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Re: Update on Rail Removal

Rae Augenstein
 

Looked to me like they were only taking up rail. I went out G Street today,
wasn't on Elk Ave so I don't know what's happening around the old box
factory. Downtown hasn't been touched yet except for the crossings that
were removed months ago.

- Rae
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:41 PM, David Pressley <notelvis2@yahoo.com>wrote:

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Have they started removing crossties too or will that come later?

David



Re: Update on Rail Removal

David Pressley
 

Have they started removing crossties too or will that come later?
 
David
 

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From: Rae Augenstein <GetGlowing@gmail.com>
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:32 AM
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: Update on Rail Removal


 
I was in Elizabethton today and snapped a couple photos of the rail
removal, which you can find at

http://cosmicrae.posterous.com/etwnc-tweetsie-rail-removal-in-elizabethton

There are two photos in the post, switch between them with the small
arrows above the photo in the post.

There were four men working on the removal. They're working in the
area behind Grindstaff today.

- Rae Augenstein



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Re: Update on Rail Removal

Rae Augenstein
 

I was in Elizabethton today and snapped a couple photos of the rail
removal, which you can find at

http://cosmicrae.posterous.com/etwnc-tweetsie-rail-removal-in-elizabethton

There are two photos in the post, switch between them with the small
arrows above the photo in the post.

There were four men working on the removal. They're working in the
area behind Grindstaff today.



- Rae Augenstein


Re: Update on Rail Removal

Ken Riddle
 

They could about use one crew full time at the scrapyard. It has really
boomed. Omnisource bought the land from the CC&O and have built a great big
transloader over there. The acid business is leaving thanks to Exide in
Bristol closing.



I was over there a few Mondays back and they had 53 loads in one day. That
is 1965 numbers! For years in the old days they had two yard crews five
days a week and one on Saturday. That ended in the fifties. When I was
little and stayed with Uncle Willie on Maple Street it was not unusual for
them to make two trips to Elizabethton on Monday. The last trip would come
back after dark. The crew did not go on duty til 10am, after the
Clinchfield set out to them. They would gather in the Clinchfield set out
from that morning, grab what the Southern set out the night before and make
up an eastbound to Elizabethton, and switch what they had in Johnson City.
They would build two set out cuts, one for the CC&O and one for the
Southern.



They took the eastbound stuff to Cowtown and work it out there in front of
the plants. Sometimes they would work something in to the plants right then
(with the pot) if they were in a hurry for it, but most of the time they
worked the rest of Elizabethton before coming back to work the plants. They
would get water before they worked the plants. The pot would be spotted up
and the big engine cut off. Usually they worked the tipple at the
powerhouse first, while the pot had plenty of steam. Empties came out and
loaded hoppers went in. There were tracks into Bemberg back then and it was
running as well as the new buildings. They would set out the empties
outbound then work the chemicals into the plant. After all that was
delivered they gathered up the empty tank cars and boxcars, coupled it to
the outbound rayon boxcars, tacked it on the empty hoppers and that made up
the westbound train.



They would get off the pot and the NARC guys would take it back to the
powerhouse. They would get the big engine hot and blot out the sun with all
the smoke. Brownie would ALWAYS oil around while Mr. Vest or Mr. Dowdy got
her hot.



Then the show began. Lots of times they had thirty cars or so which was all
they could drag over Buffalo. They would get across the road and when they
got on the main line they would give her HELL out the west end of
Elizabethton, many times passing Sycamore Shoals at better than 40 mph. I
know Mr, Hobbs is rolling over in the ground as they take up that good big
track out there.



When they got back to Johnson City they would break down the Elizabethton
outbounds to Southern and Clinchfield, and the last thing they did that day
was to take the two cuts and set out to both railroads. Sometimes the
Southern would already have set in to them by that time and, if so, they
left the cut down at the end of the railroad and the ET brought it back up
to the shop area. If they had not, the Southern would shove it up there
after the ET boys went off duty.



