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Jeff KB2M
I ran into a TO1Q call that DXLab doesn't accept. It is a special event station operating out of Guadeloupe. How do I log this?
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DAVID BERNHEISEL
Tango Oscar one Quebec? Dave, N2DPF On 3/27/2023 7:56 PM, Jeff KB2M wrote:
I ran into a TO1Q call that DXLab doesn't accept. It is a special event station operating out of Guadeloupe. How do I log this? |
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Joe Subich, W4TV
DXCC=FM
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73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/27/2023 8:56 PM, Jeff KB2M wrote:
I ran into a TO1Q call that DXLab doesn't accept. It is a special event station operating out of Guadeloupe. How do I log this? |
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Paul R. Stoetzer
FG
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On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 9:19 PM Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:
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Mike Kasrich
It's FG. Always check announcements before a big contest for the country updates. If you use n1mm or other such contest programs they have country files you can install.
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On 3/27/2023 8:56 PM, Jeff KB2M wrote:
I ran into a TO1Q call that DXLab doesn't accept. It is a special event station operating out of Guadeloupe. How do I log this? |
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Dave AA6YQ
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I ran into a TO1Q call that DXLab doesn't accept. It is a special event station operating out of Guadeloupe. How do I log this? + The prefix TO is ambiguous; station with that callsign could be in France or in any French overseas territory - like Guadeloupe. + I you haven't defined an Override for TO1Q, then when you type the callsign into DXKeeper's Capture window and strike the Enter or Tab key, DXKeeper will be unable to populate the Capture window's DXCC prefix, which will prevent you from logging it. You can manually set the Capture window's DXCC selector to FG, and log the QSO. + DXLab's DXView component provides an Override database that enables you to specify the location details for ambiguous callsigns like TO1Q; all DXLab components will then know where TO1Q is located. You can periodically download Overrides from Club Log and AD1C's BigCTY list; my Override List contains an entry for TO1Q from BigCTY. See https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/CreateEntityOverride 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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On 3/27/2023 9:30 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
You can periodically download Overrides from Club Log and AD1C's BigCTY listIt's probably a good idea to do this as part of prep for any major DX contest. I found this out the hard way - by failing to do it for ARRL DX CW and WPX SSB this year, resulting in the same problem when importing my N1MM+ logs. In both cases, I ended up doing the downloads and then used the Override list to determine what the proper DXCC entity to use for those QSOs, by hand. Ben -- Ben Coleman nj8j@... |
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Dave AA6YQ
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On 3/27/2023 9:30 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote: You can periodically download Overrides from Club Log and AD1C'sIt's probably a good idea to do this as part of prep for any major DX contest. I found this out the hard way - by failing to do it for ARRL DX CW and WPX SSB this year, resulting in the same problem when importing my N1MM+ logs. In both cases, I ended up doing the downloads and then used the Override list to determine what the proper DXCC entity to use for those QSOs, by hand. + Yes: on the Main window's "Import QSOs" tab, check the Options panel's "Enable Override checking" box, and your imported QSOs will be updated to reflect the location information present in defined Overrides. 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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Dave and the group,
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As suggested, I periodically download the Overrides from Clublog and the BigCTY files, but I often see discrepancies between the two. For example, when I update the BigCTY, and then update from Clublog, I often see that Clublog has overridden a call that has just been updated from the BigCTY file. However, I am not sure I have ever run into any issues with calls I have worked, but I wonder if this is normal, and whether others have noticed it. 73 de Phil GU0SUP -----Original Message-----
From: "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq@...> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March, 2023 03:02 To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: Re: [DXLab] TO1Q call + more AA6YQ comments below On 3/27/2023 9:30 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote: You can periodically download Overrides from Club Log and AD1C'sIt's probably a good idea to do this as part of prep for any major DX contest. I found this out the hard way - by failing to do it for ARRL DX CW and WPX SSB this year, resulting in the same problem when importing my N1MM+ logs. In both cases, I ended up doing the downloads and then used the Override list to determine what the proper DXCC entity to use for those QSOs, by hand. + Yes: on the Main window's "Import QSOs" tab, check the Options panel's "Enable Override checking" box, and your imported QSOs will be updated to reflect the location information present in defined Overrides. 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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I just wonder why ambiguous prefixes are allowed? Oh well, at least there is the override code to handle something that should not happen in the first place.
