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Crosley, No high end power

crosleyshortsport
 

Help please,   I am missing something. I have a rebuilt engine. I have a new wiring harness, a good coil, new points adjusted to .022.  Spark plugs adjusted to .025. New wires, cap and rotor, and have made sure the lobes in the bottom of the distributor move freely. I replaced the condenser with another one off one of my running Crosleys.  I believe I have the timing just right. Plenty of fuel, and a tillotson carb that is adjusted and works very well. At a standstill, the engine will start with a touch of the button and rev up and without any hesitation really scream and sound like it is ready to fly. Going down the road, First gear is fine, and will take me to 20 miles per hour. Second gear starts out good, then will only get me to 28 mikes per hour and the engine starts to falter, third gear just plods along at 30 mph and there is no more power. I am stumped ! And I have hand timed all of my other Crosleys. I just do not know what else to look for.
   Jeffrey

Re: Crosley, No high end power

SteveC
 

I’ve seen a similar situation a few times. Each time it was fuel delivery related. Something was blocking the flow of fuel. Very effective speed governor. Everything was ok in the driveway but under a load, starving for fuel. Cars were British but symptoms the same. Turned out to be a kinked jet tube on one. Plastic fuel filter that was collapsing under vacuum on another and just a piece of dirt in a line on the third. All behaved the same. Hope that helps...

Re: Crosley, No high end power

L.E. Hardee
 

Would it be possible that the fuel hose between the tank and the fuel pump is collapsing internally when the fuel pump starts sucking hard?  I remember riding with my mom around 1956 in her '52 Super sedan.  All was fine until she started up a local hill with a steep grade.  The car faltered and died.  She coasted back down to the bottom and cranked the car.  It started up just fine and ran like a top.  To make a long story shorter, she attempted the hill about 6 times before giving up and getting the car towed to the Crosley dealer.  Inner wall of fuel line was collapsing with extreme vacuum trying to pull fuel from tank to engine on the hill grade.  She probably could have made it up the hill and then home if she had tried to back up the hill.

Good luck finding your problem.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:50 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:
Help please,   I am missing something. I have a rebuilt engine. I have a new wiring harness, a good coil, new points adjusted to .022.  Spark plugs adjusted to .025. New wires, cap and rotor, and have made sure the lobes in the bottom of the distributor move freely. I replaced the condenser with another one off one of my running Crosleys.  I believe I have the timing just right. Plenty of fuel, and a tillotson carb that is adjusted and works very well. At a standstill, the engine will start with a touch of the button and rev up and without any hesitation really scream and sound like it is ready to fly. Going down the road, First gear is fine, and will take me to 20 miles per hour. Second gear starts out good, then will only get me to 28 mikes per hour and the engine starts to falter, third gear just plods along at 30 mph and there is no more power. I am stumped ! And I have hand timed all of my other Crosleys. I just do not know what else to look for.
   Jeffrey


Re: Crosley, No high end power

Richard Williams
 

Check the valve clearances.


On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:50 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:


Help please,   I am missing something. I have a rebuilt engine. I have a new wiring harness, a good coil, new points adjusted to .022.  Spark plugs adjusted to .025. New wires, cap and rotor, and have made sure the lobes in the bottom of the distributor move freely. I replaced the condenser with another one off one of my running Crosleys.  I believe I have the timing just right. Plenty of fuel, and a tillotson carb that is adjusted and works very well. At a standstill, the engine will start with a touch of the button and rev up and without any hesitation really scream and sound like it is ready to fly. Going down the road, First gear is fine, and will take me to 20 miles per hour. Second gear starts out good, then will only get me to 28 mikes per hour and the engine starts to falter, third gear just plods along at 30 mph and there is no more power. I am stumped ! And I have hand timed all of my other Crosleys. I just do not know what else to look for.
   Jeffrey


Re: Crosley, No high end power

Vern Barker
 

Sounds like the vacuum advance isn’t working.
 
Vern
 

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Check the valve clearances.


On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:50 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:


Help please,   I am missing something. I have a rebuilt engine. I have a new wiring harness, a good coil, new points adjusted to .022.  Spark plugs adjusted to .025. New wires, cap and rotor, and have made sure the lobes in the bottom of the distributor move freely. I replaced the condenser with another one off one of my running Crosleys.  I believe I have the timing just right. Plenty of fuel, and a tillotson carb that is adjusted and works very well. At a standstill, the engine will start with a touch of the button and rev up and without any hesitation really scream and sound like it is ready to fly. Going down the road, First gear is fine, and will take me to 20 miles per hour. Second gear starts out good, then will only get me to 28 mikes per hour and the engine starts to falter, third gear just plods along at 30 mph and there is no more power. I am stumped ! And I have hand timed all of my other Crosleys. I just do not know what else to look for.
   Jeffrey


Re: Crosley, No high end power

Barry Smedley
 

Crosley’s don’t have vacuum advance.

 

Barry Smedley

 

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Sounds like the vacuum advance isn’t working.

 

Vern

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 1:09 AM

To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io

Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Crosley, No high end power

 

Check the valve clearances.

 

On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:50 PM, crosleyshortsport <crosleyshortsport@...> wrote:

 

Help please,   I am missing something. I have a rebuilt engine. I have a new wiring harness, a good coil, new points adjusted to .022.  Spark plugs adjusted to .025. New wires, cap and rotor, and have made sure the lobes in the bottom of the distributor move freely. I replaced the condenser with another one off one of my running Crosleys.  I believe I have the timing just right. Plenty of fuel, and a tillotson carb that is adjusted and works very well. At a standstill, the engine will start with a touch of the button and rev up and without any hesitation really scream and sound like it is ready to fly. Going down the road, First gear is fine, and will take me to 20 miles per hour. Second gear starts out good, then will only get me to 28 mikes per hour and the engine starts to falter, third gear just plods along at 30 mph and there is no more power. I am stumped ! And I have hand timed all of my other Crosleys. I just do not know what else to look for.

