k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN   and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

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k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN   and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

N6WS sent out emails on Friday, Feb. 24 stating that passwords were going to be required on his node effective March 1. On this email was the password that had been assigned to me. It’s possible your email went to junk or spam. If you can’t find it, you could try emailing Bill at n6ws@... <mailto:n6ws@...>
73,
Ken, KJ9B
From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hasan Schiers N0AN
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:06 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?
k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?
I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.
n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN and password is blank
When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.
If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx
sh/dx
login: password: login: password: Sorry
...and I get peer is closing in title bar.
What have I got wrong?
73, N0AN

N6WS sent out emails on Friday, Feb. 24 stating that passwords were going to be required on his node effective March 1.  On this email was the password that had been assigned to me.  It’s possible your email went to junk or spam.  If you can’t find it, you could try emailing Bill at n6ws@...

73,

Ken, KJ9B

k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN   and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

Hierro candente, batir de repente

Gil,

I forwarded a copy of my Feb 24 email to you with your password. 

73, Bill
N6WS

Likewise. I just removed it for now.

 

Outlook LT Gil W0MN

Hierro Candente Batir de Repente

44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb

 

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hasan Schiers N0AN
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 5:06 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?

 

k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN   and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

sh/dx

login: password: login: password: Sorry

 

...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

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-- 

73, Bill

N6WS

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

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I the same problem with the missed e-mail.

I find all of this strange as none of the other cluster
software (AR, CC) is requiring a password for login and
none of the other DXSpider nodes (DM4X, WA9PIE) that I
use regularly or as back-ups have implemented password
access.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

On 3/5/2023 7:50 AM, Ken Bandy, KJ9B wrote:

N6WS sent out emails on Friday, Feb. 24 stating that passwords were going to be required on his node effective March 1.  On this email was the password that had been assigned to me.  It’s possible your email went to junk or spam. If you can’t find it, you could try emailing Bill at n6ws@... <mailto:n6ws@...>


73,

Ken, KJ9B


From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hasan Schiers N0AN
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:06 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?


k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN   and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

sh/dx

login: password: login: password: Sorry


...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

For some reason I just got that mail today. Thanks for the reminder.

 

Outlook LT Gil W0MN

Hierro Candente Batir de Repente

44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb

 

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Bandy, KJ9B
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:50 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?

 

N6WS sent out emails on Friday, Feb. 24 stating that passwords were going to be required on his node effective March 1.  On this email was the password that had been assigned to me.  It’s possible your email went to junk or spam.  If you can’t find it, you could try emailing Bill at n6ws@...

 

73,

Ken, KJ9B

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hasan Schiers N0AN
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:06 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?

 

k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN   and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

sh/dx

login: password: login: password: Sorry

 

...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

--

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Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

On Mar 5, 2023, at 9:25 AM, n6ws <n6ws@...> wrote:



Gil,

I forwarded a copy of my original email today.  You should have gotten the first email on Feb 24.  Some of the emails went into spam folders, and I have made a effort to resend the emails to those that didn't receive the original email.

73, Bill
N6WS

On 3/5/2023 6:18 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

For some reason I just got that mail today. Thanks for the reminder.

 

Outlook LT Gil W0MN

Hierro Candente Batir de Repente

44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb

 

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Bandy, KJ9B
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:50 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?

 

N6WS sent out emails on Friday, Feb. 24 stating that passwords were going to be required on his node effective March 1.  On this email was the password that had been assigned to me.  It’s possible your email went to junk or spam.  If you can’t find it, you could try emailing Bill at n6ws@...

 

73,

Ken, KJ9B

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hasan Schiers N0AN
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:06 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?

 

k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN   and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

sh/dx

login: password: login: password: Sorry

 

...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

--

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Hierro candente, batir de repente

HP Laptop

There have been constant complaints about the content of
announcements and erroneous DX spots going out over the network.

That's been happening for 30 years - even before internet linking.

In the past, we have developed an extensive lists of 'bad words',
'bad spotters' and 'bad callsigns' to somewhat control what goes out
on the network, but that is not working adequately.

And it has never worked.  The stuff surrounding 3Y0J was just another
(painful) example ... I had to disconnect from CQDX as there were more
"kvetch" spots (and bad language) than useful information.

You may find it strange, that I was just being proactive in my
implementation schedule, but hopefully many, if not all, other nodes
will follow.

I simply find it strange that there is no other (apparent) movement
in that direction by other cluster software or even the other DXSpider
nodes that I use.  With a change of this magnitude, one would expect a
widely announced, uniform implementation date.

