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Looking for help getting `48 wagon running for Nationals. Located in Toledo Ohio area

Todd Swangstu
 

Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
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Todd Swangstu
 

BTW just read my own post...I am willing to pay for the work to be done.  Kinda sounded like I wanted some free help the way it was worded.  LOL...no I am looking for someone with a shop or does this on the side but knowledgeable with Crosleys.

Thnks
T

On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...

Todd Swangstu
 

Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.  I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.  I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked. 

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace?  If so from where do I buy) 
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.  So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now? 

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.  I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.  How you sign up for that...!  LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...

crosleyshortsport
 

Here is a place to start, These suppliers have what you need, and can be helpful with questions you may have. Cleaning or replacing the fuel tank and lines should be the first task. Cleaning up the carb and adding a fresh battery and checking for spark, may get the engine running. I would not be too concerned about leaky gaskets or seals right now. Get it running and rolling and come have some fun again this year at the nationals. Jeffrey Ackerman, Chairman of the meet.


On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 10:15 PM Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.  I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.  I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked. 

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace?  If so from where do I buy) 
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.  So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now? 

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.  I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.  How you sign up for that...!  LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...

crosleyshortsport
 

Sorry, did not attach the photo page for suppliers.    Here it is. ,Jeffrey


On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 10:36 PM crosleyshortsport via Groups.Io <crosleyshortsport=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Here is a place to start, These suppliers have what you need, and can be helpful with questions you may have. Cleaning or replacing the fuel tank and lines should be the first task. Cleaning up the carb and adding a fresh battery and checking for spark, may get the engine running. I would not be too concerned about leaky gaskets or seals right now. Get it running and rolling and come have some fun again this year at the nationals. Jeffrey Ackerman, Chairman of the meet.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 10:15 PM Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.  I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.  I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked. 

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace?  If so from where do I buy) 
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.  So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now? 

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.  I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.  How you sign up for that...!  LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...

Jim Bollman
 

Since Jeff doesn't know how to use links, here is a link to suppliers of parts, Service, Edwards and Yankee are the big ones.

If your primary goal is to drive around the fairgrounds, you may want to mount a temporary tank under the hood that hold a half gallon of gas and just keep an eye on the level. If you mount higher than the carb you can even eliminate the fuel pump if it is bad.

Jim...

On Jun 1, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:

Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.  I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.  I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked. 

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace?  If so from where do I buy) 
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.  So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now? 

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.  I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.  How you sign up for that...!  LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...
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Todd Swangstu
 

Not a bad idea with the gas can-tank!

My main concern was the coolant leaks my guess it is those side covers.  Are they an easy re-seal or do you have to remove all the intake and xhaust manifolds to get at the one.

Thanks

On Saturday, June 1, 2019, 10:51:26 PM EDT, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:


Since Jeff doesn't know how to use links, here is a link to suppliers of parts, Service, Edwards and Yankee are the big ones.

If your primary goal is to drive around the fairgrounds, you may want to mount a temporary tank under the hood that hold a half gallon of gas and just keep an eye on the level. If you mount higher than the carb you can even eliminate the fuel pump if it is bad.

Jim...

On Jun 1, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:

Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.  I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.  I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked. 

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace?  If so from where do I buy) 
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.  So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now? 

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.  I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.  How you sign up for that...!  LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...
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Spock Arnold
 

Todd, I am sure response was low due to everyone else trying to do the same last minute prep to get to Nationals.  Personally, I will be picking up my Hotshot that I haven't seen in over a year on the way so I'll be working on it there also.  As to your questions. 
1.unless your tank leaks like a sieve, I'd recommend a clean and reseal. 
2.fuel lines should be flushed and if leaking replaced. 
3.4.50 -12s will work.  Trailer tires work, but if you are going to do a lot of driving, I would buy reg street tires.
4.it is rare to see side seals  leaking.  I'd suggest you fill the system and look for another source of the leak. If you do decide to replace them, Edward's has them.
5. I'd leave the main seals alone unless leaking badly.  
Dave 

On Jun 1, 2019 10:15 PM, "Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io" <oldvw@...> wrote:
Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.  I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.  I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked. 

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace?  If so from where do I buy) 
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.  So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now? 

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.  I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.  How you sign up for that...!  LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...

