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Re: Looking for help getting `48 wagon running for Nationals. Located in Toledo Ohio area

Todd Swangstu
 

AWESOME!  Yes I remember that last year at the Nationals, I thought that was so cool and kinda why I posted my question on here.  Hoping someone might chime in about that.  I think he is the nice fella I spoke with at length when I first got my car.  But I had not the chance to work on it til this spring.

Also I would like to officially join the club this year (now I finally have a Crosley) I can do that at the show or do I have to send that in?  I have been coming to the show for about a decade now but always just a spectator.

Been reading through my Service manual and Restoration books tonight too.

T

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:11:24 PM EDT, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:


Another possibility is do what you can trying not to make anything worse and contact Ted at Yankee. He opens a Crosley garage at the Nationals usually on the Saturday or Sunday before the Nationals and runs it off an on through the week, fixing members Crosleys. Call/eMail him and check if he is planning on doing that again this year and see if you can get on the list to finish what you can get fixed. Getting in line early helps. He has a group of Crosley mechanics that help him during the week.

On Jun 4, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:

So I stopped out at the 48 today just to get an idea if where I am at with it.  As mentioned I have never touched the car before, bought it and she went in winter storage.  So here is what I found out and some questions.

-It is a cast iron block, installed the new 6V battery.  Headlights work, dimmer works, dash ammeter works, horn works.
-Has an electric fuel pump mounted where the original went.  There is power to the f-p but the pump itself is DEAD.
- power to the coil and to the dizzy but constant power at ground side of the dizzy..., points open and close fine I am guessing the condenser is probably bad.
-Starter turns over super strong and powerful.
-90% sure the coolant leak was from the hose leading from top of the radiator to the block.  It has a heater spliced in and seemed to be leaking there and down around block.  Went to fill radiator and it was only low to that point the block was still full of coolant which made me quite happy.

So, I decided to yank the carb and dizzy and take em home with me clean em up do points and rebuild the carb.  It is a Tilitson.  So here are my first newbie questions for ya'll
-What is best way to remove the carb?  the outer bolt was a breeze the inner one was near impossible.  I am guessing you need to either remove the entire exhaust and intake manifold to gain access to that nut or perhaps the valve cover and grind down a 7/16 to fit in the tight spot....Tips, Tricks?
-Distributor, I removed the mounting bolt and the dizzy was nice and free. It will raise up about 2-3 inches then catches on something inside the block.  I did not want to force it so figured I would ask here FIRST.  Is the dizzy removable from the top or do you have to get at it from below?  Just thought I would yank it for easier clean up-tune up install.  Again any tips etc.
-Fuel pump, should I go back to the old manual one or find an electric again?

Was pretty happy and findings today. 
Thanks for help
Todd

Re: Looking for help getting `48 wagon running for Nationals. Located in Toledo Ohio area

Jim Bollman
 

You could join at the meet but you can do it online now if you like. Then you will be all set when you get there.

If you register for the meert before June 20th you can save $5, unfortunately we are not setup to do that electronically but here is the form to print out and mail in.

Jim... 

On Jun 5, 2019, at 1:14 AM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:

AWESOME!  Yes I remember that last year at the Nationals, I thought that was so cool and kinda why I posted my question on here.  Hoping someone might chime in about that.  I think he is the nice fella I spoke with at length when I first got my car.  But I had not the chance to work on it til this spring.

Also I would like to officially join the club this year (now I finally have a Crosley) I can do that at the show or do I have to send that in?  I have been coming to the show for about a decade now but always just a spectator.

Been reading through my Service manual and Restoration books tonight too.

T

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 10:11:24 PM EDT, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:


Another possibility is do what you can trying not to make anything worse and contact Ted at Yankee. He opens a Crosley garage at the Nationals usually on the Saturday or Sunday before the Nationals and runs it off an on through the week, fixing members Crosleys. Call/eMail him and check if he is planning on doing that again this year and see if you can get on the list to finish what you can get fixed. Getting in line early helps. He has a group of Crosley mechanics that help him during the week.

