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Photos and Information on VC Crosley Supersports


Steve Olinger
 

Hi,
    Does any on have photos of the rear stabilizer bar/kit for the VC?
    Does the51 Supersports have the rear trim panel beside the seats? Mine is not drilled
    On the original rear mat is there a gray beading that runs along the inner edge? (what photos looks like it)
Thanks


David Reina
 

First question is what is your name?  I have a Supersport rear stabilizer with brackets thats out of a car right now.  I can take some pictures and send them.  I’m not sure if I can post photographs on the chat list.  If you send me your email address I’ll send the pictures there.

I think my 51 SS still has the original mat behind the seats.  I can take a look at that for you too.  I’m not sure what you mean by a rear trim panel behind the seats.  Do you mean a vinyl like used on the trunk mat?

Regards,
Dave Reina

On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:11 AM, olinger@... wrote:

Hi,
    Does any on have photos of the rear stabilizer bar/kit for the VC?
    Does the51 Supersports have the rear trim panel beside the seats? Mine is not drilled
    On the original rear mat is there a gray beading that runs along the inner edge? (what photos looks like it)
Thanks


David Reina
 

Hi Steve,

I realized after I sent you the email about the rear stabilizer that this was your questions.

Dave

On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:11 AM, olinger@... wrote:

Hi,
    Does any on have photos of the rear stabilizer bar/kit for the VC?
    Does the51 Supersports have the rear trim panel beside the seats? Mine is not drilled
    On the original rear mat is there a gray beading that runs along the inner edge? (what photos looks like it)
Thanks


Jim Bollman
 

Yes you can post pictures. You can just attach them to the message or put them in the photo section in the restoration folder.

I ment to post on the stabilizer, I had one on a 52 SS and it made the back suspension so stiff that I was constantly fighting bolts. Would probably great on a track but I took it off for road use.


On Dec 15, 2018, at 10:06 PM, David Reina via Groups.Io <reinadesigns@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,

I realized after I sent you the email about the rear stabilizer that this was your questions.

Dave

On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:11 AM, olinger@... wrote:

Hi,
    Does any on have photos of the rear stabilizer bar/kit for the VC?
    Does the51 Supersports have the rear trim panel beside the seats? Mine is not drilled
    On the original rear mat is there a gray beading that runs along the inner edge? (what photos looks like it)
Thanks



Steve Olinger
 

Hi Dave, Thanks I'll send you a email.
Steve


Steve Olinger
 

Hi Jim,
     Thanks for the information. Sounds that the bar for normal street use its a little too much!
Steve


crosleyshortsport
 

Steve,  If you have any extra parts, I am collecting anything Crosley related for the 2019 national meet, silent auction.
Jeffrey Ackerman

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018, 9:42 AM <olinger@... wrote:
Hi Jim,
     Thanks for the information. Sounds that the bar for normal street use its a little too much!
Steve


David Reina
 

Hi Jim and Steve,

OK here are some  pictures of the Crosley stabilizer bar.  (On the breakfast table.) 

A while back I made about 4 or 5 of these.  One for my own car and the others to sell.  At the time when I was putting my 51 SS together I wanted the bar but didn’t find anything available.  Dave Edwards came to the rescue.  He lent me a NOS bar.  I copied the brackets and made a bending jig to bend the long tube on my hydraulic press.  I made them from chrome molly tubing.

Jm, I have heard others say that they though it made for a harsh suspension but I really didn’t find that to be the case.  This is the car that I drove two years in a row to Waseon from Brooklyn.  The car did have Dunlop radials.  Perhaps they worked better with the radials?.  The only place I had harsh ride conditions with that car was on Rt. 78 coming back to NY thru PA.  The highway expansion strip spacing and the SS wheelbase created a whomp, whomp, whomp frequency that went on for an hour till I got to a different highway area.

I’ll try and take some pics of it mounted on the car.  Also Steve I still will take interior pictures of the behind the seat area.

