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Re: Restoring vacuum wipers

Dennis Terdy
 

I did the same with trans fluid for 2 different sets of Crosley wipers. The key to Park's recommendation is to wait a few days! Mine are still working 5 years later.

Dennis

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 9:52 AM <parkhunter@...> wrote:
Hot tip for rejuvenating vacuum wipers...

On Erick’s 1965 Rambler they were barely functional. At the time they would swipe left across a wet windshield, but barely creep back to the right, and sometimes not at all.

I hooked a short piece of fuel line to the intake nipple on the vacuum motor, and dripped in Lucas Transmission Fix (which is supposed to renew seals). We worked the wipers by hand for a minute or two to suck the goo through the motor. It didn’t seem to help.

A week later I turned on the wipers, and WOW! The wipers work great and at a variety of speeds, and they work without too much variation at various throttle settings. We can live with these. Check out this video, driving through a thunderstorm in Oklahoma.... 

https://youtu.be/QBUUnicCBa0

We also treated the windshield with Rain-X, which helps even when the wipers aren’t running.

Haven’t  tried this on my Crosley yet, but assume it would work as well there. 

- Park
 
 



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Dennis Terdy

Re: Restoring vacuum wipers

PATRICIA GRITTI
 

Hi
Don't think there are seals in the wiper motors. When I opened mine up to restore them found a gob of grease that had gone solid. On that basis solvent is a good way to fix the motors.
Don

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Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2018 10:54 AM
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Subject:[Crosley-Gang] Restoring vacuum wipers

Hot tip for rejuvenating vacuum wipers...

On Erick’s 1965 Rambler they were barely functional. At the time they would swipe left across a wet windshield, but barely creep back to the right, and sometimes not at all.

I hooked a short piece of fuel line to the intake nipple on the vacuum motor, and dripped in Lucas Transmission Fix (which is supposed to renew seals). We worked the wipers by hand for a minute or two to suck the goo through the motor. It didn’t seem to help.

A week later I turned on the wipers, and WOW! The wipers work great and at a variety of speeds, and they work without too much variation at various throttle settings. We can live with these. Check out this video, driving through a thunderstorm in Oklahoma.... 

https://youtu.be/QBUUnicCBa0

We also treated the windshield with Rain-X, which helps even when the wipers aren’t running.

Haven’t  tried this on my Crosley yet, but assume it would work as well there. 

- Park
 
 

wipers, tension to widow

jane altman
 

QUESTION
1.  WIPERS HAVE NO TENSION ON WINDSHEILD. They are new to us original Crosley design.  There is no tension to hold to window.

Re: wipers, tension to widow

Spock Arnold
 

My best suggestion is to take a picture and post it.  We can better tell you what is wrong from that

On Aug 25, 2018 4:51 PM, jane altman <bchjanead@...> wrote:
QUESTION
1.  WIPERS HAVE NO TENSION ON WINDSHEILD. They are new to us original Crosley design.  There is no tension to hold to window.

Re: wipers, tension to widow

fred@...
 

Make sure the springs are attached correctly

Re: wipers, tension to widow

L.E. Hardee
 

The problem is with the wiper arm, not the motor.  As already stated, check the little spring inside the arm.  Sometimes the spring stop on the wire part of the arm slips so that the spring isn't compressed much or any at all.  It should take a noticeable pressure to hook the arm base on the wiper shaft.  Also occasionally the Little "C" shaped pivot inside the arm will fall out and get lost.  This piece of metal is what gives the arm the off center line of force that causes the wiper to grip the windshield. 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:08 PM, <fred@...> wrote:
Make sure the springs are attached correctly


Transmission question / upgrade

robert@...
 

I have a 1950 Crosley station wagon. I'd like to make it more of a daily driver by upgrading the transmission, specifically something with spiral cut gears and synchronizers. I've seen pictures of a Crofton Bug transmission and it appears to have exactly what I'm looking for. Can a Crofton Bug transmission be mated to a Crosley engine and tranny cross member?

