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Re: logging question
N7DC@...
More than worth the money. HI
I have some 22,000 contacts still to put into the computer log, and thats why they havent been done yet.
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Re: DVK and VW Keyer
Mel <ve2dc@...>
Frankly I think AFSK is a bad idea for RTTY anyway... it's not that you
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can't put out a clean signal with AFSK... it's just a lot harder... any hum, carrier, distortion in the audio chain... any RF feedback... and you clutter up the band. FSK with narrow filters is dead-easy, and narrow filters are the only way to go with RTTY. Anyway, the only thing that surprises me about RTTY is why it's still so popular... the various DSP modes work so much better. Now if I could just figure out how to use the narrow filters in my "vintage" Icom in SSB mode...
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From: Joe Subich, K4IK [mailto:k4ik@...] Sent: November 1, 2003 08:51 To: dxlab@... Subject: RE: [dxlab] Re: DVK and VW Keyer The waterfall tuning is the whole point of it all. Fro RTTY,Waterfall tuning has at least two major problems and causes a lot of sloppy operation. First, the dynamic range in most of the waterfall displays causes weak signals to be "hidden" particularly when the display is set up for a very wide (ca. 4 KHz) display. Secondly, it is nearly impossible to tune RTTY (as well as MFSK and some of the other discrete tone modes) accurately with the waterfall. The panoramic displays have encouraged sloppy operating ... the use of wide IF filters to allow "viewing" a large chunk of the band at one time. This leads to constant complaints about "high power" signals when a strong signal shows up adjacent to a weak QSO causing the receiver AGC to "turn down" the RF gain. Proper system design calls for IF filters matched to the signal bandwidth or a receive design than can withstand multiple strong signals in the IF passband without AGC or receiver generated IMD (which even the best modern transceiver cannot accomplish). As a practical matter, it is impossible to prevent my neighbor (ca. 1 km away) from "pumping the AGC" in my receiver to the point that I lose a QSO with a weak DX station even if the neighbor only used 10 watts. Dual 250 Hz filters, "width" and "shift" controls in the IF make such contacts readily possible (something that neophyte operators with the "click to tune" mentality can not seem to grasp). As far as I'm concerned, the best tuning display is MMTTY's combination of "crossed bananas" (mine was set to "large") and the FFT display set for 500 Hz width. Those (high resolution) displays make operation easy ... I can tune signals with the transceiver and leave AFC limits set at 10 to 15 Hz to allow the sound card to fine tune between those steps to get the very best copy. Not to take anything away from Dave and WinWarbler ... but there are times that I wish WW used MMTTY's tuning displays and provided a similar high resolution, narrow band display for PSK. 73, ... Joe, K4IK Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=267637.4116719.5338353.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705 063108:HM/A=1754451/R=0/SIG=11tpj98m3/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mq so=60178323&partid=4116719> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=267637.4116719.5338353.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1754451/rand=250186771> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dxlab-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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Re: DVK and VW Keyer
rojomn <rojomn@...>
Gil, W0MN http://webpages.charter.net/gbaron
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44.08N 92.512835W 1050' Hierro Candente, Batir de repente
-----Original Message----- But that depends on the equipment. It is not a techinical prblem with the method. the waterfall displays causes weak signals to be "hidden"I agree but do very little RTTY so it does not matter. MFSK is hard to find much of it anyway. For PSK modes there is nothing better. CW will also be great.
Again, this is a problem with the equipment and adjustment NOT the method. I do agree it CAN lead to problems but it does not HAVE to lead to problems. gain. Proper system design calls for IF filters matched toYou have hit the ONE thing that may make a difference. OTOH I seldom see this problem here. If I must get that weak signal close up IO can always put in the filters, a click of a mouse switches to narrow filtering. As far as I'm concerned, the best tuning display is MMTTY's For RTTY great, for PSK The waterfall is the standard and will likely continue to be so. There are too many advantages.
