Parallel port needed


Stephen Budensiek
 

Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


Joe Subich, W4TV
 

Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.

or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20>

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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Dave AA6YQ
 

AA6YQ comments below
-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]On Behalf Of
Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:51 PM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Parallel port needed

Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.

or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600
022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20>

Thanks, Joe. I added this information to the "Controlling an External
Device like an Antenna Switch" article in

<http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/ControlAntennaSwitch>

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Stephen Budensiek
 

Hello all,
Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works OK, it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and 8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as given in the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant), then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct data as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes with band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and it works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2 bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT ports work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all else works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came with each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft site to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything. OS is XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is one with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on the LPT port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:

**




Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


------------------------------------

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Joe Subich, W4TV
 

Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows 7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works OK, it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and 8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as given in the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant), then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct data as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes with band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and it works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2 bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT ports work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all else works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came with each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft site to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything. OS is XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is one with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on the LPT port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...> wrote:

**




Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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Dave AA6YQ
 

AA6YQ comments below
-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of Joe
Subich, W4TV
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:20 PM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Parallel port needed


Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows 7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the parallel port
recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and there are no
issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that had to be changed
from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the LPT port but I no longer
remember what they were. I note the port is set to never use an interrupt
and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

Stephen, it sounds to me like your 9835-based interface is working. To
make sure you have Commander configured correctly, take a look at

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/ControlAntennaSwitch>

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Stephen Budensiek
 

Joe,
That's the card I have in this machine right now. The driver date is
12/24/2008, version 2.0.0.16. The driver on the cd that came with it had a
driver dated 2001, when I did the Microsoft driver update site a few weeks
ago, it loaded this, but didn't change anything. The resources it uses are
8800-8807, I get no response from that address. The second resource
setting is 8C00-8C07. Putting the 8C00 address in gets me the initial
setting in commander, but it doesn't change to follow band changes in
commander. I'm wondering if it is actually strobing the port and I need
to latch it, but it's too fast to see without the scope connected. I'll
give that a try. I thought maybe it was related to the non-legacy
address, the syba manufacturer suggested that and XP setting their own
resources that can't be modified when I emailed them. Exhausted every
other resouce to find a answer. Sybe Customer Service said I needed a card
that would do the Legacy address, because the XP system allocated an
address, you can't modify/change it, like you can in Win98. I'm out of
ideals. Part of what I'm up to, I'd like to have multiple parallel ports,
so I can do the parallel port keyer configuration, along with the antenna
switch. That will take 2 parallel ports.
One of my early employer used some stuff made by a company called Black
Box, that you could plug their board into the ISA bus, load their software,
and bring several byte's out of the machine (bi-directional), handy for
early prom readers and the sort, but haven't found anything for PCI buss,
unless it was in the several hundred $ range.
Anyway, grasping at straws now...

73's de Stephen, K0SD

************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:

**



Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows 7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
> Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works OK, it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and 8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as given in the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant), then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct data as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes with band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and it works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2 bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT ports
work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all else works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came with each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft site to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything. OS is XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is one with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on the LPT
port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...>
wrote:

**




Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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N7DC <n7dc@...>
 

My SYBA PCIe DUAL OUTPUT SD-PEXZ 15022 RS2321 card arrived by mail today. Installed it, and get all the way up to installing the driver, for this W7 machine, and it tells me it has aborted, and asks me OK? , and ends the installation. Have sent them an email, after changing PCIe slots, etc. to no avail. Figured I would be back on RTTY, PSK tonight, but not to be. Hope I just need a new driver, but it may be more than that. Driver that came with it supposedly is Dec 2011. And here I thought I was bypassing all this USB to RS232 stuff being reported.

On 3/10/2012 9:05 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Joe,
That's the card I have in this machine right now. The driver date is
12/24/2008, version 2.0.0.16. The driver on the cd that came with it had a
driver dated 2001, when I did the Microsoft driver update site a few weeks
ago, it loaded this, but didn't change anything. The resources it uses are
8800-8807, I get no response from that address. The second resource
setting is 8C00-8C07. Putting the 8C00 address in gets me the initial
setting in commander, but it doesn't change to follow band changes in
commander. I'm wondering if it is actually strobing the port and I need
to latch it, but it's too fast to see without the scope connected. I'll
give that a try. I thought maybe it was related to the non-legacy
address, the syba manufacturer suggested that and XP setting their own
resources that can't be modified when I emailed them. Exhausted every
other resouce to find a answer. Sybe Customer Service said I needed a card
that would do the Legacy address, because the XP system allocated an
address, you can't modify/change it, like you can in Win98. I'm out of
ideals. Part of what I'm up to, I'd like to have multiple parallel ports,
so I can do the parallel port keyer configuration, along with the antenna
switch. That will take 2 parallel ports.
One of my early employer used some stuff made by a company called Black
Box, that you could plug their board into the ISA bus, load their software,
and bring several byte's out of the machine (bi-directional), handy for
early prom readers and the sort, but haven't found anything for PCI buss,
unless it was in the several hundred $ range.
Anyway, grasping at straws now...

73's de Stephen, K0SD

************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...> wrote:

**



Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows 7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
> Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works OK, it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and 8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as given in the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant), then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct data as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes with band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and it works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2 bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT ports
work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all else works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came with each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft site to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything. OS is XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is one with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on the LPT
port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...>
wrote:
**



Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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Joe Subich, W4TV
 

I needed to download the Windows 7 driver from MOSchip directly - don't
remember which vendor's clone of the MOSchip design I have but SIIg,
Rosewill, etc. are all essentially identical.

