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Re: Windows 10 users: heads up!

Steve K8JQ
 

Where can I look on my Windows 10 Home desktop to determine if I have been updated to version 1803?

Steve, K8JQ

On 5/13/2018 4:53 PM, Richard Clare wrote:

When I choose : No let me choose what to do I do not get any of the three choices illustrated. Richard wb6ewm

 

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From: ART SEARLE
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:27 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] Windows 10 users: heads up!

 

Hi Dave and the group,

In the last couple of days all three computers here have been updated to Windows 10 version 1803 build 17134.48 without issue.  These were lengthy updates with multiple parts and restarts.  I did use Dave's, AA6YQ, suggestion below to stop the automatic update of drivers.

Thank you, Dave!

73, art w2nra

On 5/1/2018 20:10, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

A report from a trusted source indicates that Windows 10 version 1803 has significant stability problems. At minimum, direct Windows
to create a "restore point" and backup your log before allowing an upgrade to this version.
 
There have also been reports that Windows 10 has been replacing device drivers provided by Icom, Kenwood, and Yaesu with generic
drivers that do not perform well. This article from 2015 explains how to prevent that from happening:
 
<http://www.itprotoday.com/windows-10/stop-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10>
 
         73,
 
            Dave, AA6YQ
 
 

 

 


Re: Windows 10 users: heads up!

Ray W
 

According to microsoft (I have heard over the last 30 or so years), it is because other programs or users do not use windows in the manner that microsoft intended it to be used or in unsafe ways, so microsoft has to "fix" the mistakes others make in using the OS. Been dealing with that since MS-DOS 5 became a non-entity.

I have heard Mac users complain the same when a new OS version comes out.

Right or wrong, they have the power to do it....and do. That is why we have these groups, to figure out what new twist they do to generate revenue (or even to actually make things safer/better sometimes). Just wish documentation was like it was for MS-DOS 5 (I still have that book).


Ray
K7RFW

PS: Saw that problem on my IC-7300 several weeks ago when I saw the posts on the upgrade issue so I forced the upgrade, tested, did the fix, and life is good again.
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On Sun, 5/13/18, Don Hill AA5AU <aa5au@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [DXLab] Windows 10 users: heads up!
To: DXLab@groups.io
Date: Sunday, May 13, 2018, 5:26 PM

The Windows 10 Update
today rendered both my USB sound cards inoperable. The
solution was to reinstall them both. The on board sound card
was OK. I'm greatly disappointed that Microsoft
continues to break stuff with their updates.

Don AA5AU

Re: Windows 10 users: heads up!

Don Hill AA5AU <aa5au@...>
 

The Windows 10 Update today rendered both my USB sound cards inoperable. The solution was to reinstall them both. The on board sound card was OK. I'm greatly disappointed that Microsoft continues to break stuff with their updates.

Don AA5AU

Re: Windows 10 users: heads up!

John P
 

I sometimes have that problem with Outlook and Comcast mail on Windows-7. I suspect it's an issue with the mail server, not Outlook. 
--
John P.
WA2FZW

Re: Windows 10 users: heads up!

Gilbert Baron W0MN
 

I guess I was lucky. I just let the update go and the only thing different is that OUTLOOK keeps asking for my gmail password about 2-4 times a day. That is very strange because I just hit enter and do not give a password. The password is not wrong and email still works. I do not think that was from the update but who knows. It started shortly after the update but this has happened on W7 and W8 too and there are many comments on forums including Microsoft Forums about this problem with no answers that mean anything. I always make sure that I have an image backup before the big update and I do the update by downloading it so I know when it will happen. So far so good. Both Laptop and Desktop are fine although radio is only on the desktop.

 

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Clare
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 15:53
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] Windows 10 users: heads up!

 

When I choose : No let me choose what to do I do not get any of the three choices illustrated. Richard wb6ewm

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ART SEARLE
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:27 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] Windows 10 users: heads up!

 

Hi Dave and the group,

In the last couple of days all three computers here have been updated to Windows 10 version 1803 build 17134.48 without issue.  These were lengthy updates with multiple parts and restarts.  I did use Dave's, AA6YQ, suggestion below to stop the automatic update of drivers.

Thank you, Dave!

