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Re: 60 Meter Real time Award Tracking

Hasan Schiers N0AN
 

Bravo, Joe, I couldn't agree more.
73, N0AN
Hasan


On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 2:25 PM Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@...> wrote:
On 2020-11-19 2:58 PM, Dave / NR1DX wrote:
 > Rather than assail the "60M chicken" here tying up bandwidth. The next
 > question  what would be a BETTER FORUM to get the ARRL's attention and
 > change their mind set on their "60M EGG"?

The forum would be one-on-one with your ARRL Director.  HOWEVER, be
aware that the current policy is set by the Board with input from the
Association's FCC attorney.  There are two issues at stake ... NTIA
who control 5MHz on behalf of *GOVERNMENT USERS* who are primary there
does not like amateur use of those five frequencies.  Continued action
by US amateurs to ignore the current rules at 5 MHz puts implementation
of the 50 KHz wide band approved at the last WARC is jeopardy.

I seriously doubt that ARRL will make any policy change that will
cause increased friction and/or decrease the chances of getting US
access to the worldwide 5 MHz allocation.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-11-19 2:58 PM, Dave / NR1DX wrote:
> All
>
>   I would not suppose to speak for AA6YQ, but he has made his position
> on this clear several times in the past.
> When ARRL recognizes 60M QSO's for DXCC , then DX LAB will follow suit
> ...and NOT until.
>
> Rather than assail the "60M chicken" here tying up bandwidth. The next
> question  what would be a BETTER FORUM to get the ARRL's attention and
> change their mind set on their "60M EGG"?
>
> Dave
> NR1DX
>
> On 11/19/2020 1:28 PM, F.R. Ashley wrote:
>> NR1DX and others...
>>
>> Lately I have been trying to finish off 80 meter DXCC and stuck around
>> the 90 confirmed mark.�� I haven't been seeing much DX on 80M FT8 lately
>> so for the heck of it I went to 60M, and man, the band was jammed with
>> DX stations!� Now I know why I'm not seeing much on 80.
>>
>> Back in January I was in St. Kitts and when I called CQ on 60 it sounded
>> like half of EU answered and I ran a string of EUs for a few hours.� I
>> know the V4 prefixed helped a lot but I was surprised at the amount of
>> interest on 60 meters seeing how none of the QSO's are good for any
>> awards. I had several direct QSL requests for a card.� Perhaps they have
>> worked everything on all the other bands and looking for a new thrill,
>> hi.
>>
>> 73 Buddy WB4M
>>
>> On 11/18/2020 9:39 PM, Dave / NR1DX wrote:
>>> Was just curious.� I know you your position on ARRL and the band and
>>> am not here to debate it
>>>
>>> FT8 has put 60M on the map so to speak .You can work the "equivalent"
>>> of DXCC on 60M FT8 5357 these days in a matter of months (I am at 125
>>> after a year
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>






Re: 60 Meter Real time Award Tracking

Joe Subich, W4TV
 

On 2020-11-19 2:58 PM, Dave / NR1DX wrote:
Rather than assail the "60M chicken" here tying up bandwidth. The next
question what would be a BETTER FORUM to get the ARRL's attention and
change their mind set on their "60M EGG"?
The forum would be one-on-one with your ARRL Director. HOWEVER, be
aware that the current policy is set by the Board with input from the
Association's FCC attorney. There are two issues at stake ... NTIA
who control 5MHz on behalf of *GOVERNMENT USERS* who are primary there
does not like amateur use of those five frequencies. Continued action
by US amateurs to ignore the current rules at 5 MHz puts implementation
of the 50 KHz wide band approved at the last WARC is jeopardy.

I seriously doubt that ARRL will make any policy change that will
cause increased friction and/or decrease the chances of getting US
access to the worldwide 5 MHz allocation.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-11-19 2:58 PM, Dave / NR1DX wrote:
All
 I would not suppose to speak for AA6YQ, but he has made his position on this clear several times in the past.
When ARRL recognizes 60M QSO's for DXCC , then DX LAB will follow suit ...and NOT until.
Rather than assail the "60M chicken" here tying up bandwidth. The next question  what would be a BETTER FORUM to get the ARRL's attention and change their mind set on their "60M EGG"?
Dave
NR1DX
On 11/19/2020 1:28 PM, F.R. Ashley wrote:
NR1DX and others...

