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Re: Exporting Statistics?

Daniel Brown
 

On Jun 23, 2022, at 12:47 PM, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below
Is there any way to pull spot collector's (and/or any other)
statistics into other applications? Ideal would be something like
exposing them for collection by something along the lines of a
Prometheus exporter.
+ You can make a copy of SpotCollector's Spot Database, and then direct Microsoft Excel to open the Spots table in that copy. That will give you access to the entire contents of the Spot Database.

+ By creating and opening a copy, inadvertent changes to the schema won't prevent SpotCollector from subsequently being unable to open the original database.

+ The same action is possible with the tables in your log database, which will provide access to your QSOs as well as your progress towards the DXCC, IOTA, Marathon, VUCC, WAS, WAZ, and WPX awards.

+ If you have questions about the structure of any of these tables, don't hesitate to post them here.



Thanks for the response — guess I could/should have been more clear - I was hoping for more “near real time” stats or metrics, which could be exported and accumulated into a time-series database, such as Prometheus, to allow graphing / analysis using external tools like Grafana, What you suggest sounds reasonable, but seems like more of a “post processing” kind of analysis.




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Occasional callbook lookup failure

Daniel W9DGI
 

Occasionally when operating CW and with all DXLab applications running, I get an error message when I type a call sign into WinWarbler and press ENTER or TAB; when this happens (not often) the call sign is populated into the CALL box in the Capture window but no additional information appears. The error message reads: "Unable to perform callbook lookup via DXKeeper: Foreign application won't perform DDE method or operation."  Most of the time WinWarbler and DXKeeper work flawlessly together. I can't figure out what's wrong and would appreciate help! Thanks -- W9DGI  Daniel


Re: Exporting Statistics?

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
Is there any way to pull spot collector's (and/or any other)
statistics into other applications? Ideal would be something like
exposing them for collection by something along the lines of a
Prometheus exporter.

+ You can make a copy of SpotCollector's Spot Database, and then direct Microsoft Excel to open the Spots table in that copy. That will give you access to the entire contents of the Spot Database.

+ By creating and opening a copy, inadvertent changes to the schema won't prevent SpotCollector from subsequently being unable to open the original database.

+ The same action is possible with the tables in your log database, which will provide access to your QSOs as well as your progress towards the DXCC, IOTA, Marathon, VUCC, WAS, WAZ, and WPX awards.

+ If you have questions about the structure of any of these tables, don't hesitate to post them here.

       73,

               Dave, AA6YQ


Exporting Statistics?

Daniel Brown
 

Dave --

Is there any way to pull spot collector's (and/or any other)
statistics into other applications? Ideal would be something like
exposing them for collection by something along the lines of a
Prometheus exporter.

see:

https://prometheus.io/
https://prometheus.io/docs/instrumenting/exporters/


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Re: Moving to Ubuntu -- maybe

neil_zampella
 

Quick edit ... last line should read:    "... full "browser", in much the same way DXLabs does."

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/23/2022 5:35 AM, neil_zampella wrote:

I agree with you Bob.   There's nothing that forces you to use Edge, I don't and have been using Firefox for years.  

The only time Edge is even opened on my computers is if a third-party program opens it up.  9 times out of 10, this is solved by making an alternative browser the system browser.   That 10th time is Quicken, and I can live with that as it uses the engine to display information, but not the full 'browser' much like DXLabs does.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/22/2022 7:12 PM, KA9JAC wrote:
Earl,

I am a bit confused, could you explain to me what you mean by "latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge"

73,
Bob, KA9JAC


On 6/22/2022 5:14 PM, Earl Needham wrote:
This latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge just really got me torqued this morning and I've spent most of the day trying to get moved over to Ubuntu.

Along the way, I discovered that most things I do are on a web browser, so that was easy.

But right now I'm stumped -- I've got DXLabs running under Wine (but haven't tried intenret connectivity yet), but I can't seem to figure out how to get my log database moved over.  When in Ubuntu, I can't "see" the Wine environment, and when in Wine I can't see the Ubuntu environment.  Very confusing.

Any help, please?

Thanks,
Earl
KD5XB





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Re: Moving to Ubuntu -- maybe

neil_zampella
 

I agree with you Bob.   There's nothing that forces you to use Edge, I don't and have been using Firefox for years.  

The only time Edge is even opened on my computers is if a third-party program opens it up.  9 times out of 10, this is solved by making an alternative browser the system browser.   That 10th time is Quicken, and I can live with that as it uses the engine to display information, but not the full 'browser' much like DXLabs does.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/22/2022 7:12 PM, KA9JAC wrote:

Earl,

I am a bit confused, could you explain to me what you mean by "latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge"

73,
Bob, KA9JAC


On 6/22/2022 5:14 PM, Earl Needham wrote:
This latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge just really got me torqued this morning and I've spent most of the day trying to get moved over to Ubuntu.