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how to cut/paste?
larry d. clark <buddycl@...>
i downloaded version 1.4.4 and installed it on a win 2000 machine,
configured it. i would like to cut a call sign off dx summit and paste it into the call sign window of dxview using ctrl 'c' and ctrl 'v'. what am i missing. any help appreciated. larry kd5foy
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Re: {SPAMFILTER} RE: Re: DVK and VW Keyer
AMEN
Well put Joe. 73 Tony Anthony W. DePrato WA4JQS Since 1962 WA4JQS / VP8BZL / VP8SSI / 3Y0PI CQ DX Hall Of Fame # 35
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Re: DVK and VW Keyer
Joe Subich, K4IK <k4ik@...>
The waterfall tuning is the whole point of it all. Fro RTTY,Waterfall tuning has at least two major problems and causes a lot of sloppy operation. First, the dynamic range in most of the waterfall displays causes weak signals to be "hidden" particularly when the display is set up for a very wide (ca. 4 KHz) display. Secondly, it is nearly impossible to tune RTTY (as well as MFSK and some of the other discrete tone modes) accurately with the waterfall. The panoramic displays have encouraged sloppy operating ... the use of wide IF filters to allow "viewing" a large chunk of the band at one time. This leads to constant complaints about "high power" signals when a strong signal shows up adjacent to a weak QSO causing the receiver AGC to "turn down" the RF gain. Proper system design calls for IF filters matched to the signal bandwidth or a receive design than can withstand multiple strong signals in the IF passband without AGC or receiver generated IMD (which even the best modern transceiver cannot accomplish). As a practical matter, it is impossible to prevent my neighbor (ca. 1 km away) from "pumping the AGC" in my receiver to the point that I lose a QSO with a weak DX station even if the neighbor only used 10 watts. Dual 250 Hz filters, "width" and "shift" controls in the IF make such contacts readily possible (something that neophyte operators with the "click to tune" mentality can not seem to grasp). As far as I'm concerned, the best tuning display is MMTTY's combination of "crossed bananas" (mine was set to "large") and the FFT display set for 500 Hz width. Those (high resolution) displays make operation easy ... I can tune signals with the transceiver and leave AFC limits set at 10 to 15 Hz to allow the sound card to fine tune between those steps to get the very best copy. Not to take anything away from Dave and WinWarbler ... but there are times that I wish WW used MMTTY's tuning displays and provided a similar high resolution, narrow band display for PSK. 73, ... Joe, K4IK
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Re: DVK and VW Keyer
rojomn <rojomn@...>
The waterfall tuning is the whole point of it all. Fro RTTY, it may not
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matter, for PSK and all other sound card modes, it is the only way to go. Sound card is the way for the majority to get RTTY since TNCs are all rip offs IMHO. I won't buy one since you have to have a different one for each of the proprietary modes and if you are not running Pactor and only want RTTY then the sound card is just as good as if not better than and TNC. Gil, W0MN http://webpages.charter.net/gbaron 44.08N 92.512835W 1050' Hierro Candente, Batir de repente
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Re: logging question
Mel <ve2dc@...>
Now I'm half-serious here...
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If you could do something with voice recognition... we could read our old logs into DXKeeper.
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From: Dave Bernstein [mailto:aa6yq@...] Sent: November 1, 2003 01:17 To: dxlab@... Subject: [dxlab] Re: logging question The small Capture window is only useful for logging QSOs in real-time. The Main window can be used for either real-time logging or after-the- fact logging. To optimize it for the after-the-fact logging, uncheck the "Optimize for real-time QSO entry" box on the Config window's General tab. When so configured, - if you save a QSO whose end field has not been specified, DXKeeper will set the end field to the contents of the begin field - if you double-click the end field, DXKeeper will set the end field to the contents of the begin field - when you create a new QSO, the begin field will be initialized to the date/time the previously-entered QSO began; if you click in the begin field, you can adjust the time using the arrow keys, if that's quicker than keying in the actual time. I wish we'd gotten handwriting recognition to work, but that's even harder than holographic CW keys... 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In dxlab@..., "Anthony W. DePrato" <wa4jqs@m...> wrote: i was entering some old qso tonight and the small window that youenter them in does not have a date/time place. when you hit log it putstodays date not a big problem as i just go into the log window and changeit there.. just wonder if i have missed something as where or how toenter old log info by hand. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705 063108:HM/A=1524963/R=0/SIG=12o885gmo/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/au toredir?camp=556&lineid=3614674&prop=egroupweb&pos=HM> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egrou pmail/S=:HM/A=1524963/rand=240773957> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dxlab-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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Re: going...going...