I have run the same board under XP - that machine has swappable boot
drives but I have not had either XP or Vista/32 in it for well over a
year. The LPT port is at E800 ... no problem with any of the three
operating systems (just for grins I plugged in the XP Boot drive and
it still works properly).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/10/2012 9:05 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Joe,
That's the card I have in this machine right now. The driver date is
12/24/2008, version 2.0.0.16. The driver on the cd that came with it had a
driver dated 2001, when I did the Microsoft driver update site a few weeks
ago, it loaded this, but didn't change anything. The resources it uses are
8800-8807, I get no response from that address. The second resource
setting is 8C00-8C07. Putting the 8C00 address in gets me the initial
setting in commander, but it doesn't change to follow band changes in
commander. I'm wondering if it is actually strobing the port and I need
to latch it, but it's too fast to see without the scope connected. I'll
give that a try. I thought maybe it was related to the non-legacy
address, the syba manufacturer suggested that and XP setting their own
resources that can't be modified when I emailed them. Exhausted every
other resouce to find a answer. Sybe Customer Service said I needed a card
that would do the Legacy address, because the XP system allocated an
address, you can't modify/change it, like you can in Win98. I'm out of
ideals. Part of what I'm up to, I'd like to have multiple parallel ports,
so I can do the parallel port keyer configuration, along with the antenna
switch. That will take 2 parallel ports.
One of my early employer used some stuff made by a company called Black
Box, that you could plug their board into the ISA bus, load their software,
and bring several byte's out of the machine (bi-directional), handy for
early prom readers and the sort, but haven't found anything for PCI buss,
unless it was in the several hundred $ range.
Anyway, grasping at straws now...

73's de Stephen, K0SD

************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...> wrote:

**



Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows 7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
> Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works OK, it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and 8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as given in the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant), then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct data as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes with band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and it works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2 bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT ports
work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all else works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came with each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft site to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything. OS is XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is one with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on the LPT
port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...>
wrote:

**




Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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Stephen Budensiek
 

Joe,
I think we're talking of apples and oranges. The problem is not that
the port won't operate under XP, it is that it doesn't output the Commander
data and hold it. I can plug a printer into the 9835 or 9865 for LPT,
works fine. But as Dave has written the code, it needs to hold the
output, ie, data for relay for ant one, two, three, four, and change and
hold for a new band antenna when Commander changes. That it does not
do. Only the machine with the Legacy LPT1 on the motherboard does that,
flawlessly. I've noticed all the new PCI board parallel ports implement
the latest parallel port version software, I'm beginning to wonder if that
is an issue, if I had something with PCI LPT ver 1 software implementation,
it might well solve it, or if I knew, could find out how to implement the
various LPT modes, ie SPP, PS2, EPP,ECP. I saw one site that stated only
one of the modes, maybe ECP makes the LPT port bi-directional. Again,
that might have to be coded in the DXLab code to implement the correct
mode. The one that works is a Gigabyte K8N dual-core Athlon motherboard,
XP Pro SP3, with LPT1 on the motherboard, from the late 1990's. When I
get to feeling better again, the project will continue, with my o'scope in
the mix to monitor pin data.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

****************************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:

**



I needed to download the Windows 7 driver from MOSchip directly - don't
remember which vendor's clone of the MOSchip design I have but SIIg,
Rosewill, etc. are all essentially identical.

I have run the same board under XP - that machine has swappable boot
drives but I have not had either XP or Vista/32 in it for well over a
year. The LPT port is at E800 ... no problem with any of the three
operating systems (just for grins I plugged in the XP Boot drive and
it still works properly).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/10/2012 9:05 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
> Joe,
That's the card I have in this machine right now. The driver date is
12/24/2008, version 2.0.0.16. The driver on the cd that came with it had
a
driver dated 2001, when I did the Microsoft driver update site a few
weeks
ago, it loaded this, but didn't change anything. The resources it uses
are
8800-8807, I get no response from that address. The second resource
setting is 8C00-8C07. Putting the 8C00 address in gets me the initial
setting in commander, but it doesn't change to follow band changes in
commander. I'm wondering if it is actually strobing the port and I need
to latch it, but it's too fast to see without the scope connected. I'll
give that a try. I thought maybe it was related to the non-legacy
address, the syba manufacturer suggested that and XP setting their own
resources that can't be modified when I emailed them. Exhausted every
other resouce to find a answer. Sybe Customer Service said I needed a
card
that would do the Legacy address, because the XP system allocated an
address, you can't modify/change it, like you can in Win98. I'm out of
ideals. Part of what I'm up to, I'd like to have multiple parallel ports,
so I can do the parallel port keyer configuration, along with the antenna
switch. That will take 2 parallel ports.
One of my early employer used some stuff made by a company called Black
Box, that you could plug their board into the ISA bus, load their
software,
and bring several byte's out of the machine (bi-directional), handy for
early prom readers and the sort, but haven't found anything for PCI buss,
unless it was in the several hundred $ range.
Anyway, grasping at straws now...

