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Re: NG convention in 2022?

johnny graybeal
 

I plan on being there. Would love to see  your layout.
Johnny Graybeal


Re: NG convention in 2022?

Dan Stenger
 

Tentatively, yes.  I would love to visit your layout if we can attended.

Dan Stenger


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From: "Lee Bishop"
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday March 3 2020 6:15:44PM
Subject: [ETWNC] NG convention in 2022?

Okay, I know it's insanely early to ask, but is anyone looking to come to the Seattle/Tacoma WA area for the 2022 NG convention?
Lots of steam between the Seattle and Portland areas, and a lot of class 1 traffic.
There are several narrow gauge layouts in the region as well.
As far as I know I'm the only ET&WNC modeler in the region, but if anyone here is coming, let me know. My layout is pretty small but I'd love for anyone who really knows the ET&WNC to see it in person (it might be on the layout tours, as one of the organizers is a pal of mine and already pushing me to offer up the layout for tours and to put on at least one clinic)...
--
Lee Bishop
Owner, Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30 gauge


NG convention in 2022?

Lee Bishop
 

Okay, I know it's insanely early to ask, but is anyone looking to come to the Seattle/Tacoma WA area for the 2022 NG convention?
Lots of steam between the Seattle and Portland areas, and a lot of class 1 traffic.
There are several narrow gauge layouts in the region as well.
As far as I know I'm the only ET&WNC modeler in the region, but if anyone here is coming, let me know. My layout is pretty small but I'd love for anyone who really knows the ET&WNC to see it in person (it might be on the layout tours, as one of the organizers is a pal of mine and already pushing me to offer up the layout for tours and to put on at least one clinic)...
--
Lee Bishop
Owner, Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30 gauge


Re: Asheville Train show and 41st NNGC

Steve Austin <sea110947@...>
 

This weekend. Friday 12-7, Saturday 9-5. Fletcher, across the highway from the Asheville airport.

Come see the Country RRoads Modular layout.

Steve Austin


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 7:49 PM Chris Ford <chris@...> wrote:
When is the Asheville Train Show Johnny?

 
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Chris Ford
President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
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www.cfordart.com

On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:40:03 -0800, "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@...> wrote:
 
My apologies for any cross posts.
Hello everyone,
I will be set up at the Asheville Train Show Friday and Saturday, to promote the ET&WNC RR and to promote the Hickory National Narrow Gauge Convention, coming in less than a year and a half to Hickory NC. I welcome anyone in this group to come by and talk to me about the convention and what you can do to participate. I look forward to meeting many of you over the next year.
Johnny Graybeal
41st NNGC Committee Chairman 


Re: Asheville Train show and 41st NNGC

Chris Ford
 

When is the Asheville Train Show Johnny?

 
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Chris Ford
President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
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www.cfordart.com

On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 16:40:03 -0800, "johnny graybeal" <johnnyg@...> wrote:
 
My apologies for any cross posts.
Hello everyone,
I will be set up at the Asheville Train Show Friday and Saturday, to promote the ET&WNC RR and to promote the Hickory National Narrow Gauge Convention, coming in less than a year and a half to Hickory NC. I welcome anyone in this group to come by and talk to me about the convention and what you can do to participate. I look forward to meeting many of you over the next year.
Johnny Graybeal
41st NNGC Committee Chairman 


Asheville Train show and 41st NNGC

johnny graybeal
 

My apologies for any cross posts.
Hello everyone,
I will be set up at the Asheville Train Show Friday and Saturday, to promote the ET&WNC RR and to promote the Hickory National Narrow Gauge Convention, coming in less than a year and a half to Hickory NC. I welcome anyone in this group to come by and talk to me about the convention and what you can do to participate. I look forward to meeting many of you over the next year.
Johnny Graybeal
41st NNGC Committee Chairman 


Growing a Forest at Linville North Carolina on the ET&WNC RR

Tom Grabenstein
 

  • Helga and Heidi from Germany are moving to Linville North Carolina. Being rather affluent, they have their brand-new T-Model in tow behind the ET&WNC RR passenger train.



    Conductor Cy Crumley knows just the place outside of Linville to let then get a good glimpse of the Blue Ridge Mountains.





