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Re: {SPAMFILTER} Re: : [DXLab] unable to upload DX Marathon

Anthony W. DePrato
 


https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GenerateMarathonSubmission

Iain: yes i used the above


+ I don't use Open Office, but the "protected cells can not be
modified" error message implies that you either didn't select the data correctly (steps 1b and 1c), or you didn't select the destination cell correctly (step 2a).
i understand that if you know a lot about these things that you can read a direction and know well i need to go to this page instead of this page . as in open paste spc. well it did not say what page this was on 1. the summission or 2 the score page. i guess many know this but
i did not and it took me a bit of time to figure out it was on the summission page and not the score page.


FWIW, I just walked through the documented steps for a 2020 submission
using Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8, and everything worked as expected.
it looks to me and i have done this in my line of work when writting directions . I tend to skip directions about switching from one item to another and take it for granted that the reader should know.
John was nice enought to take care of this for me. now i will try going thru it a few more times and see if i can get it right for a change \
i do want to thank everyone for the help.

73 Tony WA4JQS


Agreed. I'm not sure how the spreadsheets get processed after
submission. It seems that ADIF would make life easier for their
processing too, unless it's all done by human (which may be the case).

73,

~iain / N6ML






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Re: : [DXLab] unable to upload DX Marathon

dxradio33
 

I could be wrong, but I think CQ magazine is a little lite in the staffing department. The mag has been run on a skinny diet I believe.

Just my HO.
Joe

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From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of iain macdonnell - N6ML
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 15:59
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Subject: Re: : [DXLab] unable to upload DX Marathon

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 12:06 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

I have tried a number of times to get my 2020 score sheet to populate
i followed the directions by N6ML in the DXLAB wiki. (which may need a
few wording changes ) all goes well till i get to the click ok in the
special paste window when i click it i get an error (protected cells
can not be modified) i know i must be doing something wrong. have
wasted 3 days trying to figure this out and now i am well pasted the
submission deadline. so i may just junk the files and forget about
doing the dx matathon as i always seem to have problems getting the
score sheet to populate. i figure it is op error. even thought i read
the directions every time really gets tiring

+ I assume that you are referring to the "Submission Scoresheet
+ Generation using Using Open Office" section in

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GenerateMarathonSubmission

+ I don't use Open Office, but the "protected cells can not be modified" error message implies that you either didn't select the data correctly (steps 1b and 1c), or you didn't select the destination cell correctly (step 2a).
FWIW, I just walked through the documented steps for a 2020 submission using Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8, and everything worked as expected.


+ Life would have been easier for everyone had CQ DX Marathon simply accepted an ADIF file, but we're forced to deal with the added complexity of spreadsheets with protected cells. If you had Microsoft Excel installed, DXKeeper would populate the spreadsheet directly, with no manual cutting and pasting.
Agreed. I'm not sure how the spreadsheets get processed after submission. It seems that ADIF would make life easier for their processing too, unless it's all done by human (which may be the case).

73,

~iain / N6ML


Re: {SPAMFILTER} Re: [DXLab] unable to FILL DX Marathon Score sheet

Anthony W. DePrato
 

Dave:
Thanks being a person that can use software but has not ideal about writing it i only know that ADIF was alway ez to do. Cabrillo not so much. i agree ADIF should be the only file used for uploading contest.
thank 73 Tony


At 04:25 PM 1/9/2021, you wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below
a cabrillo or adif file would have been the correct way to go.

+ Cabrillo is an abomination, with different formats for different contests. Cabrillo is inferior to ADIF in every relevant dimension. Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.

         73,

                Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: DXView plot SpotCollector filtered view?

Russ Ravella
 

Hi Dave,

Happy New Year !

I have often wished for such an option. Is there any plan to ever add one ?

Thanks,
Russ KR6W

On Jan 9, 2021, at 4:18 PM, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

It is possible I just can't find it, but is there any way to set DXView (with DX Atlas) to plot spots currently visible in the SpotCollector filtered view?

+ DXView provides an independent view of the contents of SpotCollector's Spot Database, controlled by the "Band Filter", "Mode Filter", "Continent Filter", and "Origin Filter" panels on the "Plot Settings" tab of DXView's Configuration window. There is not currently an option to ignore these panel settings and display whatever SpotCollector's "Spot Database Display" contains.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ







Re: DXView plot SpotCollector filtered view?

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

It is possible I just can't find it, but is there any way to set DXView (with DX Atlas) to plot spots currently visible in the SpotCollector filtered view?

+ DXView provides an independent view of the contents of SpotCollector's Spot Database, controlled by the "Band Filter", "Mode Filter", "Continent Filter", and "Origin Filter" panels on the "Plot Settings" tab of DXView's Configuration window. There is not currently an option to ignore these panel settings and display whatever SpotCollector's "Spot Database Display" contains.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Re: unable to FILL DX Marathon Score sheet

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:25 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

a cabrillo or adif file would have been the correct way to go.