Ken



From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Milbourne
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:19 PM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Tweetsie] Re: Update on Rail Removal





Well, I don't remember the exact details offhand. But they're moving a
LOT of cars each month. Lot of traffic with JC Chemical; salt is
being trucked in and loaded on cars to go to Florida (can't remember
what for). Omnisource now has a big scrap operation adjacent to the
rail yard; if I understood him correctly, they actually bought that
property from the RR.

Those were the main things that he mentioned in the course of the
conversation. Sorry I didn't capture all of the exact details.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:13 AM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: Update on Rail Removal

Hi Mark,
Would you please share some of Darrell's information on the current
business in the ET?
Thank,
Andy

--- In Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mark
Milbourne" <mark@...> wrote:

Contrary to the article which stated that they'd start on the east end
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30
this
morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near
the former Inland Container.

Regardless of the order taken up, it's the beginning of the end.

In the meantime, the ET Rwy is VERY busy with traffic in JC. Just
happened to talk to Darrell yesterday.

Mark

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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:47 AM
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Subject: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal

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Re: Update on Rail Removal

Pete Thorn
 

I'm pissed about what's happening, NS is finally recognizing the value of
the mom & pop businesses. I've gone on and on about potential for rail
served businesses in Elizabethton, and no excuse not to have them from what
I see regularly on the ground with new biz. popping up in old facilties,
not counting plastics, ethanol, etc.. is booming.

This is the worst time for us to lose the rails and ties, rail banking is
bullhockey, its gone forever now ggrrrrr #$%#$^%$%&.

Between closed door commission meetings, no help for transitioning farmers
out of tobacco & the railroad being torn up, one can only conclude that the
powers that be want the native inhabitants to go away. Want kind of jobs
is the trail going to produce???? minimum wage t-shirt shacks???



On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Ken Riddle <keriddle@yatesind.com> wrote:

**


There you go Julia-that should get the little girlie men tree huggers
excited.

Ken


From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jkodak@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:53 PM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal


If any of you are on Facebook and "like" the JC Press I could use a little
back up. I voiced my opinion on today's story and I'm getting some
backlash. I'm not good at debates.. or not near as good as some of you
have
proven to be. :) I could use some opinions on our side.
Thanks,
Julia

Julia Williams Kodak

Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill,
Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Goodson, Golding (Golden), Gollehon,
Johnson, Kodak, Moore, Musser, Norman, Rowland, Scott, Snow, Suit,
Sturgill,

Upchurch, Williams, and Wymer in SW VA and W NC and the people of Shell
Creek, Carter Co., TN.
"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans
6:23

In a message dated 1/11/2012 12:26:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
GetGlowing@gmail.com <mailto:GetGlowing%40gmail.com> writes:

I sometimes hear the ETRY train horns from my house, and occasionally I'm
at Legion Street when the trains are crossing SoF. Makes me smile every
time. :)

- Rae
~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Milbourne
<mark@doerivergorge.com <mailto:mark%40doerivergorge.com> >wrote:


**


Contrary to the article which stated that they'd start on the east end
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30 this
morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near
the former Inland Container.

Regardless of the order taken up, it's the beginning of the end.

In the meantime, the ET Rwy is VERY busy with traffic in JC. Just
happened to talk to Darrell yesterday.

Mark

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Behalf Of potter1954
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:47 AM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal

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Re: Update on Rail Removal

Mark Milbourne
 

Well, I don't remember the exact details offhand. But they're moving a
LOT of cars each month. Lot of traffic with JC Chemical; salt is
being trucked in and loaded on cars to go to Florida (can't remember
what for). Omnisource now has a big scrap operation adjacent to the
rail yard; if I understood him correctly, they actually bought that
property from the RR.

