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Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Kenn Cahill
 

I think that David Edwards showed me an example of one of the original ones. You might contact him to see if he can enlighten you.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Steve
 

As I remember, that is correct.  The ends of the shoes were trimmed off.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 7:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

Steve, it appears that the ends of the shoes , where they contact the cylinder is what has to be altered, does it sound about right ?

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Tim Hamblen
 

I have ordered a couple of the Mini Cooper cylinders. Kinda buying a pig in a poke since about all I know is what a picture shows. I stopped by local O'Reillys and looked at  what is on the shelf but nothing would work, too big. My 49 has both styles of mechanicals on it, the welded shoes and the cast steel ones. The welded shoes seem to be a good candidate as seen in the pictures. The cast shoes are a bit of a pain as they have nothing to hold them while you slip the drum on.They might be a candidate for the typical "Pin, spring and washer" system used.While cleaning up some backing plates I have I found yet another variant in mechanical brakes. One had an adjuster I had never seen before.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

Hi
Have been guilty of "Improving" my VC so I guess this is the pot calling the kettle black. Had a Model A Ford a long time. The original Ford brakes were RESTORED. The Ford brakes were designed to stop the car efficiently. Those brakes never failed me in twenty three years of use. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Don

> On August 29, 2018 at 9:22 PM Kenn Cahill <drkenncahill@...> wrote:
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> I think that David Edwards showed me an example of one of the original ones. You might contact him to see if he can enlighten you.
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Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Tim Hamblen
 

LOL. Well, Aerojet engine with Schneider cam, header , Braje intake, aluminum radiator, converted to 12 v with alternator , electric fan and electric fuel pump. The "if it ain't broke , don't fix it " ship sailed a long time ago.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

Yes, Fageol big block, 10/1 compression, Crane cam, Braje intake, header, Harley muffler & electronic ignition. Still stopping with stock 9" brakes!
Don

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------ Original message------
From: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io
Date: Thu, Aug 30, 2018 10:56 AM
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Subject:Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

LOL. Well, Aerojet engine with Schneider cam, header , Braje intake, aluminum radiator, converted to 12 v with alternator , electric fan and electric fuel pump. The "if it ain't broke , don't fix it " ship sailed a long time ago.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Robert Kirk
 

The early and late Mini used different sizes, early was 0.8125 GWC102 both sides and the late are sided, 0.9375 GWC126/7.  British car parts are my specialty cost for the earrly is $12 each.  Cost for the larger late style is $14 each per side.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Tim Hamblen
 

Yes, but I have mechanical.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Tim Hamblen
 

I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

Picking up on Tim's hope to find an original disc brake set up. Does anyone have possibilities for modern disc brakes that would adapt to fit a Crosley?
Don

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------ Original message------
From: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io
Date: Thu, Aug 30, 2018 4:10 PM
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Subject:Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Spock Arnold
 

What would a complete 4 wheel set of original disc brakes on axles be worth these days?

On Aug 30, 2018 4:10 PM, "Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io" <flinttim@...> wrote:
I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Steve
 

We have had cars at Wauseon with disc brakes adapted from an early Ford Fiesta.  The early Fiesta (‘80’s) had 12 inch wheels.  As I mentioned before, Joey DeLorenzo adapted the disc brakes by turning down the 6 inch drum into a hub that accepted disc rotors.  Much the same as today’s cars.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of PATRICIA GRITTI
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:00 PM
To: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io; Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

Picking up on Tim's hope to find an original disc brake set up. Does anyone have possibilities for modern disc brakes that would adapt to fit a Crosley?

Don

 

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------ Original message------

From: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io

Date: Thu, Aug 30, 2018 4:10 PM

Cc:

Subject:Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Steve
 

I once found a ’49 convertible with disc brakes rotting away in a wrecking yard.  I expressed interest in the brakes.  I was told $350.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Spock Arnold via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 5:13 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

What would a complete 4 wheel set of original disc brakes on axles be worth these days?

 

On Aug 30, 2018 4:10 PM, "Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io" <flinttim@...> wrote:

I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.

 

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

Hi
Checked Amazon for 1978 to 1980 Ford Fiesta disc brake parts. The pictures seem to show five bolt rotors. Guess they could be drilled for Crosley four bolt.

Don

On August 30, 2018 at 6:56 PM Steve <brawnybug@...> wrote:

We have had cars at Wauseon with disc brakes adapted from an early Ford Fiesta.  The early Fiesta (‘80’s) had 12 inch wheels.  As I mentioned before, Joey DeLorenzo adapted the disc brakes by turning down the 6 inch drum into a hub that accepted disc rotors.  Much the same as today’s cars.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of PATRICIA GRITTI
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:00 PM
To: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io; Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

Picking up on Tim's hope to find an original disc brake set up. Does anyone have possibilities for modern disc brakes that would adapt to fit a Crosley?

Don

 

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------ Original message------

From: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io

Date: Thu, Aug 30, 2018 4:10 PM

Cc:

Subject:Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.


