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Irwin Darack <idarack@...>
 

Is there a way to set up DxLab (WinWabler?) to copy CW just as it does for RTTY and PSK31

Thanks

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Irwin KD3TB
iain macdonnell - N6ML
 

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Irwin Darack idarack@gmail.com [dxlab]
<dxlab@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Is there a way to set up DxLab (WinWabler?) to copy CW just as it does for RTTY and PSK31
See:

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/CW_Operation

73,

~iain / N6ML
iain macdonnell - N6ML
 

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:30 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <ar@dseven.org> wrote:
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Irwin Darack idarack@gmail.com [dxlab]
<dxlab@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Is there a way to set up DxLab (WinWabler?) to copy CW just as it does for RTTY and PSK31
See:

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/CW_Operation
and, if you happen to have a K3[S] or KX3;

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/K3CWRTTYXcv

(this page should really be linked to the CW_Operation one)

73,

~iain / N6ML
Dave AA6YQ
 

AA6YQ comments below
-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxlab@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 5:55 PM
To: dxlab@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [dxlab] Copy CW

Is there a way to set up DxLab (WinWabler?) to copy CW just as it does for RTTY and PSK31

WinWarbler does not include an integral CW decoder, as it does for RTTY and PSK31. However, there are several ways for WinWarbler to display decoded CW:
1. if you use an Elecraft K3 or KX3, WinWarbler can display the CW decoded by the transceiver:

<http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/K3CWRTTYXcv>

2. if you have an external HF modem (PK-232, KAM, MFJ, etc.) connected to your transceiver, WinWarbler can display the CW decoded by this modem:

<http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/ExternalModemControl>

3. you can run the application CWGet and a "bridge" developed by Dick W3OA to enable WinWarbler to display the CW decoded by CWGet:

<http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html>

73,

Dave, AA6YQ
Dave AA6YQ
 

AA6YQ comments below
-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxlab@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 6:33 PM
To: dxlab
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Copy CW

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:30 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <ar@dseven.org> wrote:
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Irwin Darack idarack@gmail.com [dxlab]
<dxlab@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Is there a way to set up DxLab (WinWabler?) to copy CW just as it
does for RTTY and PSK31
See:

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/CW_Operation
and, if you happen to have a K3[S] or KX3;

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/K3CWRTTYXcv

(this page should really be linked to the CW_Operation one)

Agreed. I added a "Setting up for CW Decoding" section to
<http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/CW_Operation>

Thanks!
73,

Dave, AA6YQ
Pete W1RM
 

The best way to copy CW is to learn it yourself.  The CWops CW Academy has graduated many new CW operators and best of all it’s free.  For more information, see http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html

 

The graduation rate is more than 80%! 

 

Pete, W1RM

 

From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 5:55 PM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: [dxlab] Copy CW

 

 

Is there a way to set up DxLab (WinWabler?) to copy CW just as it does for RTTY and PSK31

 

Thanks

--

Irwin KD3TB
Peter Laws / N5UWY
 

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@ambersoft.com
[dxlab] <dxlab@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

3. you can run the application CWGet and a "bridge" developed by Dick W3OA to enable WinWarbler to display the CW decoded by CWGet:

<http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html>

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page
like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your
computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on
a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "

Is this no longer actively maintained? Is it safe to use?




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Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
Dave AA6YQ
 

AA6YQ comments below
-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxlab@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 12:17 PM
To: dxlab@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Copy CW

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@ambersoft.com [dxlab] <dxlab@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

3. you can run the application CWGet and a "bridge" developed by Dick W3OA to enable WinWarbler to display the CW decoded by CWGet:

<http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html>

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "

I strongly suspect that having any DXLab application installed fulfills this prerequisite. I don’t recall anyone ever reporting a problem here, nor has my testing revealed any problems.
Is this no longer actively maintained?

Its author - Dick W3OA - is very responsive to requests for assistance. No further functional enhancement is needed, in my opinion.
Is it safe to use?

As I said, I don’t recall anyone ever reporting a problem here.
73,

Dave, AA6YQ
Joe - W9RF
 

Peter,


Please keep us informed as to the install of CWGet, I too was wanting to get rid of my PK232 (for the real estate) and use CWGet but didn't want to install and older runtime environment on my Win7 machine.

If I understand Dave correctly, the runtime isn't needed if you have DXLabs installed?


73,

W9RF - Joe


From: "Peter Laws plaws0@... [dxlab]"
To: "dxlab@..."
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Copy CW

 
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@...
[dxlab] <dxlab@...> wrote:
>
> 3. you can run the application CWGet and a "bridge" developed by Dick W3OA to enable WinWarbler to display the CW decoded by CWGet:
>
>

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page
like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your
computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on
a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "

Is this no longer actively maintained? Is it safe to use?

