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Hothgang1
 

We visited the coaster last week but left as we felt uncomfortable standing in line with all those people.  About 30 min after we left, the lightning struck. 


-----Original Message-----
From: joel shipley <beahog81@...>
To: ETWNC@groups.io <ETWNC@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2020 11:23 am
Subject: Re: [ETWNC] Newsletter Update

I too am baffled. The Alpine Coaster located in Banner Elk has been wide open until a week ago when lightning shut that facility down. If the coaster can run why can’t Tweetsie?? Granted the coaster car only holds one person, the facility that services the patrons to board and unboard the cars has the customer packed in like a sardine can!! I am sure Tweetsie was taking great care to protect their customers. 


On Jul 28, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Tweetsie12 <jonahsnyder12190@...> wrote:

Yeah... Unfortunately, I heard the bad news. I'm honestly rather baffled by it, as it was the state who gave them permission to run the train in the first place. Hopefully, they won't have to remain this way and they'll be able to reopen again and possibly rescind some of the cancellations. Luckily, I made it out there on July 26th, and I had a blast! Here's hoping it won't be the only time I get to go this year!


locked Re: Newsletter Update

joel shipley
 

I too am baffled. The Alpine Coaster located in Banner Elk has been wide open until a week ago when lightning shut that facility down. If the coaster can run why can’t Tweetsie?? Granted the coaster car only holds one person, the facility that services the patrons to board and unboard the cars has the customer packed in like a sardine can!! I am sure Tweetsie was taking great care to protect their customers. 


On Jul 28, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Tweetsie12 <jonahsnyder12190@...> wrote:

Yeah... Unfortunately, I heard the bad news. I'm honestly rather baffled by it, as it was the state who gave them permission to run the train in the first place. Hopefully, they won't have to remain this way and they'll be able to reopen again and possibly rescind some of the cancellations. Luckily, I made it out there on July 26th, and I had a blast! Here's hoping it won't be the only time I get to go this year!


locked Re: Newsletter Update

Tweetsie12
 

Yeah... Unfortunately, I heard the bad news. I'm honestly rather baffled by it, as it was the state who gave them permission to run the train in the first place. Hopefully, they won't have to remain this way and they'll be able to reopen again and possibly rescind some of the cancellations. Luckily, I made it out there on July 26th, and I had a blast! Here's hoping it won't be the only time I get to go this year!


locked Newsletter Update

Curtis Brookshire
 

Even as Society members are receiving the July newsletter, I found out this morning that my "good" news turned bad yesterday. I checked Tweetsie's website and NC told them that they could not run the train due to Corona Virus restrictions, so the park is again shut down with Heritage Weekend (as well as just about every other event) canceled. So continue to watch videos, work on your layouts and post photos, wear your ET&WNC mask (I'm waiting for mine to arrive in the mail), read your books and publications and pay your society dues (and join if you're not yet a member). 

Stay well y'all,
Curtis Brookshire
from work in Fayetteville


Re: Historical Society July 2020 newsletter

Bill Miller
 

Got mine here on the Lower Western Shore Today Monday July 27th 2020

 Bill Miller


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Ford <chris@...>
To: etwnc@groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2020 12:36 pm
Subject: [ETWNC] Historical Society July 2020 newsletter

Hi all,

The July 2020 Society newsletter is in the hands of the Postmaster. A great big "Thank You" goes out to Curtis Brookshire, our newsletter editor (and vice-president), for his work in gathering and writing the newsletter, and especially to Patricia Jennings, our Treasurer, for getting these printed, folded, stuffed and labeled, and mailed.

These newsletters include a Membership/Dues sheet because, yes, it's "that" time again....time to pay your dues to help keep the memory of this glorious little narrow gauge railroad alive in the hearts and minds of folks in the ET area and all across the country.

This newsletter includes another great story by Ken Riddle that you won't want to miss! It will be posted to our Society website at a later date.

For those of you who are not yet members, we invite you to join us in our endeavor! A membership form is available on our website (etwncrrhs.org). You know you've been wanting to join for a long time now...go ahead and do it...now's the perfect time! And thank you!

We are exploring our next chances for in-person get-togethers, but everything is still up in the air at the moment and for the foreseeable future. We'll keep you all up-to-date. Ideas are always welcomed!

Thanks for all that our members and our volunteers do, and to all who continue to express an interest in the history of the ET&WNC Railroad!




Chris
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Chris Ford
President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
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Historical Society July 2020 newsletter

Chris Ford
 

Hi all,

The July 2020 Society newsletter is in the hands of the Postmaster. A great big "Thank You" goes out to Curtis Brookshire, our newsletter editor (and vice-president), for his work in gathering and writing the newsletter, and especially to Patricia Jennings, our Treasurer, for getting these printed, folded, stuffed and labeled, and mailed.