73's de Stephen, K0SD

************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...>
wrote:

**



Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows 7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works OK,
it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and 8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as given in
the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to
another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant), then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct data as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes with
band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and it
works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2 bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT ports
work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all else
works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came with
each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft site to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything. OS is
XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is one
with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on the LPT
port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...>
wrote:

**




Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have
found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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Dave AA6YQ
 

AA6YQ comments below
-----Original Message-----
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...] On Behalf Of
Stephen Budensiek
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 1:43 PM
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Parallel port needed

Joe,
I think we're talking of apples and oranges. The problem is not that
the port won't operate under XP, it is that it doesn't output the Commander
data and hold it. I can plug a printer into the 9835 or 9865 for LPT,
works fine. But as Dave has written the code, it needs to hold the
output, ie, data for relay for ant one, two, three, four, and change and
hold for a new band antenna when Commander changes

All parallel ports provide a register into which the output data is
strobed; the data should remain in the register until it's replaced.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Joe Subich, W4TV
 

I think we're talking of apples and oranges. The problem is not that
the port won't operate under XP, it is that it doesn't output the
Commander data and hold it.
... and I'm telling you my 9835 based PCIe card works perfectly with
commander. Last night I pulled the Windows 7/64 boot drive from my
system, installed the old XP boot drive, performed a Windows Update to
bring the XP system up to date, updated DXLab Suite and was able to
drive a BCD band decoder (LPT 2, address E800, pins 2,7,8,9) from Commander using "Data Signals" tied to Device 0. I was also able to
toggle the Radio Select lines (pins 14, 16) as well.

Just for grins, while I had the port monitor connected, I confirmed
that the card was still working *with Commander* in Windows 7/64.

I've noticed all the new PCI board parallel ports implement the
latest parallel port version software, I'm beginning to wonder if
that is an issue,
No, my card/driver implements a dumb parallel port (no EPP/ECP/etc.).
Select the parallel port in Windows Device Manager, open the "Port
Settings" tab, select "Never use an interrupt", check "enable legacy
Plug and Play detection" (mine is LPT2). The port appears as a simple
parallel port to any application that I've checked.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/11/2012 1:42 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Joe,
I think we're talking of apples and oranges. The problem is not that
the port won't operate under XP, it is that it doesn't output the Commander
data and hold it. I can plug a printer into the 9835 or 9865 for LPT,
works fine. But as Dave has written the code, it needs to hold the
output, ie, data for relay for ant one, two, three, four, and change and
hold for a new band antenna when Commander changes. That it does not
do. Only the machine with the Legacy LPT1 on the motherboard does that,
flawlessly. I've noticed all the new PCI board parallel ports implement
the latest parallel port version software, I'm beginning to wonder if that
is an issue, if I had something with PCI LPT ver 1 software implementation,
it might well solve it, or if I knew, could find out how to implement the
various LPT modes, ie SPP, PS2, EPP,ECP. I saw one site that stated only
one of the modes, maybe ECP makes the LPT port bi-directional. Again,
that might have to be coded in the DXLab code to implement the correct
mode. The one that works is a Gigabyte K8N dual-core Athlon motherboard,
XP Pro SP3, with LPT1 on the motherboard, from the late 1990's. When I
get to feeling better again, the project will continue, with my o'scope in
the mix to monitor pin data.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

****************************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...> wrote:

**



I needed to download the Windows 7 driver from MOSchip directly - don't
remember which vendor's clone of the MOSchip design I have but SIIg,
Rosewill, etc. are all essentially identical.

I have run the same board under XP - that machine has swappable boot
drives but I have not had either XP or Vista/32 in it for well over a
year. The LPT port is at E800 ... no problem with any of the three
operating systems (just for grins I plugged in the XP Boot drive and
it still works properly).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/10/2012 9:05 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
> Joe,
That's the card I have in this machine right now. The driver date is
12/24/2008, version 2.0.0.16. The driver on the cd that came with it had
a
driver dated 2001, when I did the Microsoft driver update site a few
weeks
ago, it loaded this, but didn't change anything. The resources it uses
are
8800-8807, I get no response from that address. The second resource
setting is 8C00-8C07. Putting the 8C00 address in gets me the initial
setting in commander, but it doesn't change to follow band changes in
commander. I'm wondering if it is actually strobing the port and I need
to latch it, but it's too fast to see without the scope connected. I'll
give that a try. I thought maybe it was related to the non-legacy
address, the syba manufacturer suggested that and XP setting their own
resources that can't be modified when I emailed them. Exhausted every
other resouce to find a answer. Sybe Customer Service said I needed a
card
that would do the Legacy address, because the XP system allocated an
address, you can't modify/change it, like you can in Win98. I'm out of
ideals. Part of what I'm up to, I'd like to have multiple parallel ports,
so I can do the parallel port keyer configuration, along with the antenna
switch. That will take 2 parallel ports.
One of my early employer used some stuff made by a company called Black
Box, that you could plug their board into the ISA bus, load their
software,
and bring several byte's out of the machine (bi-directional), handy for
early prom readers and the sort, but haven't found anything for PCI buss,
unless it was in the several hundred $ range.
Anyway, grasping at straws now...