At least Dave made it easy to conform with SpotCollector.  This change
will range from painful to impossible with other user software.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/5/2023 9:19 AM, n6ws wrote:

Hi Joe,

All DXSpider nodes were encouraged to implement registration and passwords on the [Dxspider-support] reflector.  You may find it strange, that I was just being proactive in my implementation schedule, but hopefully many, if not all, other nodes will follow.  There have been constant complaints about the content of announcements and erroneous DX spots going out over the network. You obviously have not seen the complaints.  Without user registration and passwords, there is no method of controlling what goes out over the network.  In the past, we have developed an extensive lists of 'bad words', 'bad spotters' and 'bad callsigns' to somewhat control what goes out on the network, but that is not working adequately.  If some method of securing the network is not implemented, anyone can log into any unprotected node with a bogus callsign, and start flooding the network with announcements and bogus DX spots.

This is a off topic for the DXLab reflector, and if you have a complaint about the implementation of security measures on the DX Spotting Network, we should probably discuss it on the [Dxspider-support] or [sysop] reflectors.

73, Bill
N6WS

On 3/5/2023 5:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

I the same problem with the missed e-mail.

I find all of this strange as none of the other cluster
software (AR, CC) is requiring a password for login and
none of the other DXSpider nodes (DM4X, WA9PIE) that I
use regularly or as back-ups have implemented password
access.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

On 3/5/2023 7:50 AM, Ken Bandy, KJ9B wrote:

N6WS sent out emails on Friday, Feb. 24 stating that passwords were going to be required on his node effective March 1.  On this email was the password that had been assigned to me.  It’s possible your email went to junk or spam. If you can’t find it, you could try emailing Bill at n6ws@... <mailto:n6ws@...>


73,

Ken, KJ9B


From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hasan Schiers N0AN
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:06 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?


k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN   and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

sh/dx

login: password: login: password: Sorry


...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

There have been constant complaints about the content of announcements
and erroneous DX spots going out over the network.

In the past, we have developed an extensive lists of 'bad words', 'bad
spotters' and 'bad callsigns' to somewhat control what goes out on the
network, but that is not working adequately.

You may find it strange, that I was just being proactive in my
implementation schedule, but hopefully many, if not all, other nodes
will follow.

Hi Joe,

All DXSpider nodes were encouraged to implement registration and
passwords on the [Dxspider-support] reflector. You may find it
strange, that I was just being proactive in my implementation
schedule, but hopefully many, if not all, other nodes will follow.
There have been constant complaints about the content of announcements
and erroneous DX spots going out over the network. You obviously have
not seen the complaints. Without user registration and passwords,
there is no method of controlling what goes out over the network. In
the past, we have developed an extensive lists of 'bad words', 'bad
spotters' and 'bad callsigns' to somewhat control what goes out on the
network, but that is not working adequately. If some method of
securing the network is not implemented, anyone can log into any
unprotected node with a bogus callsign, and start flooding the network
with announcements and bogus DX spots.

This is a off topic for the DXLab reflector, and if you have a
complaint about the implementation of security measures on the DX
Spotting Network, we should probably discuss it on the
[Dxspider-support] or [sysop] reflectors.

73, Bill
N6WS

On 3/5/2023 5:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

I the same problem with the missed e-mail.

I find all of this strange as none of the other cluster software (AR,
CC) is requiring a password for login and none of the other DXSpider
nodes (DM4X, WA9PIE) that I use regularly or as back-ups have
implemented password access.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/5/2023 7:50 AM, Ken Bandy, KJ9B wrote:

N6WS sent out emails on Friday, Feb. 24 stating that passwords were
going to be required on his node effective March 1. On this email
was the password that had been assigned to me. It’s possible your
email went to junk or spam. If you can’t find it, you could try
emailing Bill at n6ws@... <mailto:n6ws@...>


73,

Ken, KJ9B


From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hasan Schiers
N0AN
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:06 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?


k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't.
I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected,
and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it
says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

sh/dx

login: password: login: password: Sorry


...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

How is this handled for a brand new user? How is it handled if you change your call? I agree that it is needed.

Outlook LT Gil W0MN
Hierro Candente Batir de Repente
44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb


-----Original Message-----
From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 8:43 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?

There have been constant complaints about the content of announcements
and erroneous DX spots going out over the network.

That's been happening for 30 years - even before internet linking.

