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Re: Train dispatching and operations on the ET&WNC
Dean Smith
Lee,
As far as I know, the freight trains were run as extras, and the locomotive
number was used as the number of the train. For example, a train order
would be written out to “Ex 11.” The written order of the last train order
read, “Eng 11 Run Extra Elizabethton to Cranberry & Return”. The July,
August, September 1995 issue (Issue 8-1) of the Blue Ridge Stemwinder
contains an article about the Train Conductor Train Book and how it was
filled out. I used these examples when I planned freight train movements
on the Vida Division.
Passenger trains had numbers. One timetable from 1925 lists passenger
trains 1-4. This is how I run passenger trains on the Vida Division:
Passenger Train 1 leaves Boone at 6:30 am and arrives at Johnson City at 10:50
am. It then lays over at Johnson City until it leaves as Passenger Train 4
at 1:00 pm. It is due back in Boone at 4:54 pm. A second passenger
train runs Johnson City to Boone and return at Passenger Trains 2 and
3.
I am attaching copies of a couple of train orders, a page from my Freight
Conductor’s Train Book, a prototype timetable, and the timetable from the Vida
Division.
I hope this information helps. There are many members of the
Historical Society who know way more than I do about train operation, and I’m
sure they will be able to help you as well.
Dean
From: Lee Bishop
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2022 1:13 PM
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Subject: [ETWNC] Train dispatching and operations on the
ET&WNC I
was wondering if anyone has done research into how freight trains were
dispatched by the RR and if they had train numbers or designations. So, for
someone with a (pre-1950) ET&WNC layout, how would they designate trains in
either direction? Or were they all just done with train orders with no
scheduling for freights, with train designations? I'd love to label my own layout trains by train designations but I've never seen anything that goes into how they dispatched freights. The passenger trains are pretty well documented by timetables, but I'm not even sure if they had train numbers (though they must have had as they ran fixed schedules)... -- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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Train dispatching and operations on the ET&WNC
I was wondering if anyone has done research into how freight trains were dispatched by the RR and if they had train numbers or designations. So, for someone with a (pre-1950) ET&WNC layout, how would they designate trains in either direction? Or were they all just done with train orders with no scheduling for freights, with train designations?
I'd love to label my own layout trains by train designations but I've never seen anything that goes into how they dispatched freights. The passenger trains are pretty well documented by timetables, but I'm not even sure if they had train numbers (though they must have had as they ran fixed schedules)... -- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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Re: Carpentery work on the On30 ET&WNC layout's structures. From Dr Tom
Tom Grabenstein
Thank you Lee,Dean,and Bill. Your support means a lot.
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Yes, Dean, the bug eyed carpenter perched on the roof is a bit frightened of heights and is having an advanced Adrenaline (epinephrine) rush Dr Tom
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Re: Carpentery work on the On30 ET&WNC layout's structures. From Dr Tom
William Uffelman
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Re: Carpentery work on the On30 ET&WNC layout's structures. From Dr Tom
Dean Smith
Wonderful work, as always! Keep telling those stories. I love
the look in the roofer’s eyes.
Dean
From: Lee Bishop
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 8:31 PM
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ETWNC] Carpentery work on the On30 ET&WNC layout's
structures. From Dr Tom Looks
great, as your work always does! -- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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Re: Carpentery work on the On30 ET&WNC layout's structures. From Dr Tom
Looks great, as your work always does!
-- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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Carpentery work on the On30 ET&WNC layout's structures. From Dr Tom
Tom Grabenstein
Hello,
Here is a little update for y’all. Carpenters have been busy putting roofs on the multiple angles of the Cranberry Iron Ore mine concentrator and tipple.   Carpenter's work is also getting done as framing is going up for a line side shed for the workers at the water column and engine service track in the Johnson City RR yard.   Thanks for looking. Doc Tom
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Re: YouTube program on model train photography, ET&WNC centered
Dean Smith
Lee,
I just watched your clinic on YouTube. Excellent job all around,
showcasing the quality of your modeling, your photography, and your actual
presentation. I love your old-school approach. I learned a lot and
plan on trying some new things with my Canon. I’ll save my specific
questions for another time.
I am really looking forward to meeting you in person and visiting your
layout in September. I hope Jacob Wright attends. I have chatted
with him virtually, and he is a real up and comer.
