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Re: Newest issue of Every Time With No Complaint

Lee Bishop
 

Odd, I still dont have mine yet, in the Pacific Northwest...
Lee


Re: 2019 Doe River Gorge Fall Colors weekend

Mike Jackson
 

My wife and I had fun and enjoyed our visit there Sat. Morning. The train ride, the crew and staff were awesome and the food was delicious!  The trip into the Gorge was exciting as always, and we plan to go again next year.
No disappointments from us. 
Mike and Betty Jackson
Johnson City  


On Oct 25, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Mark Milbourne <mark@...> wrote:



Thanks for asking.  Sorry to say kind of a bust this year.   Iffy weather Saturday leading to drizzle / light-rain by mid-afternoon.    Sunday had been forecast to be nice, but the overnight rain lingered into the morning and while things dried out by mid-day, the sun never came out.   Colors also were not very far along, but they are much better this weekend.

 

So we only carried about 400 people total.   But those that did come enjoyed it and we had a good volunteer crew and still had some fun.

 

From: ETWNC@groups.io [mailto:ETWNC@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 7:02 AM
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Subject: [ETWNC] 2019 Doe River Gorge Fall Colors weekend

 

How was the Fall Colors weekend this year, as well as other railroad activities this year at DRG?  


Re: 2019 Doe River Gorge Fall Colors weekend

Mark Milbourne
 

Thanks for asking.  Sorry to say kind of a bust this year.   Iffy weather Saturday leading to drizzle / light-rain by mid-afternoon.    Sunday had been forecast to be nice, but the overnight rain lingered into the morning and while things dried out by mid-day, the sun never came out.   Colors also were not very far along, but they are much better this weekend.

 

So we only carried about 400 people total.   But those that did come enjoyed it and we had a good volunteer crew and still had some fun.

 

From: ETWNC@groups.io [mailto:ETWNC@groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 7:02 AM
To: ETWNC@groups.io
Subject: [ETWNC] 2019 Doe River Gorge Fall Colors weekend

 

How was the Fall Colors weekend this year, as well as other railroad activities this year at DRG?  


2019 Doe River Gorge Fall Colors weekend

Andy
 

How was the Fall Colors weekend this year, as well as other railroad activities this year at DRG?  


Re: Original LR ticket?

Lee Bishop
 

I am wondering the following:
  • What is a Drewry ticket and why does it have so many options? I googled the term but came up with nothing
  • Why is it so large and flimsy?
  • Why do the station stops end at Cranberry? The line still went to Boone in that timeframe in the 30s


Re: Original LR ticket?

Tom Grabenstein
 

What a great find! I enjoyed seeing the special notification on the ticket for clergy and “charity.” Seems they really did care about their customers and provided financial assistance for those who were not so well off. Thanks for sharing. Dr. Tom

On Oct 24, 2019, at 6:03 AM, Michael Hardin <michael_hardin@hotmail.com> wrote:

Lee,
I saw it and it is original. I have several. Did you get the ET one also?
Mike

On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Lee Bishop <leebishop1944@gmail.com> wrote:

Just got this from an ebay win, looks for sure like 1930s paper, not printed off someone's computer.
I'm curious what the rest of you think, as I've never seen one in person before...
Lee
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Re: Original LR ticket?

Lee Bishop
 

No Mike, I missed out on the ET one, got outbid.
I have one of the small cardboard tickets, but I haven't been able to get one of these before now...
Lee


Re: Original LR ticket?

Michael Hardin
 

Lee,
I saw it and it is original. I have several. Did you get the ET one also?
Mike

On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Lee Bishop <leebishop1944@gmail.com> wrote:

Just got this from an ebay win, looks for sure like 1930s paper, not printed off someone's computer.
I'm curious what the rest of you think, as I've never seen one in person before...
Lee
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Original LR ticket?