Those were the main things that he mentioned in the course of the
conversation. Sorry I didn't capture all of the exact details.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Andy
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 8:13 AM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Re: Update on Rail Removal

Hi Mark,
Would you please share some of Darrell's information on the current
business in the ET?
Thank,
Andy

--- In Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Milbourne" <mark@...> wrote:

Contrary to the article which stated that they'd start on the east end
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30
this
morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near
the former Inland Container.

Regardless of the order taken up, it's the beginning of the end.

In the meantime, the ET Rwy is VERY busy with traffic in JC. Just
happened to talk to Darrell yesterday.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of potter1954
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:47 AM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/article.php?id=97416
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Re: Update on Rail Removal

Andy
 

Hi Mark,
Would you please share some of Darrell's information on the current business in the ET?
Thank,
Andy

--- In Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Milbourne" <mark@...> wrote:

Contrary to the article which stated that they'd start on the east end
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30 this
morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near
the former Inland Container.

Regardless of the order taken up, it's the beginning of the end.

In the meantime, the ET Rwy is VERY busy with traffic in JC. Just
happened to talk to Darrell yesterday.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of potter1954
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:47 AM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/article.php?id=97416
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Re: Update on Rail Removal

Andy
 

Hi Mark,
Would you please share some of Darrell's information on the current business in the ET?
Thank,
Andy

--- In Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Milbourne" <mark@...> wrote:

Contrary to the article which stated that they'd start on the east end
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30 this
morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near
the former Inland Container.

Regardless of the order taken up, it's the beginning of the end.

In the meantime, the ET Rwy is VERY busy with traffic in JC. Just
happened to talk to Darrell yesterday.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of potter1954
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:47 AM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News/article.php?id=97416
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Re: Update on Rail Removal

Julia Williams Kodak
 

Thanks! I figured you could do the trick.
Julia

Julia Williams Kodak

Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill,
Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Goodson, Golding (Golden), Gollehon,
Johnson, Kodak, Moore, Musser, Norman, Rowland, Scott, Snow, Suit, Sturgill,
Upchurch, Williams, and Wymer in SW VA and W NC and the people of Shell
Creek, Carter Co., TN.
"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans
6:23

In a message dated 1/12/2012 3:03:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
keriddle@yatesind.com writes:




There you go Julia-that should get the little girlie men tree huggers
excited.

Ken

From: _Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com)
[mailto:_Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf
Of _Jkodak@aol.com_ (mailto:Jkodak@aol.com)
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:53 PM
To: _Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com)
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal

If any of you are on Facebook and "like" the JC Press I could use a little
back up. I voiced my opinion on today's story and I'm getting some
backlash. I'm not good at debates.. or not near as good as some of you
have
proven to be. :) I could use some opinions on our side.
Thanks,
Julia

Julia Williams Kodak

Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill,
Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Goodson, Golding (Golden), Gollehon,
Johnson, Kodak, Moore, Musser, Norman, Rowland, Scott, Snow, Suit,
Sturgill,

Upchurch, Williams, and Wymer in SW VA and W NC and the people of Shell
Creek, Carter Co., TN.
"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans
6:23

In a message dated 1/11/2012 12:26:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
_GetGlowing@gmail.com_ (mailto:GetGlowing@gmail.com)
<mailto:GetGlowing%40gmail.com> writes:

I sometimes hear the ETRY train horns from my house, and occasionally I'm
at Legion Street when the trains are crossing SoF. Makes me smile every
time. :)

- Rae
~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Milbourne
<_mark@doerivergorge.com_ (mailto:mark@doerivergorge.com)
<mailto:mark%40doerivergorge.com> >wrote:

**


Contrary to the article which stated that they'd start on the east end
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30 this
morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near
the former Inland Container.

Regardless of the order taken up, it's the beginning of the end.

In the meantime, the ET Rwy is VERY busy with traffic in JC. Just
happened to talk to Darrell yesterday.

Mark

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<mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com>
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<mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of potter1954
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:47 AM
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<mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal

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Re: Update on Rail Removal

Ken Riddle
 

There you go Julia-that should get the little girlie men tree huggers
excited.