Lately I have been trying to finish off 80 meter DXCC and stuck around
the 90 confirmed mark.�� I haven't been seeing much DX on 80M FT8 lately
so for the heck of it I went to 60M, and man, the band was jammed with
DX stations!� Now I know why I'm not seeing much on 80.

Back in January I was in St. Kitts and when I called CQ on 60 it sounded
like half of EU answered and I ran a string of EUs for a few hours.� I
know the V4 prefixed helped a lot but I was surprised at the amount of
interest on 60 meters seeing how none of the QSO's are good for any
awards. I had several direct QSL requests for a card.� Perhaps they have
worked everything on all the other bands and looking for a new thrill, hi.

73 Buddy WB4M

On 11/18/2020 9:39 PM, Dave / NR1DX wrote:
Was just curious.� I know you your position on ARRL and the band and
am not here to debate it

FT8 has put 60M on the map so to speak .You can work the "equivalent"
of DXCC on 60M FT8 5357 these days in a matter of months (I am at 125
after a year




Re: 60 Meter Real time Award Tracking

Dave / NR1DX
 

All

 I would not suppose to speak for AA6YQ, but he has made his position on this clear several times in the past.
When ARRL recognizes 60M QSO's for DXCC , then DX LAB will follow suit ...and NOT until.

Rather than assail the "60M chicken" here tying up bandwidth. The next question  what would be a BETTER FORUM to get the ARRL's attention and change their mind set on their "60M EGG"?

Dave
NR1DX

On 11/19/2020 1:28 PM, F.R. Ashley wrote:
NR1DX and others...

Lately I have been trying to finish off 80 meter DXCC and stuck around
the 90 confirmed mark.�� I haven't been seeing much DX on 80M FT8 lately
so for the heck of it I went to 60M, and man, the band was jammed with
DX stations!� Now I know why I'm not seeing much on 80.

Back in January I was in St. Kitts and when I called CQ on 60 it sounded
like half of EU answered and I ran a string of EUs for a few hours.� I
know the V4 prefixed helped a lot but I was surprised at the amount of
interest on 60 meters seeing how none of the QSO's are good for any
awards. I had several direct QSL requests for a card.� Perhaps they have
worked everything on all the other bands and looking for a new thrill, hi.

73 Buddy WB4M

On 11/18/2020 9:39 PM, Dave / NR1DX wrote:
Was just curious.� I know you your position on ARRL and the band and
am not here to debate it

FT8 has put 60M on the map so to speak .You can work the "equivalent"
of DXCC on 60M FT8 5357 these days in a matter of months (I am at 125
after a year


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Re: Spot collector settings reset to defaults on start up

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
When I started DXLab this morning, Spot Collector came up with a pop-up with lots of text and Enter your callsign. I couldn't read the text as it was mostly greyed out, but I entered my callsign anyhow.

+ That window is displayed on startup when SpotCollector attempts to retrieve your callsign from the Windows Registry and finds it empty. The text displayed in black font on a gray background is

SpotCollector relies on DXCC, eQSL, LoTW, and USAP databases that are updated at varying frequencies. DXLab's DXView application will notify you when database updates are available, and download them with a mouse click. If you haven't directed the DXLab Launcher to install DXView, consider doing so.

If you do not install DXView, up-to-date databases can be downloaded into SpotCollector's Databases folder from the Auxiliary Files column of the table in http://www.dxlabsuite.com/download.htm#AvailableReleases

(My excuse: I was doing this prior to my first coffee of the day).
When DXLac was all running (all modules except PF enabled) I noticed I was getting no spots.  Checking SC config, I found that all 4 spot sources had reset to the defaults and the auto boxes were not checked.
While it was relatively simple to retrieve and enter the credentials of my usual spot sources, I'd prefer not to have to repeat this. 
Any clues as to why this happened? 

+ Either you inadvertently cleared the the "Operator Callsign" setting in the upper right corner of the Configuration window's General tab, or Windows suffered a lost of information from the Windows Registry; check the Windows Event Logs to see if a hardware or software failure was recorded around the time this occurred.

     73,

            Dave, AA6YQ

 


Re: SC email alarm

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
The Spot collector email alarm is very helpful. When SC is restarted, for example after an update of databases, the alarm is no longer enabled, the enable box is no longer checked. Does anyone else experience this behavior? What can be done to keep the box checked?

