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new ET engine

C Ford <cfordart@...>
 

Hey y'all,
If somebody gets a good photo, not a slide, I'll be glad to put it on my
web site in a large size, and put your name on it too (the photo, not the
engine :)

Let me know.

Chris


-----------------------
Chris Ford
cfordart@mindspring.com

http://www.mindspring.com/~cfordart/etwnc/home.html
Re: Piggyback flatcars w/tailers

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Chris,

Okay, got it,...HOn3 it is!

Phread

C Ford wrote:

From: C Ford <cfordart@mindspring.com>

fred1945@bellatlantic.net
Fred,
I'll buy a couple of HOn3 kits, put me down as a customer.

Thanks
Chris

-----------------------
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http://www.mindspring.com/~cfordart/etwnc/home.html

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Re: Piggyback flatcars w/tailers

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Chris,

Disregard previous messages (never get right out of bed and try to operate
your PC).

Phread

C Ford wrote:

From: C Ford <cfordart@mindspring.com>

fred1945@bellatlantic.net
Fred,
I'll buy a couple of HOn3 kits, put me down as a customer.

Thanks
Chris

-----------------------
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http://www.mindspring.com/~cfordart/etwnc/home.html

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Piggyback loading/unloading

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Can anyone provide any info., drawings on ET & WNC RR Piggyback loading
and unloading facilities?

Phread
Re: Piggyback loading/unloading

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

John,

I'd guess you're probably pretty close to the mark. It's obvious they were
loaded.unloaded one at a time, based on the configuration and design of the
cars. If you come across any additional information, please let me know.

Phread

John Waite wrote:

From: John Waite <jwaite@dragon.desoto.k12.mo.us>

I have never seen any photos of it. Would bet there was some sort of
portable metal ramp with two tracks.

John Waite Technology Coordinator
De Soto Public Schools De Soto, MO 63020
Work: 1-314-586-1005 Home: 1-314-586-4573
E-Mail: jwaite@dragon.desoto.k12.mo.us
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Re: Piggyback loading/unloading

Ken Riddle <ken290@...>
 

Jim Hobbs would know how they unloaded those piggyback cars most likely.

----------
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: Piggyback loading/unloading
Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 7:50 PM

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

John,

I'd guess you're probably pretty close to the mark. It's obvious they
were
loaded.unloaded one at a time, based on the configuration and design of
the
cars. If you come across any additional information, please let me know.

Phread

John Waite wrote:

From: John Waite <jwaite@dragon.desoto.k12.mo.us>

I have never seen any photos of it. Would bet there was some sort of
portable metal ramp with two tracks.

John Waite Technology Coordinator
De Soto Public Schools De Soto, MO 63020
Work: 1-314-586-1005 Home: 1-314-586-4573
E-Mail: jwaite@dragon.desoto.k12.mo.us
vdd000@pop.connect.more.net

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Re: Piggyback loading/unloading

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Ken

Does he have E-mail? If so please advise. If not can you provide a Snail-mail
address?

Phread

Ken Riddle wrote:

From: "Ken Riddle" <ken290@Traveller.COM>

Jim Hobbs would know how they unloaded those piggyback cars most likely.

----------
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: Piggyback loading/unloading
Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 7:50 PM

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

John,

I'd guess you're probably pretty close to the mark. It's obvious they
were
loaded.unloaded one at a time, based on the configuration and design of
the
cars. If you come across any additional information, please let me know.

Phread

John Waite wrote:

From: John Waite <jwaite@dragon.desoto.k12.mo.us>

I have never seen any photos of it. Would bet there was some sort of
portable metal ramp with two tracks.

John Waite Technology Coordinator
De Soto Public Schools De Soto, MO 63020
Work: 1-314-586-1005 Home: 1-314-586-4573
E-Mail: jwaite@dragon.desoto.k12.mo.us
vdd000@pop.connect.more.net

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Re: Piggyback loading/unloading

Ken Riddle <ken290@...>
 

I don't know but Johnny Graybeal would--

are you frozen up there in Boone Johnny?!?

----------
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: Piggyback loading/unloading
Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 8:39 PM

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Ken

Does he have E-mail? If so please advise. If not can you provide a
Snail-mail
address?

Phread

Ken Riddle wrote:

From: "Ken Riddle" <ken290@Traveller.COM>

Jim Hobbs would know how they unloaded those piggyback cars most
likely.