73's de Stephen, K0SD

************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...>
wrote:

**



Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows 7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works OK,
it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and 8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as given in
the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to
another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant), then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct data as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes with
band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and it
works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2 bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT ports
work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all else
works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came with
each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft site to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything. OS is
XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is one
with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on the LPT
port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...>
wrote:

**




Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have
found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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CSM&#92;(r&#92;) Gary Huber - AB9M
 

I ran into a similar problem when I built my new computer with a ASRock 880G motherboard..... no physical LPT. I added a Roswell RC-303 but had difficulty with the parallel port address for Commander until I found the PCI LPT3 Resouce Address of D800 and entered it as the PORT ADDRESS in Commander leaving the pull down to the left blank. Once I had the parallel port address entered correctly the band data was sent to the http://www.unifiedmicro.com/decoder.html and relay network I use to drive my TenTec Automatic Antenna Coupler.


73 ES DX,
Gary -- AB9M

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Budensiek
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:42 PM I
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Parallel port needed

Joe,
I think we're talking of apples and oranges. The problem is not that
the port won't operate under XP, it is that it doesn't output the Commander
data and hold it. I can plug a printer into the 9835 or 9865 for LPT,
works fine. But as Dave has written the code, it needs to hold the
output, ie, data for relay for ant one, two, three, four, and change and
hold for a new band antenna when Commander changes. That it does not
do. Only the machine with the Legacy LPT1 on the motherboard does that,
flawlessly. I've noticed all the new PCI board parallel ports implement
the latest parallel port version software, I'm beginning to wonder if that
is an issue, if I had something with PCI LPT ver 1 software implementation,
it might well solve it, or if I knew, could find out how to implement the
various LPT modes, ie SPP, PS2, EPP,ECP. I saw one site that stated only
one of the modes, maybe ECP makes the LPT port bi-directional. Again,
that might have to be coded in the DXLab code to implement the correct
mode. The one that works is a Gigabyte K8N dual-core Athlon motherboard,
XP Pro SP3, with LPT1 on the motherboard, from the late 1990's. When I
get to feeling better again, the project will continue, with my o'scope in
the mix to monitor pin data.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

****************************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:

**



I needed to download the Windows 7 driver from MOSchip directly - don't
remember which vendor's clone of the MOSchip design I have but SIIg,
Rosewill, etc. are all essentially identical.

I have run the same board under XP - that machine has swappable boot
drives but I have not had either XP or Vista/32 in it for well over a
year. The LPT port is at E800 ... no problem with any of the three
operating systems (just for grins I plugged in the XP Boot drive and
it still works properly).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/10/2012 9:05 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
> Joe,
That's the card I have in this machine right now. The driver date is
12/24/2008, version 2.0.0.16. The driver on the cd that came with it had
a
driver dated 2001, when I did the Microsoft driver update site a few
weeks
ago, it loaded this, but didn't change anything. The resources it uses
are
8800-8807, I get no response from that address. The second resource
setting is 8C00-8C07. Putting the 8C00 address in gets me the initial
setting in commander, but it doesn't change to follow band changes in
commander. I'm wondering if it is actually strobing the port and I need
to latch it, but it's too fast to see without the scope connected. I'll
give that a try. I thought maybe it was related to the non-legacy
address, the syba manufacturer suggested that and XP setting their own
resources that can't be modified when I emailed them. Exhausted every
other resouce to find a answer. Sybe Customer Service said I needed a
card
that would do the Legacy address, because the XP system allocated an
address, you can't modify/change it, like you can in Win98. I'm out of
ideals. Part of what I'm up to, I'd like to have multiple parallel ports,
so I can do the parallel port keyer configuration, along with the antenna
switch. That will take 2 parallel ports.
One of my early employer used some stuff made by a company called Black
Box, that you could plug their board into the ISA bus, load their
software,
and bring several byte's out of the machine (bi-directional), handy for
early prom readers and the sort, but haven't found anything for PCI buss,
unless it was in the several hundred $ range.
Anyway, grasping at straws now...

73's de Stephen, K0SD

************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...>
wrote:

**



Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows 7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works OK,
it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and 8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as given in
the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen, then
never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to
another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant), then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct data as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes with
band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and it
works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2 bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT ports
work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all else
works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came with
each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft site to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything. OS is
XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is one
with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on the LPT
port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV<lists@...>
wrote:

**




Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip chip set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you have the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches. Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port, I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and two, they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista), or a PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)? I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's have
found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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kk1w2000 <kk1w@...>
 

Gary,

You rock! This is precisely the problem I fought with for hours today.
A Win7 PC without a native parallel port. I had a NetMOS card from an
old PC and installed it. Everything looked good in device manager but
nothing connected to the parallel port worked! It seemed obvious the
port address was different than what DXlabs was expecting but I just
couldn't figure out how to change it.

There was no apparent way to change it with device manager, google
searching didn't turn up anything of value along the lines of changing
the the port address in windows. When I set the LPT shown in device
manager in DXlabs I couldn't change the port address. I didn't pick up
on the fact if I left the 'port designator blank I could enter the
address in the box. In my case it was E800. I put that in and voila! Now
I can control my KK1L antenna switch automatically. Thank you so much
for making this post.

I probably should have tried Joe's suggestion of ticking the 'Enable
legacy Plug and Play detection' but I tried your suggestion first and it
worked, how cool is that?

Dave, I don't know if you want to make any additions to the Wiki about
this - maybe it is apparent to most, just not me :) Or maybe when the
'Enable legacy.... box is ticked it selects the standard part addresses?
You guys (you, Joe and others) know way more about this stuff than I do.

Now to have fun and not worry about if the correct antenna has been
selected.

