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Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Norm - KC1BMD
 

FYI:
In "ARRL Current - April" - if you are a member, you may get it electronically. There was an article about it:

Membership
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--
73, Norm/KC1BMD


Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Peter Laws / N5UWY
 

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 4:17 PM Phil Cooper via groups.io
<pcooper@...> wrote:

I wonder if it may be an issue with which Windows version you are using, or maybe something else?
Meh, fully patched W10 whatever the current "H" is. Likewise FF is current.

If I *ever* make it to my laptop today, we'll see what happens with Safari.

I'm smart enough to know that just because *I* am having trouble that
it doesn't mean that *everyone* is having trouble.



--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
You said that changing your password was a problem...
Well, I was logged in to the ARRL website in Firefox, with my old username/password, so I logged out, and tried the login process, which asked me to register, which I did, and got an email from them with a one-time-password, which I used, and was able to log in with no problem.
As I said, it all went very smoothly.

I have now tried it from another PC, using Firefox, and my (new) username/password work just fine.

I wonder if it may be an issue with which Windows version you are using, or maybe something else?

+ Empirically, about 20% of ARRL members had difficulty with the Personify roll-out; I was one of them.

+ That these difficulties would occur was highly predictable. Testing to identify incompatibilities, and communication before the roll-out with members who would need to change their user names, passwords, or email forwarding rules would have made for a smooth, professional roll-out.

     73,

              Dave, AA6YQ 


Spot Filtering

Dave AA6YQ
 

I have added a diagram and description of the three levels of spot filtering available to SpotCollector users:

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/SpotDatabaseFilter

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Phil Cooper
 

Hi all, and Peter N5UWY,

You said that changing your password was a problem...
Well, I was logged in to the ARRL website in Firefox, with my old username/password, so I logged out, and tried the login process, which asked me to register, which I did, and got an email from them with a one-time-password, which I used, and was able to log in with no problem.
As I said, it all went very smoothly.

I have now tried it from another PC, using Firefox, and my (new) username/password work just fine.

I wonder if it may be an issue with which Windows version you are using, or maybe something else?

73 de Phil GU0SUP

-----Original Message-----
From: DXLab@groups.io [mailto:DXLab@groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Laws / N5UWY
Sent: 22 April 2022 19:11
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] ARRL Drops Fire Fox

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:30 PM Phil Cooper via groups.io
<pcooper@...> wrote:

Until now, I had not logged out, so was using my old settings, but today, I did the decent thing, and logged out, and then back in again.

I completed the log in procedure without any issues whatsoever, and all on Firefox.

It all seemed to work very easily here….
I can log in with FF as my browser but changing my password seems
problematic. When I use the credentials saved in my browser, I get in
to the ARRL.org site fine. When I use those same credentials to try
to reset my password (by this time, you are on Personify's
infrastructure), I am told that my password is invalid.

So, sure, FF works ... just that the definition of "works" may not be
what you expect. I'll try it in Safari later.


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Pete Smith
 

I believe there were alternatives, but that was the easiest.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.
On 4/22/2022 3:22 PM, Joe WB9SBD wrote:

What do you do if you lived all your life like downtown of any major city where like thousands never ever bothered getting a drivers license?

Joe WB9SBD / W9ET

On 4/22/2022 2:04 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

That'll teach you, Pete ;^).  Seriously, though, it has seemed to me recently that site after site has rolled out new software withouut adequate testing.  I went on IRS.GOV the other day to pay my taxes electronically, as I have for several years, and found myself to undergo a convoluted and complex identity verification routine involving (among other things) having to send in pictures of the front and back of my driver's license, all to satisfy something called ID.me which taking over the ID functions on the IRS web site. 

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.
On 4/22/2022 12:36 PM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:
I have just been informed that a friend has his up and running using FireFox.  I would say that the information I received earlier was not correct.
FireFox is not the Peferred browser, but that does not mean it will not work.  Please disregard my below email., I was going with what I was told by
a ARRL Representative.
Sorry, Pete, N4KW


On 4/22/2022 11:35 AM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:
If you are unable to log into the new ARRL software and are using FireFox do not try.
I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password and log into
your new software, I was advised that the new software does not support FireFox.

One would think the new software would at least have the capabilities of the old software.