Butch
 

Hello Todd,

I've been a bit reluctant to respond, due to time constraints, but If you could get it here quickly, I'm pretty sure that we can get it running and probably stopping, in time for the National meet at Wauseon.

We are about 3 or 4 hours away from Toledo.

I have a Nephew, that's just aching, for me to get another Crosley into the shop, so he can work and learn more on them.

If you are brand new to Crosley, you might not know me, but most of the old timers, know me fairly well.

If your interested, drop me an Email.

Butch

On 6/2/2019 12:16 AM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io wrote:
Not a bad idea with the gas can-tank!

My main concern was the coolant leaks my guess it is those side covers.?? Are they an easy re-seal or do you have to remove all the intake and xhaust manifolds to get at the one.

Thanks

On Saturday, June 1, 2019, 10:51:26 PM EDT, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:


Since Jeff doesn't know how to use links, here is a link to suppliers of parts, Service, Edwards and Yankee are the big ones.

If your primary goal is to drive around the fairgrounds, you may want to mount a temporary tank under the hood that hold a half gallon of gas and just keep an eye on the level. If you mount higher than the carb you can even eliminate the fuel pump if it is bad.

Jim...

On Jun 1, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:

Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.?? I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.?? I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked.??

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace??? If so from where do I buy)??
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.?? So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now???

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.?? I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.?? How you sign up for that...!?? LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.?? It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.?? I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal.??

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out???

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...
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Andy Drake
 

I've not really had too many leaks from the water jacket covers, even from motors that have sat for decades. If you ever take them off, you'll see that crud tends to accumulate around the edges and crust over. 

But that said, everything else about the cooling system needs to probably be freshened up, including doing a flush. The water pump may have seized and the hose going from the block to the pump dry rotted (doesn't help they also bake from their location). The whole process to overhaul the cooling system is only a couple hours once you have the parts. Rebuilding the pump isn't that much longer (or just get a rebuilt one) for the peace of mind.

In my case, I went through my Roundside with an eye towards getting everything freed up and belts / hoses redone, only to find it leaked oil from like 3 different places once I got it going after sitting for so long (15+ years). You probably know this, but heat and circulation will loosen everything up, so it's hard to predict just exactly where leaks will happen. When I did an oil change, it was basically black goo that I let drain overnight, so I did another change about 250 miles later and it looked way better.

The good news about all this is, Crosleys are easy to work on and it's amazing what you can get done in only a short time. The vendors can assemble you a kit and will have more insight than what's spelled out even in the manual. 

Good luck and see you at the Nationals!

David Reina
 

Hi Todd,
Yes to everything others have already written.   Here are a couple more items that occur to me. 
1) order a workshop manual ASAP from one of the venders. 
2) when cleaning the carburetor you must first unscrew and removed the long emulsion tube from the top of the Tillottson carburetor.   This thin brass tube is a couple of inches long and goes diagonally through the carb and will get bent and ruined if it’s not removed before the top comes off the carb.  (You may have a Carter carb in which case the above warning doesn’t apply)
3) grease the kingpins, tie rod ends, and drag link that comes off the steering box. Grease the torque tube joint and the bearing in the middle of the torque tube.   Grease the outer bearings on the back axle. Not too much- only two shots per side. I think the water pump has a grease fitting. That should really take water pump grease.  
4)clean the ignition points. Cut some 1/4” wide strips from a white index card paper. Soak a strip with acetone or gas (not nail polish remover acetone. It has too much other junk in it. ) and pull the wet paper through the closed points. Do it a couple of times. This will usually clean the points enough that they will work ok.   Coat the points can with a very light coat of grease. 
5)the condenser is on the outside of the Crosley distributed and should be held there with a very short screw. Sometimes that short screw has been replaced by a longer one which goes too far into the distributed body and which then hangs up the centrifugal weights causing mysterious problems. 
6)transmission takes 90 to 140 weight gear oil filled to the bottom of the side filler plug threads. Some people like the heavier gear oil as it can help in shifting the non synchronized transmission. The rear axle takes 90 weight gear oil to to the bottom of the filler plug threads. 
7) check the brake fluid. Just kidding!!!  You should mechanical brakes. 
8) the water pump will probably leak when running. There may be a packing nut on the shaft end of the pump which can be tightened. 
Regards,
Dave


On Jun 2, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Andy Drake <drakeap@...> wrote:

I've not really had too many leaks from the water jacket covers, even from motors that have sat for decades. If you ever take them off, you'll see that crud tends to accumulate around the edges and crust over. 