g0wzm2001
It would be sad to loose the function, even though I admit I have not
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used it much. Would it be possible to put the button somewhere else or have a choice in the config - if screen real-estate is a problem? Ian ( 3b8ik )
--- In dxlab@..., "Dave Bernstein" <aa6yq@a...> wrote:
WinWarbler's history function looks like its going to be history.
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Re: WinWarbler History function -- useful?
dl8le <juergen.sturhahn@...>
I have used the function quite often. With the new broadband
decoding, however, its benefit is limited now. 73 Juergen, DL8LE
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going...going...
Dave AA6YQ
WinWarbler's history function looks like its going to be history.
Speak now or forever hold your peace... 73, Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: WinWarbler History function -- useful?
wb0wao <wb0wao@...>
I would go for the broadband decode on/off as well.
73 Dennis - WB0WAO
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anyone have a Kenwood TS-50 and IF-10D?
Dave AA6YQ
Thanks to Pete PH1PH, I have the documentation that should enable
Commander support for this transceiver. Is anyone having this combination willing to test candidate releases? 73, Dave, AA6YQ
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Re: WinWarbler History function -- useful?
Jayne Lindgren <J.Lindgren@...>
I have very occasionaly used the History box but an On/Off Broadband
Decoding feature would be more useful for me. 73 Dave de Vic,G4BYG On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:12:16 -0600 Randy Tipton <wa5ufh@...> wrote: Dave, I have never used the History box. The off/on Broadband Decoding---------------------------------------- Jayne Lindgren Email: J.Lindgren@... University of Hull
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Re: logging question
Dave AA6YQ
The small Capture window is only useful for logging QSOs in real-time.
The Main window can be used for either real-time logging or after-the- fact logging. To optimize it for the after-the-fact logging, uncheck the "Optimize for real-time QSO entry" box on the Config window's General tab. When so configured, - if you save a QSO whose end field has not been specified, DXKeeper will set the end field to the contents of the begin field - if you double-click the end field, DXKeeper will set the end field to the contents of the begin field - when you create a new QSO, the begin field will be initialized to the date/time the previously-entered QSO began; if you click in the begin field, you can adjust the time using the arrow keys, if that's quicker than keying in the actual time. I wish we'd gotten handwriting recognition to work, but that's even harder than holographic CW keys... 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In dxlab@..., "Anthony W. DePrato" <wa4jqs@m...> wrote: i was entering some old qso tonight and the small window that youenter them in does not have a date/time place. when you hit log it putstodays date not a big problem as i just go into the log window and changeit there.. just wonder if i have missed something as where or how toenter old log info by hand.
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logging question
i was entering some old qso tonight and the small window that you enter them in does not have a date/time place. when you hit log it puts todays date not a big problem as i just go into the log window and change it there.. just wonder if i have missed something as where or how to enter old log info by hand.