'73...
Jim/KK1W


--- In dxlab@..., GARY HUBER <glhuber@...> wrote:

I ran into a similar problem when I built my new computer with a
ASRock 880G
motherboard..... no physical LPT. I added a Roswell RC-303 but had
difficulty with the parallel port address for Commander until I found
the
PCI LPT3 Resouce Address of D800 and entered it as the PORT ADDRESS in
Commander leaving the pull down to the left blank. Once I had the
parallel
port address entered correctly the band data was sent to the
http://www.unifiedmicro.com/decoder.html and relay network I use to
drive my
TenTec Automatic Antenna Coupler.


73 ES DX,
Gary -- AB9M

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Budensiek
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:42 PM I
To: dxlab@...
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Parallel port needed

Joe,
I think we're talking of apples and oranges. The problem is not
that
the port won't operate under XP, it is that it doesn't output the
Commander
data and hold it. I can plug a printer into the 9835 or 9865 for
LPT,
works fine. But as Dave has written the code, it needs to hold the
output, ie, data for relay for ant one, two, three, four, and change
and
hold for a new band antenna when Commander changes. That it does not
do. Only the machine with the Legacy LPT1 on the motherboard does
that,
flawlessly. I've noticed all the new PCI board parallel ports
implement
the latest parallel port version software, I'm beginning to wonder if
that
is an issue, if I had something with PCI LPT ver 1 software
implementation,
it might well solve it, or if I knew, could find out how to implement
the
various LPT modes, ie SPP, PS2, EPP,ECP. I saw one site that stated
only
one of the modes, maybe ECP makes the LPT port bi-directional.
Again,
that might have to be coded in the DXLab code to implement the correct
mode. The one that works is a Gigabyte K8N dual-core Athlon
motherboard,
XP Pro SP3, with LPT1 on the motherboard, from the late 1990's. When
I
get to feeling better again, the project will continue, with my
o'scope in
the mix to monitor pin data.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

****************************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV lists@... wrote:

**



I needed to download the Windows 7 driver from MOSchip directly -
don't
remember which vendor's clone of the MOSchip design I have but SIIg,
Rosewill, etc. are all essentially identical.

I have run the same board under XP - that machine has swappable boot
drives but I have not had either XP or Vista/32 in it for well over
a
year. The LPT port is at E800 ... no problem with any of the three
operating systems (just for grins I plugged in the XP Boot drive and
it still works properly).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/10/2012 9:05 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
> Joe,
That's the card I have in this machine right now. The driver date
is
12/24/2008, version 2.0.0.16. The driver on the cd that came with
it had
a
driver dated 2001, when I did the Microsoft driver update site a
few
weeks
ago, it loaded this, but didn't change anything. The resources it
uses
are
8800-8807, I get no response from that address. The second
resource
setting is 8C00-8C07. Putting the 8C00 address in gets me the
initial
setting in commander, but it doesn't change to follow band changes
in
commander. I'm wondering if it is actually strobing the port and I
need
to latch it, but it's too fast to see without the scope connected.
I'll
give that a try. I thought maybe it was related to the non-legacy
address, the syba manufacturer suggested that and XP setting their
own
resources that can't be modified when I emailed them. Exhausted
every
other resouce to find a answer. Sybe Customer Service said I
needed a
card
that would do the Legacy address, because the XP system allocated
an
address, you can't modify/change it, like you can in Win98. I'm
out of
ideals. Part of what I'm up to, I'd like to have multiple parallel
ports,
so I can do the parallel port keyer configuration, along with the
antenna
switch. That will take 2 parallel ports.
One of my early employer used some stuff made by a company called
Black
Box, that you could plug their board into the ISA bus, load their
software,
and bring several byte's out of the machine (bi-directional),
handy for
early prom readers and the sort, but haven't found anything for
PCI
buss,
unless it was in the several hundred $ range.
Anyway, grasping at straws now...

73's de Stephen, K0SD

************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TVlists@...
wrote:

**



Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the
initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen,
then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows
7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the
parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and
there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that
had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the
LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is
set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the
MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response
from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works
OK,
it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from
microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and
8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as
given in
the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the
initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen,
then
never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to
another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant),
then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct
data
as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes
with
band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and
it
works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works
like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2
bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT
ports
work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all
else
works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came
with
each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft
site
to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything.
OS is
XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is
one
with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on
the LPT
port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot
of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TVlists@...
wrote:

**




Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work
with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is
required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that
Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip
chip
set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you
have
the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech
cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20\;
600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where
you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches.
Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port,
I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to
Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to
serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with
Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and
two,
they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a
USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista),
or a
PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard
LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)?
I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's
have
found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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CSM&#92;(r&#92;) Gary Huber - AB9M
 

Jim,

Thank you for the kind words. I had the problem of having the parallel port on the adapter card identified as PCI LPT3 and not understanding the port designator was not going to address it. Dave and others are way out in front of so many of us when it comes to understanding computer hardware, drivers, firmware, software, configurations, and descriptive terminology, that its almost impossible to build a WIKI that everyone can understand (if they read it). But I believe Dave has done an excellent job of establishing this Yahoo Group and maintaining a helpful and understanding environment where one can ask questions and get answers and helpful suggestions always within twenty-four hours or less.

Don’t fight the problem, just ask the question. If you have a solution, post it!