These newsletters include a Membership/Dues sheet because, yes, it's "that" time again....time to pay your dues to help keep the memory of this glorious little narrow gauge railroad alive in the hearts and minds of folks in the ET area and all across the country.

This newsletter includes another great story by Ken Riddle that you won't want to miss! It will be posted to our Society website at a later date.

For those of you who are not yet members, we invite you to join us in our endeavor! A membership form is available on our website (etwncrrhs.org). You know you've been wanting to join for a long time now...go ahead and do it...now's the perfect time! And thank you!

We are exploring our next chances for in-person get-togethers, but everything is still up in the air at the moment and for the foreseeable future. We'll keep you all up-to-date. Ideas are always welcomed!

Thanks for all that our members and our volunteers do, and to all who continue to express an interest in the history of the ET&WNC Railroad!




Chris
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Chris Ford
President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
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www.cfordart.com


More Signs and Number plates available. #12s

Chris Jessee
 

I have some additional signs and builder plates available. 

The signs are the ET&WNC trucking company, printed on birch plywood. 
The builder plates are engraved birch plywood. 
The Number plates are either printed or engraved birch plywood. 

Very limited quantities available, order soon as supplies won't last. 

Order here: https://cbsafari.com/search?q=et
FREE Shipping on all orders. 


Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

William Uffelman
 

Great stuff!

Bill Uffelman 

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:33 PM, Chris Jessee via groups.io
<cj8n@...> wrote:
That’s fantastic Chris, I really appreciate the reference images. 


Chris Jessee

“The world isn’t simple enough to explain in words." - Hayao Miyazaki





Update on Howard Station Restaurant

 

Hi All!
So far, the Howard Station has acquired a ETWNC Bachman G scale engine, tender, and 5 cars, 4 maps, 5 photos' and numerous pieces of memorabilia all related to ETWNC.
They are starting to mount these items and give credit to those who have loaned/donated.
Does anyone have access, or know anyone who might have some used G scale RR tracks?
I'm hoping someone might have extra track stored in a closet or attic that they aren't using.
Any consideration would be GREATLY appreciated.
BTW, the food and staff there are fantastic!!!
Best,
Lee 


Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

Chris Jessee
 

That’s fantastic Chris, I really appreciate the reference images. 


Chris Jessee

“The world isn’t simple enough to explain in words." - Hayao Miyazaki





Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

Chris Ford
 

Here's a shot of a piece of coal and a piece of good magnetite that I found in Cranberry at the site of the old enginehouse. The magnetite has a magnet stuck to it. I don't think it is indicative of the size of what would have been used for ballast...ballast I've seen on the ROW is usually much smaller, maybe in the 1"-2" range...

http://cfordart.com/stuff/magnetite.jpg



And links to some shots from back in the day...



Ignore the critter, but even though the rocks are small in this photo, I think they're indicative of the ballast colors:

http://www.cfordart.com/photoalbum/photopages/fullsizepages/1989junefullsize/36fullsize.html




Here's a shot from the Gorge back before the washed out fill at the large retaining wall was repaired. It shows new (new from Hillbilly World) ballast on top of darker original stuff underneath.

http://www.cfordart.com/photoalbum/photopages/fullsizepages/1989junefullsize/27fullsize.html




Here's some shots from the mine showing the color of surrounding rock...

http://www.cfordart.com/photoalbum/photopages/fullsizepages/1990junefullsize/29fullsize.html

http://www.cfordart.com/photoalbum/photopages/fullsizepages/1990junefullsize/30fullsize.html




Here's one of a cattle guard on State Line Hill where the ballast would have been original...

http://www.cfordart.com/photoalbum/photopages/fullsizepages/2002junefullsize/32fullsize.html




Here's a couple of shots of some original tailings on the abutment at the covered bridge over the Little Doe...

http://www.cfordart.com/photoalbum/photopages/fullsizepages/2002junefullsize/5fullsize.html

http://www.cfordart.com/photoalbum/photopages/fullsizepages/2002junefullsize/6fullsize.html




And at long last here's what the track looked like in more modern times around a coal loading site in Elizabethton. Probably looked similar back in the day though...

http://www.cfordart.com/photoalbum/photopages/fullsizepages/2002junefullsize/19fullsize.html




Hope this helps a bit!




Chris

 
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Chris Ford
President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
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www.cfordart.com

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 06:43:47 -0700, "Chris Jessee via groups.io" <cj8n@...> wrote:
 
Can anyone share a close up photo of ET ballast or tailings you've picked up along the ROW? 

Thanks, 

Chris Jessee


Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

Chris Jessee
 

Can anyone share a close up photo of ET ballast or tailings you've picked up along the ROW? 

Thanks, 

Chris Jessee


Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

Chris Jessee
 

Thanks Dean!