Ken



From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jkodak@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:53 PM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal





If any of you are on Facebook and "like" the JC Press I could use a little
back up. I voiced my opinion on today's story and I'm getting some
backlash. I'm not good at debates.. or not near as good as some of you have
proven to be. :) I could use some opinions on our side.
Thanks,
Julia

Julia Williams Kodak

Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill,
Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Goodson, Golding (Golden), Gollehon,
Johnson, Kodak, Moore, Musser, Norman, Rowland, Scott, Snow, Suit, Sturgill,

Upchurch, Williams, and Wymer in SW VA and W NC and the people of Shell
Creek, Carter Co., TN.
"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans
6:23

In a message dated 1/11/2012 12:26:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
GetGlowing@gmail.com <mailto:GetGlowing%40gmail.com> writes:

I sometimes hear the ETRY train horns from my house, and occasionally I'm
at Legion Street when the trains are crossing SoF. Makes me smile every
time. :)

- Rae
~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Milbourne
<mark@doerivergorge.com <mailto:mark%40doerivergorge.com> >wrote:

**


Contrary to the article which stated that they'd start on the east end
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30 this
morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near
the former Inland Container.

Regardless of the order taken up, it's the beginning of the end.

In the meantime, the ET Rwy is VERY busy with traffic in JC. Just
happened to talk to Darrell yesterday.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of potter1954
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:47 AM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Tweetsie%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Tweetsie] Update on Rail Removal

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Re: colorado in the fall

jtatum43
 

--- In Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com, David Pressley <notelvis2@...> wrote:

Hi Johnny,
<snip>One that may be an option too now that Southwest Airlines serves
Greenville/Spartanburg might be going in and/or out of Albuquerque.
<snip>
David Pressley
Excellent suggestion from David on using Southwest out of GSP. That's a
great little airport (the long-term parking lot is so close to the
terminal that there's no shuttle needed!), and Southwest has a lot of
connections (and some non-stops) out of there. The airport is right off
I-85 in the Greer area.
Checking just now, (1) Southwest is accepting reservations thru August
10th only right now....don't know when they will open up September; (2)
Southwest has several schedules a day from GSP to Denver, one of which
is a one-stop, no-change; the others change planes at Chicago Midway or
Houston Hobby; lowest fares shown for August are around $179. If
Raleigh-Durham (RDU) is closer, fares are a tad lower out of there,
around $166.
Southwest has quite a few Denver-Seattle flights daily and Seattle-GSP
or RDU. They still don't charge for checked bags, something the other
airlines should be ashamed of doing. The only "extra" one might
consider is the optional priority boarding fee....less than what the
other carriers charge for one checked bag and well worth it IMHO.
Jim Tatum.


Re: Pictures from Etown

Rae Augenstein
 

I'd love to see some historical markers along the new trail similar to the
ones they put up in downtown Johnson City last year. People need to know
where they're walking & biking and the significance it had for this area.

- Rae


Re: colorado in the fall

David Pressley
 

Hi Johnny,
 
Some thoughts -
 
I have ridden the domes at both Rio Grande Scenic and Royal Gorge. I also splurged once and did the cab ride at the Royal Gorge.
 
Both are stunning, stunning trips and I believe the ride over La Veta Pass westbound on the Rio Grande Scenic is perhaps the most overlooked standard gauge railroad ride anywhere in the United States. This trip is a MUST SEE and would be worth the time and effort even if you must settle for riding behind the diesel....... though it's pretty sweet behind the former LS&I 2-8-0 which has been their primary steam power the last two or three summers.
 
Shop around for airfare....... on my past trips to Colorado I've often found the best fares and the best car rental rates going in and out of Colorado Springs. I've used Denver and Grand Junction before as well. One that may be an option too now that Southwest Airlines serves Greenville/Spartanburg might be going in and/or out of Albuquerque.
 