73, Pete, N4KW



Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Dave AA6YQ
 

Four years ago, the ARRL spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to purchase a license to Personify, but failed to properly scope the effort required to integrate Personify with the ARRL's existing infrastructure and applications. As a result, ARRL management re-assigned the software developers who'd just finished adding WAZ support to LOTW to work on Personify integration (and re-implementation of the DXCC system, which evidently failed). Had those developersinstead been allowed to continue to work on LoTW, we'd likely have support for IOTA, USA-CA, JARL, and DARC awards, support for on-air activities like NPOTA, Centennial, and Grid Chase, and would have early iterations of a new user interface that could be localized to languages other than English, just as TQSL has been localized to ~15 languages.

The Personify roll-out was terrible. User IDs were silently changed to email addresses without notice, much less approval. ARRL staff were not trained to answer obvious questions; the false "ARRL Drops FireFox" meme is but one example. The user community has been given no explanation of the benefits of incorporating Personify; my request for this explanation on the ARRL-LoTW group has gone unanswered.

Software is eating the world, and that includes amateur radio and the ARRL. Providing high-quality information and services to members are table stakes. The ARRL's current management clearly needs help, but defensively rejects it when offered. On its current path, the ARRL is headed for a slow, ugly descent to oblivion - the bungled Personify acquisition and roll-out being just the latest episode . Don't like it? Engage with your ARRL Director.

     73,

            Dave, AA6YQ

 

 

 

 


Re: Clusters

Joe Subich, W4TV
 


ve7cc and dxspots
Make sure you have not set any server side filtering.

For both VE7CCC and DXspots (AE5E) the command is SET/NOFILTER

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2022-04-22 12:11 PM, Steven Stuckey (AC9GK) wrote:
Joe
ve7cc and dxspots
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:04 PM Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:


Which cluster software? Clear your server side filtering.


73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2022-04-22 11:44 AM, Steven Stuckey (AC9GK) wrote:
How do I see ssb on the clusters? All I see is FT-8 and FT-4

Thanks and 73


Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Joe WB9SBD
 

What do you do if you lived all your life like downtown of any major city where like thousands never ever bothered getting a drivers license?

Joe WB9SBD / W9ET

On 4/22/2022 2:04 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

That'll teach you, Pete ;^).  Seriously, though, it has seemed to me recently that site after site has rolled out new software withouut adequate testing.  I went on IRS.GOV the other day to pay my taxes electronically, as I have for several years, and found myself to undergo a convoluted and complex identity verification routine involving (among other things) having to send in pictures of the front and back of my driver's license, all to satisfy something called ID.me which taking over the ID functions on the IRS web site. 

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.
On 4/22/2022 12:36 PM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:
I have just been informed that a friend has his up and running using FireFox.  I would say that the information I received earlier was not correct.
FireFox is not the Peferred browser, but that does not mean it will not work.  Please disregard my below email., I was going with what I was told by
a ARRL Representative.
Sorry, Pete, N4KW


On 4/22/2022 11:35 AM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:
If you are unable to log into the new ARRL software and are using FireFox do not try.
I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password and log into
your new software, I was advised that the new software does not support FireFox.

One would think the new software would at least have the capabilities of the old software.

73, Pete, N4KW



Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Pete Smith
 

That'll teach you, Pete ;^).  Seriously, though, it has seemed to me recently that site after site has rolled out new software withouut adequate testing.  I went on IRS.GOV the other day to pay my taxes electronically, as I have for several years, and found myself to undergo a convoluted and complex identity verification routine involving (among other things) having to send in pictures of the front and back of my driver's license, all to satisfy something called ID.me which taking over the ID functions on the IRS web site. 

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite 
"retail" DX cluster.
On 4/22/2022 12:36 PM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:

I have just been informed that a friend has his up and running using FireFox.  I would say that the information I received earlier was not correct.
FireFox is not the Peferred browser, but that does not mean it will not work.  Please disregard my below email., I was going with what I was told by
a ARRL Representative.
Sorry, Pete, N4KW


On 4/22/2022 11:35 AM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:
If you are unable to log into the new ARRL software and are using FireFox do not try.
I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password and log into
your new software, I was advised that the new software does not support FireFox.

One would think the new software would at least have the capabilities of the old software.

73, Pete, N4KW


Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Jim N7US
 

Same here using Chrome.

My USERID used to be my call, but it seems to be my email now.