On Jun 4, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:

So I stopped out at the 48 today just to get an idea if where I am at with it.  As mentioned I have never touched the car before, bought it and she went in winter storage.  So here is what I found out and some questions.

-It is a cast iron block, installed the new 6V battery.  Headlights work, dimmer works, dash ammeter works, horn works.
-Has an electric fuel pump mounted where the original went.  There is power to the f-p but the pump itself is DEAD.
- power to the coil and to the dizzy but constant power at ground side of the dizzy..., points open and close fine I am guessing the condenser is probably bad.
-Starter turns over super strong and powerful.
-90% sure the coolant leak was from the hose leading from top of the radiator to the block.  It has a heater spliced in and seemed to be leaking there and down around block.  Went to fill radiator and it was only low to that point the block was still full of coolant which made me quite happy.

So, I decided to yank the carb and dizzy and take em home with me clean em up do points and rebuild the carb.  It is a Tilitson.  So here are my first newbie questions for ya'll
-What is best way to remove the carb?  the outer bolt was a breeze the inner one was near impossible.  I am guessing you need to either remove the entire exhaust and intake manifold to gain access to that nut or perhaps the valve cover and grind down a 7/16 to fit in the tight spot....Tips, Tricks?
-Distributor, I removed the mounting bolt and the dizzy was nice and free. It will raise up about 2-3 inches then catches on something inside the block.  I did not want to force it so figured I would ask here FIRST.  Is the dizzy removable from the top or do you have to get at it from below?  Just thought I would yank it for easier clean up-tune up install.  Again any tips etc.
-Fuel pump, should I go back to the old manual one or find an electric again?

Was pretty happy and findings today. 
Thanks for help
Todd


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Crosley-Gang] Looking for help getting `48 wagon running for Nationals. Located in Toledo Ohio area

Mark Schoenlein
 

Hi Todd-

I am located in Perrysburg. My connection to Crosleys is Hmod race cars. I have a couple of Crosley powered cars (Jabro & Miller). My friend Denny rebuilt both motors and is a very good resource if you have any questions about them.

Hope to see you out at Wauseon.

Mark Schoenlein

 

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Great guys!  Thanks for the info...I was dead on right with my assumptions what to-not to do.

 

-Yes I have both manuals bought from fellow on eBay.  One is a restoration guide and other looks to be a copy of factory workshop manual.

 

-I am an ASE Certified Mechanic, ran a restoration shop about 20 years.  My main forte was German cars.  Was burned out, sold the shop and most everything about 5 years ago but now getting back into doing some stuff for MYSELF.  So I have the skills but as you know with every new model, make you venture into there is tricks, tips, dos and don'ts you MUST learn.  I have ZERO of that knowledge on Crosleys but will learn it all in a very short time.

 

That is what is so great about the internet and these type forums AND having a great club base for the model and make.  The VW groups I am in are very friendly and THAT is what I also liked bout the Crosley group too!  The atmosphere and camaraderie at all the National meets I attended was wonderful.  Very nice, super helpful folks...and the cars are awesome too!

 

Ok so going to be venturing forward here now that I have a general idea of things.  I am going to order carb kit, tune up parts, and try and maybe some tires on the way asap.  I will keep updating as I go along.  I have a couple days free here but then back to work I still need to get a hold of Butch too...see what he thinks. 

 

Oh and on the parts, I recall two major vendors I think one was Yankee and the other...?  One was run by one fellow and I spoke with him on the phone..REAL nice guy seemed to have most everything.  Can't recall his name and business....was THAT Yankee and the other Service maybe?

 

Thanks

T

 

Thanks! 

 

 

 

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 7:27:12 PM EDT, Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988@...> wrote:

 

 

Todd,

On the carb, grind a wrench down AND remove the cam/valve cover.

On the distributor, you must FIRST remove the oil pan and take the gear off of the distributor, before it can be removed from the crankcase. The distributor drive gear will NOT pass thru the crankcase hole.