Lee Bishop
 

Just got this from an ebay win, looks for sure like 1930s paper, not printed off someone's computer.
I'm curious what the rest of you think, as I've never seen one in person before...
Lee


Johnny G pls contact me off-list

Jim King
 

Johnny ... pls contact me off-list via email.  I don't have your current email addy and have a couple questions re: a project I'm working on.  Thx.
--
Jim King
http://smokymountainmodelworks.com


Historical Society Newsletters

Chris Ford
 

All,

The October ET&WNC RR Historical Society Newsletter is in the mail, those of you who are members should receive them early next week. Thank you Curtis for all the latest Society and ET related stories! And thank you Patricia for getting them and the membership cards in the mail in such a timely manner!

Meanwhile, it looks like Johnny Graybeal's latest magazine is out and being received by folks. Thanks Johnny for a very nicely done issue!

All y'all should have plenty to read now that the weather has cooled off.

The newsletters will be posted on the Society website after a bit for those of you who do not get it. If you want to know how you can start receiving these fine publications please go to the Society website at:

http://www.etwncrrhs.org/
Enjoy your weekend!




Chris

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Chris Ford
President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
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www.cfordart.com


Re: Newest issue of Every Time With No Complaint

Mark Lewis
 

Johnny:

I just received my copy of the latest, double copy of the "Every Time With No Complaint" magazine.

After a quick flip through, I can only say...WOW!  Great effort.

Mark Lewis
Narrow gauge modeling in Stony Point, NC


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 3:43 PM johnny graybeal <johnnyg@...> wrote:
Just a quick note to say the latest issue of ETWNC went out from the printer nearly a week ago. Unfortunately, when I got my extra copies there was an issue with the roster that is in the back of the issue. The printer is going to print the roster with the problem resolved and mail the new roster out to everyone this tuesday. So you should receive an issue and a few days later receive an addendum to go with it. 
I think everyone will love this issue, as it covers tons of new ground on our favorite railroad and  its affiliated companies.
Johnny Graybeal


Beware Catalina

Curtis Brookshire
 

I'm posting this across some different groups. Apple recently announced a new operating system named Catalina. I found out from a friend in Virginia who posts photos to his website that Catalina only supports 64 bit programs/files. 32 bit programs will not run on this OS. If you're an Apple user (Mac, MacBook, MacBook Pro etc.) you might want to determine what your content is before deciding whether to upgrade. If you have the Gazette collection DVD, it's 32 bit and won't run on Catalina.

Curtis Brookshire
Pine Level NC


Newest issue of Every Time With No Complaint

johnny graybeal
 

Just a quick note to say the latest issue of ETWNC went out from the printer nearly a week ago. Unfortunately, when I got my extra copies there was an issue with the roster that is in the back of the issue. The printer is going to print the roster with the problem resolved and mail the new roster out to everyone this tuesday. So you should receive an issue and a few days later receive an addendum to go with it. 
I think everyone will love this issue, as it covers tons of new ground on our favorite railroad and  its affiliated companies.
Johnny Graybeal


Re: More work on the On30 ET&WNC layout. The Linville LD

William Uffelman
 

Looking good sir.

Bill Uffelman 


On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 9:44 PM, Tom Grabenstein
<tomgmd@...> wrote:
BLUE FOAM TAKES ON SOME COLORS AND TEXTURE.

On my On30 logging mini layout I used Blue Foam landforms in anticipation of this layout depicting the ET &WNC.



Even learned to carve the foam to look like rock strata by using the edge of a whirling dremel rotary sander.



So it was time to put those experiences to work on this latest project.

First the profiles of the mountains and hills on the Linville LDE were smoothed out using a Surefoam tool.



Rock was carved using the trusty Dremel. The first layers of forest ground cover were made up using latex paints and a variety of ground foams.







Unlike the logger mini, set in wintertime, this mountain RR is set in glorious summer in the Blue Ridge. Next up will be the greens of ground cover and then the trees.

Thanks for looking.

