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remove bell housing from crosley engine

Jim Hostetter
 

I have removed the four obvious bolts that bolt the bell housing to the engine but I can't remove the bell housing. I found a recessed allen head bolt buried under all the grease. I have tried penetrating fluid, heat, and smacking the bolt with a hammer and can not break the bolt loose. Does anyone have any other methods of attach. Would greatly appreciate any input.
Thank you
Jim

Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

crosleymembership@...
 

My 1949 pickup has one from the factory.

Prewar front seats needed

crosleymembership@...
 
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I am in need of a set of seats for a Prewar, not '39. And a rear bottom cushion for a Prewar Covered Wagon or Woody Wagon. Thanks in advance.

Dip stick pops out

jane altman
 

Dip stick still pops out.  So far we:
1. Checked pressure in crank case. 
2. The new header's cap vent is clean.
Any other ideas?

Re: Front axle

Jim Bollman
 

If it is a true VC axle then it is the large 5/8" king pin heavier axle. All VC had the heavier axle according to factory Service Letters.

Check the spring length end to end, I never measured one, but it should work on a 48. 

Jim...


On Nov 9, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Dave <dlittleton2@...> wrote:

I was going to replace the spring  bushings on my front axle and yesterday I picked up a front axle with springs (it is not straight across it is offset in the middle) supposed to from a Hot or super sport, with disc brakes and springs. This axle has no oil or dirt on it and the springs almost look new. Would any or all of this minus the disc parts work on my 48 with mechanical brakes? Is this not the heavier front axle?

Re: remove bell housing from crosley engine

Joe Brownsberger
 

Jim, I am not 100% sure I've only taken apart one junk motor. I think the crank shaft must come out at this point, in the pictures attached the crank shaft has this ring on the fly wheel side of the main bearing. It doesn't give a whole lot to get past the pins in the crank case.


On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 3:02 PM Jim Hostetter <american.jim@... wrote:
I have removed the four obvious bolts that bolt the bell housing to the engine but I can't remove the bell housing. I found a recessed allen head bolt buried under all the grease. I have tried penetrating fluid, heat, and smacking the bolt with a hammer and can not break the bolt loose. Does anyone have any other methods of attach. Would greatly appreciate any input.
Thank you
Jim

Re: remove bell housing from crosley engine

Gene Smith
 

One of the most useful inexpensive tools you can have is a hand impact driver. Saved my bacon on numerous occasions when I was a mechanic! It will loosen things that no other tool can. Just Google “hand impact driver” and you’ll see a bunch of versions. Trust me…you’ll never regret the purchase!

~Gene Smith~

On Nov 9, 2018, at 2:02 PM, Jim Hostetter <american.jim@...> wrote:

I have removed the four obvious bolts that bolt the bell housing to the engine but I can't remove the bell housing. I found a recessed allen head bolt buried under all the grease. I have tried penetrating fluid, heat, and smacking the bolt with a hammer and can not break the bolt loose. Does anyone have any other methods of attach. Would greatly appreciate any input.
Thank you
Jim

Re: Dip stick pops out

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Only thing else is check the compression.


On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:55 PM, jane altman <bchjanead@...> wrote:

Dip stick still pops out.  So far we:
1. Checked pressure in crank case. 
2. The new header's cap vent is clean.
Any other ideas?

Attachments:

Re: Prewar front seats needed

Kenn Cahill
 

Are the front seats also for a woody wagon? The coupes (including the 1939’s) had one style of seats. The other models had a different style.

Re: Prewar front seats needed

crosleyshortsport
 

I would check with Dave Edwards or Dave Anspach.


On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 7:33 PM Kenn Cahill <drkenncahill@... wrote:
Are the front seats also for a woody wagon? The coupes (including the 1939’s) had one style of seats. The other models had a different style.



Re: Dip stick pops out

wvanbusk
 

Does the stick pop out with the crankcase and valve cover breathers removed? Started with the change in the exhaust system, no other systemic changes?


On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 5:25 PM dale@... <Dale@... wrote:
Only thing else is check the compression.


On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:55 PM, jane altman <bchjanead@...> wrote:

Dip stick still pops out.  So far we:
1. Checked pressure in crank case. 
2. The new header's cap vent is clean.
Any other ideas?

Attachments:

Re: Dip stick pops out

Jane Altman
 

Thanks Dale!  I think he has already done that also and it was sufficient, but he can't remember the number to share.


On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 7:25 PM dale@... <Dale@... wrote:
Only thing else is check the compression.