Personally, I would not disturb the oil pan yet. Most likely you have rope seals, and they are a BEAR to install, in the car, and have them not leak.

If you take the carb off, modified screwdrivers are required, to disassemble it without damage to the jets and carb body.

Have you gotten your service manual yet. If not, the tow projects that you are attempting, are leading you into some dangerous territory.

Butch

On 6/4/2019 6:12 PM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io wrote:

So I stopped out at the 48 today just to get an idea if where I am at with it.?? As mentioned I have never touched the car before, bought it and she went in winter storage.?? So here is what I found out and some questions.

 

-It is a cast iron block, installed the new 6V battery.?? Headlights work, dimmer works, dash ammeter works, horn works.

-Has an electric fuel pump mounted where the original went.?? There is power to the f-p but the pump itself is DEAD.

- power to the coil and to the dizzy but constant power at ground side of the dizzy..., points open and close fine I am guessing the condenser is probably bad.

-Starter turns over super strong and powerful.

-90% sure the coolant leak was from the hose leading from top of the radiator to the block.?? It has a heater spliced in and seemed to be leaking there and down around block.?? Went to fill radiator and it was only low to that point the block was still full of coolant which made me quite happy.

 

So, I decided to yank the carb and dizzy and take em home with me clean em up do points and rebuild the carb.?? It is a Tilitson.?? So here are my first newbie questions for ya'll

-What is best way to remove the carb??? the outer bolt was a breeze the inner one was near impossible.?? I am guessing you need to either remove the entire exhaust and intake manifold to gain access to that nut or perhaps the valve cover and grind down a 7/16 to fit in the tight spot....Tips, Tricks?

-Distributor, I removed the mounting bolt and the dizzy was nice and free. It will raise up about 2-3 inches then catches on something inside the block.?? I did not want to force it so figured I would ask here FIRST.?? Is the dizzy removable from the top or do you have to get at it from below??? Just thought I would yank it for easier clean up-tune up install.?? Again any tips etc.

-Fuel pump, should I go back to the old manual one or find an electric again?

 

Was pretty happy and findings today.??

Thanks for help

Todd

 

 

 

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Re: A 4WD Crofton Bug

jjp1@...
 

interested in crofton haflinger brochures you have how can i contact you to buy some from you ? I own the crofton haflinger that was on this site that steve had a pic of, and i would really like to have an original brochure to go with my 4 wheel drive bug, thanks

Re: A 4WD Crofton Bug

James Dlapa
 

Email me directly,

On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 6:17 AM <jjp1@...> wrote:
interested in crofton haflinger brochures you have how can i contact you to buy some from you ? I own the crofton haflinger that was on this site that steve had a pic of, and i would really like to have an original brochure to go with my 4 wheel drive bug, thanks

Wheels needed

dalef62
 

I am looking for 2 post war wheels.  What I need is for the outer rim to be in good shape as I will be putting them on FOR centers.  So if you have two wheels that the centers are bad but the outer areas are good I would be interested in them.  Could pick them up in Wauseon at the national meet.  Send me a message, let me know.
Dale

Re: Wheels needed

Jared Cohen
 

Hi Dale. I have a bunch of wheels so I can part with 2. Send me an email directly. Jmcfred2@...

Jared

Re: Wheels needed

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Yes i should have some.  There $50 each


On Jun 5, 2019, at 6:01 PM, dalef62 <kimndale97@...> wrote:

I am looking for 2 post war wheels.  What I need is for the outer rim to be in good shape as I will be putting them on FOR centers.  So if you have two wheels that the centers are bad but the outer areas are good I would be interested in them.  Could pick them up in Wauseon at the national meet.  Send me a message, let me know.
Dale

Re: ORDERING SOME PARTS HELP Looking for help getting `48 wagon running for Nationals. Located in Toledo Ohio area

Todd Swangstu
 

So I am placing an order today for parts and was just curious on a couple things, I see there is variances in certain parts but no distinguishing between the engine they go on.  I am assuming there is different variations of the CIBA engine.