----------
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: Piggyback loading/unloading
Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 7:50 PM

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

John,

I'd guess you're probably pretty close to the mark. It's obvious
they
were
loaded.unloaded one at a time, based on the configuration and design
of
the
cars. If you come across any additional information, please let me
know.

Phread

John Waite wrote:

From: John Waite <jwaite@dragon.desoto.k12.mo.us>

I have never seen any photos of it. Would bet there was some sort
of
portable metal ramp with two tracks.

John Waite Technology Coordinator
De Soto Public Schools De Soto, MO 63020
Work: 1-314-586-1005 Home: 1-314-586-4573
E-Mail: jwaite@dragon.desoto.k12.mo.us
vdd000@pop.connect.more.net

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ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Announcement:

Come on all you Eastern Narrow Gauge fansand modelers, I know you're out
there? There is a possibility of getting a "Limited Run" kit of the
East Tennessee & Western North Carolina Railroad's Piggyback flatcars
produced, with trailer, by Jim King of Smoky Mountain Model Works. It
is being considered in both HOn3 and On3 for the time being.

For those who want to know what they look like, please refer to the
October '94 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman magazine. The article, by
George R. Gilbert, is on page 74.

All those interested in this kit please contact me off-line at
"fred1945@bellatlantic.net" so I can add you to the survey I'm running
for the manufacturer. Please be sure to indicate whether interested in
HOn3 or On3 scale models, as well as an approximate quantity you'd be
interested in.

This will in no way obligate anyone, but it will give Jim some idea of
how many to produce if it turns out to be feasible to produce it as a
"Limited Run" type kit. If enough interest is generated, maybe it'll
end up as a "stock" item?

Come on guys, contact me so we can get this kit produced,...an
opportunity like this doesn't come around all that often these days!

Fred "Phread" Voelcker, Jr.
fred1945@bellatlantic.net
Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

MICHAEL BASKETTE <carworks@...>
 

Fred,

Are you polling anywhere else besides SEMRA and Tweetsie Lists. I would imagine the audience is only about 250-350 people combined. Might be why the responses are light. Again I am potentially interested in this model.

Mike Baskette
On both lists
Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Mike,

I'm posting this in as many places as I can think of, including the AOL
MRR board, thanks to Bob Eckerfield's help. How many would you like to
get, and what scale?

Phread

MICHAEL BASKETTE wrote:

Fred, Are you polling anywhere else besides SEMRA and Tweetsie Lists.
I would imagine the audience is only about 250-350 people combined.
Might be why the responses are light. Again I am potentially
interested in this model. Mike BasketteOn both lists
Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

MICHAEL BASKETTE <carworks@...>
 

Potentially about three if it all looks good. Oh yes in HOn3. Honestly speaking, I don't want any until I see the kit. Not trying to be smart, but this is an old resin buying guideline of mine from years of military modeling. I've bought a lot and would only have bought about 60% of the ones I purchased sight unseen were it mine to look at first. I've seen the other Smoky Mountain kits and the have looked really nice. I just seem to end up with the one that sat in a UPS truck in August for 15 hours and strain relieved itself into a bunch of warped parts if I just order one blind. His kits are highly touted so I doubt seriously there would be a problem.

Mike
Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Mike,

Many thanks, "3" in HOn3 for the survey.

Cheers,

Phread

<Potentially about three if it all looks good. Oh yes in HOn3.
Honestly speaking, I don't want any until I see the kit. Not trying to
be smart, but this is an old resin buying guideline of mine from years
of military modeling. I've bought a lot and would only have bought
about 60% of the ones I purchased sight unseen were it mine to look at
first. I've seen the other Smoky Mountain kits and the have looked
really nice. I just seem to end up with the one that sat in a UPS
truck in August for 15 hours and strain relieved itself into a bunch
of warped parts if I just order one blind. His kits are highly touted
so I doubt seriously there would be a problem.>
Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

johnny graybeal
 

To throw a bit of history into all of this, the ET&WNC had a total of three
of these cars. In fact, one of the cars was longer than the other two, to
allow for a longer trailer. There were only two ramps that I know of, in
Johnson City and Boone. Like John Waite, I do not know exactly what they
looked like. A dead end track up to a ramp would make sense. I am
interested in the HO n3 version, but like the man earlier, seeing is
believing. Everything Jim has done before has looked good , but I will
admit I haven't bought any. Too many other things take my money, like a
house.
Johnny graybeal

-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:32 AM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars


From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Mike,

Many thanks, "3" in HOn3 for the survey.