Doc Tom


More work on the On30 ET&WNC layout. The Linville LDE

Tom Grabenstein
 

BLUE FOAM TAKES ON SOME COLORS AND TEXTURE.

On my On30 logging mini layout I used Blue Foam landforms in anticipation of this layout depicting the ET &WNC.



Even learned to carve the foam to look like rock strata by using the edge of a whirling dremel rotary sander.



So it was time to put those experiences to work on this latest project.

First the profiles of the mountains and hills on the Linville LDE were smoothed out using a Surefoam tool.



Rock was carved using the trusty Dremel. The first layers of forest ground cover were made up using latex paints and a variety of ground foams.







Unlike the logger mini, set in wintertime, this mountain RR is set in glorious summer in the Blue Ridge. Next up will be the greens of ground cover and then the trees.

Thanks for looking.

Doc Tom


Re: More work on the Linville layout design element(LDE)

Tom Grabenstein
 

Chris,

This is a big big help! The article and track plans are great!! 

Also, thank you for your input regarding the small shed. I will try to model a small speeder in O scale to fit inside and be taken out from time to time.

I had read somewhere that it  was intentional to put this depot in an isolated area to give the travelers and tourists the sensation of arriving in a totally natural setting and then having the short drive over to the Lodge. Might also have helped local businesses provide transportation services to and from the lodge.

As I scratchbuild the depot I will need to take a look at the original one over in Newland. 

Thanks again for all your help on this project.

Dr Tom


On Oct 5, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Chris Ford <chris@...> wrote:

Tom and all,

I'll post a link to the 3-2 1990 Issue of the Stemwinder where John and I had a few photos of Linville and a map (early map for me) of the Linville track plan. Since that map did not show the part of town where the Eseeola is located, I'll post a cropped piece of my wall map that shows the hotel and roads around that area. You should be able to download and enlarge this PDF as much as you want to see detail. You'll be able to see how you would have gotten to the Hotel from where the Depot was originally located. It wasn't close

The gray dashed line road just east of the depot was the original road with a nice cast concrete bridge (of which there are still some remains in place) that would be a nice addition to a layout for anyone who would model the river. That part of the road was bypassed somewhere around 1970 when the state widened and straightened that part of 181, necessitating the demolition or moving of the Depot (a store converted to a home at the time). Luckily of us the home was moved to Grape Street and lived in for many years. Long story short, though the efforts of many people and the Society it ended up restored back to its Depot glory days and now resides next to the courthouse in Newland.

That shed, for what I know about it, was a RR storage shed very likely for a speeder as it had wood "flooring" from the shed over to the track to facilitate hauling something out of the shed to the track.

Have fun!

http://www.cfordart.com/3-2Stemwinder1990.pdf

http://www.cfordart.com/linvillecroppedmap.pdf



Chris
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Chris Ford
President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
------------------------
www.cfordart.com

On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 09:09:38 -0500, "Tom Grabenstein" <tomgmd@...> wrote:
 
Hello Bill,

 

I too have studied photograph number two and noticed  the switch and wondered where it went. You are giving me valuable information. I wondered if you could post a copy of that 1916 valuation map? I've looked all over the Internet to find the track plan for Linville Depot with no luck.

 

I also wondered what the little shed was used for? It looks like it had frequent visitors as there is a crude wooden grade crossing in front of it. Could this have been an outhouse?  Was it for track maintenance storage?

 

I will be modeling both the water tank and the shed in addition to the depot and any information you or others may have rather is greatly appreciated. 

