For those who are looking for a nice mechanical feel *and* the Windows key, the Dell L100 (USB) is available used on E-bay for under $10, and new on Amazon for $71 with free shipping.  I have beaten mine to death through 7 or 8 years and three computers, and the only sign of wear is that some of the "E" key's label has rubbed off.  The only Windows key combination I use is Windows+Shift+S to snip bits from my screen - very handy.  I'm sure there are more but I'm not in any hurry.+

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.

On 6/15/2022 8:10 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

I have 2 of those IBM around and love love the feel and weight but they require PS2 to USB which are a bit rare and I do use Windows keys. They also have no backlighting so need a well lit room. I remember when they cost > 125 bucks. That was in the late 90s. WHAT WOUL THAT BE TODAY. 😊

 

I do use it on my MFJ 464  Keyer/Reader. It unfortunately is jot support by N1MM so also have K1EL although I ink the MFJ is FAR FAR superior.

 

Outlook LT Gil W0MN

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From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of neil_zampella
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 7:41 PM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] Annoyance to a bug. Windows API needed, please "tame" this program.

 

FWIW .... I use a 30 year old IBM 'clickity click' keyboard with a KVM system to share it with three other computers (1 desktop & 2 laptops) and have no Windows key, really don't miss it.

Why do I still use that keyboard ... I like the firm key action, and confirming key click.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/14/2022 2:19 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

Every WINDOWS program you use today can be moved with win key + arrows.

+ As documented by Microsoft in

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/keyboard-shortcuts-in-windows-dcc61a57-8ff0-cffe-9796-cb9706c75eec

+ The Windows Logo Key in combination with the left, right, up, or down arrow keys will maximize the current application's Main window, and move it to the left, right, or bottom border of the screen.

+ With the exception of Pathfinder, no DXLab application is designed to run "maximized" - meaning take up the entire screen; they are expected to share the screen with other applications. Thus there is no reason to implement the above Windows Log Key shortcuts.

     73,

            Dave, AA6YQ

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oard, can you share the model number of your Red Dragon keyboard?  Tnx

k556 rgb full sized.  Falcon z-77 compact no number pad to the right. I have had them a while so they might have new versions.

W0MU

On 6/16/2022 7:53 AM, Dick Stepanian wrote:

oard, can you share the model number of your Red Dragon keyboard?  Tnx

On Jun 18, 2022, at 3:06 PM, Jim Shorney <jimNU0C@...> wrote:


I do like my Phantom RGB but I've used buckling spring for years and the Phantom is not quite the same feel. But the tactile feedback that you have made the connection before the key bottoms out is there and that is the important part. I do like the backlighting. I previously splurged for a Unicomp with a custom PANIC key cap to use for the ESC key because I was running out of IBM Ms. I'm hard on keyboards. What a joy it was to type on a BS keyboard made with recent tooling! Most of my Ms can probably be repaired but it is a very time intensive project to do it right. One thing I can say about the M is that they seem pretty much immune to RFI.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:42:48 -0600
"W0MU" <w0mu@...> wrote:

Most of the gaming keyboards are mechanical with very good switches. I
use Red Dragons. You can replace the keys if they go bad and they give
you some spares.

W0MU

On 6/15/2022 7:03 AM, Pete Smith wrote:

For those who are looking for a nice mechanical feel *and* the Windows
key, the Dell L100 (USB) is available used on E-bay for under $10, and
new on Amazon for $71 with free shipping. I have beaten mine to death
through 7 or 8 years and three computers, and the only sign of wear is
that some of the "E" key's label has rubbed off. The only Windows key
combination I use is Windows+Shift+S to snip bits from my screen -
very handy. I'm sure there are more but I'm not in any hurry.+

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.
On 6/15/2022 8:10 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

I have 2 of those IBM around and love love the feel and weight but
they require PS2 to USB which are a bit rare and I do use Windows
keys. They also have no backlighting so need a well lit room. I
remember when they cost > 125 bucks. That was in the late 90s. WHAT
WOUL THAT BE TODAY. 😊

I do use it on my MFJ 464 Keyer/Reader. It unfortunately is jot
support by N1MM so also have K1EL although I ink the MFJ is FAR FAR
superior.

Outlook LT Gil W0MN

Hierro Candente Batir de Repente

44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb

*From:* DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *neil_zampella
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2022 7:41 PM
*To:* DXLab@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [DXLab] Annoyance to a bug. Windows API needed, please
"tame" this program.

FWIW .... I use a 30 year old IBM 'clickity click' keyboard with a
KVM system to share it with three other computers (1 desktop & 2
laptops) and have no Windows key, really don't miss it.

Why do I still use that keyboard ... I like the firm key action, and
confirming key click.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/14/2022 2:19 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

Every WINDOWS program you use today can be moved with win key
+ arrows.

+ As documented by Microsoft in

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/keyboard-shortcuts-in-windows-dcc61a57-8ff0-cffe-9796-cb9706c75eec

+ The Windows Logo Key in combination with the left, right, up,
or down arrow keys will maximize the current application's Main
window, and move it to the left, right, or bottom border of the
screen.