--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
Dave AA6YQ
 

AA6YQ comments below
-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxlab@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 2:51 PM
To: dxlab@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Copy CW

Please keep us informed as to the install of CWGet, I too was wanting to get rid of my PK232 (for the real estate) and use CWGet but didn't want to install and older runtime environment on my Win7 machine.

If I understand Dave correctly, the runtime isn't needed if you have DXLabs installed?

Installing your first DXLab application installs a VB6 runtime. I would think that this would satisfy the CWGet-to-WinWarbler bridge. If not, installing the VB5 runtime should not be problematic.
73,

Dave, AA6YQ
Joe - W9RF
 

Dave,


Thanks for letting me know, I'll try the install soon.



73,

W9RF - Joe





From: "' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@... [dxlab]"
To: dxlab@...
Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2016 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [dxlab] Copy CW

 
>>>AA6YQ comments below

-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 2:51 PM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Copy CW

Please keep us informed as to the install of CWGet, I too was wanting to get rid of my PK232 (for the real estate) and use CWGet but didn't want to install and older runtime environment on my Win7 machine.

If I understand Dave correctly, the runtime isn't needed if you have DXLabs installed?

>>>Installing your first DXLab application installs a VB6 runtime. I would think that this would satisfy the CWGet-to-WinWarbler bridge. If not, installing the VB5 runtime should not be problematic.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ
Brian D <brian13434@...>
 

"Peter Laws plaws0@gmail.com [dxlab]" <dxlab@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@ambersoft.com [dxlab]
<dxlab@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

3. you can run the application CWGet and a "bridge" developed by Dick
W3OA to enable WinWarbler to display the CW decoded by CWGet:

<http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html>

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page like
"You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your computer"
(with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on a Windows 7
computer produced mixed results. "

Is this no longer actively maintained? Is it safe to use?
Irecently installed CWget and CWgettowinwarbler on my windows 7 computer and
can report that it is working well.
Levels are fairly critical into CWget but good results have been had.

--
Brian Duffell
G3VGZ G8AOE
Yarm on Tees
England
Martin Meserve - K7MEM
 


---In dxlab@..., <plaws0@...> wrote :

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@...
[dxlab] <dxlab@...> wrote:
>
> 3. you can run the application CWGet and a "bridge" developed by Dick W3OA to enable WinWarbler to display the CW decoded by CWGet:
>
> <http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html>

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page
like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your
computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on
a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "

Is this no longer actively maintained? Is it safe to use?
--

Yes, this does work. And, as far as I can tell, it is safe. I have been testing several PSK/RTTY/CW software over the past 30 days, on Windows and Linux. I found Linux was too limiting in what I could test with, so I went to Windows. In my shack I have a HP G62 laptop with 4 GB memory that was upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 Home. I finally decided that DXlab makes the best use of the available machines.

While I don't really need a computer to copy CW, as I have been a CW operator for 50 years. But I have always been interested in having a computer decode CW, for all of those years. Just this week I tried installing CWGet and the "CWGettoWinwarbler". When I first tried it, I received an error, because I did not have the "Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment" installed. I then downloaded and installed the EXE. linked to on "http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html". Once I did that it worked fine.

"CWGettoWinwarbler" assumes that CWGet and Winwarbler are already running when you start it. If you start "CWGettoWinwarbler" manually you should get a message in Winwarbler that the connection was successful. I added both to the Launcher configuration to "Apps started after DSLab Appa". So far, it all seem to work as advertised.

My first attempt on making a computer send and receive CW was about 30 years ago using my Commodore 64. I used it while I was living in Germany and operating as DA2EU. I still have the interface, but the computer died a long time ago.

Martin - K7MEM
Peter Laws / N5UWY
 


On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:51 PM, ray cathode ray_cathode1@... [dxlab] <dxlab@...> wrote:

Please keep us informed as to the install of CWGet, I too was wanting to get rid of my PK232 (for the real estate) and use CWGet but didn't want to install and older runtime environment on my Win7 machine.

​CwGet isn't the issue.  Been so satisfied with that program that I actually registered​ it - first piece of software I think I've paid for (no, I don't pirate stuff).  And a DXLab Suite user for years.  Just have never used the connector.

But if Dave says it's OK, then that's good enough for me.  Hopefully get it installed soon. 





--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
Larry Knain
 

I have run CWGet and the bridge on Win8.1 and Win7 without incident in past couple of years. I don't run it often as I am also a longtime CW op (50+ years).