On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:55 PM, jane altman <bchjanead@...> wrote:

Dip stick still pops out.  So far we:
1. Checked pressure in crank case. 
2. The new header's cap vent is clean.
Any other ideas?

Attachments:

Re: remove bell housing from crosley engine

Butch
 

Howdy Jim,

Depending upon which crankcase/bellhousing you have, it may or may not be removable with the crankshaft still installed.

The allen head "bolt" that you found, is NOT a bolt, but in fact is the rear plug, in the main oil galley. It does NOT need to come out, to remove the bellhousing. In some instances, they are all but impossible to remove, heat is frequently required.

The only thing attaching the bellhousing to the rear of the crankcase is, 4 bolts AND 2 dowel pins. Possibly some gasket sealer also.

Tap gently with a rubber mallet and the bellhousing should come loose.

Butch

On 11/9/2018 3:02 PM, Jim Hostetter wrote:
I have removed the four obvious bolts that bolt the bell housing to the engine but I can't remove the bell housing. I found a recessed allen head bolt buried under all the grease. I have tried penetrating fluid, heat, and smacking the bolt with a hammer and can not break the bolt loose. Does anyone have any other methods of attach. Would greatly appreciate any input.
Thank you
Jim




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Re: remove bell housing from crosley engine

graywanderer.az51
 

Hand impact drivers were an absolute necessity for motor cycles and it looks like it will fix your problem. Other impacts really don't put enough downward force while turning the nut or bolt, that causes it to strip or or round off the points of contact. 

Re: Dip stick pops out

David Reina
 

Hi Jane,

Is it possible the dip stick is a little bent and at running speed gets tapped up by the crankshaft grazing it?

Dave

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51 Super Sport




On Nov 9, 2018, at 9:15 PM, Jane Altman <bchjane@...> wrote:

Thanks Dale!  I think he has already done that also and it was sufficient, but he can't remember the number to share.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018, 7:25 PM dale@... <Dale@... wrote:
Only thing else is check the compression.


On Nov 9, 2018, at 1:55 PM, jane altman <bchjanead@...> wrote:

Dip stick still pops out.  So far we:
1. Checked pressure in crank case. 
2. The new header's cap vent is clean.
Any other ideas?

Attachments:




Re: Dip stick pops out

jane altman
 

Thank you.  I will check to see if it is a little bent.  

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Re: Dip stick pops out

L.E. Hardee
 

If all else fails and your engine runs well otherwise, what about just securing the dip stick so it stays put?  My thought is to fabricate a short section of threaded rod just larger than the dip stick drilled to slide over the bottom of the dip stick up to the handle.  Braze or solder it in place just under the handle.  Then fill the dip stick hole with grease to catch chips.  Drill and tap a shallow matching female thread in the crankcase hole. Don't drill any deeper than you have too.  Also I would use a bottom tap so as much of the original hole can be retained.  The idea is to insert the dip stick and give it a couple of turns to screw it in to secure it in place.  I realize this is a remedy of last resort but at least the dip stick will stay put. 


On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 7:57 AM jane altman <bchjanead@...> wrote:
Thank you.  I will check to see if it is a little bent.  

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Re: Dip stick pops out

wvanbusk
 

Is the psi crankcase pressure in the normal range?
https://itstillruns.com/can-high-crankcase-pressure-can-caused-worn-piston-rings-12162215.html

Re: remove bell housing from crosley engine

Jim Hostetter
 

Thanks to all for your input. Butch has it right. I will have to pull the crankshaft to remove the bell housing.

Thanks again

 

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Howdy Jim,

Depending upon which crankcase/bellhousing you have, it may or may not be removable with the crankshaft still installed.

The allen head "bolt" that you found, is NOT a bolt, but in fact is the rear plug, in the main oil galley. It does NOT need to come out, to remove the bellhousing. In some instances, they are all but impossible to remove, heat is frequently required.

The only thing attaching the bellhousing to the rear of the crankcase is, 4 bolts AND 2 dowel pins. Possibly some gasket sealer also.

Tap gently with a rubber mallet and the bellhousing should come loose.

Butch

On 11/9/2018 3:02 PM, Jim Hostetter wrote:

I have removed the four obvious bolts that bolt the bell housing to the engine but I can't remove the bell housing. I found a recessed allen head bolt buried under all the grease. I have tried penetrating fluid, heat, and smacking the bolt with a hammer and can not break the bolt loose. Does anyone have any other methods of attach. Would greatly appreciate any input.
Thank you
Jim

 

 


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Re: Prewar front seats needed

crosleymembership@...
 

The seats I need are for a Covered Wagon, Front and back bottom cushion. Thanks