    While quite a stunning view, Heidi would rather play in the car.



    These are some of the many trees I've been working on this weekend to give the layout a mountainous look.



    The layout has sure come a long way from the blue foam stage.



    Thanks for looking.

    Doc Tom



  • Re: Little People come to Linville. With the help of the

    Tom Grabenstein
     

    Thank you all for following along with this project. Dr Tom


    On Feb 21, 2020, at 8:26 PM, William Uffelman via Groups.Io <ufffam@...> wrote:

    Nicely done!

    Bill Uffelman


    On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:12 PM, Tom Grabenstein
    <tomgmd@...> wrote:
    I thought I would switch tracks this week and make some little people to populate the Linville LDE.

    I started with everyone's favorite “Tweetsie” engineer, Mr. Sherman Pippin.



    Shapeways 3-D printing makes a very nice rendition of this iconic figure. With paint, paint washes, and dry brushing I created my model of Mr. Pippin.



    I did not want to stop with Mr. P and have attempted a recreation of Mr. Cy Crumley, a beloved conductor on the ET&WNC RR. Here are Messers Pippin and Crumley posing in classic railroad photos with two friends from Germany Helga and Heidi (Orange plastic Preiser figures with paint jobs.).







    Shapeways was nice enough to make a working man Mr Pippin shoveling coal.So I put him to work.



    The story goes that Mr. Pippin, always a kind gentleman, offered to shovel coal for Fireman Fred when his back was out. All Fred had to do was drive the locomotive. Sherman did holler some instructions to Fred above the noise of the panting locomotive.





    Thanks for looking. Doc Tom


    Re: ET&WNC #207 & #208 1962-63 photos posted

    Andy
     

    Hi Lee,
    Yes, I am also a member on that discussion group.   I forgot to mention the gentleman also posted color 1962 photos of 192 in Rebel Railroad paint along with 1965 photos of Tweetsie #12 and #192 in two other paint schemes.

    Andy 

    http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,389431


    Re: Little People come to Linville. With the help of the ET&WNC RR.

    Julia Williams Kodak
     

    These are wonderful!!


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Mark Lewis <narrowrails12@...>
    To: ETWNC <ETWNC@groups.io>
    Sent: Fri, Feb 21, 2020 9:28 pm
    Subject: Re: [ETWNC] Little People come to Linville. With the help of the ET&WNC RR.

    The figures look great, Dr.Tom.

    Mark Lewis 
    Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

    On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 9:12 PM Tom Grabenstein <tomgmd@...> wrote:
    I thought I would switch tracks this week and make some little people to populate the Linville LDE.

    I started with everyone's favorite “Tweetsie” engineer, Mr. Sherman Pippin.



    Shapeways 3-D printing makes a very nice rendition of this iconic figure. With paint, paint washes, and dry brushing I created my model of Mr. Pippin.



    I did not want to stop with Mr. P and have attempted a recreation of Mr. Cy Crumley, a beloved conductor on the ET&WNC RR. Here are Messers Pippin and Crumley posing in classic railroad photos with two friends from Germany Helga and Heidi (Orange plastic Preiser figures with paint jobs.).







    Shapeways was nice enough to make a working man Mr Pippin shoveling coal.So I put him to work.



    The story goes that Mr. Pippin, always a kind gentleman, offered to shovel coal for Fireman Fred when his back was out. All Fred had to do was drive the locomotive. Sherman did holler some instructions to Fred above the noise of the panting locomotive.





    Thanks for looking. Doc Tom


    Re: Little People come to Linville. With the help of the ET&WNC RR.

    Mark Lewis
     

    The figures look great, Dr.Tom.

    Mark Lewis 
    Narrow gauge modeling in N.C.

    On Fri, Feb 21, 2020, 9:12 PM Tom Grabenstein <tomgmd@...> wrote:
    I thought I would switch tracks this week and make some little people to populate the Linville LDE.

    I started with everyone's favorite “Tweetsie” engineer, Mr. Sherman Pippin.



    Shapeways 3-D printing makes a very nice rendition of this iconic figure. With paint, paint washes, and dry brushing I created my model of Mr. Pippin.