Thank you
Robert

Re: Transmission question / upgrade

Steve
 

To mate the Crofton transmission (T96 Jeep / Rambler / Kaiser) transmission to the Crosley engine, you need a Crofton bell housing.  That will be difficult to find.  The crossmember is not a fit.  The Crofton transmission is much larger than the Crosley transmission.  Next you have the problem of adapting the closed torque tube of the Crosley to transmission.  I own both a Crofton Bug and Crosleys.  I recommend practicing your double-clutching on the Crosley before attempting to do put the Bug transmission into your Crosley.

 

-Steve M.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of robert@...
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 1:50 AM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] Transmission question / upgrade

 

I have a 1950 Crosley station wagon. I'd like to make it more of a daily driver by upgrading the transmission, specifically something with spiral cut gears and synchronizers. I've seen pictures of a Crofton Bug transmission and it appears to have exactly what I'm looking for. Can a Crofton Bug transmission be mated to a Crosley engine and tranny cross member?

Thank you
Robert

Restoration advice

Joe Brownsberger
 

Hi everyone, I am looking to move forward in the restoration process and I think im ready to pull the body off the chassis. I'm looking for insight and advice as to things I've missed or things I'll need to know moving forward. All that I'very done so far is remove windows and seats, nothing else. I'll have more pictures if needed.

Re: Transmission question / upgrade

Jane Altman
 

I know the Crosley transmission is a challenge, but I agree with Steve.  Since squirting my Crosley people have stopped by to share stories of people who used these as daily driver "back in the day".  It's party of the fun of owning a Crosley.
Favorite story: A guy drives his Crosley to a bar, stops to have a drink or two with friends.  His friends, after engaging him into sharing a few, run outside and lift his Crosley into some milk crates.  Will, you can imagine the laughter when he comes out of the bar and tried to go home...

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018, 7:48 AM <robert@...> wrote:
I have a 1950 Crosley station wagon. I'd like to make it more of a daily driver by upgrading the transmission, specifically something with spiral cut gears and synchronizers. I've seen pictures of a Crofton Bug transmission and it appears to have exactly what I'm looking for. Can a Crofton Bug transmission be mated to a Crosley engine and tranny cross member?

Thank you
Robert

Re: Transmission question / upgrade

Steve
 

Also finding a top-shift variant of the Crofton transmission could be challenging.  The majority of vehicles using the T96 were side shift for steering column mounted shifters.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 10:26 AM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Transmission question / upgrade

 

To mate the Crofton transmission (T96 Jeep / Rambler / Kaiser) transmission to the Crosley engine, you need a Crofton bell housing.  That will be difficult to find.  The crossmember is not a fit.  The Crofton transmission is much larger than the Crosley transmission.  Next you have the problem of adapting the closed torque tube of the Crosley to transmission.  I own both a Crofton Bug and Crosleys.  I recommend practicing your double-clutching on the Crosley before attempting to do put the Bug transmission into your Crosley.

 

-Steve M.

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of robert@...
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 1:50 AM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: [Crosley-Gang] Transmission question / upgrade

 

I have a 1950 Crosley station wagon. I'd like to make it more of a daily driver by upgrading the transmission, specifically something with spiral cut gears and synchronizers. I've seen pictures of a Crofton Bug transmission and it appears to have exactly what I'm looking for. Can a Crofton Bug transmission be mated to a Crosley engine and tranny cross member?

Thank you
Robert

Re: Restoration advice

Mike <seller432@...>
 

You might want to look into adding some door bars&cross bracing. My floor and rockers need replacing so I had to brace everything up before pulling body. 

On Aug 26, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Joe Brownsberger <jbraunsberg@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, I am looking to move forward in the restoration process and I think im ready to pull the body off the chassis. I'm looking for insight and advice as to things I've missed or things I'll need to know moving forward. All that I'very done so far is remove windows and seats, nothing else. I'll have more pictures if needed.

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Re: Restoration advice

crosleyshortsport
 

Joe,  Looks like you have a pretty straight wagon to start with. I started my '48 wagon 25 months ago. I will post a puc for you. I recommend pulling the steering wheel next, then the radiator and grill. That way the steering box and column will pull out through the grill area. Remember to put it back in before the radiator and grill when at that point. There are two body bolts at the rear lower gate that go into the frame, three more at each door sill that go into the frame outriggers. And two more that tie the fenders to the frame on each side of the engine bay. 12 total. When I removed the rear side glass, I did not realize the frames came out. There were six tiny screws holding them in, they were put through the weatherstrip into the frame and body. Though I am not a professional at all, I have been playing with Crosley for 47 years. Contact me anytime.  Jeffrey

On Aug 26, 2018 3:02 PM, "Mike via Groups.Io" <seller432=aim.com@groups.io> wrote:
You might want to look into adding some door bars&cross bracing. My floor and rockers need replacing so I had to brace everything up before pulling body. 