+ With the exception of Pathfinder, no DXLab application is
designed to run "maximized" - meaning take up the entire screen;
they are expected to share the screen with other applications.
Thus there is no reason to implement the above Windows Log Key
shortcuts.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


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Jim,
Unicomp will rebuild the model M, BTDT

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73 de KG2V
Charlie

On Jun 18, 2022, at 3:06 PM, Jim Shorney <jimNU0C@...> wrote:


I do like my Phantom RGB but I've used buckling spring for years and the Phantom is not quite the same feel. But the tactile feedback that you have made the connection before the key bottoms out is there and that is the important part. I do like the backlighting. I previously splurged for a Unicomp with a custom PANIC key cap to use for the ESC key because I was running out of IBM Ms. I'm hard on keyboards. What a joy it was to type on a BS keyboard made with recent tooling! Most of my Ms can probably be repaired but it is a very time intensive project to do it right. One thing I can say about the M is that they seem pretty much immune to RFI.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:42:48 -0600
"W0MU" <w0mu@...> wrote:

Most of the gaming keyboards are mechanical with very good switches. I
use Red Dragons. You can replace the keys if they go bad and they give
you some spares.

W0MU

On 6/15/2022 7:03 AM, Pete Smith wrote:

For those who are looking for a nice mechanical feel *and* the Windows
key, the Dell L100 (USB) is available used on E-bay for under $10, and
new on Amazon for $71 with free shipping. I have beaten mine to death
through 7 or 8 years and three computers, and the only sign of wear is
that some of the "E" key's label has rubbed off. The only Windows key
combination I use is Windows+Shift+S to snip bits from my screen -
very handy. I'm sure there are more but I'm not in any hurry.+

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.
On 6/15/2022 8:10 AM, Gilbert Baron W0MN wrote:

I have 2 of those IBM around and love love the feel and weight but
they require PS2 to USB which are a bit rare and I do use Windows
keys. They also have no backlighting so need a well lit room. I
remember when they cost > 125 bucks. That was in the late 90s. WHAT
WOUL THAT BE TODAY. 😊

I do use it on my MFJ 464 Keyer/Reader. It unfortunately is jot
support by N1MM so also have K1EL although I ink the MFJ is FAR FAR
superior.

Outlook LT Gil W0MN

Hierro Candente Batir de Repente

44.08226 N 92.51265 W EN34rb

*From:* DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *neil_zampella
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2022 7:41 PM
*To:* DXLab@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [DXLab] Annoyance to a bug. Windows API needed, please
"tame" this program.

FWIW .... I use a 30 year old IBM 'clickity click' keyboard with a
KVM system to share it with three other computers (1 desktop & 2
laptops) and have no Windows key, really don't miss it.

Why do I still use that keyboard ... I like the firm key action, and
confirming key click.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/14/2022 2:19 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

Every WINDOWS program you use today can be moved with win key
+ arrows.

+ As documented by Microsoft in

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/keyboard-shortcuts-in-windows-dcc61a57-8ff0-cffe-9796-cb9706c75eec

+ The Windows Logo Key in combination with the left, right, up,
or down arrow keys will maximize the current application's Main
window, and move it to the left, right, or bottom border of the
screen.

+ With the exception of Pathfinder, no DXLab application is
designed to run "maximized" - meaning take up the entire screen;
they are expected to share the screen with other applications.
Thus there is no reason to implement the above Windows Log Key
shortcuts.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


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I have one of these, I'm pretty fond of it:

https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/

73

W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W

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On Jun 18, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Jim Shorney <jimNU0C@...> wrote:


It's not really a question of speed. The buckling spring design and similar mechanical switch implementations reduce fatigue on the fingers because you don't need to mash the key all the way to the bottom to register. If you spend a lot of time at the keyboard you would notice the difference over a typical cheapo membrane or chiclet 'board. You get what you pay for. :)

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:49:33 -0500
"Gilbert Baron W0MN" <w0mn00@...> wrote:

Uhm I am not a good enough typist to spend > 320 (just the start without extras or shipping) for a keyboard. 😊

Outlook LT Gil W0MN

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From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jon KM8V

Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 5:09 PM

To: DXLab@groups.io

Subject: Re: [DXLab] Mechanical Keyboards.

I have one of these, I'm pretty fond of it:

https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/

73

On Jun 18, 2022, at 6:59 PM, Jim Shorney <jimNU0C@...> wrote:


So will I, eventually. It's mostly the issue of the plastic welds breaking and needing to be re-done with plastite screws. A lot of them. Time and labor intensive. And the usual cord degradation doesn't help matters. I just got a pile of Ms from another ham, I need to go through them and find a good one for the shack. My Ultra Classic will go back to Unicomp for repair when I get a round tuit because the microcontroller went psycho on me.

73

-Jim
NU0C

On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 18:14:03 -0400
"Charles Gallo" <Charlie@...> wrote:

Jim,
Unicomp will rebuild the model M, BTDT

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Charlie