Along the way, I discovered that most things I do are on a web browser, so that was easy.

But right now I'm stumped -- I've got DXLabs running under Wine (but haven't tried intenret connectivity yet), but I can't seem to figure out how to get my log database moved over.  When in Ubuntu, I can't "see" the Wine environment, and when in Wine I can't see the Ubuntu environment.  Very confusing.

Any help, please?

Thanks,
Earl
KD5XB





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Re: DXKeeper take 5 minutes to start?

Earl Needham
 

I didn't have this problem -- until tonight.  "Just out of the blue" it was taking DXLabs apps a looooong time to start.  I found that adding an exclusion to Windows Defender corrected it.

Now back to Kubuntu...

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Re: Moving to Ubuntu -- maybe

Aaron NE1AB
 


On 6/22/2022 8:12 PM, KA9JAC wrote:

Earl,

I am a bit confused, could you explain to me what you mean by "latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge"

73,
Bob, KA9JAC


On 6/22/2022 5:14 PM, Earl Needham wrote:
This latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge just really got me torqued this morning and I've spent most of the day trying to get moved over to Ubuntu.

Along the way, I discovered that most things I do are on a web browser, so that was easy.

But right now I'm stumped -- I've got DXLabs running under Wine (but haven't tried intenret connectivity yet), but I can't seem to figure out how to get my log database moved over.  When in Ubuntu, I can't "see" the Wine environment, and when in Wine I can't see the Ubuntu environment.  Very confusing.

Any help, please?

Thanks,
Earl
KD5XB





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Re: Moving to Ubuntu -- maybe

KA9JAC
 

Earl,

I am a bit confused, could you explain to me what you mean by "latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge"

73,
Bob, KA9JAC


On 6/22/2022 5:14 PM, Earl Needham wrote:
This latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge just really got me torqued this morning and I've spent most of the day trying to get moved over to Ubuntu.

Along the way, I discovered that most things I do are on a web browser, so that was easy.

But right now I'm stumped -- I've got DXLabs running under Wine (but haven't tried intenret connectivity yet), but I can't seem to figure out how to get my log database moved over.  When in Ubuntu, I can't "see" the Wine environment, and when in Wine I can't see the Ubuntu environment.  Very confusing.

Any help, please?

Thanks,
Earl
KD5XB





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Re: Moving to Ubuntu -- maybe

Earl Needham
 


On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 4:31 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below
This latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge just really got me torqued this morning and I've spent most of the day trying to get moved over to Ubuntu.
 
Along the way, I discovered that most things I do are on a web browser, so that was easy.
 
But right now I'm stumped -- I've got DXLabs running under Wine (but haven't tried intenret connectivity yet), but I can't seem to figure out how to get my log database moved over.  When in Ubuntu, I can't "see" the Wine environment, and when in Wine I can't see the Ubuntu environment.  Very confusing.
 
Any help, please?

+ DXLab applications are not supported on Wine. It is only supported on Windows. See

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/DXLabLinux

       73,

             Dave, AA6YQ


Re: Moving to Ubuntu -- maybe

Earl Needham
 

Oh I see where I fouled up -- I should try and get the Oracle VM Virtual Box running and go from there.  Sorry for the confusion.

Earl



On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 4:31 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below
This latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge just really got me torqued this morning and I've spent most of the day trying to get moved over to Ubuntu.
 
Along the way, I discovered that most things I do are on a web browser, so that was easy.
 
But right now I'm stumped -- I've got DXLabs running under Wine (but haven't tried intenret connectivity yet), but I can't seem to figure out how to get my log database moved over.  When in Ubuntu, I can't "see" the Wine environment, and when in Wine I can't see the Ubuntu environment.  Very confusing.
 
Any help, please?

+ DXLab applications are not supported on Wine. It is only supported on Windows. See

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/DXLabLinux

       73,

             Dave, AA6YQ


Re: Moving to Ubuntu -- maybe

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
This latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge just really got me torqued this morning and I've spent most of the day trying to get moved over to Ubuntu.
 
Along the way, I discovered that most things I do are on a web browser, so that was easy.
 
But right now I'm stumped -- I've got DXLabs running under Wine (but haven't tried intenret connectivity yet), but I can't seem to figure out how to get my log database moved over.  When in Ubuntu, I can't "see" the Wine environment, and when in Wine I can't see the Ubuntu environment.  Very confusing.
 
Any help, please?

+ DXLab applications are not supported on Wine. It is only supported on Windows. See

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/DXLabLinux

       73,

             Dave, AA6YQ


Moving to Ubuntu -- maybe

Earl Needham
 

This latest forcible adoption of Microsoft Edge just really got me torqued this morning and I've spent most of the day trying to get moved over to Ubuntu.