Regards,
Dave

    

On Dec 16, 2018, at 9:42 AM, olinger@... wrote:

Hi Jim,
     Thanks for the information. Sounds that the bar for normal street use its a little too much!
Steve


Jim Bollman
 

Mine was slightly different than yours. It was straight and was made from two different diameter tubes slide inside each other with a rivet at roughly the middle locking them together at the right length. Either they changed the design or mine was aftermarket or homemade. I had radials on my SS so that isn't the difference. Maybe the bend let the suspension move better up and down but still gave the lateral stiffness. 


On Dec 18, 2018, at 1:08 AM, David Reina via Groups.Io <reinadesigns@...> wrote:

Hi Jim and Steve,

OK here are some  pictures of the Crosley stabilizer bar.  (On the breakfast table.) 

A while back I made about 4 or 5 of these.  One for my own car and the others to sell.  At the time when I was putting my 51 SS together I wanted the bar but didn’t find anything available.  Dave Edwards came to the rescue.  He lent me a NOS bar.  I copied the brackets and made a bending jig to bend the long tube on my hydraulic press.  I made them from chrome molly tubing.

Jm, I have heard others say that they though it made for a harsh suspension but I really didn’t find that to be the case.  This is the car that I drove two years in a row to Waseon from Brooklyn.  The car did have Dunlop radials.  Perhaps they worked better with the radials?.  The only place I had harsh ride conditions with that car was on Rt. 78 coming back to NY thru PA.  The highway expansion strip spacing and the SS wheelbase created a whomp, whomp, whomp frequency that went on for an hour till I got to a different highway area.

I’ll try and take some pics of it mounted on the car.  Also Steve I still will take interior pictures of the behind the seat area.

Regards,
Dave

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On Dec 16, 2018, at 9:42 AM, olinger@... wrote:

Hi Jim,
     Thanks for the information. Sounds that the bar for normal street use its a little too much!
Steve



seb fontana
 

I think people are confusing the term sway bar with Panhard [or track bar]...A Panhard bar [like whats on table] locates the rear axle relative to the frame while a sway bar dampens car lean in corners and does add to suspension stiffness..


Jim Bollman
 

The one on my SS was definitely a sway bar, it mounted across the back from one sided of the differential to the frame on the opposite side.

On Dec 18, 2018, at 10:33 AM, seb fontana via Groups.Io <speedoo51@...> wrote:

I think people are confusing the term sway bar with Panhard [or track bar]...A Panhard bar [like whats on table] locates the rear axle relative to the frame while a sway bar dampens car lean in corners and does add to suspension stiffness..


Robert Connearney
 

The term "sway bar" is unfortunately in common use, for a device that connects opposite side wheels through a torsion bar, to increase roll resistance. It is more correctly referred to as an anti-roll bar, or less descriptively, a roll bar. "Sway" is defined as a side-to-side, lateral motion, and the mechanism to prevent this should logically be called an anti-sway "bar" (more accurately, "linkage", since it is most commonly a Panhard rod, or Watt's linkage).



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ROBERT L GREGG <capngrog@...>
 

Jim,

What you described is my understanding of a Panhard bar, which reduces the side-to-side movement of the rear axle.
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On Tue, 12/18/18, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Photos and Information on VC Crosley Supersports
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Date: Tuesday, December 18, 2018, 10:39 AM

The one on
my SS was definitely a sway bar, it mounted across the back
from one sided of the differential to the frame on the
opposite side.
On Dec 18, 2018, at
10:33 AM, seb fontana via Groups.Io <speedoo51=yahoo.com@groups.io>
wrote:
I think people are confusing the term
sway bar with Panhard [or track bar]...A Panhard bar [like
whats on table] locates the rear axle relative to the frame
while a sway bar dampens car lean in corners and does add to
suspension stiffness..


Steve Olinger
 

Hi Dave & others,
            Thanks for the photos and info. I will be watching for the photos of the bar installed and photos and info on the rear mat. Being the bar is made off of a NOS one Crosley called it a REAR STABILIZER KIT back in the day in their service parts bullentin of Feb 8,1952.
Thanks Everyone & Happy Holidays!