Autoscroll - automatic enable
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Steve, W7WM
I have found that there are many times when I disable (inadvertently or not) auto-scroll. Sometime later, I notice the 'blinking' auto-scroll message and re-enable it and proceed.
My problem is that I forget to re-enable auto-scroll and the result is that I miss (until I catch up) many spots. Even worse, my memory is not getting any better, Would it be reasonable to add a parameter or mechanism to SC that would re-enable auto-scroll after some period (selectable) of time? Thanks, -Steve, W7WM |
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Dave AA6YQ
+ AA6YQ comments below
I have found that there are many times when I disable (inadvertently or not) auto-scroll. Sometime later, I notice the 'blinking' auto-scroll message and re-enable it and proceed. My problem is that I forget to re-enable auto-scroll and the result is that I miss (until I catch up) many spots. Even worse, my memory is not getting any better, Would it be reasonable to add a parameter or mechanism to SC that would re-enable auto-scroll after some period (selectable) of time? + It would be better for you to learn to not inadvertently enable auto-scrolling. The left-most column in each row of the Spot Database Display contains cells that are empty, but for a light gray background. Do not click in the cells of this column unless you want Autoscrolling disabled. 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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Dave, I think my issue with Autoscroll is similar to Steve's.
Is there some method that would automagically reset Autoscroll? A timer? Upon mouse leaving packet window? Upon SC loosing program focus? Anything would be better than relying on my remembering... -larry (K8UT) ------ Original Message ------
From "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq@...>
Date 1/30/2023 02:25:16
Subject Re: [DXLab] Autoscroll - automatic enable
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If clicking in the left-hand column was the only way to disable auto-scroll, I would be all set. It is the other ways of disabling auto-scroll (manually scrolling up, down, left, right) that catch me. How about making auto-scroll enable/disable only by clicking in the left gray column?
Your point of my learning not to disable it is a good one, except after 10+ years of using DXLab, I haven't learned. :-) -Steve, W7WM |
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Dave AA6YQ
+ AA6YQ comments below
If clicking in the left-hand column was the only way to disable auto-scroll, I would be all set. It is the other ways of disabling auto-scroll (manually scrolling up, down, left, right) that catch me. How about making auto-scroll enable/disable only by clicking in the left gray column? + To everyone interested in this discussion: How about I add a new option to SpotCollector that determines whether or not horizontal or vertical scrolling the Spot Database Display automatically disables auto-scroll in the Spot Database Display? This new option would default to the current behavior: scrolling disables auto-scroll. + Another alternative: an option that when enabled causes Joe DX to begin repetitively announce "autoscroll disabled!" -- like an aircraft's stall warning 73,
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I don't need to be told that auto-scroll is disabled. I need to be cattle-prodded when I should have re-enabled it. ;-)
-larry (K8UT) ------ Original Message ------
From "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq@...>
Date 1/30/2023 16:26:17
Subject Re: [DXLab] Autoscroll - automatic enable + AA6YQ comments below |
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Joe Subich, W4TV
Temporarily disabling autoscroll when one has used the mouse scroll
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wheel is a good thing. However, it needs a timeout so autoscroll is re-enabled after a period of time 60-300 seconds of no mouse activity. The "stall warning" is over the top - and would need a delay timer (so it does not start the instant auto scroll is disabled) in any case. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/30/2023 4:26 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below+ To everyone interested in this discussion: How about I add a new option to SpotCollector that determines whether or not horizontal or vertical scrolling the Spot Database Display automatically disables auto-scroll in the Spot Database Display? This new option would default to the current behavior: scrolling disables auto-scroll. |
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Dave AA6YQ
+ AA6YQ comments below
+ Here's a third alternative: a new option that, when enabled, automatically enables auto-scroll when a new Spot Database Entry is created with its Needed field containing one or more characters (meaning that that a confirmed QSO with the Entry's station would advance your progress towards the awards you're pursuing on the bands and modes you're pursuing them)? 73, |
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Jamie WW3S
Now thats a great idea !!
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On Jan 30, 2023, at 5:00 PM, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:
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Jamie WW3S
Auto re enabling it after 90 seconds or so is a good idea as well
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On Jan 30, 2023, at 4:57 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote: |
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Bruce - K5WBM
I like this option.
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Bruce - K5WBM On Jan 30, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:
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w6de
I like this option. Best Choice of all options. I have deleted my previous response and retract my vote on the option to disable.