thanks 73 Tony wa4jqs
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Re: DXKeeper 2.9.5 is available
At 06:08 AM 11/1/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Dave,I agree outstanding.. work Dave.. cleaning up all the old files i imported from the other logging programs . then its type type type and type as i start on the paper logs 73 Tony wa4jqs Anthony W. DePrato WA4JQS South Sandwich Island Antarctic Dxpedition Group VP8BZL VP8SSI 3Y0PI V31SS ZD8JQS WA4JQS/4K1 WA4JQS/K4C WA4JQS/ZS1 CQ DX HALL OF FAME # 35
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Re: DVK and VW Keyer
it.Plus, with FSK you just lose too many functions and you can't do the hummm my HAL unit's will decode anything 875 shift down.. so i do not understand what you mean "can't do broadband decode ? i do not use waterfall to turn i use a 2 in scope and snap to tune ? i do not have to tune my 850's 950's or 870's do have to tune my johnson's hallicraters' and collins though. 73 Tony
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Re: CW Keyer
At 02:43 AM 11/1/2003 +0000, you wrote:
Functional holographic display of mechanical keys is on the list...Tony
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Re: DXKeeper 2.9.5 is available
Emmanuel F. Zambetas <sv1fze@...>
Hi Dave,
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An excellent piece of software keeps getting better and better. Thanks, Manny SV1FZE
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From: Dave Bernstein [mailto:aa6yq@...] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 1:48 AM To: dxlab@... Subject: [dxlab] DXKeeper 2.9.5 is available Compared to the most recent pubic release (2.9.2), this release - correctly determines the WPX prefix from callsigns with /MMn and /AMn suffixes where N is a digit - accepts alphanumeric characters in the Capture window's RST fields - forces characters entered into the Capture and Main windows' RST fields to upper case - ensures that the printer is properly initialized when QSL card or label printing is initiated by clicking the Preview window's Print button - provides an operation that performs a callbook lookup on every QSO visible on the Log Page Display, filling in missing information or optionally replacing existing information - sets maritime mobiles and aeronautical mobiles to an empty DXCC prefix and country code 0, updates award tracking and progress reports to include or exclude mobiles as appropriate, and adjusts the Broken filter to ignore QSOs with a missing DXCC Prefix - doesn't allow active QSO information in the Capture window to be overwritten by a double-click on a SpotCollector Database entry without giving the user the choice of first logging the Capture window QSO information, overwriting the information, or discarding the overwrite; QSO information in the Capture window is considered live if a QSO start time has been established, either by clicking the Capture window's Begin button or by entering a received signal report (if the "Set QSO start when RST rcvd" box on the Config window's General tab is checked). - updates the Configuration.htm, index.htm, and Log.htm online documentation files From the Main window's Log QSOs tab, * clicking the CBA button will query the selected Callbook database for name, QTH information, and address information and add these to the current QSO, but will not overwrite fields already containing information [pre-existing functionality] * depressing the Ctrl key while clicking the CBA button clears the current QSO's name, QTH, and address fields before updating these fields by querying the Callbook [pre-existing functionality] * depressing the Alt key while clicking the CBA button, updates every QSO in the Log Page Display by querying the selected Callbook database for name, QTH information, and address information without overwriting fields already containing information * depressing both the Alt and CTRL keys while clicking the CBA button will replace the name, QTH information, and address information in every QSO in the Log Page Display by querying the selected Callbook. Note that applying the latter two operations to large numbers of QSOs will take significant time, particularly if you haven't copied your Callbook's database from CDROM to a hard drive. 3000 QSOs took around 15 minutes with my RAC database on a hard drive. Maritime mobiles are callsigns ending in /MM or /MMn where n is a digit; Aeronautical mobiles are callsigns ending in /AM or /AMn where n is a digit. Entering one of these callsigns in Capture window or the Main window's Log Page Display will set the country code to 0 and clear the DXCC Prefix. The Maidenhead and VUCC progress reports include QSOs with maritime mobiles, but not QSOs with aeronautical mobiles; the WPX progress report includes QSOs with both maritime and aeronautical mobiles. All other progress tracking and reporting ignores QSOs with maritime and aeronautical mobiles. My thanks who tested the predecessors of this version prior to its release. This release is available via http://www.qsl.net/dxlab/download.htm or via this reflector's Files area. 73, Dave, AA6YQ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: dxlab-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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