Cheers,

Phread


<Potentially about three if it all looks good. Oh yes in HOn3.
Honestly speaking, I don't want any until I see the kit. Not trying to
be smart, but this is an old resin buying guideline of mine from years
of military modeling. I've bought a lot and would only have bought
about 60% of the ones I purchased sight unseen were it mine to look at
first. I've seen the other Smoky Mountain kits and the have looked
really nice. I just seem to end up with the one that sat in a UPS
truck in August for 15 hours and strain relieved itself into a bunch
of warped parts if I just order one blind. His kits are highly touted
so I doubt seriously there would be a problem.>

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Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Johnny,

1 or 2, in HOn3?

Phread

johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@boone.net>

To throw a bit of history into all of this, the ET&WNC had a total of three
of these cars. In fact, one of the cars was longer than the other two, to
allow for a longer trailer. There were only two ramps that I know of, in
Johnson City and Boone. Like John Waite, I do not know exactly what they
looked like. A dead end track up to a ramp would make sense. I am
interested in the HO n3 version, but like the man earlier, seeing is
believing. Everything Jim has done before has looked good , but I will
admit I haven't bought any. Too many other things take my money, like a
house.
Johnny graybeal
-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:32 AM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Mike,

Many thanks, "3" in HOn3 for the survey.

Cheers,

Phread


<Potentially about three if it all looks good. Oh yes in HOn3.
Honestly speaking, I don't want any until I see the kit. Not trying to
be smart, but this is an old resin buying guideline of mine from years
of military modeling. I've bought a lot and would only have bought
about 60% of the ones I purchased sight unseen were it mine to look at
first. I've seen the other Smoky Mountain kits and the have looked
really nice. I just seem to end up with the one that sat in a UPS
truck in August for 15 hours and strain relieved itself into a bunch
of warped parts if I just order one blind. His kits are highly touted
so I doubt seriously there would be a problem.>

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Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

johnny graybeal
 

Right now, just one in HO
johnny graybeal

-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 3:29 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars


From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Johnny,

1 or 2, in HOn3?

Phread

johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@boone.net>

To throw a bit of history into all of this, the ET&WNC had a total of
three
of these cars. In fact, one of the cars was longer than the other two,
to
allow for a longer trailer. There were only two ramps that I know of, in
Johnson City and Boone. Like John Waite, I do not know exactly what they
looked like. A dead end track up to a ramp would make sense. I am
interested in the HO n3 version, but like the man earlier, seeing is
believing. Everything Jim has done before has looked good , but I will
admit I haven't bought any. Too many other things take my money, like a
house.
Johnny graybeal
-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:32 AM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Mike,

Many thanks, "3" in HOn3 for the survey.

Cheers,

Phread


<Potentially about three if it all looks good. Oh yes in HOn3.
Honestly speaking, I don't want any until I see the kit. Not trying to
be smart, but this is an old resin buying guideline of mine from years
of military modeling. I've bought a lot and would only have bought
about 60% of the ones I purchased sight unseen were it mine to look at
first. I've seen the other Smoky Mountain kits and the have looked
really nice. I just seem to end up with the one that sat in a UPS
truck in August for 15 hours and strain relieved itself into a bunch
of warped parts if I just order one blind. His kits are highly touted
so I doubt seriously there would be a problem.>

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Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

johnny graybeal
 

Only the materials that John waite has already printed in a stemwinder not
so very long ago. check with him. To my knowledge not photos of the
unloading facilities exist.

-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 7:26 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars


From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Johnny,

Many thanks, 1 car in HOn3. If you should somehow come across any data on
the
loading/unloading facilities, please advise? Are there any photos or
drawings
of the piggyback flat cars that you know of?

Phread

johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@boone.net>

Right now, just one in HO
johnny graybeal
-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 3:29 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Johnny,

1 or 2, in HOn3?

Phread

johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@boone.net>

To throw a bit of history into all of this, the ET&WNC had a total of
three
of these cars. In fact, one of the cars was longer than the other
two,
to
allow for a longer trailer. There were only two ramps that I know of,
in
Johnson City and Boone. Like John Waite, I do not know exactly what
they
looked like. A dead end track up to a ramp would make sense. I am
interested in the HO n3 version, but like the man earlier, seeing is
believing. Everything Jim has done before has looked good , but I
will
admit I haven't bought any. Too many other things take my money, like
a
house.
Johnny graybeal
-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:32 AM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Mike,

Many thanks, "3" in HOn3 for the survey.