Hotels - the Comfort Inn in Alamosa, CO is one that I have used in the past and would recommend..... it's a short drive from the Antonito end of the Cumbres & Toltec. Mr. Jerry Ledford, on my suggestion, had a successful stay at the Econo-Lodge in Pagosa Springs, CO three or four years ago. That's about midway between Durango and the Chama end of the Cumbres & Toltec. Also much less expensive than what I would consider 'acceptable' hotels in Durango. I've not stayed in Pagosa Springs myself but I've heard nice things about that hotel...... and it looks nice having driven past it going from Alamosa to Durango and back in the past.
 
NOW - I would LOVE to be a part of this safari but as September is the beginning of the school year, it is pretty unlikely that I could make an extended trip that time of year. A pity too because this September 10th is my 50th birthday and I would like nothing more than to spend it riding from Chama to Antonito in a chartered caboose on the Cumbres & Toltec. I've even been stashing away a little cash each month for a couple of years now towards doing something ridiculous like that.
 
(sidebar - I love the Tweetsie lore as it is 'our' narrow gauge and #12 at Blowing Rock is an absolute gem BUT the best days of my railfan life have been spent in the open gondola at the Cumbres & Toltec. I've ridden that train westbound from Antonito twice and eastbound from Chama three times..... one of those doubleheaded. Eastbound is better because going west it's primarily squealing brake shoes the last hour of the trip moving from Cumbres Pass to Chama....)
 
But - back to business....... the stash I have combined with some Amtrak Guest Reward Points will pretty much cover a week in Colorado riding these trains (perhaps even with the family) in July with maybe enough left over to settle for a chartered caboose over at the Great Smoky Mountains Railroad for a daytrip on September 10th.....I'm actually working on pricing out a July trip right now.
 
HOWEVER, if you have 8 or 10 people chiming in wanting to go on this safarin and IF those 8 or 10 people want to go in for a caboose at the Cumbres & Toltec on September 10th........... well....... I might be inclined to take a long weekend and, if welcome, tag along for a couple of days!
 
David Pressley
 
 

________________________________
From: johnny <johnnyg@boone.net>
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:41 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] colorado in the fall


 
Gentlemen,
I am laying the ground work right now for a six day safari in Colorado in the days leading up to the NNGC in Seattle in September. The guy who was going to travel with me has realized that he cannot make a trip at that time, and rather than plan from the beginning for some lone hiking and train riding, I thought I would put forward the plans to a couple of groups, to see if one (or more) might want to make an adventure out of it.
As of right now I plan to arrive in Denver by noon on September 6, and try to do the Georgetown loop and Clear Creek canyon before the end of the day. Possibly a quick stop at the CRM. Done all this before but want to again.
Following days include driving over Boreas Pass, hiking up to the east side of Alpine Tunnel (did that two years ago but would love to go back), drive over Marshall Pass (done that in the past too) drive up to west side of Alpine (ditto), explore the South park grade up to Ohio Pass, and drive along the RGS route. More if time allows.
Also looking at riding the Royal Gorge train (not done before), the Rio grande Scenic (not done and want to do if can be done with steam) and possibly the parlors in both C&TS and D&S. Something might have to give though and I want to do the hiking while I am young (48), instead of repeating train trips I have already ridden.
Now my gf has told me to warn anyone contemplating sharing a hotel room with me that I snore loudly. I don't know what she is talking about, but be forewarned. I have no problem with this turning into a real safari with a couple of cars worth of people. I have done the hike to Alpine and anyone can do it if you are a treadmill person at all. I work in a corporate office and I prepared for it by tread milling at 3.0 mph at a 4 percent grade. I had no problems at all and my friend and I were back down three hours after we left the car. Of course all this hiking depends on the weather, which in September can either be dry at those elevations, or snow, but in 2009 before Colorado Springs we had a great dry time.
At this point I am almost ready to pull the trigger on the airline tickets, as prices are down right now, so beginning and ending dates will be locked in soon, as I have approval to be off for those days from work. The flight I am looking at out of Denver to Seattle will still get us there mid day, in plenty of time for the start of the convention.
It would help me greatly to have a traveling companion/companions to save gas/car/room expenses. I stay in nothing worse than a Days Inn, and can get two beds in all the rooms if I book it that way in the beginning. Would like to do the good train stuff, including cars with meals, extra room, that kind of thing. I doubt I will be back in CO until there is another NG convention there, so I guess this is mid life Crisis trip, lol.
If anyone knows of special events that are going to go on that week, please speak up. No one has updated their website since the New Year, so I have no idea of what might go on that week. The itinerary is still flexible, and can either be heavy hiking oriented, or train riding oriented, but hopefully both. I have a plan laid out, but it can be tweaked.
Constructive thoughts-please share. If you want to join me, we have some months to get to know each other before you hear me snore. I have most of the Colorado books, and have traveled extensively there twice now, so I can be a decent tour guide, even if it is not the Tweetsie. And the strength in numbers idea is always good in the high mountains of Colorado. The emphasis will be on narrow gauge of course, and slightly off the beaten track as much possible. If you know someone who would seriously be interested, please pass this along to them, with my email address.
Contact me off list if you are seriously interested.