73, art w2nra

On 5/1/2018 20:10, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

A report from a trusted source indicates that Windows 10 version 1803 has significant stability problems. At minimum, direct Windows
to create a "restore point" and backup your log before allowing an upgrade to this version.
 
There have also been reports that Windows 10 has been replacing device drivers provided by Icom, Kenwood, and Yaesu with generic
drivers that do not perform well. This article from 2015 explains how to prevent that from happening:
 
<http://www.itprotoday.com/windows-10/stop-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10>
 
         73,
 
            Dave, AA6YQ
 
 

 

 


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Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

John P
 

I'm not all that interested in "official" awards, but it's nice to keep track for myself. 

--
John P.
WA2FZW

Re: Windows 10 users: heads up!

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

When I choose : No let me choose what to do I do not get any of the three choices illustrated.

+ The cited article was written in 2015, and evidently does not apply to all flavors of Windows 10. I suggest that you contact Microsoft Support and ask them how to prevent your device drivers from being "adjusted" by automatic updates. Please post your results here.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

In the last couple of days all three computers here have been updated to Windows 10 version 1803 build 17134.48 without issue. These were lengthy updates with multiple parts and restarts. I did use Dave's, AA6YQ, suggestion below to stop the automatic update of drivers.

Re: Windows 10 users: heads up!

Richard Clare
 

When I choose : No let me choose what to do I do not get any of the three choices illustrated. Richard wb6ewm

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ART SEARLE
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:27 AM
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] Windows 10 users: heads up!

 

Hi Dave and the group,

In the last couple of days all three computers here have been updated to Windows 10 version 1803 build 17134.48 without issue.  These were lengthy updates with multiple parts and restarts.  I did use Dave's, AA6YQ, suggestion below to stop the automatic update of drivers.

Thank you, Dave!

73, art w2nra

On 5/1/2018 20:10, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

A report from a trusted source indicates that Windows 10 version 1803 has significant stability problems. At minimum, direct Windows
to create a "restore point" and backup your log before allowing an upgrade to this version.
 
There have also been reports that Windows 10 has been replacing device drivers provided by Icom, Kenwood, and Yaesu with generic
drivers that do not perform well. This article from 2015 explains how to prevent that from happening:
 
<http://www.itprotoday.com/windows-10/stop-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10>
 
         73,
 
            Dave, AA6YQ
 
 

 

 

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

Don't know why, but when I checked that box on the laptop, it went through a re-compute cycle and all was correct afterwards.

+ I suspect that it was the Recompute operation that eliminated the discrepancy - which begs the question of why the discrepancy existed, and will more such discrepancies arise.

+ Do you really want DXKeeper to "count" QSOs confirmed via eQSL.cc towards ARRL awards? The ARRL does not accept eQSL.cc confirmations.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

Gilbert Baron W0MN
 

I wonder if it would prevent that sort of error if the workspace were also on the network storage and that you loaded the settings from the workspace on every startup. Of course that would mean the 2 computers would have to be able to use the same settings such as window sizes, number of monitors, etc. Probably not practical in most cases.

 

 

From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of John P
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 15:40
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

 

Don't know why, but when I checked that box on the laptop, it went through a re-compute cycle and all was correct afterwards. 
--
John P.
WA2FZW


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HP Laptop

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

John P
 

Don't know why, but when I checked that box on the laptop, it went through a re-compute cycle and all was correct afterwards. 
--
John P.
WA2FZW

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

Dave AA6YQ
 

# more AA6YQ comments below

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 12:59 pm, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
To which "LoTW box" are you referring?
I'll email you a picture; can't seen to add one here.

# Got your screen shot, thanks.

# The "Include LoTW QSLs in CQ & Maidenhead Grid progress" box has no influence on DXCC statistics.

# The "Include eQSL.cc QSLs in DXCC, VUCC, WAS, WAC, and Maidenhead Grid progress" box does influence DXCC statistics.

#+ As Iain N6ML pointed out, both of these checkboxes should be set consistently in your two DXKeeper instances. I also missed this as a possible cause of the discrepancy between your DXKeeper instances.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

John P
 

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 12:59 pm, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
To which "LoTW box" are you referring?
I'll email you a picture; can't seen to add one here.
 