Jim N7US
Sent from Samsung tablet


-------- Original message --------
From: "Peter Laws / N5UWY via groups.io" <plaws0@...>
Date: 4/22/22 1:12 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] ARRL Drops Fire Fox

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:30 PM Phil Cooper via groups.io
<pcooper@...> wrote:

> Until now, I had not logged out, so was using my old settings, but today, I did the decent thing, and logged out, and then back in again.
>
> I completed the log in procedure without any issues whatsoever, and all on Firefox.
>
> It all seemed to work very easily here….

I can log in with FF as my browser but changing my password seems
problematic.  When I use the credentials saved in my browser, I get in
to the ARRL.org site fine.  When I use those same credentials to try
to reset my password (by this time, you are on Personify's
infrastructure), I am told that my password is invalid.

So, sure, FF works ... just that the definition of "works" may not be
what you expect.  I'll try it in Safari later.


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!




Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Peter Laws / N5UWY
 

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:30 PM Phil Cooper via groups.io
<pcooper@...> wrote:

Until now, I had not logged out, so was using my old settings, but today, I did the decent thing, and logged out, and then back in again.

I completed the log in procedure without any issues whatsoever, and all on Firefox.

It all seemed to work very easily here….
I can log in with FF as my browser but changing my password seems
problematic. When I use the credentials saved in my browser, I get in
to the ARRL.org site fine. When I use those same credentials to try
to reset my password (by this time, you are on Personify's
infrastructure), I am told that my password is invalid.

So, sure, FF works ... just that the definition of "works" may not be
what you expect. I'll try it in Safari later.


--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Phil Cooper
 

Hi all,

 

Until now, I had not logged out, so was using my old settings, but today, I did the decent thing, and logged out, and then back in again.

I completed the log in procedure without any issues whatsoever, and all on Firefox.

 

It all seemed to work very easily here….

 

73 de Phil GU0SUP

 

From: DXLab@groups.io [mailto:DXLab@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Fugleberg
Sent: 22 April 2022 17:55
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] ARRL Drops Fire Fox

 

Firefox seems to work fine on ARRL.org here. All users had to re-register on the new site, which apparently uses personifygo.com for that functionality. I used Firefox to do this.

 

Once I registered, I was able to log in and navigate the site (also using Firefox).

 

I do not store credentials in the browser, so did not get hung up with that.

73 de W0ZF 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:37 AM BILL KENNAMER <k5fuv@...> wrote:

No problem with Firefox here.

 

 

On Friday, April 22, 2022, 11:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:


> I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password
> and log into your new software, I was advised that the new software
> does not support FireFox.
I'm able to use FireFox but it was a struggle.

1) Using Tools -> Settings -> Privacy and Security in Firefox,
    delete the saved log-in to ARRL.org
2) Go to ARRL.org and click Login
3) At the login screen, enter your e-mail as the user name
    and click "Forgot Password?"  The system will send a new,
    temporary password to your e-mail.  Use that information
    to log-in and change your password.

This generally occurs because FireFox is using stored log-in credentials
that no longer meet the minimum standards for the new "Personify" back
end for ARRL.org.  Just another example of the incompetence of ARRL's
IT department and Director of Operations for failing to properly
transition the user file and failing to properly train the support
staff to assist users who fall victim to the incompetence.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2022-04-22 11:35 AM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:
> If you are unable to log into the new ARRL software and are using
> FireFox do not try.
> I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password and
> log into
> your new software, I was advised that the new software does not support
> FireFox.
>
> One would think the new software would at least have the capabilities of
> the old software.
>
> 73, Pete, N4KW
>






Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Dave Fugleberg
 

Firefox seems to work fine on ARRL.org here. All users had to re-register on the new site, which apparently uses personifygo.com for that functionality. I used Firefox to do this.

Once I registered, I was able to log in and navigate the site (also using Firefox).

I do not store credentials in the browser, so did not get hung up with that.
73 de W0ZF 


On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:37 AM BILL KENNAMER <k5fuv@...> wrote:
No problem with Firefox here.



On Friday, April 22, 2022, 11:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:


> I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password
> and log into your new software, I was advised that the new software
> does not support FireFox.
I'm able to use FireFox but it was a struggle.

1) Using Tools -> Settings -> Privacy and Security in Firefox,
    delete the saved log-in to ARRL.org
2) Go to ARRL.org and click Login
3) At the login screen, enter your e-mail as the user name
    and click "Forgot Password?"  The system will send a new,
    temporary password to your e-mail.  Use that information
    to log-in and change your password.