+ Cabrillo is an abomination, with different formats for different contests. Cabrillo is inferior to ADIF in every relevant dimension. Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.
A quick Google search finds that the first version of ADIF came into being in 1997, and also finds evidence of Cabrillo existing in 1997. I haven't found anything that states when Cabrillo was created, but it certainly wasn't long after ADIF - I suspect they were developed around the same time.

+ ADIF 1.0 was developed and introduced in early 1996:

http://adif.org/100/adif_100.htm


I agree that Cabrillo is pretty awful as an "interchange" format, but it wasn't really designed for that - rather for submitting contest logs, which have a well-defined fixed format (or at least they did in those days).

By today's standards, ADIF is "kindof icky" too, IMO (having to deal with the length for each field, etc.).

+ Having a length specifier for each field is far superior to using escape characters for transparency; it eliminates the need for the parser to inspect each of a field's characters one-by-one. Yes, length specifiers make manual changes by humans more difficult, but good logging applications reduce if not eliminate the need to do that.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Re: unable to FILL DX Marathon Score sheet

Joe Subich, W4TV
 

Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.
There is debate over which came first.

ARRL adopted Cabrillo v 2.0 for ARRL contest reporting in 1999. <https://www.eham.net/article/131>. The original cabrillo v 1.0 (aka
"ARRL Format "V1") dates to 1993. See:
Slide 12: <https://www.contestuniversity.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/K5ZD_CTU_2015_Why_Cabrillo_is_Important_to_you.pptx>

The adoption date for ADIF 1.0 - as shown at
<https://adif.org/100/adif_100.htm>
is 11 July 2003.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-01-09 4:25 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below


a cabrillo or adif file would have been the correct way to go.
+ Cabrillo is an abomination, with different formats for different contests. Cabrillo is inferior to ADIF in every relevant dimension. Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ


Re: unable to FILL DX Marathon Score sheet

iain macdonnell - N6ML
 

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:25 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

a cabrillo or adif file would have been the correct way to go.

+ Cabrillo is an abomination, with different formats for different contests. Cabrillo is inferior to ADIF in every relevant dimension. Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.
A quick Google search finds that the first version of ADIF came into
being in 1997, and also finds evidence of Cabrillo existing in 1997. I
haven't found anything that states when Cabrillo was created, but it
certainly wasn't long after ADIF - I suspect they were developed
around the same time.

I agree that Cabrillo is pretty awful as an "interchange" format, but
it wasn't really designed for that - rather for submitting contest
logs, which have a well-defined fixed format (or at least they did in
those days).

By today's standards, ADIF is "kindof icky" too, IMO (having to deal
with the length for each field, etc.).

73,

~iain / N6ML


Re: unable to FILL DX Marathon Score sheet

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
a cabrillo or adif file would have been the correct way to go.

+ Cabrillo is an abomination, with different formats for different contests. Cabrillo is inferior to ADIF in every relevant dimension. Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.

         73,

                Dave, AA6YQ


DXView plot SpotCollector filtered view?

Jon KM8V
 

It is possible I just can't find it, but is there any way to set DXView (with DX Atlas) to plot spots currently visible in the SpotCollector filtered view?

73 de KM8V Jon


Re: : [DXLab] unable to upload DX Marathon

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
Agreed. I'm not sure how the spreadsheets get processed after
submission. It seems that ADIF would make life easier for their
processing too, unless it's all done by human (which may be the case).

+ My recollection is that CQ DX Marathon manager John K9EL conceptually agrees, but has no way to develop the software required to accept ADIF files.

      73,

           Dave, AA6YQ


Re: : [DXLab] unable to upload DX Marathon

iain macdonnell - N6ML
 

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 12:06 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

I have tried a number of times to get my 2020 score sheet to populate i followed the directions by N6ML in the DXLAB wiki. (which may need a few wording changes ) all goes well till i get to the click ok in the special paste window when i click it i get an error (protected cells can not be modified)
i know i must be doing something wrong. have wasted 3 days trying to figure this out and now i am well pasted the submission deadline. so i may just junk the files and forget about doing the dx matathon as i always seem to have problems getting the score sheet to populate. i figure it is op error. even thought i read the directions every time really gets tiring

+ I assume that you are referring to the "Submission Scoresheet Generation using Using Open Office" section in

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GenerateMarathonSubmission

+ I don't use Open Office, but the "protected cells can not be modified" error message implies that you either didn't select the data correctly (steps 1b and 1c), or you didn't select the destination cell correctly (step 2a).
FWIW, I just walked through the documented steps for a 2020 submission
using Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8, and everything worked as expected.


