Log vs LoTW mismatch.


Jon Gefaell
 

I threw an ID-10T error. The log I'm managine for another station, I put the wrong station location information in the TQSL settings for the new certificate. I have been testing with just a literal handful of QSOs to make sure any PEBKAC issues don't cause a big problem when all QSOs are uploaded, and I'm glad I did.

So, the QSL update from *my* station came back with a mismatch for the county. I changed that in TQSL on the managed station's log, and performed an 'update to LoTW' operation. The updates on both ends said "1 log entry updated". I gave that about 5 minutes, and did the same operation on my station, hoping it would change to the correct county. It has not. I just did it again, 20 minutes later and the grid didn't change to the expected, corrected in TQSL result.

Should I be more patient for LoTW, or am I not doing the right thing?

 


Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments belopw.

I threw an ID-10T error.

+ What's an ID-10T error? Which application reported it?

The log I'm managine for another station, I put the wrong station location information in the TQSL settings for the new certificate.

+ The only location information associated with a Callsign Certificate is the callsign's DXCC entity - as shown in this TQSL screenshot:

https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/data/uploads/certreqcopy.bmp

I have been testing with just a literal handful of QSOs to make sure any PEBKAC issues don't cause a big problem when all QSOs are uploaded, and I'm glad I did.

So, the QSL update from *my* station came back with a mismatch for the county.

+ Is that because your log contains a QSO with the station you're managing?

I changed that in TQSL on the managed station's log, and performed an 'update to LoTW' operation. The updates on both ends said "1 log entry updated". I gave that about 5 minutes, and did the same operation on my station, hoping it would change to the correct county. It has not. I just did it again, 20 minutes later and the grid didn't change to the expected, corrected in TQSL result.

+ If what you did was specify the wrong County in the Station Location used to submit a QSO to LOTW, you must correct that Station Location, and then resubmit the QSO to LoTW with the corrected Station Location.

+ You can determine how long it will likely take for LoTW to process a newly submitted QSO by clicking the "Check LoTW Queue" button on the QSL tab of DXKeeper's Main window with the "QSL Via" panel set to LoTW. At top of the current hour, it was about a minute.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Jon Gefaell
 

Sometimes...SMH

So, I realized I need to do a upload to LoTW operation, not a "update FROM LoTW" on the other station's log.

I just did this and got a report that said the location information would be updated, and to be certain this is what I wanted, then that it aborted because it's a duplicate. What do I do to let the process know I want it to proceed to correct the QSO?

Thanks always for your kind patience! 


On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 02:52 PM, Jon Gefaell wrote:

performed an 'update to LoTW' operation


Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

Sometimes...SMH

So, I realized I need to do a upload to LoTW operation, not a "update FROM LoTW" on the other station's log.

+ Correct!

I just did this and got a report that said the location information would be updated, and to be certain this is what I wanted, then that it aborted because it's a duplicate.

+ That's TQSL protecting the LoTW Server from users who lazily resubmit all of their logged QSOs each time they log a few more.

What do I do to let the process know I want it to proceed to correct the QSO?

+ On the "QSL Configuration" window's LoTW tab, check the "Permit uploading of QSOs already uploaded to LoTW" box.

73,

Dave. AA6YQ


Ben Coleman NJ8J
 

On 6/11/2021 6:03 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
I threw an ID-10T error.
+ What's an ID-10T error? Which application reported it?
That's a wetware error, not a software error.

Ben
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Jon Gefaell
 

Sorry, "ID-10T" is an old joke, I thought certainly you'd encountered it before. It means "IDIOT" ;) Sorry, just some gentle self-deprecation. 

I set the "Permit uploading of QSLs already uploaded to LoTW" and was able to upload that QSO successfully. Then updated the other log, and it made the expected adjustment. Wonderful

There are 6 others that must be corrected. Each time, I find that the option has become unchecked, and I must go back to check it, upload the QSO in question, then repeat for each QSO. It seems setting this option is not 'sticky'?

I suppose this is done to be protective, and I understand completely. I assume that I would need to filter the log display to contain the QSOs I intend to correct, then how would I re-upload those collectively at once?  


Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

I set the "Permit uploading of QSLs already uploaded to LoTW" and was able to upload that QSO successfully. Then updated the other log, and it made the expected adjustment. Wonderful!

There are 6 others that must be corrected. Each time, I find that the option has become unchecked, and I must go back to check it, upload the QSO in question, then repeat for each QSO. It seems setting this option is not 'sticky'?

+ That's intentional.

I suppose this is done to be protective

+ Exactly.

and I understand completely. I assume that I would need to filter the log display to contain the QSOs I intend to correct, then how would I re-upload those collectively at once?

+ On the bottom of the Main window's "Check Progress" tab, click the "Clear Select" button.

+ As you correct each QSO, set its Select item to 'Y' - it's available via the Auxiliary panel on the Main window's "Log QSOs" tab - and then click the Save button.

+ After all QSOs have been corrected, Click the Sel button in the Filter panel at the bottom of the Main window's "log QSOs" tab; this will filter the Log Page Display to contain only the QSOs whose Select items are set to 'Y'. Then on the Main window's QSL tab, click the "Add All" button to populate the QSL Queue with the QSOs you corrected. Finally, click "Upload to LoTW".

+ Note that there's also a command at the top of the Log Page Display's right-mouse menu that will set the selected QSO's Select item to 'Y'.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Jon Gefaell
 

Thank you, sir! I've moved past that hurdle now with your patient assistance. 

FWIW, in this case, I didn't have to correct the QSOs in the log, rather the county specified in the LoTW certificate. 

 


Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
FWIW, in this case, I didn't have to correct the QSOs in the log, rather the county specified in the LoTW certificate. 

+ An LoTW "Callsign Certificate" specifies a Station Callsign and that callsign's DXCC entity; it does not specify an other location information -- like a US County.

+ Location information is specified in an LoTW "Station Location".

+ When you submit a QSO to LoTW, you are doing so with two sources of information:

1. a "Callsign Certificate", which authenticates you as the source of the QSO information and specifies the Station Callsign you employed over-the-air to make the QSO

2. a "Station Location", which describes the location from which you made the QSO.

+ All of this is described in

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxkeeper/Help/QSL.htm

        73,

              Dave, AA6YQ

 

 

 


Jon Gefaell
 

Yes, of course.