Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.

There is debate over which came first.

ARRL adopted Cabrillo v 2.0 for ARRL contest reporting in 1999. <https://www.eham.net/article/131>. The original cabrillo v 1.0 (aka
"ARRL Format "V1") dates to 1993. See:
Slide 12: <https://www.contestuniversity.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/K5ZD_CTU_2015_Why_Cabrillo_is_Important_to_you.pptx>

The adoption date for ADIF 1.0 - as shown at
<https://adif.org/100/adif_100.htm>
is 11 July 2003.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2021-01-09 4:25 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

a cabrillo or adif file would have been the correct way to go.

+ Cabrillo is an abomination, with different formats for different contests. Cabrillo is inferior to ADIF in every relevant dimension. Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.
73,
Dave, AA6YQ

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 1:25 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

a cabrillo or adif file would have been the correct way to go.

+ Cabrillo is an abomination, with different formats for different contests. Cabrillo is inferior to ADIF in every relevant dimension. Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.

A quick Google search finds that the first version of ADIF came into
being in 1997, and also finds evidence of Cabrillo existing in 1997. I
haven't found anything that states when Cabrillo was created, but it
certainly wasn't long after ADIF - I suspect they were developed
around the same time.

I agree that Cabrillo is pretty awful as an "interchange" format, but
it wasn't really designed for that - rather for submitting contest
logs, which have a well-defined fixed format (or at least they did in
those days).

By today's standards, ADIF is "kindof icky" too, IMO (having to deal
with the length for each field, etc.).

73,

~iain / N6ML

+ AA6YQ comments below

a cabrillo or adif file would have been the correct way to go.

+ Cabrillo is an abomination, with different formats for different contests. Cabrillo is inferior to ADIF in every relevant dimension. Why it was developed when ADIF was already available, I have no idea.

         73,

                Dave, AA6YQ

It is possible I just can't find it, but is there any way to set DXView (with DX Atlas) to plot spots currently visible in the SpotCollector filtered view?

73 de KM8V Jon

+ AA6YQ comments below

Agreed. I'm not sure how the spreadsheets get processed after
submission. It seems that ADIF would make life easier for their
processing too, unless it's all done by human (which may be the case).

+ My recollection is that CQ DX Marathon manager John K9EL conceptually agrees, but has no way to develop the software required to accept ADIF files.

      73,

           Dave, AA6YQ

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 12:06 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

I have tried a number of times to get my 2020 score sheet to populate i followed the directions by N6ML in the DXLAB wiki. (which may need a few wording changes ) all goes well till i get to the click ok in the special paste window when i click it i get an error (protected cells can not be modified)
i know i must be doing something wrong. have wasted 3 days trying to figure this out and now i am well pasted the submission deadline. so i may just junk the files and forget about doing the dx matathon as i always seem to have problems getting the score sheet to populate. i figure it is op error. even thought i read the directions every time really gets tiring

+ I assume that you are referring to the "Submission Scoresheet Generation using Using Open Office" section in

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GenerateMarathonSubmission

+ I don't use Open Office, but the "protected cells can not be modified" error message implies that you either didn't select the data correctly (steps 1b and 1c), or you didn't select the destination cell correctly (step 2a).

FWIW, I just walked through the documented steps for a 2020 submission
using Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8, and everything worked as expected.

+ Life would have been easier for everyone had CQ DX Marathon simply accepted an ADIF file, but we're forced to deal with the added complexity of spreadsheets with protected cells. If you had Microsoft Excel installed, DXKeeper would populate the spreadsheet directly, with no manual cutting and pasting.

Agreed. I'm not sure how the spreadsheets get processed after
submission. It seems that ADIF would make life easier for their
processing too, unless it's all done by human (which may be the case).

73,

~iain / N6ML

At 03:06 PM 1/9/2021, you wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below

I have tried a number of times to get my 2020 score sheet to populate i followed the directions by N6ML in the DXLAB wiki. (which may need a few wording changes ) all goes well till i get to the click ok in the special paste window when i click it i get an error (protected cells can not be modified)

i know i must be doing something wrong. have wasted 3 days trying to figure this out and now i am well pasted the submission deadline. so i may just junk the files and forget about doing the dx matathon as i always seem to have problems getting the score sheet to populate. i figure it is op error. even thought i read the directions every time really gets tiring

+ I assume that you are referring to the "Submission Scoresheet Generation using Using Open Office" section in

YES

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GenerateMarathonSubmission

Opened and followed the above

+ I don't use Open Office, but the "protected cells can not be modified" error message implies that you either didn't select the data correctly (steps 1b and 1c), or you didn't select the destination cell correctly (step 2a).