    I did not want to stop with Mr. P and have attempted a recreation of Mr. Cy Crumley, a beloved conductor on the ET&WNC RR. Here are Messers Pippin and Crumley posing in classic railroad photos with two friends from Germany Helga and Heidi (Orange plastic Preiser figures with paint jobs.).







    Shapeways was nice enough to make a working man Mr Pippin shoveling coal.So I put him to work.



    The story goes that Mr. Pippin, always a kind gentleman, offered to shovel coal for Fireman Fred when his back was out. All Fred had to do was drive the locomotive. Sherman did holler some instructions to Fred above the noise of the panting locomotive.





    Thanks for looking. Doc Tom


    Re: Little People come to Linville. With the help of the

    William Uffelman
     

    Nicely done!

    Bill Uffelman


    On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:12 PM, Tom Grabenstein
    <tomgmd@...> wrote:
    I thought I would switch tracks this week and make some little people to populate the Linville LDE.

    I started with everyone's favorite “Tweetsie” engineer, Mr. Sherman Pippin.



    Shapeways 3-D printing makes a very nice rendition of this iconic figure. With paint, paint washes, and dry brushing I created my model of Mr. Pippin.



    I did not want to stop with Mr. P and have attempted a recreation of Mr. Cy Crumley, a beloved conductor on the ET&WNC RR. Here are Messers Pippin and Crumley posing in classic railroad photos with two friends from Germany Helga and Heidi (Orange plastic Preiser figures with paint jobs.).







    Shapeways was nice enough to make a working man Mr Pippin shoveling coal.So I put him to work.



    The story goes that Mr. Pippin, always a kind gentleman, offered to shovel coal for Fireman Fred when his back was out. All Fred had to do was drive the locomotive. Sherman did holler some instructions to Fred above the noise of the panting locomotive.





    Thanks for looking. Doc Tom


    Little People come to Linville. With the help of the ET&WNC RR.

    Tom Grabenstein
     

    I thought I would switch tracks this week and make some little people to populate the Linville LDE.

    I started with everyone's favorite “Tweetsie” engineer, Mr. Sherman Pippin.



    Shapeways 3-D printing makes a very nice rendition of this iconic figure. With paint, paint washes, and dry brushing I created my model of Mr. Pippin.



    I did not want to stop with Mr. P and have attempted a recreation of Mr. Cy Crumley, a beloved conductor on the ET&WNC RR. Here are Messers Pippin and Crumley posing in classic railroad photos with two friends from Germany Helga and Heidi (Orange plastic Preiser figures with paint jobs.).







    Shapeways was nice enough to make a working man Mr Pippin shoveling coal.So I put him to work.



    The story goes that Mr. Pippin, always a kind gentleman, offered to shovel coal for Fireman Fred when his back was out. All Fred had to do was drive the locomotive. Sherman did holler some instructions to Fred above the noise of the panting locomotive.





    Thanks for looking. Doc Tom


    Re: ET&WNC #207 & #208 1962-63 photos posted

    Lee Bishop
     

    Funny, I just saw these a moment ago and was gonna post about them here. Frankly, I'm surprised you don't see more good shots of 207 and 208, given how late they were running....
    --
    Lee Bishop
    Owner, Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC in On30 gauge


    ET&WNC #207 & #208 1962-63 photos posted

    Andy
     
    Edited

    Hi,
    Here's a link to the recently posted color  photos of #207 and #208 on the  NGFD website.  You will need to scroll down to see the photos.  The gentleman also posted a few great Graham County color photos from 1962.

    http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,389431,389464#msg-389464


    Re: Trees are sprouting in Linville in O scale.

    William Uffelman
     

    Quite a green thumb! Looking good.

    Bill Uffelman


    On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 10:01 PM, Tom Grabenstein
    <tomgmd@...> wrote:
    One of the benefits of using foam to build mountains and hills is that, unlike the prototype, they are quite easy to move and lightweight. It was time for some trees on the Linville LDE. So one of the hills was removed to the workbench and trees planted.




    I really got into the swing of things and the next thing you know pine trees and hardwoods were sprouting up all over the place.