   Jeffrey

 

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Re: Crosley, No high end power

Robert Kirk
 

Have you run a compression and/or leak down test?  Have you set your valve lash?  Sounds like low compression. 

Re: Crosley, No high end power

Butch
 

Sorry Vern,

There is NO vacuum advance on a Crosley distributor.

Butch

On 9/26/2018 8:26 AM, Vern Barker wrote:
Sounds like the vacuum advance isn’t working.
 
Vern
 


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Re: Crosley, No high end power

crosleyshortsport
 

The advance in the distributor, is a centrifical force advance consisting of two lobes that fly out at around 650 rpm. I did replace them with another set and they to work smoother. Still not the problem though. I am going to take a second look at the fuel line and connections. I am open to any and all suggestions though. 


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 9:37 AM Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Sorry Vern,

There is NO vacuum advance on a Crosley distributor.

Butch

On 9/26/2018 8:26 AM, Vern Barker wrote:
Sounds like the vacuum advance isn’t working.
 
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Re: Crosley, No high end power

A50CROSLEYTRK@...
 

This would be easy to do for a test .  Open the main jet a 1/4 of a turn.  If it gets better open another 1/4 turn.  Runs in my mind you said it is a Tillotson carburetor.
       bye            Robert

In a message dated 9/26/2018 10:27:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, crosleyshortsport@... writes:

The advance in the distributor, is a centrifical force advance consisting of two lobes that fly out at around 650 rpm. I did replace them with another set and they to work smoother. Still not the problem though. I am going to take a second look at the fuel line and connections. I am open to any and all suggestions though.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 9:37 AM Butch via Groups.Io <butch46988=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Sorry Vern,

There is NO vacuum advance on a Crosley distributor.

Butch

On 9/26/2018 8:26 AM, Vern Barker wrote:
Sounds like the vacuum advance isn’t working.

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No high end power

Spock Arnold
 

What is missing here is that Jeff has replaced the carb and the fuel pump with others from a running engine with no improvement.   He has rebuilt the distributor, reset the timing a number of times and all of this on a fresh professional rebuild.  

Re: No high end power

Todd Swangstu
 

Possible plugged or partially plugged exhaust.  My wife's 2001 VW Jetta wagon just had similar probs.  The cat went bad, broke into chunks and would partially block the exhaust.  Car ran fine in low end...but could not get over 40mph if your life depended on it.

I have seen squirels fill exhauts with nuts etc from sitting...may wanna look into this...

Todd
Toledo Ohio

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 6:34 PM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
What is missing here is that Jeff has replaced the carb and the fuel pump with others from a running engine with no improvement.   He has rebuilt the distributor, reset the timing a number of times and all of this on a fresh professional rebuild.  

No high end power

Spock Arnold
 

Nice idea Todd, but this is a new restoration with, (I think) a new exhaust system.  

Re: No high end power

crosleyshortsport
 

Yes,  A new exaust system, and everything else completely restored. I will have some time tomorrow late afternoon to work on a couple of suggestions. I will let you know how it turns out.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 8:58 PM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Nice idea Todd, but this is a new restoration with, (I think) a new exhaust system.  

Re: Turn Signal Switch

wvanbusk
 

Is this a common oem turn signal switch for a 1950 CD?

Re: Turn Signal Switch

Joe Brownsberger
 

It's a heater switch. My 49 has one, I found it in the glove box. Attached are some picks that's the turn signal mine came with.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 11:32 PM wvanbusk <wvanbusk@...> wrote:
Is this a common oem turn signal switch for a 1950 CD?

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Re: Turn Signal Switch

wvanbusk
 

Oh yes, the heater. That explains the extra holes in the firewall and the missing hoses. They forgot the heater fan switch. 

So, what is left of the turn signal looks like this attached image. Was there an oem turn signal switch for the bottom of the dash? There is a bunch of wires and a flasher relay wired to this stump.


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 9:00 PM Joe Brownsberger <jbraunsberg@...> wrote:
It's a heater switch. My 49 has one, I found it in the glove box. Attached are some picks that's the turn signal mine came with.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 11:32 PM wvanbusk <wvanbusk@...> wrote:
Is this a common oem turn signal switch for a 1950 CD?

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Re: Turn Signal Switch

Spock Arnold
 

Short answer.....no! Correct switch is a side to side slide.

On Sep 26, 2018 11:32 PM, wvanbusk <wvanbusk@...> wrote:
Is this a common oem turn signal switch for a 1950 CD?

Re: Turn Signal Switch

Gabriel Haddad
 

The original switch is there, it's missing the slide tab. It's in pretty rough condition but, it may be restorable. Don't through it away!


On Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 7:20 AM Spock Arnold via Groups.Io <tmkldwwj=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Short answer.....no! Correct switch is a side to side slide.

On Sep 26, 2018 11:32 PM, wvanbusk <wvanbusk@...> wrote:
Is this a common oem turn signal switch for a 1950 CD?

Re: Turn Signal Switch

wvanbusk
 

I will try to save it, thanks.

Not sure what the tab looks like, but it is not very big to fit in the little hole. 

It slides! Mostly to the left. The wires are shot, so I will be removing it to clean.

Is there a dash turn indicator light or two in this setup? Do owners add them?

Cheers