73 ES DX,
Gary -- AB9M

From: kk1w2000
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:47 PMunderstanding
To: dxlab@...
Subject: [dxlab] Re: Parallel port needed


Gary,

You rock! This is precisely the problem I fought with for hours today.
A Win7 PC without a native parallel port. I had a NetMOS card from an
old PC and installed it. Everything looked good in device manager but
nothing connected to the parallel port worked! It seemed obvious the
port address was different than what DXlabs was expecting but I just
couldn't figure out how to change it.

There was no apparent way to change it with device manager, google
searching didn't turn up anything of value along the lines of changing
the the port address in windows. When I set the LPT shown in device
manager in DXlabs I couldn't change the port address. I didn't pick up
on the fact if I left the 'port designator blank I could enter the
address in the box. In my case it was E800. I put that in and voila! Now
I can control my KK1L antenna switch automatically. Thank you so much
for making this post.

I probably should have tried Joe's suggestion of ticking the 'Enable
legacy Plug and Play detection' but I tried your suggestion first and it
worked, how cool is that?

Dave, I don't know if you want to make any additions to the Wiki about
this - maybe it is apparent to most, just not me :) Or maybe when the
'Enable legacy.... box is ticked it selects the standard part addresses?
You guys (you, Joe and others) know way more about this stuff than I do.

Now to have fun and not worry about if the correct antenna has been
selected.

'73...
Jim/KK1W

--- In mailto:dxlab%40yahoogroups.com, GARY HUBER <glhuber@...> wrote:

I ran into a similar problem when I built my new computer with a
ASRock 880G
motherboard..... no physical LPT. I added a Roswell RC-303 but had
difficulty with the parallel port address for Commander until I found
the
PCI LPT3 Resouce Address of D800 and entered it as the PORT ADDRESS in
Commander leaving the pull down to the left blank. Once I had the
parallel
port address entered correctly the band data was sent to the
http://www.unifiedmicro.com/decoder.html and relay network I use to
drive my
TenTec Automatic Antenna Coupler.


73 ES DX,
Gary -- AB9M

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Budensiek
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:42 PM I
To: mailto:dxlab%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Parallel port needed

Joe,
I think we're talking of apples and oranges. The problem is not
that
the port won't operate under XP, it is that it doesn't output the
Commander
data and hold it. I can plug a printer into the 9835 or 9865 for
LPT,
works fine. But as Dave has written the code, it needs to hold the
output, ie, data for relay for ant one, two, three, four, and change
and
hold for a new band antenna when Commander changes. That it does not
do. Only the machine with the Legacy LPT1 on the motherboard does
that,
flawlessly. I've noticed all the new PCI board parallel ports
implement
the latest parallel port version software, I'm beginning to wonder if
that
is an issue, if I had something with PCI LPT ver 1 software
implementation,
it might well solve it, or if I knew, could find out how to implement
the
various LPT modes, ie SPP, PS2, EPP,ECP. I saw one site that stated
only
one of the modes, maybe ECP makes the LPT port bi-directional.
Again,
that might have to be coded in the DXLab code to implement the correct
mode. The one that works is a Gigabyte K8N dual-core Athlon
motherboard,
XP Pro SP3, with LPT1 on the motherboard, from the late 1990's. When
I
get to feeling better again, the project will continue, with my
o'scope in
the mix to monitor pin data.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

****************************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV lists@... wrote:

**



I needed to download the Windows 7 driver from MOSchip directly -
don't
remember which vendor's clone of the MOSchip design I have but SIIg,
Rosewill, etc. are all essentially identical.

I have run the same board under XP - that machine has swappable boot
drives but I have not had either XP or Vista/32 in it for well over
a
year. The LPT port is at E800 ... no problem with any of the three
operating systems (just for grins I plugged in the XP Boot drive and
it still works properly).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/10/2012 9:05 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Joe,
That's the card I have in this machine right now. The driver date
is
12/24/2008, version 2.0.0.16. The driver on the cd that came with
it had
a
driver dated 2001, when I did the Microsoft driver update site a
few
weeks
ago, it loaded this, but didn't change anything. The resources it
uses
are
8800-8807, I get no response from that address. The second
resource
setting is 8C00-8C07. Putting the 8C00 address in gets me the
initial
setting in commander, but it doesn't change to follow band changes
in
commander. I'm wondering if it is actually strobing the port and I
need
to latch it, but it's too fast to see without the scope connected.
I'll
give that a try. I thought maybe it was related to the non-legacy
address, the syba manufacturer suggested that and XP setting their
own
resources that can't be modified when I emailed them. Exhausted
every
other resouce to find a answer. Sybe Customer Service said I
needed a
card
that would do the Legacy address, because the XP system allocated
an
address, you can't modify/change it, like you can in Win98. I'm
out of
ideals. Part of what I'm up to, I'd like to have multiple parallel
ports,
so I can do the parallel port keyer configuration, along with the
antenna
switch. That will take 2 parallel ports.
One of my early employer used some stuff made by a company called
Black
Box, that you could plug their board into the ISA bus, load their
software,
and bring several byte's out of the machine (bi-directional),
handy for
early prom readers and the sort, but haven't found anything for
PCI
buss,
unless it was in the several hundred $ range.
Anyway, grasping at straws now...