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I suppose I missed an explanation for why it happens. Outlook LT Gil W0MN Hierro Candente Batir de Repente 44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb -----Original Message-----
From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Phil Cooper via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 4:36 AM To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: Re: [DXLab] TO1Q call Dave and the group, As suggested, I periodically download the Overrides from Clublog and the BigCTY files, but I often see discrepancies between the two. For example, when I update the BigCTY, and then update from Clublog, I often see that Clublog has overridden a call that has just been updated from the BigCTY file. However, I am not sure I have ever run into any issues with calls I have worked, but I wonder if this is normal, and whether others have noticed it. 73 de Phil GU0SUP -----Original Message----- From: "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq@...> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March, 2023 03:02 To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: Re: [DXLab] TO1Q call + more AA6YQ comments below On 3/27/2023 9:30 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote: You can periodically download Overrides from Club Log and AD1C'sIt's probably a good idea to do this as part of prep for any major DX contest. I found this out the hard way - by failing to do it for ARRL DX CW and WPX SSB this year, resulting in the same problem when importing my N1MM+ logs. In both cases, I ended up doing the downloads and then used the Override list to determine what the proper DXCC entity to use for those QSOs, by hand. + Yes: on the Main window's "Import QSOs" tab, check the Options panel's "Enable Override checking" box, and your imported QSOs will be updated to reflect the location information present in defined Overrides. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W Hierro candente, batir de repente HP Laptop |
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Jeff KB2M
Thanks Dave and all. I knew it was FG, but now I also know how to setup the overrides.
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73 Jeff kb2m On 3/27/2023 10:02 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
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Joe Subich, W4TV
On 3/28/2023 7:36 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:
I just wonder why ambiguous prefixes are allowed?Because to countries like France, all of their "external departments and territories" are part of one country - France. It is no different than the US using KH for Hawaii and all of the Pacific territories (except that the US further divides KH with the number). Note that France, like the Cook Islands (E5), the UK (VP8), Australia (VK9, VK0), Fiji (3D2), etc. have every right to assign callsigns as they see fit. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/28/2023 7:36 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote: I just wonder why ambiguous prefixes are allowed? Oh well, at least there is the override code to handle something that should not happen in the first place. |
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Paul R. Stoetzer
It’s similar to the situation here where the FCC will only issue 1x1 special event calls so you get K1N, K5D, N8S, and other similar ambiguous prefix DXpedition calls. 73, Paul, N8HM On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 09:17 Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:
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Dave AA6YQ
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As suggested, I periodically download the Overrides from Clublog and the BigCTY files, but I often see discrepancies between the two. For example, when I update the BigCTY, and then update from Clublog, I often see that Clublog has overridden a call that has just been updated from the BigCTY file. However, I am not sure I have ever run into any issues with calls I have worked, but I wonder if this is normal, and whether others have noticed it. + Yes, that's normal. + Your choices are 1. update your Override list exclusively from one source 2. update your Override list from both sources: the one you trust less first, and the one you trust more second 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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Joe Subich, W4TV
+ Your choices areThat's a tough call since CLubLog tends to miss a lot of the contest DXpedition callsigns (at least in advance). However, AD1C makes a mess of US 1x1 callsigns (has old uses in there that map to US mainland and misses "current" Atlantic/Pacific territory operations where knowing the "country" 1x1 is more "important"). I wish Jim would leave the 1x1 calls out of the Big CTY list. He can add them to the smaller contest specific CTY lists where they would appear for only a single contest. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 3/28/2023 12:37 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote: + AA6YQ comments below |
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Hi Dave,
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Many thanks for that. To me, the important part is "+ Yes, that's normal." So long as it is normal, then I am fine with it, and will continue to do what I always do, which is to use BigCTY, then Clublog. As yet, I have not run into any problems, although I am sure it will occur at some point. 73 Phil GU0SUP -----Original Message-----
From: DXLab@groups.io [mailto:DXLab@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ Sent: 28 March 2023 17:37 To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: Re: [DXLab] TO1Q call + AA6YQ comments below As suggested, I periodically download the Overrides from Clublog and the BigCTY files, but I often see discrepancies between the two. For example, when I update the BigCTY, and then update from Clublog, I often see that Clublog has overridden a call that has just been updated from the BigCTY file. However, I am not sure I have ever run into any issues with calls I have worked, but I wonder if this is normal, and whether others have noticed it. + Yes, that's normal. + Your choices are 1. update your Override list exclusively from one source 2. update your Override list from both sources: the one you trust less first, and the one you trust more second 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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Dave AA6YQ
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Many thanks for that. To me, the important part is "+ Yes, that's normal." + I receive DXing information from multiple sources, like the ARRL's DX News and the Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin. Whenever an ambiguous callsign is mentioned with whom a confirmed QSO would advance my award progress, I check the Override List for the presence of a correct entry. If there's nothing there, I add it. If an entry is present, I make sure the entry is accurate and complete; if it's not, I correct it. 73, |
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