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Dave AA6YQ
+ AA6YQ comments below
Check this out to skip the export/import step - https://www.dxlabsuite.com/N1MM-DXKeeper/index.htm + Using the N1MM-DXKeeper Gateway is certainly more convenient than exporting/importing all new contest QSOs at the end of a contest -- but it does add time to the process of logging a QSO, which may not be desirable if maximizing the QSO rate is the primary objective. 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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John Huffman
Check this out to skip the export/import step -
https://www.dxlabsuite.com/N1MM-DXKeeper/index.htm K1ESE |
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Dave AA6YQ
+ AA6YQ comments below
Just thinking, is this where DXLabs DXKeeper Capture is supposed to work? + No. DXKeeper's Capture window is optimized for logging new QSOs in real time. + DXKeeper also provides a logging mechanism that is optimized for recorded already completed QSOs from information in written notes or a paper logbook. In this earlier post, Robie AJ4F pointed you at the "how to" documentation for this mechanism: https://groups.io/g/DXLab/message/210531 + The Reference documentation for that mechanism is here: https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxkeeper/Help/LogCompletedMain.htm + Learning and exploiting the available keyboard shortcuts will increase the rate at which you can record your QSOs in DXKeeper. + I suggest that you also review these two articles: https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GettingStarted + and https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/Logging 73, Dvae, AA6YQ |
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Dave AA6YQ
+ AA6YQ comments below
How does a CW contester log contacts at high speeds running 2 or 3 contacts per minute? I know that is to fast for hand logging so it must be automatic. How does that work? + With default signal reports enabled, you can log a QSO in DXKeeper's Capture window by typing each letter of the callsign, striking the Enter key, and striking CTRL-L. With callbook lookups deferred until the end of the operating session, a hunt-and-peck typist can accomplish that in 10 seconds, supporting a rate of 6 QSOs per minute. Enable the Run-mode option and log via the Main window's "Log QSOs" tab, and the need to strike CTRL-L is eliminated, further increasing the rate. Logging from WinWarbler is even faster, as callsigns can be recorded by clicking on decoded text; see https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/CapturingDecodedInformation + Serious contesting, however, requires more than just logging callsigns. The correct transmit exchange for the current contest must be sent, and the received exchange must be recorded in a way that facilities Cabrillo generation after the contest is over. Realtime score-keeping enables the user to optimize his or her actions during the contest. Logging applications specialized for contesting - like ACLog, DXLog, N1MM, WinTest, and WriteLog - provide these capabilities. DXKeeper's support for contesting is limited to generating the correct transmit exchange, recording the receive exchange, and generating Cabrillo files so that DXers participating in a contest in search of "needed new ones" can fulfill their obligations to the participants in that contest. No realtime scoring is provided. + Many contesters use a logging application specialized for contesting, and then export/import their contest QSOs to DXKeeper after the contest is over. An en-masse callbook lookup can populate contest QSOs with information not recorded during the contest (like your QSO partner's name and QTH), and easily submit contest QSOs to Club Log, eQSL, and LoTW. There's a bridge between N1MM and DXKeeper that in real time transfers each QSO logged in N1MM to DXKeeper, but this is not recommended if maximizing the QSO rate is your primary objective: https://www.dxlabsuite.com/N1MM-DXKeeper/index.htm + You'll find more information here: https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxkeeper/Help/Contesting.htm + and here: https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/Contesting 73, Dave, AA6YQ |
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Robie - AJ4F
Here's a link to documentation on your topic: Here is where that information was found and there's a whole lot more there: You will be able to research for yourself using this and its associated pages. Robie AJ4F On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 2:11 PM w5ec <bhw5ec@...> wrote: Just thinking, is this where DXLabs DXKeeper Capture is supposed to work? |
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w5ec
Just thinking, is this where DXLabs DXKeeper Capture is supposed to work?
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w5ec
OK, I use DXLabs DXKeeper for my log but I have to manually transfer my paper log into DXKeeper. Is there a way to enter the log info directly onto DXKeeper in real time?
That would certainly make things easier! I have no need for a Carrillo file. As you can probably tell, I am a diehard paper logger but I am looking for a way to move up. Bill W5EC |
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Dave Fugleberg
Most of us use software specifically designed for contesting, like N1MM+. Minimal data entry is required for each contact- generally call sign and whatever unique exchange info for that contest (state, name, number, or whatever). All other items like time, band frequency, etc are automated. All the common items you need to send (CQ, your call, your exchange, etc) are programmed into dedicated function keys and the computer does the keying, so your hands never leave the keyboard. The limiting factor is how well you can copy the calls and exchanges accurately the first time without asking for fills, and whether you can get your fingers to enter it at the same time. I'm still working on that part :) 73 de W0ZF On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 10:48 AM w5ec <bhw5ec@...> wrote: How does a CW contester log contacts at high speeds running 2 or 3 contacts per minute? |
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Robie - AJ4F
No. A general logging program, like DXLabs has many more features, such as awards tracking, contains much more information about each contact, etc. which you will really use. N1MM+ generates the Carrillo file which you use to enter the contest and an ADIF file which you import into your general logging program (DXLabs). I then use DXLabs to upload my QSOs to Logbook of the World for chasing DX countries and grid squares. Other general logging programs I.e. ACLog work in a similar fashion.
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I export an ADI file from N1MM+ after each contest and import it into DXKeeper.
Jim N7US
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Date: 10/9/22 12:30 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] Contest Logging #file
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w5ec
OK, is the logging program then also used for daily personal logging?
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I’m not a touch typist and do OK in CW contests using N1MM+.
73, Jim N7US
From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of
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Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:57 To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: Re: [DXLab] Contest Logging #file
You need to be a skilled touch typist. The contesting programs works with a minimum of keystrokes and a lot of automation set up In advance for the particular contest.
73, Dave, w6de
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How does a CW contester log contacts at high speeds running 2 or 3 contacts per minute? _._,_._,_ |
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w6de
You need to be a skilled touch typist. The contesting programs works with a minimum of keystrokes and a lot of automation set up In advance for the particular contest.
73, Dave, w6de
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w5ec via groups.io
Sent: 9 October, 2022 15:49 To: DXLab@groups.io Subject: [DXLab] Contest Logging #file
How does a CW contester log contacts at high speeds running 2 or 3 contacts per minute? |
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Robie - AJ4F
There are a number of contest logging programs designed for that purpose. I prefer N1MM Logger +. Maintaining a QSO rate of between 40 and 100 QSOs per hour is relatively easy , assuming your station transmits a strong signal. Much higher QSO rates are possible with a skilled operator using a good station. On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, 10:48 AM w5ec <bhw5ec@...> wrote: How does a CW contester log contacts at high speeds running 2 or 3 contacts per minute? |
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w5ec
How does a CW contester log contacts at high speeds running 2 or 3 contacts per minute?
I know that is to fast for hand logging so it must be automatic. How does that work? |
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