But that said, everything else about the cooling system needs to probably be freshened up, including doing a flush. The water pump may have seized and the hose going from the block to the pump dry rotted (doesn't help they also bake from their location). The whole process to overhaul the cooling system is only a couple hours once you have the parts. Rebuilding the pump isn't that much longer (or just get a rebuilt one) for the peace of mind.

In my case, I went through my Roundside with an eye towards getting everything freed up and belts / hoses redone, only to find it leaked oil from like 3 different places once I got it going after sitting for so long (15+ years). You probably know this, but heat and circulation will loosen everything up, so it's hard to predict just exactly where leaks will happen. When I did an oil change, it was basically black goo that I let drain overnight, so I did another change about 250 miles later and it looked way better.

The good news about all this is, Crosleys are easy to work on and it's amazing what you can get done in only a short time. The vendors can assemble you a kit and will have more insight than what's spelled out even in the manual. 

Good luck and see you at the Nationals!

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Only thing i would add before you attempt to start the engine is to prime the oil system.  Give Service Motors a call and i can walk you through the easy process.  866-449-0029.


On Jun 1, 2019, at 7:39 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

Sorry, did not attach the photo page for suppliers.    Here it is. ,Jeffrey

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 10:36 PM crosleyshortsport via Groups.Io <crosleyshortsport=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Here is a place to start, These suppliers have what you need, and can be helpful with questions you may have. Cleaning or replacing the fuel tank and lines should be the first task. Cleaning up the carb and adding a fresh battery and checking for spark, may get the engine running. I would not be too concerned about leaky gaskets or seals right now. Get it running and rolling and come have some fun again this year at the nationals. Jeffrey Ackerman, Chairman of the meet.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 10:15 PM Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.  I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.  I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked. 

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace?  If so from where do I buy) 
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.  So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now? 

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.  I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.  How you sign up for that...!  LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
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Dennis Terdy
 

Todd,

A lot of Crosley wisdom shared to help you. One piece of advice I got from my brother who had 190+ old Porsches was: change the oil...not once but very frequently. Start it, run it a bit, change the oil. Start it run it a bit more change the oil.  I had a "barnfind" 2nd owner Crosley stored ??? years. Changed the oil maybe 5+ times first summer (maybe a waste of a few $) but 6 years later...runs clean and "0" engine problems for less than $60.

Dennis

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:53 PM Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
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Dennis Terdy

Andy Drake
 

I second Dennis's thoughts. The crankcases on these motors are often full of carbon grit and changing the oil often until you know what you have is a great idea.

Dale also has it going -- there is a priming process to get oil to all critical points as things can get really really dry after sitting. Clean the pump screen and prime the system so the oil pressure is at least measurable at idle (sometimes it isn't).

Two thumbs up!

Todd Swangstu
 

Hey Guys!  WOW I just got home from a VW show today to see all these wonderful messages!  Thanks a bunch!  I have been a member on the list here for the past year and always reading...I too was surprised I got no response from my initial post, everyone on here is ALWAYS so helpful!  But musta just been a fluke...thanks for all the helpful hints and offers.  I am gonna sit down tonight after a late dinner and read over em all.

I have a couple days free this week I am gonna get out to the crosley (stored at buddies) and see if I can at least get her to fire-start do some preliminary investigating.  I do have the two books manuals available online-eBay as well as new correct 6V battery read to go.

..will update!
Thanks!
T

My engine....

crosleyshortsport
 

Todd, Remember that unlike the VW, the Crosley is positive ground.  


On Sun, Jun 2, 2019, 8:00 PM Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey Guys!  WOW I just got home from a VW show today to see all these wonderful messages!  Thanks a bunch!  I have been a member on the list here for the past year and always reading...I too was surprised I got no response from my initial post, everyone on here is ALWAYS so helpful!  But musta just been a fluke...thanks for all the helpful hints and offers.  I am gonna sit down tonight after a late dinner and read over em all.

I have a couple days free this week I am gonna get out to the crosley (stored at buddies) and see if I can at least get her to fire-start do some preliminary investigating.  I do have the two books manuals available online-eBay as well as new correct 6V battery read to go.

..will update!
Thanks!
T

My engine....

Todd Swangstu
 

OH it is!  Thanks for the info on that it had not even crossed my mind to check for that!