Johnny Graybeal
2011 NNGC (its over Yay)
Johnnyg@boone.net




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Re: colorado in the fall

pstabovitz
 

If I was younger (now 82) I would like to try some of it. I have been on the D&SNG and the Royal Gorge, and saw CRM. You mentioned Snoring. I use to snore myself, but I went to a sleep doctor, (pulmonary) and I have sleep apnea, which is when you momentarily stop breathing. He set me up with a breathing machine, which has mask, and blows air into your nose, while sleeping. I am not snoring now and sleeping better. You might want to look into that.

Pete

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From: johnny
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:41 PM
Subject: [Tweetsie] colorado in the fall



Gentlemen,
I am laying the ground work right now for a six day safari in Colorado in the days leading up to the NNGC in Seattle in September. The guy who was going to travel with me has realized that he cannot make a trip at that time, and rather than plan from the beginning for some lone hiking and train riding, I thought I would put forward the plans to a couple of groups, to see if one (or more) might want to make an adventure out of it.
As of right now I plan to arrive in Denver by noon on September 6, and try to do the Georgetown loop and Clear Creek canyon before the end of the day. Possibly a quick stop at the CRM. Done all this before but want to again.
Following days include driving over Boreas Pass, hiking up to the east side of Alpine Tunnel (did that two years ago but would love to go back), drive over Marshall Pass (done that in the past too) drive up to west side of Alpine (ditto), explore the South park grade up to Ohio Pass, and drive along the RGS route. More if time allows.
Also looking at riding the Royal Gorge train (not done before), the Rio grande Scenic (not done and want to do if can be done with steam) and possibly the parlors in both C&TS and D&S. Something might have to give though and I want to do the hiking while I am young (48), instead of repeating train trips I have already ridden.
Now my gf has told me to warn anyone contemplating sharing a hotel room with me that I snore loudly. I don't know what she is talking about, but be forewarned. I have no problem with this turning into a real safari with a couple of cars worth of people. I have done the hike to Alpine and anyone can do it if you are a treadmill person at all. I work in a corporate office and I prepared for it by tread milling at 3.0 mph at a 4 percent grade. I had no problems at all and my friend and I were back down three hours after we left the car. Of course all this hiking depends on the weather, which in September can either be dry at those elevations, or snow, but in 2009 before Colorado Springs we had a great dry time.
At this point I am almost ready to pull the trigger on the airline tickets, as prices are down right now, so beginning and ending dates will be locked in soon, as I have approval to be off for those days from work. The flight I am looking at out of Denver to Seattle will still get us there mid day, in plenty of time for the start of the convention.
It would help me greatly to have a traveling companion/companions to save gas/car/room expenses. I stay in nothing worse than a Days Inn, and can get two beds in all the rooms if I book it that way in the beginning. Would like to do the good train stuff, including cars with meals, extra room, that kind of thing. I doubt I will be back in CO until there is another NG convention there, so I guess this is mid life Crisis trip, lol.
If anyone knows of special events that are going to go on that week, please speak up. No one has updated their website since the New Year, so I have no idea of what might go on that week. The itinerary is still flexible, and can either be heavy hiking oriented, or train riding oriented, but hopefully both. I have a plan laid out, but it can be tweaked.
Constructive thoughts-please share. If you want to join me, we have some months to get to know each other before you hear me snore. I have most of the Colorado books, and have traveled extensively there twice now, so I can be a decent tour guide, even if it is not the Tweetsie. And the strength in numbers idea is always good in the high mountains of Colorado. The emphasis will be on narrow gauge of course, and slightly off the beaten track as much possible. If you know someone who would seriously be interested, please pass this along to them, with my email address.
Contact me off list if you are seriously interested.

