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Re: For Sale: 49 Pickup, 51 Super Sports, Tractor, Parts - PA - $3500

Jeremy Rutherford
 

Too bad, looks l a lot of nice stuff, but the market is only going to bear so much,  and it’s a lot of work/money to buy transport and resell stuff so you’d have to buy it right to make anything if planning on reselling,  it’s not like he’s sitting on a pile of Bugatti parts or something 


On Nov 1, 2018, at 8:27 AM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

Ted at Yankee also tried dealing with this fella. The guy was very aggresive with Ted. Ted ended up saying, no thanks.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 8:38 PM Gabriel Haddad <super51.g100@... wrote:
He's definitely a wheeler dealer. He said he posted all over and specifically in LV just to get Dale's attention. He knows what he's doing.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 8:07 AM Jim Bollman <Jim@... wrote:
With all the price changes, the fact that it was on a LasVegas CraigsList and the Crosleys are in PA starts to look suspicious.

Jim...

On Oct 30, 2018, at 11:23 PM, Jeremy Rutherford <jruthe2@...> wrote:

I wondered if that was the case, it kind of seemed like the listing was geared more for just the truck at 3500, 7500 might not be unreasonable if you wanted to mess with it, lot of work there though,  if someone buys the collection I might be interested in the vent window doors pictured....


On Oct 30, 2018, at 9:54 PM, dale@... <Dale@...> wrote:

He told me 12k


On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Gabriel Haddad <super51.g100@...> wrote:

Ahh, it's mislisted. He wants 7500 or so for the entire package.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 2:40 PM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I agree with Jim.  There is 3500 in extra parts without the vehicles.   It is,easily worth double the price.

On Oct 30, 2018 11:27 AM, Jim Bollman <Jim@...> wrote:
Looks like a great deal for someone that wants to buy a whole collection.

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/antique-1949-crosley-pickup/6731057476.html

Jim...




Crosley of the Month - November

Jim Bollman
 

Here is the new Crosley of the Month, enjoy.

http://crosleyautoclub.com/

Jim...
Where Does Oil Where Block Bolts on Come From?

Dennis Terdy
 

"Oil in ledge under engine side plates (10 bolts each side)"

I have not seen a Crosley yet without oil pooled in the ledge beneath the side plates (ones covering cylinders on both sides) of CIBA engine. I have tightened the oil pressure connection to the block on both of my Crosleys - still leaking. What is the source? Please advise. Thank you.
Re: Where Does Oil Where Block Bolts on Come From?

Jim Bollman
 

I moved your question to a new topic where it is more visible.
Please start a new thread when starting a new topic.

Cam Cover and Fuel Pump gaskets are where I normally see the leaks coming from.
Re: Where Does Oil Where Block Bolts on Come From?

dale@servicemotors.net
 

Its the bolts that hold down the cylinder to the crankshaft housing.  I use copper sealing washers under the nuts and seems to stop the leaks.


On Nov 2, 2018, at 8:28 AM, Dennis Terdy <dennis.terdy@...> wrote:

"Oil in ledge under engine side plates (10 bolts each side)"

I have not seen a Crosley yet without oil pooled in the ledge beneath the side plates (ones covering cylinders on both sides) of CIBA engine. I have tightened the oil pressure connection to the block on both of my Crosleys - still leaking. What is the source? Please advise. Thank you.
Re: Where Does Oil Where Block Bolts on Come From?

wvanbusk
 

Some of our engines are not well ventilated causing blow by pressure to build up, seals to leak, dipsticks and caps lost, oil all over the engine, chassis, roads, etc. Crosley added crankcase breathers at some point, but that was only partly remedial. The problem of blow-by pollution and leaks was solved when manufactures were forced to improve the management of crankcase gasses.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crankcase_ventilation_system
Wade
Re: Where Does Oil Where Block Bolts on Come From?

A50CROSLEYTRK@...
 

On mine it was the casting seam behind the generator bracket.  I guess I tightened the fitting too tight and cracked it.  Tried to weld it and was a no go.
         Robert

In a message dated 11/2/2018 11:28:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, dennis.terdy@... writes:

"Oil in ledge under engine side plates (10 bolts each side)"

I have not seen a Crosley yet without oil pooled in the ledge beneath the side plates (ones covering cylinders on both sides) of CIBA engine. I have tightened the oil pressure connection to the block on both of my Crosleys - still leaking. What is the source? Please advise. Thank you.
CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

Tim Hamblen
 

There are so few pictures of trucks to begin with and the CDs even more so, so the question, did CD pickups have a rear splash pan between body and bumper ? I know the CCs  did not but what about the CDs
Re: Crosley collection for sale

Mike Mayberry
 

James,
Did you find any gems out there? I am pretty close.
Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

Jeremy Rutherford
 

I was told no by either yankee or service motors when I asked


On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

There are so few pictures of trucks to begin with and the CDs even more so, so the question, did CD pickups have a rear splash pan between body and bumper ? I know the CCs  did not but what about the CDs

Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

christopher cochrane
 

In all the versions I’ve seen. There is no pan on the rear from the factory. Some folks have added them for the aesthetics. 