See these are the little things I need to know...simple Crosley 101 things that I could probably soak up learn in one or two afternoons with a long time collector, expert.  Each car, model and make has so many simple little facts and tricks you need to know.

T

On Monday, June 3, 2019, 7:14:34 AM EDT, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:


Todd, Remember that unlike the VW, the Crosley is positive ground.  

On Sun, Jun 2, 2019, 8:00 PM Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey Guys!  WOW I just got home from a VW show today to see all these wonderful messages!  Thanks a bunch!  I have been a member on the list here for the past year and always reading...I too was surprised I got no response from my initial post, everyone on here is ALWAYS so helpful!  But musta just been a fluke...thanks for all the helpful hints and offers.  I am gonna sit down tonight after a late dinner and read over em all.

I have a couple days free this week I am gonna get out to the crosley (stored at buddies) and see if I can at least get her to fire-start do some preliminary investigating.  I do have the two books manuals available online-eBay as well as new correct 6V battery read to go.

..will update!
Thanks!
T

My engine....

Todd Swangstu
 

Thanks Dave, going to head out there a bit today.

1- going to check for leak location as you mentioned
2-tires...all I seem to find is trailer tires.  Is there a place-link to actual road-driving tires in this size for Crosleys?  My tires are old and beat down but I think I could drive on em around the fairgrounds if I really needed too for now.


On Sunday, June 2, 2019, 6:37:23 AM EDT, Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj@...> wrote:


Todd, I am sure response was low due to everyone else trying to do the same last minute prep to get to Nationals.  Personally, I will be picking up my Hotshot that I haven't seen in over a year on the way so I'll be working on it there also.  As to your questions. 
1.unless your tank leaks like a sieve, I'd recommend a clean and reseal. 
2.fuel lines should be flushed and if leaking replaced. 
3.4.50 -12s will work.  Trailer tires work, but if you are going to do a lot of driving, I would buy reg street tires.
4.it is rare to see side seals  leaking.  I'd suggest you fill the system and look for another source of the leak. If you do decide to replace them, Edward's has them.
5. I'd leave the main seals alone unless leaking badly.  
Dave 
On Jun 1, 2019 10:15 PM, "Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io" <oldvw@...> wrote:
Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.  I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.  I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked. 

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace?  If so from where do I buy) 
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.  So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now? 

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.  I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.  How you sign up for that...!  LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.  It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.  I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal. 

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out? 

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...

Todd Swangstu
 

Hi Butch, what is your email or phone #  you can PMail me at oldvw@... if you like.  Phone is 419 705 3366.  I didn't see yours on this message...

Thanks!
T

On Sunday, June 2, 2019, 9:01:29 AM EDT, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:


Hello Todd,

I've been a bit reluctant to respond, due to time constraints, but If you could get it here quickly, I'm pretty sure that we can get it running and probably stopping, in time for the National meet at Wauseon.

We are about 3 or 4 hours away from Toledo.

I have a Nephew, that's just aching, for me to get another Crosley into the shop, so he can work and learn more on them.

If you are brand new to Crosley, you might not know me, but most of the old timers, know me fairly well.

If your interested, drop me an Email.

Butch

On 6/2/2019 12:16 AM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io wrote:
Not a bad idea with the gas can-tank!

My main concern was the coolant leaks my guess it is those side covers.?? Are they an easy re-seal or do you have to remove all the intake and xhaust manifolds to get at the one.

Thanks

On Saturday, June 1, 2019, 10:51:26 PM EDT, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:


Since Jeff doesn't know how to use links, here is a link to suppliers of parts, Service, Edwards and Yankee are the big ones.

If your primary goal is to drive around the fairgrounds, you may want to mount a temporary tank under the hood that hold a half gallon of gas and just keep an eye on the level. If you mount higher than the carb you can even eliminate the fuel pump if it is bad.

Jim...

On Jun 1, 2019, at 10:15 PM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:

Well since I am have got ZERO response I guess I am on my own with trying to get this running by Nationals.?? I have been going there for the past decade, usually in my old `66 VW pick up truck and this would be my first year in an actual Crosley if I can get it running.

So I will try to go this route instead.?? I used to run a resto shop so the work is not a problem, just the time and knowledge on what to concentrate on to get her going for the show.

So the car ran and drove about a decade ago then parked.??

