I must say I see a large number of requests for QRZ.com
Pathfinder help and thus diversion of Dave's, AA6YQ, time
to respond to and fix these requests.
However, fixing this may be an ethical issue, not a
convenience to DXKeeper users issue.
The DXLab community possibly doesn't understand that the
QRZ errors come from Pathfinder's attempt to read a web
site intended for human consumption and extracting it's
best guess what is the desired QSL/contact/location
information. QRZ occasionally changes the format of the
data presentation for security, style, and software
updates. It is their right to do so. Microsoft changes
their offerings regularly. So why can't QRZ?
Guess what? QRZ doesn't want DXLabs or any other program
to programmatically access their Web Site. QRZ wants users
who desire automated access to their data base to use
their paid XML subscription service. Who knows, maybe QRZ
allows the user freedom to put their bad constructs on
their QRZ pages and makes some of their changes to limit
to limit programmatic access to their Web site.
QRZ offers Developer support for their XML service but
none for the Free or measured service. This is QRZ's way
of telling the user community: if you want automated QRZ
service, buy XML service. The bottom line is the QRZ
service is NOT FREE, somebody, in this case Dave, AA6YQ,
has to pay something, his labor, to make the seemingly
free service work. Dave is right, the DXLab community
should follow QRZ's lead to use the XML queries.
Quotes from QRZ's Web site:
"XML Logbook Data Service"
"About this Service"
"Our XML Logbook Data service provides a superior, high
performance back-end connection to the QRZ database. It is
widely supported by most of the top logging and contest
programs . With the XML Logbook Data service, your logging
program will automatically fetch detailed name, address,
and QSL information from our extensive collection of more
than 1.3 million callsigns."
"The QRZ XML data port provides callsign info, biography
information, and QSL image data in a raw streaming format
that connects to a variety of third party software
products. The XML interface is fully documented so that
programmers can easily adapt the interface to their
How much does a subscription cost?
A full year subscription to the XML Logbook Data service
costs just. . ."
So the ethical issue is: does Dave continue to invest his
time in a free program to gain free access to another
vendor's source of information when that provider prefers
automated access by a paid subscription?
I'd recommend that Pathfinder simply pare down the
offerings to use only QRZ's XML service. Just like the
other paid services in Pathfinder.
This would also make the preferred browser choice issue go
away, which is another topic Pathfinder brings up
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]
Sent: 14 July, 2017 16:31
Subject: RE: [dxlab] QRZ again?
>>>AA6YQ comments below
From: dxlab@... [mailto:dxlab@...]
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 9:00 AM
To: YahooGroup DXLabs
Subject: [dxlab] QRZ again?
This morning i had QSO with OM6ES, activating a FF-aerea.
On the QRZ page (vie PF) i noticed: “Alias for OK1ES”,
togheter with all info abt OK1ES.
The Capture stayed blanco, nothing filled in.
It seems a bit like the former error, when the Callsign of
the contacted station contained a slash.
Challenge for our magician?
>>>When I configure the Callbook tab of
DXKeeper's Configuration window to use "QRZ.com via
Pathfinder", type OM6ES into the Capture window, and
strike the Enter key, the Capture window is populated with
the correct name, QTH, "QSL Via", "Grid 1", continent, CQ
zone, and ITU zone. Logging the QSO shows that the correct
postal address is also present.
>>>If that's not working for you, Eddy, that
means QRZ is returning information differently for
different users, which means that Pathfinder cannot
reliably "scrape" callbook information from QRZ.com.
>>>Over the past month, dealing with the changes
to QRZ.com has delayed enhancements to Commander, DXView,
DXKeeper, and SpotCollector by weeks. Given the several
supported alternatives to "QRZ.com via Pathfinder",
perhaps the "QRZ.com via Pathfinder" option should be
removed from the Callbook tab of DXKeeper's Configuration
Posted by: "Dave AA6YQ"
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