On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rutherford <jruthe2@...> wrote:

I was told no by either yankee or service motors when I asked


On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

There are so few pictures of trucks to begin with and the CDs even more so, so the question, did CD pickups have a rear splash pan between body and bumper ? I know the CCs  did not but what about the CDs

Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

crosleyshortsport
 

It would look naked without it.


On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:49 PM christopher cochrane via Groups.Io <Pisarunner=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
In all the versions I’ve seen. There is no pan on the rear from the factory. Some folks have added them for the aesthetics. 

On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rutherford <jruthe2@...> wrote:

I was told no by either yankee or service motors when I asked


On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

There are so few pictures of trucks to begin with and the CDs even more so, so the question, did CD pickups have a rear splash pan between body and bumper ? I know the CCs  did not but what about the CDs

Re: Crosley collection for sale

James Dlapa
 

Hi Mike, I have some pictures from the trip 

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 8:35 AM Mike Mayberry <mikemayberry75@...> wrote:
James,
Did you find any gems out there? I am pretty close.

Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

L.E. Hardee
 

With no knowledge of what Crosley offered as standard, I would like to offer a plausible explanation.  Rear bumpers were an option on Ford, Chevy, etc. pickups of the 40s-50's era.  Is it possible that the Crosley rear pickup bumper was also a dealer installed option?  If so, the splash pan installation would have required not only painting to match the body, but also the removal of the tailgate hinge to insert the splash pan in its place under the hinge bolts.  All this would have increased the cost of installation beyond what economy minded Crosley buyers would pay.  After I wrote this, I found this picture from a CC brochure with a wagon fendered pick up without a bumper.  This supports my theory.

I do agree the wagon fendered pickup looks much better with the splash pan, but I think the roundside pu looks ok without a splash pan.
image.png

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:15 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
It would look naked without it.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:49 PM christopher cochrane via Groups.Io <Pisarunner=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
In all the versions I’ve seen. There is no pan on the rear from the factory. Some folks have added them for the aesthetics. 

On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rutherford <jruthe2@...> wrote:

I was told no by either yankee or service motors when I asked


On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

There are so few pictures of trucks to begin with and the CDs even more so, so the question, did CD pickups have a rear splash pan between body and bumper ? I know the CCs  did not but what about the CDs

Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

L.E. Hardee
 

I also don't see a rear bumper on this 1951 pu publicity photo. 
image.png

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:07 PM L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:
With no knowledge of what Crosley offered as standard, I would like to offer a plausible explanation.  Rear bumpers were an option on Ford, Chevy, etc. pickups of the 40s-50's era.  Is it possible that the Crosley rear pickup bumper was also a dealer installed option?  If so, the splash pan installation would have required not only painting to match the body, but also the removal of the tailgate hinge to insert the splash pan in its place under the hinge bolts.  All this would have increased the cost of installation beyond what economy minded Crosley buyers would pay.  After I wrote this, I found this picture from a CC brochure with a wagon fendered pick up without a bumper.  This supports my theory.

I do agree the wagon fendered pickup looks much better with the splash pan, but I think the roundside pu looks ok without a splash pan.
image.png

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:15 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
It would look naked without it.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:49 PM christopher cochrane via Groups.Io <Pisarunner=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
In all the versions I’ve seen. There is no pan on the rear from the factory. Some folks have added them for the aesthetics. 

On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rutherford <jruthe2@...> wrote:

I was told no by either yankee or service motors when I asked


On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

There are so few pictures of trucks to begin with and the CDs even more so, so the question, did CD pickups have a rear splash pan between body and bumper ? I know the CCs  did not but what about the CDs

Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

Jim Bollman
 

To throw some factory photos on the other side of the argument. Here is a bunch of photos from a CC pickup flyer. Most of the photos you can see a bumper. I don't remember seeing any reference to optional bumpers one way or another.


Jim...


On Nov 7, 2018, at 9:15 PM, L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:

I also don't see a rear bumper on this 1951 pu publicity photo.  
<image.png>

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:07 PM L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:
With no knowledge of what Crosley offered as standard, I would like to offer a plausible explanation.  Rear bumpers were an option on Ford, Chevy, etc. pickups of the 40s-50's era.  Is it possible that the Crosley rear pickup bumper was also a dealer installed option?  If so, the splash pan installation would have required not only painting to match the body, but also the removal of the tailgate hinge to insert the splash pan in its place under the hinge bolts.  All this would have increased the cost of installation beyond what economy minded Crosley buyers would pay.  After I wrote this, I found this picture from a CC brochure with a wagon fendered pick up without a bumper.  This supports my theory.

I do agree the wagon fendered pickup looks much better with the splash pan, but I think the roundside pu looks ok without a splash pan.
<image.png>

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:15 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
It would look naked without it.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:49 PM christopher cochrane via Groups.Io <Pisarunner=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
In all the versions I’ve seen. There is no pan on the rear from the factory. Some folks have added them for the aesthetics. 