-fan belt large and small
-water pump to engine block 45 and 90 degree angle
-crank main seal rope style and round solid rubber seal

Is there any way to distinguish which of these parts I should order?   I did notice my engine does NOT have the oil fill-breather on driver side of the block if that helps.  Also here is a couple pics showing casting/serial numbers on my engine.

Thanks
T


Re: ORDERING SOME PARTS HELP Looking for help getting `48 wagon running for Nationals. Located in Toledo Ohio area

crosleyshortsport
 

Any one of our fine suppliers can help get you the correct parts for your situation, talk directly with them when ordering.


On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 9:22 PM Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
So I am placing an order today for parts and was just curious on a couple things, I see there is variances in certain parts but no distinguishing between the engine they go on.  I am assuming there is different variations of the CIBA engine.

-fan belt large and small
-water pump to engine block 45 and 90 degree angle
-crank main seal rope style and round solid rubber seal

Is there any way to distinguish which of these parts I should order?   I did notice my engine does NOT have the oil fill-breather on driver side of the block if that helps.  Also here is a couple pics showing casting/serial numbers on my engine.

Thanks
T


Re: ORDERING SOME PARTS HELP Looking for help getting `48 wagon running for Nationals. Located in Toledo Ohio area

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Give me a call this weekend and i will walk you through it. 866-449-0029 dale


On Jun 6, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:

So I am placing an order today for parts and was just curious on a couple things, I see there is variances in certain parts but no distinguishing between the engine they go on.  I am assuming there is different variations of the CIBA engine.

-fan belt large and small
-water pump to engine block 45 and 90 degree angle
-crank main seal rope style and round solid rubber seal

Is there any way to distinguish which of these parts I should order?   I did notice my engine does NOT have the oil fill-breather on driver side of the block if that helps.  Also here is a couple pics showing casting/serial numbers on my engine.

Thanks
T


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Re: ORDERING SOME PARTS HELP Looking for help getting `48 wagon running for Nationals. Located in Toledo Ohio area

Todd Swangstu
 

I usually work weekends, hard for me to call.  I can try see if you are around today.  I am waiting to place good sized order now but just need to figure out which of those 3 parts I need to choose for my particular engine (without tearing it down)

Thanks
T

On Thursday, June 6, 2019, 10:30:30 PM EDT, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:


Give me a call this weekend and i will walk you through it. 866-449-0029 dale


On Jun 6, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Todd Swangstu via Groups.Io <oldvw@...> wrote:

So I am placing an order today for parts and was just curious on a couple things, I see there is variances in certain parts but no distinguishing between the engine they go on.  I am assuming there is different variations of the CIBA engine.

-fan belt large and small
-water pump to engine block 45 and 90 degree angle
-crank main seal rope style and round solid rubber seal

Is there any way to distinguish which of these parts I should order?   I did notice my engine does NOT have the oil fill-breather on driver side of the block if that helps.  Also here is a couple pics showing casting/serial numbers on my engine.

Thanks
T


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Prewar era

Technical Design
 

Hello all,

I am working on my Crosley Roadster, which I am fabricating due to lack of sources for parts. I was wondering if anybody has dimensional information for all profiles of a pre-war era automobile? I'm actually looking for detail for a pre-war era pick up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Ken

Re: Prewar era

James Dlapa
 

Where are you located? 

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello all,

I am working on my Crosley Roadster, which I am fabricating due to lack of sources for parts. I was wondering if anybody has dimensional information for all profiles of a pre-war era automobile? I'm actually looking for detail for a pre-war era pick up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Ken

Re: Prewar era

crosleyshortsport
 

Check with Ted at Yankee Crosley Parts.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 1:46 PM James Dlapa <crosley1980@...> wrote:
Where are you located? 