73, Larry W6NWS

On 5/5/2016 5:20 PM, k7mem@... [dxlab] wrote:
 

---In dxlab@..., wrote :

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@...
[dxlab] <dxlab@...> wrote:
>
> 3. you can run the application CWGet and a "bridge" developed by Dick W3OA to enable WinWarbler to display the CW decoded by CWGet:
>
> <http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html>

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page
like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your
computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on
a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "

Is this no longer actively maintained? Is it safe to use?
--

Yes, this does work. And, as far as I can tell, it is safe. I have been testing several PSK/RTTY/CW software over the past 30 days, on Windows and Linux. I found Linux was too limiting in what I could test with, so I went to Windows. In my shack I have a HP G62 laptop with 4 GB memory that was upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 Home. I finally decided that DXlab makes the best use of the available machines.

While I don't really need a computer to copy CW, as I have been a CW operator for 50 years. But I have always been interested in having a computer decode CW, for all of those years. Just this week I tried installing CWGet and the "CWGettoWinwarbler". When I first tried it, I received an error, because I did not have the "Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment" installed. I then downloaded and installed the EXE. linked to on "http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html". Once I did that it worked fine.

"CWGettoWinwarbler" assumes that CWGet and Winwarbler are already running when you start it. If you start "CWGettoWinwarbler" manually you should get a message in Winwarbler that the connection was successful. I added both to the Launcher configuration to "Apps started after DSLab Appa". So far, it all seem to work as advertised.

My first attempt on making a computer send and receive CW was about 30 years ago using my Commodore 64. I used it while I was living in Germany and operating as DA2EU. I still have the interface, but the computer died a long time ago.

Martin - K7MEM
Andrew OBrien
 

and don't forget CW decode (and send) via Multipsk which interfaces seamlessly with Commander .  The "QRP decode" feature works well.  Alternatively,  CW Skimmer is the very best at decoding and you can sync with Commander  and Winwarbler for sending CW.

Andy K3UK

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Larry w6nws@... [dxlab] <dxlab@...> wrote:
 

I have run CWGet and the bridge on Win8.1 and Win7 without incident in past couple of years. I don't run it often as I am also a longtime CW op (50+ years).

73, Larry W6NWS

On 5/5/2016 5:20 PM, k7mem@... [dxlab] wrote:
 

---In dxlab@..., wrote :

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@...
[dxlab] <dxlab@...> wrote:
>
> 3. you can run the application CWGet and a "bridge" developed by Dick W3OA to enable WinWarbler to display the CW decoded by CWGet:
>
> <http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html>

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page
like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your
computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on
a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "

Is this no longer actively maintained? Is it safe to use?
--

Yes, this does work. And, as far as I can tell, it is safe. I have been testing several PSK/RTTY/CW software over the past 30 days, on Windows and Linux. I found Linux was too limiting in what I could test with, so I went to Windows. In my shack I have a HP G62 laptop with 4 GB memory that was upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 Home. I finally decided that DXlab makes the best use of the available machines.

While I don't really need a computer to copy CW, as I have been a CW operator for 50 years. But I have always been interested in having a computer decode CW, for all of those years. Just this week I tried installing CWGet and the "CWGettoWinwarbler". When I first tried it, I received an error, because I did not have the "Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment" installed. I then downloaded and installed the EXE. linked to on "http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html". Once I did that it worked fine.

"CWGettoWinwarbler" assumes that CWGet and Winwarbler are already running when you start it. If you start "CWGettoWinwarbler" manually you should get a message in Winwarbler that the connection was successful. I added both to the Launcher configuration to "Apps started after DSLab Appa". So far, it all seem to work as advertised.

My first attempt on making a computer send and receive CW was about 30 years ago using my Commodore 64. I used it while I was living in Germany and operating as DA2EU. I still have the interface, but the computer died a long time ago.

Martin - K7MEM
Larry Knain
 

FLDigi also copies CW. I tried it a couple of times for grins but have not done a serious trial of it. I think there is also a bridge for it. It can also copy/send many digital forms.


73, Larry  W6NWS


On 5/5/2016 9:03 PM, 'Andrew O'Brien' k3ukandy@... [dxlab] wrote:
 
and don't forget CW decode (and send) via Multipsk which interfaces seamlessly with Commander .  The "QRP decode" feature works well.  Alternatively,  CW Skimmer is the very best at decoding and you can sync with Commander  and Winwarbler for sending CW.

Andy K3UK

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Larry w6nws@... [dxlab] <dxlab@...> wrote:
 

I have run CWGet and the bridge on Win8.1 and Win7 without incident in past couple of years. I don't run it often as I am also a longtime CW op (50+ years).