Went and followed 1b and 1c again. yes only two were checked per steps. and yes 2a destination cell was selected. tried again same error.

+ Life would have been easier for everyone had CQ DX Marathon simply accepted an ADIF file, but we're forced to deal with the added complexity of spreadsheets with protected cells. If you had Microsoft Excel installed, DXKeeper would populate the spreadsheet directly, with no manual cutting and pasting.

Dave man are you correct on the above. this is the ONLY contest i have trouble with. been contesting since the 60's using computers since they came out and ham software was written. a cabellis or adif file would have been the correct way to go. Excell costs are out of reach for some of us old guys. my last suit was office 2010. guess i need to set up an old computer just to complete the score sheet for one contest. or just forget about this one completely. Thank you for your reply have a great weekend.

Outstanding software you have written
73 Tony WA4JQS / VP8SSI / 3Y0PI

       73,

               Dave, AA6YQ

 

 
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       73,

              Dave, AA6YQ

+ AA6YQ comments below

I have tried a number of times to get my 2020 score sheet to populate i followed the directions by N6ML in the DXLAB wiki. (which may need a few wording changes ) all goes well till i get to the click ok in the special paste window when i click it i get an error (protected cells can not be modified)
i know i must be doing something wrong. have wasted 3 days trying to figure this out and now i am well pasted the submission deadline. so i may just junk the files and forget about doing the dx matathon as i always seem to have problems getting the score sheet to populate. i figure it is op error. even thought i read the directions every time really gets tiring

+ I assume that you are referring to the "Submission Scoresheet Generation using Using Open Office" section in

https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GenerateMarathonSubmission

+ I don't use Open Office, but the "protected cells can not be modified" error message implies that you either didn't select the data correctly (steps 1b and 1c), or you didn't select the destination cell correctly (step 2a).

+ Life would have been easier for everyone had CQ DX Marathon simply accepted an ADIF file, but we're forced to deal with the added complexity of spreadsheets with protected cells. If you had Microsoft Excel installed, DXKeeper would populate the spreadsheet directly, with no manual cutting and pasting.

       73,

               Dave, AA6YQ

 

 

btw i am using open office Apache 4.1.3 .
73 Tony WA4JQS






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I have tried a number of times to get my 2020 score sheet to populate i followed the directions by N6ML in the DXLAB wiki. (which may need a few wording changes ) all goes well till i get to the click ok in the special paste window when i click it i get an error (protected cells can not be modified)
i know i must be doing something wrong. have wasted 3 days trying to figure this out and now i am well pasted the submission deadline. so i may just junk the files and forget about doing the dx matathon as i always seem to have problems getting the score sheet to populate. i figure it is op error. even thought i read the directions every time really gets tiring .
73 Tony WA4JQS

<CTRL> click did it Mike. <SHIFT> click did not.  Thanks Mike - Jim K7EG

Filter by DATE does not work

Sort by DATE does not work.  Still sorting by PREFIX

Thanks Gordon. <SHIFT> Click does not change sort. Still sorts by Prefix.  Filter is NONE

Jim

Thanks Gordon. <SHIFT> Click does not change sort. Still sorts by Prefix.  Filter is NONE

Jim

Today DXK opened with a strange sort never seen before.  There is no filter checked . UTC is checked.  Display shows all prefixes in order worked. Shutdown DXK and reopened. Same display. How do I restore normal sort?  Reboot does not fix. Recompute k7eg.mdb does not fix.  Jim K7EG

Today DXK opened with a strange sort never seen before.  There is no filter checked . UTC is checked.  Display shows all prefixes in order worked. Shutdown DXK and reopened. Same display. How do I restore normal sort?  Jim K7EG

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Jim,

    <SHIFT> <CLICK> on the X button to the right of the filter box at the bottom of the "Log QSOs" tab.

Gordon - N1MGO