Dave, w6de
From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dave AA6YQ via groups.io
Sent: 30 January, 2023 21:57 To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: Re: [DXLab] Autoscroll - automatic enable
+ AA6YQ comments below
+ Here's a third alternative: a new option that, when enabled, automatically enables auto-scroll when a new Spot Database Entry is created with its Needed field containing one or more characters (meaning that that a confirmed QSO with the Entry's station would advance your progress towards the awards you're pursuing on the bands and modes you're pursuing them)? 73, |
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Joe Subich, W4TV
Now this option makes sense!
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73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/30/2023 4:57 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below+ Here's a third alternative: a new option that, when enabled, automatically enables auto-scroll when a new Spot Database Entry is created with its Needed field containing one or more characters (meaning that that a confirmed QSO with the Entry's station would advance your progress towards the awards you're pursuing on the bands and modes you're pursuing them)? |
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Steve, W7WM
My favorite is to limit disabling auto-scroll, ONLY if you click on the gray column. If you want to disable it.....explicitly disable it.
I do like the option to disable the left/right/up/down causing disabling auto-scroll. This would support my favorite and leave the current behavior the same. Re-enabling based on new input seems much more complicated. A timer would be simpler (I think). -Steve, W7WM |
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david.hewett
This 3rd alternative would be very useful! 73,
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 04:24:34 PM CST, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:
Now this option makes sense! 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/30/2023 4:57 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote: > + AA6YQ comments below > >> >> I don't need to be told that auto-scroll is disabled. >> I need to be cattle-prodded when I should have re-enabled it. ;-) >> > > + Here's a third alternative: a new option that, when enabled, automatically enables auto-scroll when a new Spot Database Entry is created with its Needed field containing one or more characters (meaning that that a confirmed QSO with the Entry's station would advance your progress towards the awards you're pursuing on the bands and modes you're pursuing them)? > > 73, > > Dave, AA6YQ > |
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Joe DX barking at me, no! Option 3 please. Thanks 73 Kent N6WT On Mon, Jan 30, 2023, 14:36 Steve, W7WM <w7wm.boone@...> wrote: My favorite is to limit disabling auto-scroll, ONLY if you click on the gray column. If you want to disable it.....explicitly disable it. |
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Dave AA6YQ
+ AA6YQ comments below
My favorite is to limit disabling auto-scroll, ONLY if you click on the gray column. If you want to disable it.....explicitly disable it. + I expect that re-enabling auto-scroll based on the creation of a new, "needed" Spot Database Entry would be straightforward to implement. Any scheme involving a time requires enabling the user to specify a duration, which increases user-perceived complexity. + When commenting on which option you consider the most beneficial, please ignore any concerns regarding "difficulty of implementation". 73, |
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I like that! 😊
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From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ
Sent: 30 January 2023 15:26 To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: Re: [DXLab] Autoscroll - automatic enable
+ AA6YQ comments below
+ To everyone interested in this discussion: How about I add a new option to SpotCollector that determines whether or not horizontal or vertical scrolling the Spot Database Display automatically disables auto-scroll in the Spot Database Display? This new option would default to the current behavior: scrolling disables auto-scroll. + Another alternative: an option that when enabled causes Joe DX to begin repetitively announce "autoscroll disabled!" -- like an aircraft's stall warning 73,
-- W0MN EN34rb 44.08226 N 92.51265 W Hierro candente, batir de repente HP Laptop |
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Respectfully, I am voting for the first option of determining whether or not horizontal or vertical scrolling auto-disables auto-scroll. As for the other option, not everyone I assume is using audible Joe DX announcements and I count myself in that group.
/Thanks
Joe K8FC
From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 16:26 To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: Re: [DXLab] Autoscroll - automatic enable
+ AA6YQ comments below
+ To everyone interested in this discussion: How about I add a new option to SpotCollector that determines whether or not horizontal or vertical scrolling the Spot Database Display automatically disables auto-scroll in the Spot Database Display? This new option would default to the current behavior: scrolling disables auto-scroll. + Another alternative: an option that when enabled causes Joe DX to begin repetitively announce "autoscroll disabled!" -- like an aircraft's stall warning 73,
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Me as well. This option makes sense.
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Joe K8FC -----Original Message-----
From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Monday, January 30, 2023 17:24 To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: Re: [DXLab] Autoscroll - automatic enable Now this option makes sense! 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/30/2023 4:57 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote: + AA6YQ comments below+ Here's a third alternative: a new option that, when enabled, automatically enables auto-scroll when a new Spot Database Entry is created with its Needed field containing one or more characters (meaning that that a confirmed QSO with the Entry's station would advance your progress towards the awards you're pursuing on the bands and modes you're pursuing them)? |
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