Along the way, I discovered that most things I do are on a web browser, so that was easy.

But right now I'm stumped -- I've got DXLabs running under Wine (but haven't tried intenret connectivity yet), but I can't seem to figure out how to get my log database moved over.  When in Ubuntu, I can't "see" the Wine environment, and when in Wine I can't see the Ubuntu environment.  Very confusing.

Any help, please?

Thanks,
Earl
KD5XB


Re: Launcher installation issues

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ commentsb elow
I was able to resolve the issue by uninstalling Asus Armory Crate.  Once I did that, I was able to run DXLauncher and get DXLab up and running!

+ Thanks for the report, Steve. I've added an entry to

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/ApplicationInteference

      73,

            Dave, AA6YQ


Re: Launcher installation issues

Stephen Schrack
 

Hi Dave,

I was able to resolve the issue by uninstalling Asus Armory Crate.  Once I did that, I was able to run DXLauncher and get DXLab up and running!

Thanks for all the suggestions.

73 Steve N3MX 


Re: Launcher installation issues

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
DXLauncher does work in Safe Mode with Networking.  I updated it to 2.17.  However, I still cannot launch DXLauncher from my main account in normal mode.  Any suggestions?

+ That's hard evidence that one of the applications that you have Windows configured to automatically start when booted normally is interfering with the Launcher. The culprit is usually misconfigured or incompetent anti-malware, but other applications can also interfere. See

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/ApplicationInteference

    73,

            Dave, AA6YQ


Re: Several specific questions re: moving to new computer

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
I am reading and re-reading the "Relocating DXLAB Applications...." wiki and have a few questions:

Commander:  I have not modified anything other than setting up my radio.  I assume those setting will migrate with the workspace? It does not appear that any of the steps regarding files to move covers radios.  Radio is a Flex 6000 series, if that matters.

+ Correct.

 

DXKeeper:  "any files that store the parameters describing user-defined items".  Where would these be?

+ Where-ever your saved them.

 

I have defined three fields in the "user defined" area. 

+ On the Configuration window's "User Items" tab, do any of them specify a "Style" of "List"? If not, there are no associated filed.

 

Also, where is all the "MyQTH" data stored, do I have to worry about that, or is it in the log database?
+ That's maintained in a table in your Log database.
DXView:  Why move the LOTW and eQSL databases. Won't they just re-install?
+ On your new computer, you can direct DXView to update each of its databases.
WinWarbler:  If I don't need to save my minilogs, I don't even know what those are, do I have to move them? Or anything else? I just use Winwarbler in default mode. Never made any changes, I don't think.

+ A "minilog" is an ADIF file that records each that you've logged via WinWarbler. It's a backup.

 

Launcher: Sadly, I will be moving from a "D" drive to everything on "C".  Other than changing the path names as indicated, what else do I have to look out for?

+ That means all of your DXLab application settings that specify a pathname will have to be adjusted.  

       73,

             Dave, AA6YQ


Re: How does DXLAB, LOTW, and EQSL handle special short-term prefix usage ?

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ commens below

Oh boy, if that's the case, it's not worth it, lol.   The more I think about this, the more I am deciding to just make comments in DXLAB, and manually fill in qsl's if someone wants one with the special prefix.  A "worked as" message.
 
On FT8, I can add a "worked as" message to the FT8 log entry.
 
On EQSL, I can just manually add the comment "worked special prefix etc etc".
 
On LOTW, there is no way to reflect a second, or special call sign.  If someone needs the card for the special prefix, I guess I would handle it manually.
+ Request an LoTW Callsign Certificate for your special callsign, and use that Callsign Certificate when submitting QSOs made with your special callsign. If you don't do this, no one will receive LoTW confirmations for QSO made with you when you are using  your special callsign.

       73,

             Dave, AA6YQ

 


Re: How does DXLAB, LOTW, and EQSL handle special short-term prefix usage ?

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

 

1) get a new certificate for the temporary callsign to upload QSOs with
that call to LotW
2) configure DXKeeper to use the new certificate for uploading those
QSOs to LotW
3) create a new eQSL account and "nickname" for the new callsign and
link them to your primary account
4) Configure DXKeeper to use the new account/nickname for uploading QSOs
to eQSL
5) restore the use of your old call/certificate for LotW when the 30 day
period is over
6) restore use of your old account for eQSL when the 30 day period is

+ Those are steps 1.d and 1.e in

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/NewCallsign

+ I still haven't found any documentation on how the eQSL "nickname" mechanism actually works.

    73,

          Dave, AA6YQ

 


Re: Launcher installation issues

Stephen Schrack
 

Hi Dave,

DXLauncher does work in Safe Mode with Networking.  I updated it to 2.17.  However, I still cannot launch DXLauncher from my main account in normal mode.  Any suggestions?

73 Steve N3MX

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