73, Larry W6NWS

On 5/5/2016 5:20 PM, k7mem@... [dxlab] wrote:
 

---In dxlab@..., wrote :

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 7:10 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@...
[dxlab] <dxlab@...> wrote:
>
> 3. you can run the application CWGet and a "bridge" developed by Dick W3OA to enable WinWarbler to display the CW decoded by CWGet:
>
> <http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html>

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page
like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your
computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on
a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "

Is this no longer actively maintained? Is it safe to use?
--

Yes, this does work. And, as far as I can tell, it is safe. I have been testing several PSK/RTTY/CW software over the past 30 days, on Windows and Linux. I found Linux was too limiting in what I could test with, so I went to Windows. In my shack I have a HP G62 laptop with 4 GB memory that was upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 Home. I finally decided that DXlab makes the best use of the available machines.

While I don't really need a computer to copy CW, as I have been a CW operator for 50 years. But I have always been interested in having a computer decode CW, for all of those years. Just this week I tried installing CWGet and the "CWGettoWinwarbler". When I first tried it, I received an error, because I did not have the "Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment" installed. I then downloaded and installed the EXE. linked to on "http://dickwilliams.byethost17.com/CWGetToWinwarbler.html". Once I did that it worked fine.

"CWGettoWinwarbler" assumes that CWGet and Winwarbler are already running when you start it. If you start "CWGettoWinwarbler" manually you should get a message in Winwarbler that the connection was successful. I added both to the Launcher configuration to "Apps started after DSLab Appa". So far, it all seem to work as advertised.

My first attempt on making a computer send and receive CW was about 30 years ago using my Commodore 64. I used it while I was living in Germany and operating as DA2EU. I still have the interface, but the computer died a long time ago.

Martin - K7MEM


Peter Laws / N5UWY
 

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:35 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@ambersoft.com
[dxlab] <dxlab@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "

I strongly suspect that having any DXLab application installed fulfills this prerequisite. I don’t recall anyone ever reporting a problem here, nor has my testing revealed any problems.

Finally getting around to setting this up.

Running the bridge fails with a message about not having the VB5
runtime ("The program can't start because MSVBVM50.DLL is missing from
your computer.")

DXLab Suite is all current, CwGet is v2.37 (I just updated it from
2.36 but it fails either way). Windows 7 Enterprise.

Given that VB6 -- VB5's successor -- was "retired" by MS nearly a
decade ago, what are the risks associated with running software this
old? (VB5, not the CwGet bridge)


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
Joe - W9RF
 

Dave,


After installing CwGet and the bridge I too had the error that MSVBVM50.DLL is missing.

I later downloaded MSVBVM50.DLL and threw it in the CwGet directory and it's happy now.

Maybe it's a "path" issue?


73,

W9RF - Joe






From: "Peter Laws plaws0@... [dxlab]" To: "dxlab@..."
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Copy CW

 
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:35 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@...
[dxlab] wrote:
>
> I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "
>
>>>>I strongly suspect that having any DXLab application installed fulfills this prerequisite. I don’t recall anyone ever reporting a problem here, nor has my testing revealed any problems.

Finally getting around to setting this up.

Running the bridge fails with a message about not having the VB5
runtime ("The program can't start because MSVBVM50.DLL is missing from
your computer.")

DXLab Suite is all current, CwGet is v2.37 (I just updated it from
2.36 but it fails either way). Windows 7 Enterprise.

Given that VB6 -- VB5's successor -- was "retired" by MS nearly a
decade ago, what are the risks associated with running software this
old? (VB5, not the CwGet bridge)

--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
Dave AA6YQ
 

+++ more AA6YQ comments below

-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dxlab@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:13 PM
To: dxlab@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Copy CW

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:35 PM, ' Dave AA6YQ' aa6yq@ambersoft.com [dxlab] <dxlab@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I would like to run this but I worry when I see things on the page like "You will need the Visual Basic 5.0 runtime environment on your computer" (with an URL that has "win98" in the path) and "Testing on a Windows 7 computer produced mixed results. "

I strongly suspect that having any DXLab application installed fulfills this prerequisite.
+++ My suspicion was incorrect. MSVBVM50.DLL must be present.


I don t recall anyone ever reporting a problem here, nor has my testing revealed any problems.


Finally getting around to setting this up.

Running the bridge fails with a message about not having the VB5 runtime ("The program can't start because MSVBVM50.DLL is missing from your computer.")

DXLab Suite is all current, CwGet is v2.37 (I just updated it from
2.36 but it fails either way). Windows 7 Enterprise.

Given that VB6 -- VB5's successor -- was "retired" by MS nearly a decade ago, what are the risks associated with running software this old? (VB5, not the CwGet bridge)

+++ No one has ever reported a problem with this.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ
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