 

Also roadways leading to the hotel and “to town” ……..any info available?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dr Tom


Re: More work on the Linville layout design element(LDE)

Chris Ford
 

Tom and all,

I'll post a link to the 3-2 1990 Issue of the Stemwinder where John and I had a few photos of Linville and a map (early map for me) of the Linville track plan. Since that map did not show the part of town where the Eseeola is located, I'll post a cropped piece of my wall map that shows the hotel and roads around that area. You should be able to download and enlarge this PDF as much as you want to see detail. You'll be able to see how you would have gotten to the Hotel from where the Depot was originally located. It wasn't close

The gray dashed line road just east of the depot was the original road with a nice cast concrete bridge (of which there are still some remains in place) that would be a nice addition to a layout for anyone who would model the river. That part of the road was bypassed somewhere around 1970 when the state widened and straightened that part of 181, necessitating the demolition or moving of the Depot (a store converted to a home at the time). Luckily of us the home was moved to Grape Street and lived in for many years. Long story short, though the efforts of many people and the Society it ended up restored back to its Depot glory days and now resides next to the courthouse in Newland.

That shed, for what I know about it, was a RR storage shed very likely for a speeder as it had wood "flooring" from the shed over to the track to facilitate hauling something out of the shed to the track.

Have fun!

http://www.cfordart.com/3-2Stemwinder1990.pdf

http://www.cfordart.com/linvillecroppedmap.pdf



Chris
------------------------
Chris Ford
President - ET&WNC Railroad Historical Society
www.etwncrrhs.org
chris@...
901-497-0809
------------------------
www.cfordart.com

On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 09:09:38 -0500, "Tom Grabenstein" <tomgmd@...> wrote:
 

Hello Bill,

 

I too have studied photograph number two and noticed  the switch and wondered where it went. You are giving me valuable information. I wondered if you could post a copy of that 1916 valuation map? I've looked all over the Internet to find the track plan for Linville Depot with no luck.

 

I also wondered what the little shed was used for? It looks like it had frequent visitors as there is a crude wooden grade crossing in front of it. Could this have been an outhouse?  Was it for track maintenance storage?

 

I will be modeling both the water tank and the shed in addition to the depot and any information you or others may have rather is greatly appreciated. 

 

Also roadways leading to the hotel and “to town” ……..any info available?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dr Tom


Re: More work on the Linville layout design element(LDE)

Tom Grabenstein
 

Hello Bill,


I too have studied photograph number two and noticed  the switch and wondered where it went. You are giving me valuable information. I wondered if you could post a copy of that 1916 valuation map? I've looked all over the Internet to find the track plan for Linville Depot with no luck.


I also wondered what the little shed was used for? It looks like it had frequent visitors as there is a crude wooden grade crossing in front of it. Could this have been an outhouse?  Was it for track maintenance storage?


I will be modeling both the water tank and the shed in addition to the depot and any information you or others may have rather is greatly appreciated. 


Also roadways leading to the hotel and “to town” ……..any info available?


Thanks in advance.


Dr Tom


Re: More work on the Linville layout design element(LDE)

Bill Miller
 

Look at the track in front of the water tank in the second picture and you will see a switch that goes off to the right. This is the railroad west switch for a 2,215 foot long passing siding ( It is on the 1916 valuation maps)

 Bill Miller.




-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Grabenstein <tomgmd@...>
To: ETWNC <ETWNC@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Oct 4, 2019 9:44 pm
Subject: [ETWNC] More work on the Linville layout design element(LDE)



I've had a little more time to work on the Linnville LD E.

This is what I'm shooting for in the next few months:







I placed the 1:1 track plan on the blue foam shelf layout. I used the turnout templates from PECO and pushpins to trace out the track lines.



I then connected all the little dots with a sharpie pen and then had an outline of the track and turnouts.



I also used the same technique to map out the roads and geographic outlines of hills and railroad crossings.



It looks like the On30 models of ET&WNC narrow gauge rolling stock will fit nicely.







Next I cut out Blue foam forms for the foothills that surrounded the Linville Depot. They are stacked like wedding cake and will receive carving of rocks and sculptamold ground covering soon.



You can get a good idea of how the nearby logging lines will connect to the Linnville LDE.



Thanks for looking. All ideas, critiques and input greatly appreciated. Dr. Tom

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