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Commander not recognizing Kenwood TS-440SAT


Steve
 

MicroHAM USB Interface II is operating correctly, but Commander does not reflect the radio frequency, or anything else. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Steve W1LV

Here is part of the error log:
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > CI-V Commander version 14.6.2
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > App.Path          : C:\DXLab\Commander
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > App.exe           : CI-V Commander
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > Module            : C:\DXLab\Commander\CI-V Commander.exe
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > Operating System  : Windows 10 Enterprise (64-bit) build 18363
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > Locale ID         : 1033 (0x409)
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > ANSI CodePage     : 1252
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > OEM CodePage      : 437
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > Country           : United States
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > Language          : English
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > DecimalSeparator  : .
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > ThousandSeparator : ,
2020-06-15 13:46:11     > DXLab Apps        :
2020-06-15 13:47:19     > Monitors          : 1
2020-06-15 13:47:19     > Monitor 1
2020-06-15 13:47:19     >    width          : 1707
2020-06-15 13:47:19     >    height         : 960
2020-06-15 13:47:19     >    dimensions     : (0, 0)-(1707, 960)
2020-06-15 13:47:19.133 > CIVModule.PollXcvr, Idle Mode = 2, PollCount = 52
2020-06-15 13:47:19.149 > CIVModule.SendCommand: IF;


g4wjs
 

On 15/06/2020 14:58, Steve wrote:
MicroHAM USB Interface II is operating correctly, but Commander does not reflect the radio frequency, or anything else. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Steve W1LV
Hi Steve,

do you have the RTS/CTS flow control options set correctly?



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73

Bill

G4WJS.


Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below


On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:09 AM, g4wjs wrote:

On 15/06/2020 14:58, Steve wrote:
MicroHAM USB Interface II is operating correctly, but Commander does not reflect the radio frequency, or anything else. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Steve W1LV
Hi Steve,

do you have the RTS/CTS flow control options set correctly?

+ Step-by-step configuration instructions are here:

<https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/TranceiverControlKenwood>

        73,

                Dave, AA6YQ


Joe Subich, W4TV
 

do you have the RTS/CTS flow control options set correctly?
microHAM USB Interface II does not pass RTS/CTS. The radio RTS
line is held high ("always on") by the hardware. The UART RTS
and DTR "outputs" are used for PTT and CW respectively.

In Commander one would set DTR to None (PC Generated CW is not
available with Commander) and set RTS to "X" (use for PTT).

In WSJT-X one would set DTR to None and use RTS on the same
COM port as CAT (but preferably not CAT commands). Without
looking at "File -> Settings" Handshake should be "none",
PTT Method = RTS and Port should be the same as "Serial Port"
in CAT Control.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-06-15 1:09 PM, g4wjs wrote:
On 15/06/2020 14:58, Steve wrote:
MicroHAM USB Interface II is operating correctly, but Commander does not reflect the radio frequency, or anything else. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Steve W1LV
Hi Steve,
do you have the RTS/CTS flow control options set correctly?


Steve
 

I do not think I do, as there seems to be disagreement in the suggestions in the MicroHam setup for N1MM+ vs DxLabSuite. Currently in Commander config, Port 5, 4800, 8, N, 2 stop bits, DTR Off, RTS On. When I left it earlier the command port was 2. That switch is a first.


Steve
 

Joe, I have DTR Off (there is not an option for None,) and the RTS choices are Off, On, Tx and Flow. Should I use Tx?


Steve
 

Hi Dave,
Let me look again for the radio settings for baud rate, parity, word length, and stop bits that match your radio's settings. 

I'm not sure what to make of this:
  1. set the RTS selector to On unless you're using a Kenwood TS-890's USB interface, in which case the RTS selector should be set of Off

  2. if an external interface is being used and it derives its power from the serial port's DTR modem control signal, set the DTR selector to On

    I think the 'external interface; is the MicroHAM unit, so DTR is On?
    Thanks,
    Steve


Joe Subich, W4TV
 

Joe, I have DTR Off (there is not an option for None,)
OK, I was working from memory. Off is fine.

the RTS choices are Off, On, Tx and Flow. Should I use Tx?
Yes, if you are using Commander for PTT. See the example
configuration for USB Interface II with DLab Suite is the
USB II area at www.microHAM-USA.com/Support.html.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-06-15 3:26 PM, Steve wrote:
Joe, I have DTR Off (there is not an option for None,) and the RTS choices are Off, On, Tx and Flow. Should I use Tx?


Joe Subich, W4TV
 

The only differences between the DXLab Suite and N1MM+ configurations
are in the CW/PTT settings and are due to the differences in the way
DXLab Suite and N1MM+ do CW/FSK.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2020-06-15 3:22 PM, Steve wrote:
I do not think I do, as there seems to be disagreement in the suggestions in the MicroHam setup for N1MM+ vs DxLabSuite. Currently in Commander config, Port 5, 4800, 8, N, 2 stop bits, DTR Off, RTS On. When I left it earlier the command port was 2. That switch is a first.


Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

Hi Dave,
Let me look again for the radio settings for baud rate, parity, word length, and stop bits that match your radio's settings.

I'm not sure what to make of this:


a. set the RTS selector to On unless you're using a Kenwood TS-890's USB interface, in which case the RTS selector should be set of Off

b. if an external interface is being used and it derives its power from the serial port's DTR modem control signal, set the DTR selector to On

I think the 'external interface; is the MicroHAM unit, so DTR is On?

+ Since you're using a microHam interface, I will defer to Joe W4TV.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Steve
 

I believe I have the USB Interface II and DxLab working together. One of the programs had the baud rate at 9600, where the IC-10 kit in the TS-440S needs 4800. I was a little concerned with having RTS On, because the PTT light in the USB Interface came on and stayed on, however, the radio was not transmitting. Spot Collector is working, too.

I am going to try and get N1MM+ working with them now, but that appears to need a different setting for RTS, which I don't understand yet.

Dave, Joe, thank you for your help.
73 Steve W1LV


Joe Subich, W4TV
 

I was a little concerned with having RTS On, because the PTT light in
the USB Interface came on and stayed on, however, the radio was not
transmitting.
Check that the ACC plug is connected properly. The 13 pin DIN that
Kenwood (and Icom) uses can be inserted when rotated 180 degrees
("upside down"). Signals on the ACC connector (including PTT) will
not be correct when the DIN 13 is connected improperly.

I am going to try and get N1MM+ working with them now, but that
appears to need a different setting for RTS, which I don't understand
yet.
N1MM+ needs PTT on the same port as FSK/CW (for FSK RTTY). The example
shows that configuration which takes advantage of microHAM USB Device
Router's ability to split the hardware UART to two virtual ports - one
for CAT (RxD/TxD) and the other for DTR (CW)/RTS (PTT). Since RTTY in
your TS-440S is actually AFSK you can configure N1MM+ exactly the same
as DXLab Suite (Commander/WinWarbler) with PTT on the CAT port RTS line
and CW on a separate port.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-06-16 10:02 AM, Steve wrote:
I believe I have the USB Interface II and DxLab working together. One of the programs had the baud rate at 9600, where the IC-10 kit in the TS-440S needs 4800. I was a little concerned with having RTS On, because the PTT light in the USB Interface came on and stayed on, however, the radio was not transmitting. Spot Collector is working, too.
I am going to try and get N1MM+ working with them now, but that appears to need a different setting for RTS, which I don't understand yet.
Dave, Joe, thank you for your help.
73 Steve W1LV