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello all,

I am working on my Crosley Roadster, which I am fabricating due to lack of sources for parts. I was wondering if anybody has dimensional information for all profiles of a pre-war era automobile? I'm actually looking for detail for a pre-war era pick up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Ken

Re: Prewar era

Technical Design
 

I am just outside of Fort Worth Texas. I am more interested in the tub in bed dimensions, panel profile, e t c.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:46 PM, James Dlapa
<crosley1980@...> wrote:
Where are you located? 

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello all,

I am working on my Crosley Roadster, which I am fabricating due to lack of sources for parts. I was wondering if anybody has dimensional information for all profiles of a pre-war era automobile? I'm actually looking for detail for a pre-war era pick up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Ken


Re: Prewar era

Technical Design
 


Will do. Thank you for the lead.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:50 PM, crosleyshortsport
<crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
Check with Ted at Yankee Crosley Parts.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 1:46 PM James Dlapa <crosley1980@...> wrote:
Where are you located? 

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello all,

I am working on my Crosley Roadster, which I am fabricating due to lack of sources for parts. I was wondering if anybody has dimensional information for all profiles of a pre-war era automobile? I'm actually looking for detail for a pre-war era pick up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Ken

Re: Prewar era

James Dlapa
 

Ken I have a complete truck bed that has some rust. I can take pictures and measurements of it that will help. It is missing the panel that goes behind the seats ( front of bed) but otherwise looks complete

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:51 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Will do. Thank you for the lead.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:50 PM, crosleyshortsport
Check with Ted at Yankee Crosley Parts.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 1:46 PM James Dlapa <crosley1980@...> wrote:
Where are you located? 

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello all,

I am working on my Crosley Roadster, which I am fabricating due to lack of sources for parts. I was wondering if anybody has dimensional information for all profiles of a pre-war era automobile? I'm actually looking for detail for a pre-war era pick up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Ken

Re: Prewar era

Technical Design
 

Thank you James. If you could take pictures with a ruler along the side I can figure out the dimensions from there. I also want the width and profile of looking from the top down. Any detail would be appreciated and extremely helpful.

I would love a truck like that but I don't want to use something that could be restored for what I'm creating. I just need basic Dimensions because my Roadster is based on Crosley Axel's an overall profile.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:53 PM, James Dlapa
<crosley1980@...> wrote:
Ken I have a complete truck bed that has some rust. I can take pictures and measurements of it that will help. It is missing the panel that goes behind the seats ( front of bed) but otherwise looks complete

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:51 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Will do. Thank you for the lead.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:50 PM, crosleyshortsport
Check with Ted at Yankee Crosley Parts.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 1:46 PM James Dlapa <crosley1980@...> wrote:
Where are you located? 

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello all,

I am working on my Crosley Roadster, which I am fabricating due to lack of sources for parts. I was wondering if anybody has dimensional information for all profiles of a pre-war era automobile? I'm actually looking for detail for a pre-war era pick up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Ken

Re: Prewar era

James Dlapa
 

Ok will take some pics this weekend. Seems easy enough to recreate

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:58 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thank you James. If you could take pictures with a ruler along the side I can figure out the dimensions from there. I also want the width and profile of looking from the top down. Any detail would be appreciated and extremely helpful.

I would love a truck like that but I don't want to use something that could be restored for what I'm creating. I just need basic Dimensions because my Roadster is based on Crosley Axel's an overall profile.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:53 PM, James Dlapa
Ken I have a complete truck bed that has some rust. I can take pictures and measurements of it that will help. It is missing the panel that goes behind the seats ( front of bed) but otherwise looks complete

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:51 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Will do. Thank you for the lead.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 12:50 PM, crosleyshortsport
Check with Ted at Yankee Crosley Parts.

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 1:46 PM James Dlapa <crosley1980@...> wrote:
Where are you located? 

On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM Technical Design via Groups.Io <technical.design=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello all,

I am working on my Crosley Roadster, which I am fabricating due to lack of sources for parts. I was wondering if anybody has dimensional information for all profiles of a pre-war era automobile? I'm actually looking for detail for a pre-war era pick up. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Ken