Johnny Graybeal
2011 NNGC (its over Yay)
Johnnyg@boone.net


colorado in the fall

johnny graybeal
 

Gentlemen,
I am laying the ground work right now for a six day safari in Colorado in the days leading up to the NNGC in Seattle in September. The guy who was going to travel with me has realized that he cannot make a trip at that time, and rather than plan from the beginning for some lone hiking and train riding, I thought I would put forward the plans to a couple of groups, to see if one (or more) might want to make an adventure out of it.
As of right now I plan to arrive in Denver by noon on September 6, and try to do the Georgetown loop and Clear Creek canyon before the end of the day. Possibly a quick stop at the CRM. Done all this before but want to again.
Following days include driving over Boreas Pass, hiking up to the east side of Alpine Tunnel (did that two years ago but would love to go back), drive over Marshall Pass (done that in the past too) drive up to west side of Alpine (ditto), explore the South park grade up to Ohio Pass, and drive along the RGS route. More if time allows.
Also looking at riding the Royal Gorge train (not done before), the Rio grande Scenic (not done and want to do if can be done with steam) and possibly the parlors in both C&TS and D&S. Something might have to give though and I want to do the hiking while I am young (48), instead of repeating train trips I have already ridden.
Now my gf has told me to warn anyone contemplating sharing a hotel room with me that I snore loudly. I don't know what she is talking about, but be forewarned. I have no problem with this turning into a real safari with a couple of cars worth of people. I have done the hike to Alpine and anyone can do it if you are a treadmill person at all. I work in a corporate office and I prepared for it by tread milling at 3.0 mph at a 4 percent grade. I had no problems at all and my friend and I were back down three hours after we left the car. Of course all this hiking depends on the weather, which in September can either be dry at those elevations, or snow, but in 2009 before Colorado Springs we had a great dry time.
At this point I am almost ready to pull the trigger on the airline tickets, as prices are down right now, so beginning and ending dates will be locked in soon, as I have approval to be off for those days from work. The flight I am looking at out of Denver to Seattle will still get us there mid day, in plenty of time for the start of the convention.
It would help me greatly to have a traveling companion/companions to save gas/car/room expenses. I stay in nothing worse than a Days Inn, and can get two beds in all the rooms if I book it that way in the beginning. Would like to do the good train stuff, including cars with meals, extra room, that kind of thing. I doubt I will be back in CO until there is another NG convention there, so I guess this is mid life Crisis trip, lol.
If anyone knows of special events that are going to go on that week, please speak up. No one has updated their website since the New Year, so I have no idea of what might go on that week. The itinerary is still flexible, and can either be heavy hiking oriented, or train riding oriented, but hopefully both. I have a plan laid out, but it can be tweaked.
Constructive thoughts-please share. If you want to join me, we have some months to get to know each other before you hear me snore. I have most of the Colorado books, and have traveled extensively there twice now, so I can be a decent tour guide, even if it is not the Tweetsie. And the strength in numbers idea is always good in the high mountains of Colorado. The emphasis will be on narrow gauge of course, and slightly off the beaten track as much possible. If you know someone who would seriously be interested, please pass this along to them, with my email address.
Contact me off list if you are seriously interested.