    Putting a train into the picture really gave a sense of perspective and distance. Keep in mind that this shelf layout is only 18 inches deep.





    33 trees are in place and a whole heck of a lot more are needed.

    Thank you for looking and all commentary is welcome.

    Dr. Tom


    Trees are sprouting in Linville in O scale.

    Tom Grabenstein
     

    One of the benefits of using foam to build mountains and hills is that, unlike the prototype, they are quite easy to move and lightweight. It was time for some trees on the Linville LDE. So one of the hills was removed to the workbench and trees planted.




    I really got into the swing of things and the next thing you know pine trees and hardwoods were sprouting up all over the place.



    Putting a train into the picture really gave a sense of perspective and distance. Keep in mind that this shelf layout is only 18 inches deep.





    33 trees are in place and a whole heck of a lot more are needed.

    Thank you for looking and all commentary is welcome.

    Dr. Tom


    Re: Why was #12 hated by the ET&WNC Crew?

    johnny graybeal
     

    Several years ago, the last time No. 12 had a  major overhaul at TRR, the damage to the frame from the accident in 1925 was finally repaired. I have heard the comment that No.12 rode harder than the other engines. I will say this. No. 12 was on the JC/Pineola passenger train until her accident. After that she did not work consistently (at least as long as the coal chute reports listed the engine number instead of the train number, which was only a year or so after the '25 accident). It is not much of a logic jump to see that the engine was not the same after the accident. With every thing else being equal, the engines being as close to identical as steam engines can be, an engine that rode hard would quickly become disliked. No. 12 also got a new smoke box. If the set up of the petticoat pipe was off by even a tiny amount, she would have been harder to fire too. I know very well the feeling of trying to fire a locomotive with a bad draft. Finally, the 9 pulled the same passenger train with less coal and ran for months on end. I suspect she was the favorite of Sherman Pippin in the 20s. As the years passed, other engineers and other firemen had their favorites. Asking them decades later which one was their favorite, was their answer their first love, or their last??? Hard to say.


    Re: Why was #12 hated by the ET&WNC Crew?

    Ken Riddle
     

    10 and 14 were the most recently shopped.  The government chose them, not the railroad.  They took a couple of gasoline tank cars as well.

    9 and 11 were offered to each town but they didn’t want them.




    On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Lee Bishop via Groups.Io <leebishop1944@...> wrote:

    I didn't know about the issues with 10 and 14, but that makes sense knowing that they were the ones that went to Alaska during WW2 ("Hey, if we have to send them two of our engines, let's send them those..."). Both were rebuilt by the NP at the South Tacoma shops after one winter in Alaska, and the cabs were moved back. I've always wondered how (or if) their performance improved after that. Sadly, they didn't last too long as they burned in that enginehouse fire at Whitehorse and both were scrapped at the NP yard in Auburn WA after the war.
    I have always wondered why, if 11 was better liked, it wasn't saved. You'd think 11 would be doing loops at Blowing Rock today if things went like you'd have thought they would. Maybe it had something do with whichever engine got the most recent work done before the fires were dropped?
    I'd long read that 11 was offered to either Johnson City of Elizabethton (I've seen each noted) but was turned down. So, the torches came out...


    Re: Why was #12 hated by the ET&WNC Crew?

    Lee Bishop
     

    I didn't know about the issues with 10 and 14, but that makes sense knowing that they were the ones that went to Alaska during WW2 ("Hey, if we have to send them two of our engines, let's send them those..."). Both were rebuilt by the NP at the South Tacoma shops after one winter in Alaska, and the cabs were moved back. I've always wondered how (or if) their performance improved after that. Sadly, they didn't last too long as they burned in that enginehouse fire at Whitehorse and both were scrapped at the NP yard in Auburn WA after the war.
    I have always wondered why, if 11 was better liked, it wasn't saved. You'd think 11 would be doing loops at Blowing Rock today if things went like you'd have thought they would. Maybe it had something do with whichever engine got the most recent work done before the fires were dropped?
    I'd long read that 11 was offered to either Johnson City of Elizabethton (I've seen each noted) but was turned down. So, the torches came out...

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