73's de Stephen, K0SD

************************

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TVlists@...
wrote:

**



Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the
initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen,
then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows
7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the
parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and
there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that
had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the
LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is
set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the
MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response
from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works
OK,
it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from
microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and
8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as
given in
the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the
initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen,
then
never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to
another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant),
then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct
data
as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes
with
band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and
it
works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works
like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2
bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT
ports
work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all
else
works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came
with
each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft
site
to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything.
OS is
XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is
one
with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on
the LPT
port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot
of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

***************************************

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TVlists@...
wrote:

**




Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work
with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is
required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that
Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip
chip
set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you
have
the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech
cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20\;
600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where
you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches.
Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port,
I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to
Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to
serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with
Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and
two,
they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a
USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista),
or a
PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard
LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)?
I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's
have
found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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Stephen Budensiek
 

Gary,
You're fortunate. I've tried this with 2 different parallel cards.
They both have show multiple addresses in device manager for the card's
parallel port, none of them work reliable when put into the software
address window. One would work the first time I put the first address
shown in device manage. Would have to remove it, and re-install it each
time I changed bands and needed a different port output. One of them was
advertised as able to do Legacy addressing. Didn't work, manufacturer
told me that only worked on Win98, not on XP. No use beating a dead
horse, gave up on it.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:58 AM, GARY HUBER <glhuber@...> wrote:

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Jim,

Thank you for the kind words. I had the problem of having the parallel
port on the adapter card identified as PCI LPT3 and not understanding the
port designator was not going to address it. Dave and others are way out in
front of so many of us when it comes to understanding computer hardware,
drivers, firmware, software, configurations, and descriptive terminology,
that its almost impossible to build a WIKI that everyone can understand (if
they read it). But I believe Dave has done an excellent job of establishing
this Yahoo Group and maintaining a helpful and understanding environment
where one can ask questions and get answers and helpful suggestions always
within twenty-four hours or less.

Don’t fight the problem, just ask the question. If you have a solution,
post it!


73 ES DX,
Gary -- AB9M

From: kk1w2000
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:47 PMunderstanding
To: dxlab@...
Subject: [dxlab] Re: Parallel port needed


Gary,

You rock! This is precisely the problem I fought with for hours today.
A Win7 PC without a native parallel port. I had a NetMOS card from an
old PC and installed it. Everything looked good in device manager but
nothing connected to the parallel port worked! It seemed obvious the
port address was different than what DXlabs was expecting but I just
couldn't figure out how to change it.

There was no apparent way to change it with device manager, google
searching didn't turn up anything of value along the lines of changing
the the port address in windows. When I set the LPT shown in device
manager in DXlabs I couldn't change the port address. I didn't pick up
on the fact if I left the 'port designator blank I could enter the
address in the box. In my case it was E800. I put that in and voila! Now
I can control my KK1L antenna switch automatically. Thank you so much
for making this post.

I probably should have tried Joe's suggestion of ticking the 'Enable
legacy Plug and Play detection' but I tried your suggestion first and it
worked, how cool is that?

Dave, I don't know if you want to make any additions to the Wiki about
this - maybe it is apparent to most, just not me :) Or maybe when the
'Enable legacy.... box is ticked it selects the standard part addresses?
You guys (you, Joe and others) know way more about this stuff than I do.

Now to have fun and not worry about if the correct antenna has been
selected.

'73...
Jim/KK1W

--- In mailto:dxlab%40yahoogroups.com, GARY HUBER <glhuber@...> wrote:

I ran into a similar problem when I built my new computer with a
ASRock 880G
motherboard..... no physical LPT. I added a Roswell RC-303 but had
difficulty with the parallel port address for Commander until I found
the
PCI LPT3 Resouce Address of D800 and entered it as the PORT ADDRESS in
Commander leaving the pull down to the left blank. Once I had the
parallel
port address entered correctly the band data was sent to the
http://www.unifiedmicro.com/decoder.html and relay network I use to
drive my
TenTec Automatic Antenna Coupler.


73 ES DX,
Gary -- AB9M

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Budensiek
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:42 PM I
> To: mailto:dxlab%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dxlab] Parallel port needed

Joe,
I think we're talking of apples and oranges. The problem is not
that
the port won't operate under XP, it is that it doesn't output the
Commander
data and hold it. I can plug a printer into the 9835 or 9865 for
LPT,
works fine. But as Dave has written the code, it needs to hold the
output, ie, data for relay for ant one, two, three, four, and change
and
hold for a new band antenna when Commander changes. That it does not
do. Only the machine with the Legacy LPT1 on the motherboard does
that,
flawlessly. I've noticed all the new PCI board parallel ports
implement
the latest parallel port version software, I'm beginning to wonder if
that
is an issue, if I had something with PCI LPT ver 1 software
implementation,
it might well solve it, or if I knew, could find out how to implement
the
various LPT modes, ie SPP, PS2, EPP,ECP. I saw one site that stated
only
one of the modes, maybe ECP makes the LPT port bi-directional.
Again,
that might have to be coded in the DXLab code to implement the correct
mode. The one that works is a Gigabyte K8N dual-core Athlon
motherboard,
XP Pro SP3, with LPT1 on the motherboard, from the late 1990's. When
I
get to feeling better again, the project will continue, with my
o'scope in
the mix to monitor pin data.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

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On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV lists@... wrote:

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I needed to download the Windows 7 driver from MOSchip directly -
don't
remember which vendor's clone of the MOSchip design I have but SIIg,
Rosewill, etc. are all essentially identical.