--
John P.
WA2FZW

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

Dave AA6YQ
 

+ AA6YQ comments below

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 11:43 am, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
Might you have different DXCC award objectives defined between the two instances of DXKeeper?
That was the problem. Somehow, I didn't have the LOTW box checked!

+ To which "LoTW box" are you referring?

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

John P
 

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 11:43 am, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
Might you have different DXCC award objectives defined between the two
instances of DXKeeper?
That was the problem. Somehow, I didn't have the LOTW box checked!
 
--
John P.
WA2FZW

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

John P
 

Thanks Iain, that  might be the problem. Didn't realize that there are such settings. I'll check it out. 
--
John P.
WA2FZW

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

iain macdonnell - N6ML
 

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 11:42 AM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <@N6ML> wrote:
On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 6:50 AM, John P <j.m.price@...> wrote:
I have my DxKeeper database on my main home computer (Windows-7 machine) and
have it shared so that it can be accessed (Read/Write) from the laptop I use
to control the radio (also Windows-7). I'm NOT trying to access the DB from
both machines at the same time.

When I "Check Progress" for DXCC on the remote laptop, it only reports a few
confirmations. When I "Check Progress" for DXCC on the machine that hosts
the DB, it correctly reports 20 confirmations and 5 countries worked but not
confirmed.

When I "Check Progress" for WAS, WAC and Canada on either machine, I get the
correct data.
Might you have different DXCC award objectives defined between the two
instances of DXKeeper? I believe that those are stored in the Windows
registry, not in the database. Suggest comparing the "Awards" tab of
DXKeeper Configuration between the two, including criteria like "Max
TW power"
Scratch "Max TX power" - that's a Marathon thing ... but "Include
eQSL.cc QSLs in DXCC... progress" would make a difference....

73,

~iain / N6ML

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

iain macdonnell - N6ML
 

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 6:50 AM, John P <j.m.price@...> wrote:
I have my DxKeeper database on my main home computer (Windows-7 machine) and
have it shared so that it can be accessed (Read/Write) from the laptop I use
to control the radio (also Windows-7). I'm NOT trying to access the DB from
both machines at the same time.

When I "Check Progress" for DXCC on the remote laptop, it only reports a few
confirmations. When I "Check Progress" for DXCC on the machine that hosts
the DB, it correctly reports 20 confirmations and 5 countries worked but not
confirmed.

When I "Check Progress" for WAS, WAC and Canada on either machine, I get the
correct data.
Might you have different DXCC award objectives defined between the two
instances of DXKeeper? I believe that those are stored in the Windows
registry, not in the database. Suggest comparing the "Awards" tab of
DXKeeper Configuration between the two, including criteria like "Max
TW power"

73,

~iain / N6ML

Re: DxKeeper award progress report issue with DB on a networked computer

Dave AA6YQ
 

* AA6YQ comments below

If you terminated DXKeeper on your "home computer", started DXKeeper on your laptop, but find that DXKeeper on your laptop is not reporting accurate information from the log database on your home computer, then the network connectivity between your two computers must not be working correctly. Whether the root cause lies in Windows, a device driver, or the network hardware, I can't say.
Also as I said, the problem is only with "Check Progress" for DXCC. "Check Progress" for WAS, WAC and Canada all work fine. It would seem to me that if it was a network connectivity problem, none of them would work correctly.

* Your assumption is incorrect. Data-dependent defects are well-known phenomena, and over-the-network access provides opportunities for stale data, race conditions, and a host of other potential problems that cannot occur when accessing a local database.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

Re: Standard ADIF File - Definition

Robie
 

Dave and Jim,

Thanks for your responses.  I'll dig in.

Robie - AJ4F

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 5:57 PM Dave AA6YQ <aa6yq@...> wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below

http://www.adif.org/adif.html

+ www.adif.org is not the official ADIF site; the person who operates it does not participate in ADIF development.

+ The "official" ADIF web site is here:

http://www.adif.org.uk/

+ The specification of current version of ADIF is here:

http://www.adif.org.uk/308/ADIF_308.htm

+ The Yahoo group in which changes are proposed, critiqued, and debated is here:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/adifdev/info

+ You might find it instructive to review the first version of ADIF, which is here:

http://www.adif.org.uk/100/adif10.htm

           73,

                Dave, AA6YQ