 37 ft.
That seems to agree with your research on the flatcar.

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim King <jking@...>
To: Email list - On3 <on3@...>; Email List - Tweetsie
<Tweetsie@...>; Email list - HOn3 <HOn3@...>
Date: Saturday, September 04, 1999 7:21 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Rail length


From: Jim King <jking@...>

Hi all,

I'm just now starting to lay rail on a few sections of my On3 layout.
While I was researching the ET&WNC 38' flat car that has since been
offered as a kit, it dawned on me that narrow gauge rail lengths had to
be shorter than standard gauge's 39 ft., since there were no cars of 40'
length to haul anything longer. Judging from the broadside photo of ET
flat car 261, a 38 footer, I'd say rails were around 36 ft or so.

Does anyone know for sure what rail lengths were most common? I'd like
to notch my 36" long rails at the appropriate scale length and add joint
bars at that spot.

Thanks,
Jim King
SMMW



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Rail length

Jim King <jking@...>
 

Hi all,

I'm just now starting to lay rail on a few sections of my On3 layout.
While I was researching the ET&WNC 38' flat car that has since been
offered as a kit, it dawned on me that narrow gauge rail lengths had to
be shorter than standard gauge's 39 ft., since there were no cars of 40'
length to haul anything longer. Judging from the broadside photo of ET
flat car 261, a 38 footer, I'd say rails were around 36 ft or so.

Does anyone know for sure what rail lengths were most common? I'd like
to notch my 36" long rails at the appropriate scale length and add joint
bars at that spot.

Thanks,
Jim King
SMMW

Re: Lawndale equipment and structures

StealthNFO@...
 

"The Lawndale Railway & Industrial Company" will be available by Christmas.
It is co-authored by Matt Bumgarner and Doug Walker, along with two other
local Lawndale historians.

The book will have LOTS of new photos and information, including those of the
previously unknown #2 and #3, as well as a few of the #1. The book is 6x9,
120 pages, and will be available in either hardback or softback.

Will keep the list posted on its release.

ET & WNC

Robert G. Hardin <rhardin1@...>
 

First of all I would like to say hello to all the Tweetsie Lovers! I am glad
I have found you. My forefathers (J.C. Hardin & George W. Hardin) were
involved extensively in the early ET & WNC operations and development. I am
interested in acquiring information that anybody may have on them and their
work with the railroad. I have all the books. I would also like to get (one
way or another) any pictures or memorabilia that directly relates to them. I
would like to get a few things to pass down to my children. Any information
on how I can go about that would be greatly beneficial.

Thanks!

Rob

Micro Construction Products Inc.
Rob Hardin
905 Union Hill Road
Alpharetta, GA 30004

770-753-4307 Office
770-753-9044 Fax

rhardin1@... <mailto:rhardin1@...>

Fw: ETRY, combine and Lawndale

ken290 <ken290@...>
 

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From: steamloc <steamloc@...>
To: Tweetsie@...
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] ETRY, combine and Lawndale
Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 2:12 PM

Hi you all-

Rumors of the death ot the East Tennessee Railway are not true. It has
looked pretty grim here in the recent past but just in the last week
things
have really taken a turn up. Can't get into much more than that right
now
but don't bury it yet.

It has NOT been petitioned to abandon and none is pending.

Stay tuned

Jim-If there were any boxcars at Doe River Gorge I don't remember them.
One of the BRB&L coach bodies was there for a time (the one that was not
Times Square and not Tweetsie Diner in Newland) but no boxcars that I
can
recollect. Those little passenger cars were made out of D&RGW flatcars
and
they did a nice job.

Hope you find them!

Ken Riddle


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From: Jim King <jking@...>
To: Email List - Tweetsie <Tweetsie@...>
Subject: [Tweetsie] ETRY, combine and Lawndale
Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:02 AM

From: Jim King <jking@...>

Hi all,

I heard a rumor while at Spencer last weekend that the ETRY has
formally
filed for abandonment ... if so, it will be approved within 9 months
and
demolition will begin soon after. Any truth to this?

As for the ET combine, it is planned as an eventual display in the
roundhouse, not the back shop. Restoration on the back shop should
start this month with asbestos removal and window/roof/brick work. The
Foundation has gathered 1/3 of the budgeted $30 million to rebuild the
building.

The Lawndale historical society has recently acquired 1 of the
remaining
5 LRR boxcars and is currently being restored. Reportedly, 2 boxcars
were sold to Hillbilly World at Doe River Gorge ... does anyone know
what happened to them? Only 7 boxcars TOTAL were saved after the LRR
abandoned in 1945. I can account for 5 still being in existence.

Lastly, I'm looking for more photos of Lawndale equipment and
structures
(future kits!!). I know Bob Richardson shot around 20 pix on a 1942
trip (I have copies, courtesy of John Waite) and I've seen the various
Gazette articles. I'm looking for info from obscure sources that you
readers may know of.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Jim King
SMMW


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ETRY, combine and Lawndale

Jim King <jking@...>
 

Hi all,

I heard a rumor while at Spencer last weekend that the ETRY has formally
filed for abandonment ... if so, it will be approved within 9 months and
demolition will begin soon after. Any truth to this?

As for the ET combine, it is planned as an eventual display in the
roundhouse, not the back shop. Restoration on the back shop should
start this month with asbestos removal and window/roof/brick work. The
Foundation has gathered 1/3 of the budgeted $30 million to rebuild the
building.

The Lawndale historical society has recently acquired 1 of the remaining
5 LRR boxcars and is currently being restored. Reportedly, 2 boxcars
were sold to Hillbilly World at Doe River Gorge ... does anyone know
what happened to them? Only 7 boxcars TOTAL were saved after the LRR
abandoned in 1945. I can account for 5 still being in existence.

Lastly, I'm looking for more photos of Lawndale equipment and structures
(future kits!!). I know Bob Richardson shot around 20 pix on a 1942
trip (I have copies, courtesy of John Waite) and I've seen the various
Gazette articles. I'm looking for info from obscure sources that you
readers may know of.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Jim King
SMMW

WCM web address

J. L. Walker <WEBSTERCLASSICMODELS@...>
 

Our web page address has changed. It is now
www.shore.net/~bwalker/wcm/wcm.html
Thanks for your interest.
Les Walker dba Webster Classic Models

No mail for a while

Jim King <jking@...>
 

Hi all,

I'm heading back to Spencer Thursday night thru Sunday night for crew
duty. Big Thomas the Tank Engine weekend ... 15,000 screamin' meanies
storming the train. Yippee!

I'm off the mail list starting tomorrow afternoon ... back sometime
Monday. Have a good weekend, ya'll.

Jim King

Re: shop drawings

ken290 <ken290@...>
 

Frank has the erecting cards for the 12---the drawings were gone form
Johnson City by 1955. There is a complete set for the 190 series 2-8-2
that Frank Coffee got from the White Pass.
Ken RIddle

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From: William C. Oram <wcoram@...>
To: ET SIG <tweetsie@...>
Subject: [Tweetsie] shop drawings
Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 5:39 PM

From: "William C. Oram" <wcoram@...>

Does any one know who really has the Baldwin 10-wheeler shop drawings??
Thanks, Bill Oram
Raleigh,NC

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