In the past, we have developed an extensive lists of 'bad words', 'bad
spotters' and 'bad callsigns' to somewhat control what goes out on the
network, but that is not working adequately.

And it has never worked. The stuff surrounding 3Y0J was just another
(painful) example ... I had to disconnect from CQDX as there were more "kvetch" spots (and bad language) than useful information.

You may find it strange, that I was just being proactive in my
implementation schedule, but hopefully many, if not all, other nodes
will follow.

I simply find it strange that there is no other (apparent) movement in that direction by other cluster software or even the other DXSpider nodes that I use. With a change of this magnitude, one would expect a widely announced, uniform implementation date.

At least Dave made it easy to conform with SpotCollector. This change will range from painful to impossible with other user software.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/5/2023 9:19 AM, n6ws wrote:

Hi Joe,

All DXSpider nodes were encouraged to implement registration and
passwords on the [Dxspider-support] reflector. You may find it
strange, that I was just being proactive in my implementation
schedule, but hopefully many, if not all, other nodes will follow.
There have been constant complaints about the content of announcements
and erroneous DX spots going out over the network. You obviously have
not seen the complaints. Without user registration and passwords,
there is no method of controlling what goes out over the network. In
the past, we have developed an extensive lists of 'bad words', 'bad
spotters' and 'bad callsigns' to somewhat control what goes out on the
network, but that is not working adequately. If some method of
securing the network is not implemented, anyone can log into any
unprotected node with a bogus callsign, and start flooding the network
with announcements and bogus DX spots.

This is a off topic for the DXLab reflector, and if you have a
complaint about the implementation of security measures on the DX
Spotting Network, we should probably discuss it on the
[Dxspider-support] or [sysop] reflectors.

73, Bill
N6WS

On 3/5/2023 5:50 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

I the same problem with the missed e-mail.

I find all of this strange as none of the other cluster software (AR,
CC) is requiring a password for login and none of the other DXSpider
nodes (DM4X, WA9PIE) that I use regularly or as back-ups have
implemented password access.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/5/2023 7:50 AM, Ken Bandy, KJ9B wrote:

N6WS sent out emails on Friday, Feb. 24 stating that passwords were
going to be required on his node effective March 1. On this email
was the password that had been assigned to me. It’s possible your
email went to junk or spam. If you can’t find it, you could try
emailing Bill at n6ws@... <mailto:n6ws@...>


73,

Ken, KJ9B


From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hasan Schiers
N0AN
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:06 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?


k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't.
I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected,
and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it
says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

sh/dx

login: password: login: password: Sorry


...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

Never received any email. For me, N6WS simply stopped working on SpotCollector. Switched to a different one.

On Mar 5, 2023, at 9:25 AM, n6ws <n6ws@...> wrote:



Gil,

I forwarded a copy of my original email today.  You should have gotten the first email on Feb 24.  Some of the emails went into spam folders, and I have made a effort to resend the emails to those that didn't receive the original email.

73, Bill
N6WS

On 3/5/2023 6:18 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

For some reason I just got that mail today. Thanks for the reminder.

 

Outlook LT Gil W0MN

Hierro Candente Batir de Repente

44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb

 

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Bandy, KJ9B
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:50 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?

 

N6WS sent out emails on Friday, Feb. 24 stating that passwords were going to be required on his node effective March 1.  On this email was the password that had been assigned to me.  It’s possible your email went to junk or spam.  If you can’t find it, you could try emailing Bill at n6ws@...

 

73,

Ken, KJ9B

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Hasan Schiers N0AN
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:06 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: [DXLab] n6ws dx spider rejecting my login?

 

k1rfi still works, without problem, but all of a sudden n6ws doesn't. I get a password error (when none is required for dx spider)?

I have not changed anything in spot collector, to my knowledge.

n6ws.ddns.net 7300 N6WS N0AN   and password is blank

When I bring up the window to connect to n6ws, it says connected, and then after a time (with no info showing from the Cluster, it says peer is closing.

If I hit connect, it says Connected. If I issue the command sh/dx

sh/dx

login: password: login: password: Sorry

 

...and I get peer is closing in title bar.

What have I got wrong?

73, N0AN

--

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Hierro candente, batir de repente

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Bill, I strongly support your strengthening of the authentication required to post spots and comments to the worldwide DX Cluster network; I hope that your fellow DX Cluster operators follow suit in large numbers.

Feel free to use this forum to post DX Cluster policy and procedural announcements without my pre-approval, as most DXLab users employ SpotCollector and will find such announcements relevant.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