This generally occurs because FireFox is using stored log-in credentials
that no longer meet the minimum standards for the new "Personify" back
end for ARRL.org.  Just another example of the incompetence of ARRL's
IT department and Director of Operations for failing to properly
transition the user file and failing to properly train the support
staff to assist users who fall victim to the incompetence.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2022-04-22 11:35 AM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:
> If you are unable to log into the new ARRL software and are using
> FireFox do not try.
> I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password and
> log into
> your new software, I was advised that the new software does not support
> FireFox.
>
> One would think the new software would at least have the capabilities of
> the old software.
>
> 73, Pete, N4KW
>







Re: Clusters

 

There are currently very few SSB spots except during contests.  Most DX activity has switched to FT8/FT4.  There is more CW DX activity than SSB recently.  I need a couple more countries on LOTW on SSB so I don't have to get cards reviewed and turning on SSB spots shows very little activity.  The other reason is that CW has the Reverse Beacon Network generating spots and FT8 has PSKReporter. SSB has no computer generated spots.  They all have to be created manually.  
--
Bob AF9W
DXLab user since 2011


Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

BILL KENNAMER
 

No problem with Firefox here.

On Friday, April 22, 2022, 11:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:


> I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password
> and log into your new software, I was advised that the new software
> does not support FireFox.
I'm able to use FireFox but it was a struggle.

1) Using Tools -> Settings -> Privacy and Security in Firefox,
    delete the saved log-in to ARRL.org
2) Go to ARRL.org and click Login
3) At the login screen, enter your e-mail as the user name
    and click "Forgot Password?"  The system will send a new,
    temporary password to your e-mail.  Use that information
    to log-in and change your password.

This generally occurs because FireFox is using stored log-in credentials
that no longer meet the minimum standards for the new "Personify" back
end for ARRL.org.  Just another example of the incompetence of ARRL's
IT department and Director of Operations for failing to properly
transition the user file and failing to properly train the support
staff to assist users who fall victim to the incompetence.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2022-04-22 11:35 AM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:
> If you are unable to log into the new ARRL software and are using
> FireFox do not try.
> I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password and
> log into
> your new software, I was advised that the new software does not support
> FireFox.
>
> One would think the new software would at least have the capabilities of
> the old software.
>
> 73, Pete, N4KW
>







Re: ARRL Drops Fire Fox

Pete N4KW
 

I have just been informed that a friend has his up and running using FireFox.  I would say that the information I received earlier was not correct.
FireFox is not the Peferred browser, but that does not mean it will not work.  Please disregard my below email., I was going with what I was told by
a ARRL Representative.
Sorry, Pete, N4KW


On 4/22/2022 11:35 AM, Pete N4KW via groups.io wrote:

If you are unable to log into the new ARRL software and are using FireFox do not try.
I  asked why I have been unable to change my user name and password and log into
your new software, I was advised that the new software does not support FireFox.

One would think the new software would at least have the capabilities of the old software.

73, Pete, N4KW


Re: support for rigctl

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
I was also looking for Rigctld server support in Commander today.
I use a node red FTDX101 flow that connects to rigctld server running on the windows host.
Setting wsjtx to rigctld also allows the node red setup to work properly, however I have to use fake it instead of 
rigsplit, as The sub freq is no longer set via rigctld. Setting Commander to the shared splitter comport allows the SPE to follow
main vfo but with follow alternate disabled.

+ As I've stated earlier in this thread, Commander does not support rigctld or hamlib.

         73,

                Dave, AA6YQ


Re: Clusters

David Bunte
 

Steve -

At the bottom of the SC window, see the area marked "Filter: Band and Mode and Origin". Click on the "Mode" tab, and then click the box above "SSB"... the upper left box. Close that window and you should be all set.

Dave - K9FN


On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:45 AM Steven Stuckey (AC9GK) <ac9gkx@...> wrote:
How do I see ssb on the clusters? All I see is FT-8 and FT-4

Thanks and 73

--
Steven Stuckey - AC9GK - Ohio


Re: Clusters

Steven Stuckey (AC9GK)
 

Joe

ve7cc and dxspots


On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 12:04 PM Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:

Which cluster software?  Clear your server side filtering.


73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2022-04-22 11:44 AM, Steven Stuckey (AC9GK) wrote:
> How do I see ssb on the clusters? All I see is FT-8 and FT-4
>
> Thanks and 73
>







--
Steven Stuckey - AC9GK - Ohio

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