On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rutherford <jruthe2@...> wrote:

I was told no by either yankee or service motors when I asked


On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

There are so few pictures of trucks to begin with and the CDs even more so, so the question, did CD pickups have a rear splash pan between body and bumper ? I know the CCs  did not but what about the CDs
Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

Jim Bollman
 

Here is a 1950 factory photo of the sedan delivery that shows the bumper and splash pan.


Jim...

On Nov 7, 2018, at 9:15 PM, L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:

I also don't see a rear bumper on this 1951 pu publicity photo.  
<image.png>

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:07 PM L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:
With no knowledge of what Crosley offered as standard, I would like to offer a plausible explanation.  Rear bumpers were an option on Ford, Chevy, etc. pickups of the 40s-50's era.  Is it possible that the Crosley rear pickup bumper was also a dealer installed option?  If so, the splash pan installation would have required not only painting to match the body, but also the removal of the tailgate hinge to insert the splash pan in its place under the hinge bolts.  All this would have increased the cost of installation beyond what economy minded Crosley buyers would pay.  After I wrote this, I found this picture from a CC brochure with a wagon fendered pick up without a bumper.  This supports my theory.

I do agree the wagon fendered pickup looks much better with the splash pan, but I think the roundside pu looks ok without a splash pan.
<image.png>

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:15 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
It would look naked without it.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:49 PM christopher cochrane via Groups.Io <Pisarunner=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
In all the versions I’ve seen. There is no pan on the rear from the factory. Some folks have added them for the aesthetics. 

On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rutherford <jruthe2@...> wrote:

I was told no by either yankee or service motors when I asked


On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

There are so few pictures of trucks to begin with and the CDs even more so, so the question, did CD pickups have a rear splash pan between body and bumper ? I know the CCs  did not but what about the CDs
Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

Jaks
 

My 46 roundside has both bumper and splash pan (but it also has a phender phuel phill a cardboard liner on rear bulkhead around rear window as well as cardboard door panels and headliner)

Jaks Phillips
papajaks@...


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bollman <Jim@...>
To: Crosley-Gang <Crosley-Gang@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Nov 7, 2018 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

To throw some factory photos on the other side of the argument. Here is a bunch of photos from a CC pickup flyer. Most of the photos you can see a bumper. I don't remember seeing any reference to optional bumpers one way or another.


Jim...


On Nov 7, 2018, at 9:15 PM, L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:

I also don't see a rear bumper on this 1951 pu publicity photo.  
<image.png>

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 9:07 PM L.E. Hardee <hftsales@...> wrote:
With no knowledge of what Crosley offered as standard, I would like to offer a plausible explanation.  Rear bumpers were an option on Ford, Chevy, etc. pickups of the 40s-50's era.  Is it possible that the Crosley rear pickup bumper was also a dealer installed option?  If so, the splash pan installation would have required not only painting to match the body, but also the removal of the tailgate hinge to insert the splash pan in its place under the hinge bolts.  All this would have increased the cost of installation beyond what economy minded Crosley buyers would pay.  After I wrote this, I found this picture from a CC brochure with a wagon fendered pick up without a bumper.  This supports my theory.

I do agree the wagon fendered pickup looks much better with the splash pan, but I think the roundside pu looks ok without a splash pan.
<image.png>

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:15 PM crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
It would look naked without it.

On Wed, Nov 7, 2018, 5:49 PM christopher cochrane via Groups.Io <Pisarunner=yahoo.com@groups.io wrote:
In all the versions I’ve seen. There is no pan on the rear from the factory. Some folks have added them for the aesthetics. 

On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rutherford <jruthe2@...> wrote:

I was told no by either yankee or service motors when I asked


On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

There are so few pictures of trucks to begin with and the CDs even more so, so the question, did CD pickups have a rear splash pan between body and bumper ? I know the CCs  did not but what about the CDs
Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

Tim Hamblen
 

The 49 PU I just got is in good enough condition that I want to do a really good , authentic rest on it.That's why I am asking. The bumper and a splash pan are missing , so I need to know if I need both or just a bumper. Someone in it's past has fabbed up a custom roll pan and that has to go. I've not got under it yest to see how I will have to return it to it's OEM state. I may need the two dog ears under the rear quarters too. The worst of the body is the tailgate. It's rotted away in the center of the thing, both the skin and the support inside. So I will be jonesing a new tailgate at Wauseon.(and maybe the dog ears)
Re: CD trucks ..splash pan on rear or not ??

Jeremy Rutherford
 

Does someone sell the “dog ears” or is used the only option?


On Nov 8, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io <flinttim@...> wrote:

The 49 PU I just got is in good enough condition that I want to do a really good , authentic rest on it.That's why I am asking. The bumper and a splash pan are missing , so I need to know if I need both or just a bumper. Someone in it's past has fabbed up a custom roll pan and that has to go. I've not got under it yest to see how I will have to return it to it's OEM state. I may need the two dog ears under the rear quarters too. The worst of the body is the tailgate. It's rotted away in the center of the thing, both the skin and the support inside. So I will be jonesing a new tailgate at Wauseon.(and maybe the dog ears)