-So I would plan on pulling the gas tank, cleaning and reseal (are these usually savable or should I replace??? If so from where do I buy)??
-new fuel lines and probably rebuild the carb if need be.
-It needs tires, I am guessing 4.50-12s what you use trailer tires?
-It was holding water when I got it but after sitting the past year I know see coolant around the edge lip of crankcase and the radiator empty.?? So I am guessing those two side covers have lost seal and leaked...someone-place sell the gaskets sets for these?
-should I fool with the main seals on trans and engine or leave as if for now???

My main priority is just getting this up and running driving to buzz around the fairgrounds at Nationals....nothing more.?? I recall one year some guys helping fix up someones car as a fund thing.?? How you sign up for that...!?? LOL

Thanks
Todd
Toledo



On Monday, May 27, 2019, 1:53:35 PM EDT, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:


Hi Guys, I picked up my first Crosley last summer after nationals.?? It is a `48 wagon, ran 10 years ago but was parked in a garage and has been sitting.?? I am sure it is going to need gas tank restored, carb, fuel lines, tires the usual gone thru. Not sure I am going to have the time to do it and have it running before Nationals which was my goal.??

Does anybody know of a member or collector in the Toledo/Wauseon area that does work on the side and could maybe help me out???

Thanks
Todd
419 705 3366
oldvw@...
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Todd Swangstu
 

Good info Dave THANKS!

On Sunday, June 2, 2019, 11:31:50 AM EDT, David Reina via Groups.Io <reinadesigns@...> wrote:


Hi Todd,
Yes to everything others have already written.   Here are a couple more items that occur to me. 
1) order a workshop manual ASAP from one of the venders. 
2) when cleaning the carburetor you must first unscrew and removed the long emulsion tube from the top of the Tillottson carburetor.   This thin brass tube is a couple of inches long and goes diagonally through the carb and will get bent and ruined if it’s not removed before the top comes off the carb.  (You may have a Carter carb in which case the above warning doesn’t apply)
3) grease the kingpins, tie rod ends, and drag link that comes off the steering box. Grease the torque tube joint and the bearing in the middle of the torque tube.   Grease the outer bearings on the back axle. Not too much- only two shots per side. I think the water pump has a grease fitting. That should really take water pump grease.  
4)clean the ignition points. Cut some 1/4” wide strips from a white index card paper. Soak a strip with acetone or gas (not nail polish remover acetone. It has too much other junk in it. ) and pull the wet paper through the closed points. Do it a couple of times. This will usually clean the points enough that they will work ok.   Coat the points can with a very light coat of grease. 
5)the condenser is on the outside of the Crosley distributed and should be held there with a very short screw. Sometimes that short screw has been replaced by a longer one which goes too far into the distributed body and which then hangs up the centrifugal weights causing mysterious problems. 
6)transmission takes 90 to 140 weight gear oil filled to the bottom of the side filler plug threads. Some people like the heavier gear oil as it can help in shifting the non synchronized transmission. The rear axle takes 90 weight gear oil to to the bottom of the filler plug threads. 
7) check the brake fluid. Just kidding!!!  You should mechanical brakes. 
8) the water pump will probably leak when running. There may be a packing nut on the shaft end of the pump which can be tightened. 
Regards,
Dave


On Jun 2, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Andy Drake <drakeap@...> wrote:

I've not really had too many leaks from the water jacket covers, even from motors that have sat for decades. If you ever take them off, you'll see that crud tends to accumulate around the edges and crust over. 

But that said, everything else about the cooling system needs to probably be freshened up, including doing a flush. The water pump may have seized and the hose going from the block to the pump dry rotted (doesn't help they also bake from their location). The whole process to overhaul the cooling system is only a couple hours once you have the parts. Rebuilding the pump isn't that much longer (or just get a rebuilt one) for the peace of mind.

In my case, I went through my Roundside with an eye towards getting everything freed up and belts / hoses redone, only to find it leaked oil from like 3 different places once I got it going after sitting for so long (15+ years). You probably know this, but heat and circulation will loosen everything up, so it's hard to predict just exactly where leaks will happen. When I did an oil change, it was basically black goo that I let drain overnight, so I did another change about 250 miles later and it looked way better.

The good news about all this is, Crosleys are easy to work on and it's amazing what you can get done in only a short time. The vendors can assemble you a kit and will have more insight than what's spelled out even in the manual. 

Good luck and see you at the Nationals!