I have run the same board under XP - that machine has swappable boot
drives but I have not had either XP or Vista/32 in it for well over
a
year. The LPT port is at E800 ... no problem with any of the three
operating systems (just for grins I plugged in the XP Boot drive and
it still works properly).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/10/2012 9:05 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Joe,
That's the card I have in this machine right now. The driver date
is
12/24/2008, version 2.0.0.16. The driver on the cd that came with
it had
a
driver dated 2001, when I did the Microsoft driver update site a
few
weeks
ago, it loaded this, but didn't change anything. The resources it
uses
are
8800-8807, I get no response from that address. The second
resource
setting is 8C00-8C07. Putting the 8C00 address in gets me the
initial
setting in commander, but it doesn't change to follow band changes
in
commander. I'm wondering if it is actually strobing the port and I
need
to latch it, but it's too fast to see without the scope connected.
I'll
give that a try. I thought maybe it was related to the non-legacy
address, the syba manufacturer suggested that and XP setting their
own
resources that can't be modified when I emailed them. Exhausted
every
other resouce to find a answer. Sybe Customer Service said I
needed a
card
that would do the Legacy address, because the XP system allocated
an
address, you can't modify/change it, like you can in Win98. I'm
out of
ideals. Part of what I'm up to, I'd like to have multiple parallel
ports,
so I can do the parallel port keyer configuration, along with the
antenna
switch. That will take 2 parallel ports.
One of my early employer used some stuff made by a company called
Black
Box, that you could plug their board into the ISA bus, load their
software,
and bring several byte's out of the machine (bi-directional),
handy for
early prom readers and the sort, but haven't found anything for
PCI
buss,
unless it was in the several hundred $ range.
Anyway, grasping at straws now...

73's de Stephen, K0SD

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On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Joe Subich, W4TVlists@...
wrote:

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Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the
initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen,
then
never changes and follows the display in Commander.
My MOSChip 9835 based PCIe board works just fine with Windows
7/64 and
driver version 2.0.0.18 dated 1/20/2010. I haven't used the
parallel
port recently but did check it with Commander and WinWarbler and
there
are no issues. As I recall, there were a couple of settings that
had
to be changed from the defaults in Windows Device Manager for the
LPT
port but I no longer remember what they were. I note the port is
set
to never use an interrupt and Legacy PNP detection is enabled.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/10/2012 4:50 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Guess I need to find out what drivers work. I have one of the
MOSchip
9865 cards that support Win98-Win7. I get absolutely no response
from
that, using the driver CD that came with it. Serial ports works
OK,
it's
my com3 port for RTTY FSK and tx key. Updated drivers from
microsoft's
driver site. The LPT memory is mapped in windows to 8800 and
8C00 for
parallel, tried both those addresses in Commanders setup as
given in
the
help files. No response.
Have an older MOSchip 9835 for Win98-XP, it at least puts the
initial
data for the relay on the parallel port when it is first chosen,
then
never
changes and follows the display in Commander. If I changed it to
another
band, then change Commander setup to another LPT (non-existant),
then
return it to the correct LPT setting, it will write the correct
data
as
shown in the Commander window, but it is static, never changes
with
band
after that.
I go to a motherboard with the LPT port on the motherboard, and
it
works
100%, parallel data out follows the display in Commander. Works
like a
dream, just like the DXLab help file shows. Guess I could have 2
bad
MOSchip 2ser/1par cards with different controllers, but the LPT
ports
work
OK with a printer. Guess I could have a XP Pro issue, but all
else
works
OK. I initally loaded the drivers from the little CD that came
with
each
boards, when that didn't work, I then went out to the microsoft
site
to
look for updated drivers, which it found. Didn't solve anything.
OS is
XP
Pro, SP3, 32 bit on all machines. But the only one that works is
one
with
a motherboard LPT port with Legacy mapping. The relay data on
the LPT
port
follows the display in Commander flawlessly.
My big machine with the motherboard LPT port , 2TB drives, lot
of
memory, I need in another location, but it has me tied down.

73's de Stephen, K0SD

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On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Joe Subich, W4TVlists@...
wrote:

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Has anyone found a USB to parallel cord/ dongle that will work
with
XP Pro (or Vista),
No. The USB/Parallel adapters are not memory mapped which is
required
by Commander.


or a PCI serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy
motherboard LPT port (that is, it holds the data that
Commander puts
out)?
Yes. Any of the PCI/PCIe serial/parallel cards with a MOSchip
chip
set
seem to work just fine with DXKeeper (and N1MM Logger) if you
have
the
right drivers.

If you're looking for new cards, the Rosewill, SIIG or StarTech
cards
here should work. I've used them in previous systems:
<
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20\;
600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20<http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007531%20600022013&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20>
73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2012 11:19 PM, Stephen Budensiek wrote:
Hello all,
Trying to work with the software Dave has in Commander, where
you
can output to a parallel port, and control antenna switches.
Problem
I'm having, if you have a motherboard without a parallel port,
I
cannot get this to work. It won't work with any USB to
Parallel port
cable or dongle I've tried, nor any PCI slot to
serial/parallel card
I've tried. OS is Windows XP Pro, it's a lot easier with
Win98.
Problem one, they don't use the old Legacy LPT address, and
two,
they
don't hold the data at the parallel plug. Has anyone found a
USB to
parallel cord/ dongle that will work with XP Pro (or Vista),
or a
PCI
serial/parallel card that works like an old Legacy motherboard
LPT
port (that is, it holds the data that Commander puts out)?
I've
already spent too many hours on the project, figure other's
have
found
something that will work.

73's de Stephen, K0SD


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