 

 

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Spock Arnold
 

How long ago Steve?  I have a set to sell (could bring to Hershey) but don't know how to price it.

On Aug 30, 2018 6:58 PM, Steve <brawnybug@...> wrote:

I once found a ’49 convertible with disc brakes rotting away in a wrecking yard.  I expressed interest in the brakes.  I was told $350.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Spock Arnold via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 5:13 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

What would a complete 4 wheel set of original disc brakes on axles be worth these days?

 

On Aug 30, 2018 4:10 PM, "Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io" <flinttim@...> wrote:

I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.

 


Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Steve
 

Should I admit that was 45 years ago?  Allowing for inflation + increased rarity + increased demand + the salesman skills of Mr. Anspach…  I would think you could ask more.  I sold the 6 inch hydraulic conversion set for $250 – no axles, just backing plate, shoes, and wheel cylinders.  And that was in 2010 at Wauseon.  Your discs should be worth considerably more than those.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Spock Arnold via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:31 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

How long ago Steve?  I have a set to sell (could bring to Hershey) but don't know how to price it.

 

On Aug 30, 2018 6:58 PM, Steve <brawnybug@...> wrote:

I once found a ’49 convertible with disc brakes rotting away in a wrecking yard.  I expressed interest in the brakes.  I was told $350.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Spock Arnold via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 5:13 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

What would a complete 4 wheel set of original disc brakes on axles be worth these days?

 

On Aug 30, 2018 4:10 PM, "Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io" <flinttim@...> wrote:

I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.

 

 

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Steve
 

RockAuto shows a 4 bolt rotor.  Still some drilling may be required to fit a 4 inch bolt pattern.

 

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of PATRICIA GRITTI
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 6:28 PM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io; Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io; Steve
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

Hi
Checked Amazon for 1978 to 1980 Ford Fiesta disc brake parts. The pictures seem to show five bolt rotors. Guess they could be drilled for Crosley four bolt.

Don


On August 30, 2018 at 6:56 PM Steve <brawnybug@...> wrote:

We have had cars at Wauseon with disc brakes adapted from an early Ford Fiesta.  The early Fiesta (‘80’s) had 12 inch wheels.  As I mentioned before, Joey DeLorenzo adapted the disc brakes by turning down the 6 inch drum into a hub that accepted disc rotors.  Much the same as today’s cars.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of PATRICIA GRITTI
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:00 PM
To: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io; Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

Picking up on Tim's hope to find an original disc brake set up. Does anyone have possibilities for modern disc brakes that would adapt to fit a Crosley?

Don

 

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------ Original message------

From: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io

Date: Thu, Aug 30, 2018 4:10 PM

Cc:

Subject:Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.


 


 

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Robert Kirk
 

Time and elbow grease could turn motor scooter/cycle or Go Kart front discs into replacements on a Crosley.  I thought the Mini suggestion a very good idea. 

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

A50CROSLEYTRK@...
 

I have looking at trailer axle parts that have 7" hydraulic drum and 4" bolt circle.
       Robert

In a message dated 8/30/2018 7:46:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, kirkbrit@... writes:

Time and elbow grease could turn motor scooter/cycle or Go Kart front discs into replacements on a Crosley.  I thought the Mini suggestion a very good idea. 

Re: Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

Doug Daniel
 

Austin Healy Sprite were 4 bolts on 4” circle same as Crosley.  The Sprites had 4 wheel hydraulic brakes with disc on front.

Thanks

       Doug


On Aug 30, 2018, at 4:28 PM, PATRICIA GRITTI <donald-gritti@...> wrote:

Hi
Checked Amazon for 1978 to 1980 Ford Fiesta disc brake parts. The pictures seem to show five bolt rotors. Guess they could be drilled for Crosley four bolt.

Don

On August 30, 2018 at 6:56 PM Steve <brawnybug@...> wrote:

We have had cars at Wauseon with disc brakes adapted from an early Ford Fiesta.  The early Fiesta (‘80’s) had 12 inch wheels.  As I mentioned before, Joey DeLorenzo adapted the disc brakes by turning down the 6 inch drum into a hub that accepted disc rotors.  Much the same as today’s cars.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of PATRICIA GRITTI
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:00 PM
To: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io; Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

Picking up on Tim's hope to find an original disc brake set up. Does anyone have possibilities for modern disc brakes that would adapt to fit a Crosley?

Don

 

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

 

------ Original message------

From: Tim Hamblen via Groups.Io

Date: Thu, Aug 30, 2018 4:10 PM

Cc:

Subject:Re: [Crosley-Gang] Converting 6" mechanical brakes to hydraulic (not going to 9" but keeping the 6" drums)

 

I have rebuilt the complete system (mechanical) on my 49 and they might do but I am exploring possibilities. Truthfully I may end up finding a complete disc brake system and rebuilding it for my 49.9" Bendix are getting rare as hen's teeth because everyone has the same idea. I'm looking at options that may help future Crosley guys and  gals.