Thank you for presenting our favorite railroad in such a favorable
light!
Dean
From: Lee Bishop
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:27 PM
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ETWNC] YouTube program on model train photography,
ET&WNC centered Thanks,
Doc Tom. I have quite a bit of ET&WNC wearables these days, what
with the stuff that's come out in the past couple of years or so... -- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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Re: YouTube program on model train photography, ET&WNC centered
Thanks, Doc Tom. I have quite a bit of ET&WNC wearables these days, what with the stuff that's come out in the past couple of years or so...
-- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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HOn3 Annual is out!
I just got the 2021 HOn3 Annual (yeah, I know it's not 2021 anymore, but one guy edits them all so let's cut the man some slack). There's an excellent article by Johnny about general structures for the ET&WNC, a great article on engine facilities modelled at the Johnson City layout. Dean Smith also has a great article on the dispatcher desk on his ET&WNC layout.
It doesn't matter if you model in another scale (or maybe don't even model at all), there's a lot of great ET&WNC info in this one! Great job, everyone. -- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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Re: YouTube program on model train photography, ET&WNC centered
Tom Grabenstein
Lee,this was really good. I liked all the cell phone shots. The B&W pictures were also quite nice. Thanks for sharing this with all of us. Enjoyed seeing you decked out in your ET&WNC swag too. Doc Tom
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YouTube program on model train photography, ET&WNC centered
I did a talk about model train photography, which the local NMRA region asked for so they could record it.
https://youtu.be/flMlzCbfxW8
I found it funny how they kept my comments about the NMRA calendar...
-- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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Re: Grade crossing
Thanks, guys.
Dr Tom, the curve keeps going that direction, the camera wasn't on the tracks. Dean, I consider your layout, mine and Dr Tom's to exist in the same alternate reality. In my minds' eye, trains on my layout pass through both your layouts at some point on their way to either Cranberry or Johnson City. The funny thing about my layout's location is that each time I get published somewhere, the editor will often get at least one email from someone in the Blue Ridge area, asking if they can come visit. A few gets passed on to me, often with a humorous comment (the last one said, "Do you wanna tell this guy he'll have to drive thousand of miles, or should I?"). That, and people who stumble across my info somewhere, caused me to create a form response explaining I am about as far from Tweetsie Country as I can be and still be in the Continental US. Let's face it; most people model something local to them (or in my case, an area I knew from my youth, though in my case taking place many years before I was born), so people generally expect that if I model the ET&WNC, well, i must live somewhere nearby. that's a fair assumption. -- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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Re: Grade crossing
William Uffelman
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Re: Grade crossing
Dean Smith
Lee,
What a realistic looking scene! Beautiful job. Thanks for
sharing. It’s hard to believe that the Stoney Creek Branch and the
ET&WNC RR in On30 are separated by over half the country. One could
easily believe they are just on the other side of a mountain and across a hollow
in the Blue Ridge.
Dean
From: Tom Grabenstein
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 8:00 AM
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [ETWNC] Grade crossing A
wonderful B&W picture. The photographer captured the whistle blast of steam
nicely, but he better get off the tracks soon.
Doc Tom
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Re: Grade crossing
Tom Grabenstein
A wonderful B&W picture. The photographer captured the whistle blast of steam nicely, but he better get off the tracks soon.
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Grade crossing
ET&WNC 11 takes a short commuter train past the Grindstaff store at Sadie, TN, blowing the grade crossing where the photographer is standing...
 -- Lee Bishop Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30
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Re: The little Rail Road helps build California.
Tom Grabenstein
Very good ideas. You can get a feel for how labor intensive Narrow Gauge railroading was. Especially at the interchange with the Standard Gauge operations of the rest of the United States. I am going to have to order some LP and get to painting them.
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Re: The little Rail Road helps build California.
William Uffelman
Need a crew of 4 or more LP to transfer the lumber between the cars - 2 on each car passing boards across the open space. Load visible in door of the NG car and two in door of SG car receiving each board to be stacked. A board "in transit" across the open space, one LP attached the each end of the board would allow scene to be set up as needed by opening the doors and dropping them in. Other people fixed in the two cars.
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Re: The little Rail Road helps build California.
Tom Grabenstein
Thank you Bill and Dean for the kind messages. I’m having way too much fun in retirement working on this railroad. More to come. Dr. Tom
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