Cheers,

Phread


<Potentially about three if it all looks good. Oh yes in HOn3.
Honestly speaking, I don't want any until I see the kit. Not trying
to
be smart, but this is an old resin buying guideline of mine from
years
of military modeling. I've bought a lot and would only have bought
about 60% of the ones I purchased sight unseen were it mine to look
at
first. I've seen the other Smoky Mountain kits and the have looked
really nice. I just seem to end up with the one that sat in a UPS
truck in August for 15 hours and strain relieved itself into a
bunch
of warped parts if I just order one blind. His kits are highly
touted
so I doubt seriously there would be a problem.>
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Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Johnny,

Many thanks, 1 car in HOn3. If you should somehow come across any data on the
loading/unloading facilities, please advise? Are there any photos or drawings
of the piggyback flat cars that you know of?

Phread

johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@boone.net>

Right now, just one in HO
johnny graybeal
-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 3:29 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Johnny,

1 or 2, in HOn3?

Phread

johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@boone.net>

To throw a bit of history into all of this, the ET&WNC had a total of
three
of these cars. In fact, one of the cars was longer than the other two,
to
allow for a longer trailer. There were only two ramps that I know of, in
Johnson City and Boone. Like John Waite, I do not know exactly what they
looked like. A dead end track up to a ramp would make sense. I am
interested in the HO n3 version, but like the man earlier, seeing is
believing. Everything Jim has done before has looked good , but I will
admit I haven't bought any. Too many other things take my money, like a
house.
Johnny graybeal
-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:32 AM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Mike,

Many thanks, "3" in HOn3 for the survey.

Cheers,

Phread


<Potentially about three if it all looks good. Oh yes in HOn3.
Honestly speaking, I don't want any until I see the kit. Not trying to
be smart, but this is an old resin buying guideline of mine from years
of military modeling. I've bought a lot and would only have bought
about 60% of the ones I purchased sight unseen were it mine to look at
first. I've seen the other Smoky Mountain kits and the have looked
really nice. I just seem to end up with the one that sat in a UPS
truck in August for 15 hours and strain relieved itself into a bunch
of warped parts if I just order one blind. His kits are highly touted
so I doubt seriously there would be a problem.>

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Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

Phread <fred1945@...>
 

Okay, thanks.

Phread

johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@boone.net>

Only the materials that John waite has already printed in a stemwinder not
so very long ago. check with him. To my knowledge not photos of the
unloading facilities exist.
-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 7:26 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Johnny,

Many thanks, 1 car in HOn3. If you should somehow come across any data on
the
loading/unloading facilities, please advise? Are there any photos or
drawings
of the piggyback flat cars that you know of?

Phread

johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@boone.net>

Right now, just one in HO
johnny graybeal
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From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 3:29 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Johnny,

1 or 2, in HOn3?

Phread

johnny graybeal wrote:

From: "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@boone.net>

To throw a bit of history into all of this, the ET&WNC had a total of
three
of these cars. In fact, one of the cars was longer than the other
two,
to
allow for a longer trailer. There were only two ramps that I know of,
in
Johnson City and Boone. Like John Waite, I do not know exactly what
they
looked like. A dead end track up to a ramp would make sense. I am
interested in the HO n3 version, but like the man earlier, seeing is
believing. Everything Jim has done before has looked good , but I
will
admit I haven't bought any. Too many other things take my money, like
a
house.
Johnny graybeal
-----Original Message-----
From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>
To: Tweetsie@onelist.com <Tweetsie@onelist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:32 AM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: ET & WNC Piggyback flatcars

From: Phread <fred1945@bellatlantic.net>

Mike,

Many thanks, "3" in HOn3 for the survey.

Cheers,

Phread


<Potentially about three if it all looks good. Oh yes in HOn3.
Honestly speaking, I don't want any until I see the kit. Not trying
to
be smart, but this is an old resin buying guideline of mine from
years
of military modeling. I've bought a lot and would only have bought
about 60% of the ones I purchased sight unseen were it mine to look
at
first. I've seen the other Smoky Mountain kits and the have looked
really nice. I just seem to end up with the one that sat in a UPS
truck in August for 15 hours and strain relieved itself into a
bunch
of warped parts if I just order one blind. His kits are highly
touted
so I doubt seriously there would be a problem.>
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Re: Piggyback loading/unloading

John Waite <jwaite@...
 

I have never seen any photos of it. Would bet there was some sort of
portable metal ramp with two tracks.

John Waite Technology Coordinator
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