+ If you're referring to the Enable box in the upper-left corner of the Configuration window's "Email alarm" tab, that setting is saved at shutdown and restored at startup like every other SpotCollector setting. SpotCollector only disables this option if an attempt to send a message fails, and the following retry also fails; when that happens, the words "Email notification disabled" appear in the Main window's title bar.

             73,



Re: 60 Meter Real time Award Tracking

F.R. Ashley
 

NR1DX and others...

Lately I have been trying to finish off 80 meter DXCC and stuck around
the 90 confirmed mark.   I haven't been seeing much DX on 80M FT8 lately
so for the heck of it I went to 60M, and man, the band was jammed with
DX stations!  Now I know why I'm not seeing much on 80.

Back in January I was in St. Kitts and when I called CQ on 60 it sounded
like half of EU answered and I ran a string of EUs for a few hours.  I
know the V4 prefixed helped a lot but I was surprised at the amount of
interest on 60 meters seeing how none of the QSO's are good for any
awards. I had several direct QSL requests for a card.  Perhaps they have
worked everything on all the other bands and looking for a new thrill, hi.

73 Buddy WB4M

On 11/18/2020 9:39 PM, Dave / NR1DX wrote:
Was just curious.  I know you your position on ARRL and the band and
am not here to debate it

FT8 has put 60M on the map so to speak .You can work the "equivalent"
of DXCC on 60M FT8 5357 these days in a matter of months (I am at 125
after a year


Spot collector settings reset to defaults on start up

David Aslin
 

Hi all,
When I started DXLab this morning, Spot Collector came up with a pop-up with lots of text and Enter your callsign. I couldn't read the text as it was mostly greyed out, but I entered my callsign anyhow. (My excuse: I was doing this prior to my first coffee of the day).
When DXLac was all running (all modules except PF enabled) I noticed I was getting no spots.  Checking SC config, I found that all 4 spot sources had reset to the defaults and the auto boxes were not checked.
While it was relatively simple to retrieve and enter the credentials of my usual spot sources, I'd prefer not to have to repeat this. 
Any clues as to why this happened?  DXLab and its databases are fully up-to-date and there hasn't been a W10 update on my shack PC for a week or more.
73, David G3WGN M6O


SC email alarm

Stephen Rabinowitz
 

The Spot collector email alarm is very helpful. When SC is restarted, for example after an update of databases, the alarm is no longer enabled, the enable box is no longer checked. Does anyone else experience this behavior? What can be done to keep the box checked?
73, Steve K2SN


Spotting via DXKeeper

Tony Dixon G4CJC
 

Hi Dave,
Right click on a worked station in DXKeeper gives the options, for example, "Spot G4CJC on 14.081.2 in FT4" or "Spot G4CJC on 14.081.2 in FT4 with notes". Fine, except the "with notes " one does not have "FT4" included. If it could it would make life a little less "Doh! forgot to include the mode". The spot then goes along with odd socks to odd spot land. as no mode is included. Is this a possibility Dave?
Cheers 73
Tony G4CJC


RESOLVED Fwd: [DXLab] Marking QSOs Uploaded to LOTW

Fred - NA2U
 

Rebooting eventually fixed. 

73,

Fred/NA2U

Begin forwarded message:

From: Fred - NA2U <cwman@...>
Date: November 19, 2020 at 7:32:14 AM MST
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] Marking QSOs Uploaded to LOTW
Reply-To: DXLab@groups.io

Thanks, Dave.  That worked.  

But, I then tried “Sync LotW QSLs” and I get error:  Unable to download from LotW:  invalid request

???

73 from the desert,

Fred/NA2U

On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below
Thanks, Dave.  Is this a one-Q-at-a-time operation?

+ One click of the "Update from LoTW" button on the Main window's "Log QSOs" tab will query LoTW for every QSO in the Log Page Display, and update each QSO with the results received. This operation is relatively slow because DXKeeper queries LoTW one logged QSO at a time. Depending upon how many QSOs you will have in the Log Page Display, and how many total QSOs you've uploaded to LoTW, depressing the CTRL key while clicking the "Sync LoTW QSOs" button may be faster, as it directs LoTW to report all accepted QSOs, and then updates the logged QSOs individually based on the results of that report. 