Chris Jessee



Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

Curtis Brookshire
 

There's a photo on page 78 of Lucius Beebe's Mixed Train Daily showing stored switch stands salvaged from the post-flood Linville River Ry. They're high stands with a circle indicating the normal route and an arrow target indicating switch thrown for the diverted route. On the same page is the 3 rail switch at the Johnson City yard office (the current ET Ry office BTW) with a low diagonal target. So I expect low targets in the yards and high targets on the main and at industries.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level, NC


Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

Brian Kopp
 

One trick to get ballast (gravel, talus, etc.) color just right is to steal your kids or grandkids sidewalk chalk collection and shave some chalk dust into the Woodland Scenics or JTT ballast with a sharp knife. You can also buy the chalk at Staples in the children's school supplies section. To mute the ballast color use white chalk.  A squeeze bottle of white carpenters chalk powder also works and saves time since the shaving is already done.

Here is a color match I did for some desert dirt ground cover I was about to put down on my HOn3 layout. I started with buff fine ballast and added red and white chalk shavings until I was happy.

Not ETWNC colors but you get the idea.....
--
Brian Kopp
Jacksonville, Florida


Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

William Uffelman
 

Looks great. Thanks for sharing your formula.

Bill Uffelman


On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:23 PM, Dean Smith
<smithfive@...> wrote:
Here is a photo of my ballast in the Gorge.


Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

Dean Smith
 

Here is a photo of my ballast in the Gorge.


Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

Dean Smith
 

For what it's worth, here is the "recipe" I use on my HOn3 layout for mainline ballast (all are Woodland Scenics ballasts):  1 part fine light gray, 2 parts fine gray, and 2 parts medium gray.  I also plan to use this basic recipe for all of Cranberry as well.   For spurs I add in fine dirt, and the logging spurs are all dirt. I lightly weather everything with an India Ink/alcohol wash. I am considering using cinders at Johnson City and would appreciate feedback on this idea. Overall, I like to keep my colors on the light side, and these ballasts reflect the colors in the Gorge and the tailing piles at Cranberry.   

 


Re: Switch Stands and Ballast color

Chris Ford
 

The ET had ballast?    :)

Kidding, of course. I'd say most of the ballast we've seen on hikes is tailings from the mine...which included a lot of black. But it also seemed to be on the small side compared to ballast we'd see on a "standardl" railroad. Some medium and dark gray mixed in with the black. Think of the rock colors you see over at Cranberry and that's the color of the ballast. I suspect they used that for ballast almost from the get-go once the ROW made it over to Cranberry. After the mine shut down in 1930 they may not have done a lot of ballast work on the RR, but there were plenty of tailings to be had even after the mine was closed for the RR and for the highways.

Don't know anything about brands and types of switch stands, but here's a great photo of one on the cover of a Stemwinder here...

cfordart.com/stemwinders/10-2Stemwinder1997.pdf

This photo was from 1950, so someone much more knowledgeable about such matters may know if they used a different type in the early days. The one in this photo at Elk Park scales out to be right at 6 ft tall. Once again, there may have been other stands that were different....don't know.

Have a good weekend!



Chris

 
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Chris Ford
President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
------------------------
www.cfordart.com

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 07:49:48 -0700, "Chris Jessee via groups.io" <cj8n@...> wrote:
 
Does anyone know what type & size of switch stands were used on the ET?  
Any suggestions for sources for HO scale switch stands?  I plan on using PECO switches with no motors and just hand flip them as most switches will be accessible. 

What color and coarseness of ballast would be appropriate for the ET? 
Any suggestions of manufacturer that makes a good match?

Thank you, 
Chris Jessee


Re: Oops!

 

Mike,
What a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Best,
Lee

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On Friday, July 10, 2020, Mike Hartsook <michaelkeithhar@...> wrote:

GREAT PICTURES, I HUMPED IT WHEN I WAS A KID, ME AND SOME FRIENDS OF MINE WOULD HUMP IT FROM THE MAUPIN ROW COMMUNITY ALL THE WAY TO THE OLD ROCK QUARRY AT MILLIGAN, AND BACK, IT SEEMED TO TAKE FOREVER TO WALK TO THE OLD ROCK QUARRY, AND THIS WAS IN THE SUMMER TIME I KNEW WHEN THE ETWNC TRAIN WOULD USELY RUN, IF I HEARD THE TRAIN COMING I WOULD HIDE BECAUSE MY GREAT UNCLE EARL MCKINNEY WOULD TELL MY MOTHER OR MY GRANDMA I WAS AT THE ROCK QUARRY HE DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT WAS DANGEROUS. I WAS 14 YEARS OLD THIS WAS IN THE MIDDLE 1970'S, 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 10:08 PM Tom Grabenstein <tomgmd@...> wrote:
Very nice. The trail is quite inviting. I will have to hoof it some day. Doc Tom

On Jul 4, 2020, at 6:48 PM, John Overman via groups.io <jmoverma@...> wrote:

Sorry for the repeat messages. I am still learning how to send messages in this group. Here are the pictures from today. 
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