+ Life would have been easier for everyone had CQ DX Marathon simply accepted an ADIF file, but we're forced to deal with the added complexity of spreadsheets with protected cells. If you had Microsoft Excel installed, DXKeeper would populate the spreadsheet directly, with no manual cutting and pasting.
Agreed. I'm not sure how the spreadsheets get processed after
submission. It seems that ADIF would make life easier for their
processing too, unless it's all done by human (which may be the case).

73,

~iain / N6ML


Re: unable to FILL DX Marathon Score sheet

Anthony W. DePrato
 

At 03:06 PM 1/9/2021, you wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below
I have tried a number of times to get my 2020 score sheet to populate i followed the directions by N6ML in the DXLAB wiki. (which may need a few wording changes ) all goes well till i get to the click ok in the special paste window when i click it i get an error (protected cells can not be modified)
i know i must be doing something wrong. have wasted 3 days trying to figure this out and now i am well pasted the submission deadline. so i may just junk the files and forget about doing the dx matathon as i always seem to have problems getting the score sheet to populate. i figure it is op error. even thought i read the directions every time really gets tiring

+ I assume that you are referring to the "Submission Scoresheet Generation using Using Open Office" section in


YES


https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GenerateMarathonSubmission

Opened and followed the above


+ I don't use Open Office, but the "protected cells can not be modified" error message implies that you either didn't select the data correctly (steps 1b and 1c), or you didn't select the destination cell correctly (step 2a).


Went and followed 1b and 1c again. yes only two were checked per steps. and yes 2a destination cell was selected. tried again same error.


+ Life would have been easier for everyone had CQ DX Marathon simply accepted an ADIF file, but we're forced to deal with the added complexity of spreadsheets with protected cells. If you had Microsoft Excel installed, DXKeeper would populate the spreadsheet directly, with no manual cutting and pasting.



Dave man are you correct on the above. this is the ONLY contest i have trouble with. been contesting since the 60's using computers since they came out and ham software was written. a cabellis or adif file would have been the correct way to go. Excell costs are out of reach for some of us old guys. my last suit was office 2010. guess i need to set up an old computer just to complete the score sheet for one contest. or just forget about this one completely. Thank you for your reply have a great weekend.

Outstanding software you have written
73 Tony WA4JQS / VP8SSI / 3Y0PI

       73,

               Dave, AA6YQ

 

 
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Re: DXK Sort

Dave AA6YQ
 

Sorting DXKeeper's Log Page Display is described here:

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxkeeper/Help/SortLog.htm

       73,

              Dave, AA6YQ


Re: : [DXLab] unable to upload DX Marathon

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
I have tried a number of times to get my 2020 score sheet to populate i followed the directions by N6ML in the DXLAB wiki. (which may need a few wording changes ) all goes well till i get to the click ok in the special paste window when i click it i get an error (protected cells can not be modified)
i know i must be doing something wrong. have wasted 3 days trying to figure this out and now i am well pasted the submission deadline. so i may just junk the files and forget about doing the dx matathon as i always seem to have problems getting the score sheet to populate. i figure it is op error. even thought i read the directions every time really gets tiring

+ I assume that you are referring to the "Submission Scoresheet Generation using Using Open Office" section in

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GenerateMarathonSubmission

+ I don't use Open Office, but the "protected cells can not be modified" error message implies that you either didn't select the data correctly (steps 1b and 1c), or you didn't select the destination cell correctly (step 2a).

+ Life would have been easier for everyone had CQ DX Marathon simply accepted an ADIF file, but we're forced to deal with the added complexity of spreadsheets with protected cells. If you had Microsoft Excel installed, DXKeeper would populate the spreadsheet directly, with no manual cutting and pasting.

       73,

               Dave, AA6YQ

 

 


Re: DXK Sort

Mike Flowers
 

I’m sure the poster of <SHIFT> click meant to say <CNTL> click.

 

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Denneny
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 09:52
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] DXK Sort

 

<CTRL> click did it Mike. <SHIFT> click did not.  Thanks Mike - Jim K7EG


{SPAMFILTER} : [DXLab] unable to upload DX Marathon

Anthony W. DePrato
 

btw i am using open office Apache 4.1.3 .
73 Tony WA4JQS






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: [DXLab] unable to upload DX Marathon

Anthony W. DePrato
 

I have tried a number of times to get my 2020 score sheet to populate i followed the directions by N6ML in the DXLAB wiki. (which may need a few wording changes ) all goes well till i get to the click ok in the special paste window when i click it i get an error (protected cells can not be modified)
i know i must be doing something wrong. have wasted 3 days trying to figure this out and now i am well pasted the submission deadline. so i may just junk the files and forget about doing the dx matathon as i always seem to have problems getting the score sheet to populate. i figure it is op error. even thought i read the directions every time really gets tiring .
73 Tony WA4JQS


Re: DXK Sort

Jim Denneny
 

<CTRL> click did it Mike. <SHIFT> click did not.  Thanks Mike - Jim K7EG


Re: DXK Sort

Jim Denneny
 

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