+ Either way, I'd wait to initiate the operation before retiring for the evening.

        73,

            Dave, AA6YQ






Re: Marking QSOs Uploaded to LOTW

Fred - NA2U
 

Thanks, Dave.  That worked.  

But, I then tried “Sync LotW QSLs” and I get error:  Unable to download from LotW:  invalid request

???

73 from the desert,

Fred/NA2U

On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below
Thanks, Dave.  Is this a one-Q-at-a-time operation?

+ One click of the "Update from LoTW" button on the Main window's "Log QSOs" tab will query LoTW for every QSO in the Log Page Display, and update each QSO with the results received. This operation is relatively slow because DXKeeper queries LoTW one logged QSO at a time. Depending upon how many QSOs you will have in the Log Page Display, and how many total QSOs you've uploaded to LoTW, depressing the CTRL key while clicking the "Sync LoTW QSOs" button may be faster, as it directs LoTW to report all accepted QSOs, and then updates the logged QSOs individually based on the results of that report. 

+ Either way, I'd wait to initiate the operation before retiring for the evening.

        73,

            Dave, AA6YQ




Re: Spot Collector Azimuth Column Not Populated

w5ec
 

That did it. One checkmark was missing. Thanks
Bill W5EC


Re: Capturing Which Radio is Used for Each Logged QSO in a Multi-Radio Configuration

Steve / W1SMC
 

Thanks to Dave & Gorm for the assistance on this .....

The updates were applied and they are working very well.

Also, I have to remember to visit the dxllabwiki ..... I always seem to forget this help area ......

Steve / W1SMC 


Re: 60 Meter Real time Award Tracking

Carl - WC4H
 

Hi Dave.

Create a script with these lines for 60m WAS:
delete <ReportsFolder>60m_WAS*.txt
filter Band = '60m'
Report us_states <ReportsFolder>60m_WAS.txt

Create one with these lines for 60m DXCC.

delete <ReportsFolder>60m_DXCC*.txt
filter Band = '60m'
Report DXCC <ReportsFolder>60m_DXCC.txt

Then just run the script from DXK.  They run pretty fast.
I have mine delete the previous report but you can skip that if you wish.

73.
Carl - WC4H

 

 




Re: Apparent mode change misbehavior with Commander

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

Oh my, I'm sorry! What a thing to leave out. I'm running an IC-7610. I can try to replicate on an IC-7000 tomorrow.

+ Thanks. I can't replicate the reported behavior with either my IC-7800 or IC-7300.

+ So that I can see what's going on, please do the following:

1. On the General tab of Commander's Configuration window, check the "Log Debugging Info" box

2. Terminate Commander

3. Set your IC-7610 mode to DATA-U

4. Start Commander, and wait until its Main window reflects your IC-7610's frequency and mode

5. Using Commander's Main window, change the Mode to RTTY

6. Wait 15 seconds

7. Using Commander's Maing window, change the Mode to Data-U

8. Wait 15 seconds

9. On the General tab of Commander's Configuration window, uncheck the "Log Debugging Info" box

10. Attach the errorlog.txt file from your Commander folder to an email message, and send the message to me via

aa6yq (at) ambersoft.com

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Re: 60 Meter Real time Award Tracking

Barry Murrell ZS2EZ
 

Hi Dave (NR1DX)

Do you have the DXKeeper Scripts that Dave (AA6YQ) made available for
checking 60m Entities worked and 60m States worked? Makes keeping track of
60m totals very easy....

If you don't have them pop me a mail and I will send them your way....

73 de BARRY MURRELL ZS2EZ
KF26ta - Port Elizabeth, South Africa
EPC#0558 DMC#1690  30MDG#4081
DXCC HONOR ROLL (332/340)
website : www.zs2ez.co.za

-----Original Message-----
From: DXLab@groups.io [mailto:DXLab@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave / NR1DX
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 04:40
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] 60 Meter Real time Award Tracking

Was just curious.  I know you your position on ARRL and the band and am not
here to debate it

FT8 has put 60M on the map so to speak .You can work the "equivalent" of
DXCC on 60M FT8 5357 these days in a matter of months (I am at 125 after a
year)  . I have resorted to using an Excel spread sheet to keep track of it.
Something to to do when there are no new ones to work on the other bands, we
have a friendly local competition here on that band.
Most dxpeditions spend some time on 60M by popular demand these days (7Q7RU
was on there last night ..though they didn't work the standard
5357 and were out of "slot" for USA)

Try it you might like it if you work FT8 at all. CW and SSB are largely non
existent though

Keep up the good work

Dave
NR1DX



On 11/18/2020 9:28 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below

Curious have you personally operated on 60M FT8 on 5357?