Johnny Graybeal
2011 NNGC (its over Yay)
Johnnyg@boone.net


Re: Pictures from Etown

johnny graybeal
 

It makes sense. They will want the 112 lb rail much more than the 70, and it switches over there at Bemberg. Plus easy to load.
Johnny

--- In Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com, Dick Sossomon <dbs_70@...> wrote:


You are right, they are just west of the hospital which is seen on the left side of the picture. I think the old switches and crossing and container place would be ahead about 300 to 500 feet on the right and behind them. I have traveled that road more times than I can remember.
Dick


To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
From: rrapp@...
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:52:17 +0000
Subject: RE: [Tweetsie] Pictures from Etown

The saddest pictures I've seen of late.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:49 PM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Pictures from Etown



Looks like they started near Bemberg.....

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/photos/galleries/?e=1393130&;c=64654









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Re: Pictures from Etown

Dick Sossomon <dbs_70@...>
 

You are right, they are just west of the hospital which is seen on the left side of the picture. I think the old switches and crossing and container place would be ahead about 300 to 500 feet on the right and behind them. I have traveled that road more times than I can remember.
Dick

To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
From: rrapp@mhc.edu
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 19:52:17 +0000
Subject: RE: [Tweetsie] Pictures from Etown

The saddest pictures I've seen of late.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:49 PM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Pictures from Etown



Looks like they started near Bemberg.....

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/photos/galleries/?e=1393130&;c=64654









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Re: Pictures from Etown

Rapp, Ray <rrapp@...>
 

The saddest pictures I've seen of late.

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From: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com [Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of potter1954 [potter1954@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:49 PM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Tweetsie] Pictures from Etown



Looks like they started near Bemberg.....

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/photos/galleries/?e=1393130&;c=64654





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Pictures from Etown

potter1954
 

Looks like they started near Bemberg.....

http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/photos/galleries/?e=1393130&;c=64654


Re: Update on Rail Removal

Julia Williams Kodak
 

If any of you are on Facebook and "like" the JC Press I could use a little
back up. I voiced my opinion on today's story and I'm getting some
backlash. I'm not good at debates.. or not near as good as some of you have
proven to be. :) I could use some opinions on our side.
Thanks,
Julia

Julia Williams Kodak

Researching Adams, Anderson, Baker, Bedsaul, Bonham, Brannock, Caudill,
Caldwell, Creed, Dickens, Franklin, Goodson, Golding (Golden), Gollehon,
Johnson, Kodak, Moore, Musser, Norman, Rowland, Scott, Snow, Suit, Sturgill,
Upchurch, Williams, and Wymer in SW VA and W NC and the people of Shell
Creek, Carter Co., TN.
"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans
6:23

In a message dated 1/11/2012 12:26:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
GetGlowing@gmail.com writes:

I sometimes hear the ETRY train horns from my house, and occasionally I'm
at Legion Street when the trains are crossing SoF. Makes me smile every
time. :)

- Rae
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Mark Milbourne
<mark@doerivergorge.com>wrote:

**


Contrary to the article which stated that they'd start on the east end
(behind Snap-on), I've not seen anything happening there as of 8:30 this
morning. The photo appears to be taken on the west side of Eliz near
the former Inland Container.

Regardless of the order taken up, it's the beginning of the end.

In the meantime, the ET Rwy is VERY busy with traffic in JC. Just
happened to talk to Darrell yesterday.

Mark

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Behalf Of potter1954
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:47 AM
To: Tweetsie@yahoogroups.com
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