+ I have monitored the frequency with WSJT-X once or twice, but not
made any FT8 QSOs on that band. I've made exactly one QSO on 60m - in
SSB back in 2014.

+ Bouvet Island is one of the 4 DXCC entities I have not confirmed in
a digital mode; if a station from Bouvet were QRV 60m FT8 Fox/Hound, I
would not attempt to work it; even if the spot notes said "begging!".

      73,

            Dave, AA6YQ

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Re: Apparent mode change misbehavior with Commander

Jon Gefaell
 

Oh my, I'm sorry! What a thing to leave out. I'm running an IC-7610. I can try to replicate on an IC-7000 tomorrow.


Re: 60 Meter Real time Award Tracking

Barry Murrell ZS2EZ
 

IF the Rebel DX Group do go to Bouvet, they will definitely be operating FT8 – but highly unlikely that they will work 60m!!  Simply not sufficient volume of operators there to make it worthwhile, when they can run either 40m or 80m with massive pileups!!

 

The Russian Robinson crew in Malawi on the other hand ARE operating 60m FT8 – worked them last night for my #101 on the band…. But Malawi is nowhere near as rare as Bouvet!!

The REALLY rare ones aren’t going to waste time on 60m…

 

73 de BARRY MURRELL ZS2EZ

KF26ta - Port Elizabeth, South Africa

EPC#0558 DMC#1690  30MDG#4081

DXCC HONOR ROLL (332/340)

website : www.zs2ez.co.za

 

 

From: DXLab@groups.io [mailto:DXLab@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 04:28
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] 60 Meter Real time Award Tracking

 

+ AA6YQ comments below

Curious have you personally operated on 60M FT8 on 5357?

+ I have monitored the frequency with WSJT-X once or twice, but not made any FT8 QSOs on that band. I've made exactly one QSO on 60m - in SSB back in 2014.

+ Bouvet Island is one of the 4 DXCC entities I have not confirmed in a digital mode; if a station from Bouvet were QRV 60m FT8 Fox/Hound, I would not attempt to work it; even if the spot notes said "begging!".

      73,

            Dave, AA6YQ


Re: Apparent mode change misbehavior with Commander

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below
I noticed this apparent misbehavior recently thought it would be good to write it up. I love DX Lab Suite so much, thank you Dave!

Summary:
Commander fails to set mode when selected in mode panel following mode change made from radio.

Replication/Explanation:
Change mode from DATA-U1 to RTTY (To tune amplifier)

"Data-U1" looks like a typographical error. What mode is the radio in?

   Observe that Commander mode panel updates to reflect mode change to RTTY
Attempt to set mode to Data-Uw from commander mode panel.

"Data-Uw" looks like a typographical error. What mode are you selecting in Commander's Main window?

   Observe that Commander mode panel updates to indicate mode change to USB-D1
   Mode does not change on radio.

Workaround:
    Change to any other mode from Commander mode panel, then change to USB-D1 is successful.

Note: I was unable to replicate this with other mode combinations.
+ What make and model radio is Commander controlling?

      73,

                 Dave, AA6YQ


Apparent mode change misbehavior with Commander

Jon Gefaell
 
Edited

I noticed this apparent misbehavior recently thought it would be good to write it up. I love DX Lab Suite so much, thank you Dave!

Summary:
Commander fails to set mode when selected in mode panel following mode change made from radio.

Replication/Explanation:
Change mode from DATA-U1 to RTTY (To tune amplifier)
   Observe that Commander mode panel updates to reflect mode change to RTTY
Attempt to set mode to Data-Uw from commander mode panel.
   Observe that Commander mode panel updates to indicate mode change to USB-D1
   Mode does not change on radio.

Workaround:
    Change to any other mode from Commander mode panel, then change to USB-D1 is successful.

Note: I was unable to replicate this with other mode combinations.

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