On Aug 26, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Joe Brownsberger <jbraunsberg@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, I am looking to move forward in the restoration process and I think im ready to pull the body off the chassis. I'm looking for insight and advice as to things I've missed or things I'll need to know moving forward. All that I'very done so far is remove windows and seats, nothing else. I'll have more pictures if needed.

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Re: Restoration advice

parkhunter@...
 

Jeffrey’s list of the body bolts is great. Also, take off the rockets before lifting the body - I learned the hard way while trying to reinstall my body that they don’t clear the frame outriggers. 

Also, if you put a strap the the roof and try to lift, the A pillars may start to separate. 

This was dumb. Don’t do it this way...

- Park




Re: Restoration advice

parkhunter@...
 

Rockers, not rockets. (Curse you, autocorrect!) This isn’t Janes Bond’s Crosley. 

- Park

Re: Restoration advice

nobadrivers
 

Great and valuable information here!!!  Park,  if you don't recommend lifting with the strap from the roof what do you recommend?  A bunch of friends helping lift it off?  It's kind of hard to tell from the picture what's going on unless it's just the two guys lifting the body or is it the two guys helping lift with the body strap?

Re: Restoration advice

parkhunter@...
 

I don’t have a good recommendation. By the time we discovered the strap was a bad idea, we had to improvise with two people teetering on stools who could barely support the car’s body. Then we discovered the rockers wouldn’t clear, prolonging our agony. We survived, but barely. 

Probably four people could lift the body without too much trouble, but I’d recommend asking wiser heads on this list for their advice. 

Good luck!

- Park

Re: Restoration advice

nobadrivers
 

Thank you for the good advice you gave us concerning the rocker panels and "A" pillars. This information can save other members the trouble that you experienced.  I also have a Ford Model Y English car and looking through the Model Y club forum I belong to it shows them lifting the body off using the automotive lift arms.  I have a lift and this is what I was going to do with my Crosley Wagon until you mentioned the pillars not being strong enough. I guess I will not use this method. It must be the Model Y A pillars are much stronger.  Maybe making some sort of struts or supports to attach along side of the pillars is the way to go so that the strap method or the lift arm method can still be used.  

Re: Restoration advice

crosleyshortsport
 

Joe,  Good thing Park mentioned the rockers, I forgot that part. Also, I had built two large sawhorses on casters for the body. I am not kidding, my 14 year old daughter and I lifted the body on to the sawhorses.


On Mon, Aug 27, 2018, 7:40 AM <parkhunter@...> wrote:
I don’t have a good recommendation. By the time we discovered the strap was a bad idea, we had to improvise with two people teetering on stools who could barely support the car’s body. Then we discovered the rockers wouldn’t clear, prolonging our agony. We survived, but barely. 

Probably four people could lift the body without too much trouble, but I’d recommend asking wiser heads on this list for their advice. 

Good luck!

- Park

Re: Restoration advice

Barry Smedley
 

I just used a cherry picker a 4x4 and chain. No problem.

 

   Barry Smedley

 

From: Crosley-Gang@groups.io [mailto:Crosley-Gang@groups.io] On Behalf Of nobadrivers
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:05 AM
To: Crosley-Gang@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Crosley-Gang] Restoration advice

 

Thank you for the good advice you gave us concerning the rocker panels and "A" pillars. This information can save other members the trouble that you experienced.  I also have a Ford Model Y English car and looking through the Model Y club forum I belong to it shows them lifting the body off using the automotive lift arms.  I have a lift and this is what I was going to do with my Crosley Wagon until you mentioned the pillars not being strong enough. I guess I will not use this method. It must be the Model Y A pillars are much stronger.  Maybe making some sort of struts or supports to attach along side of the pillars is the way to go so that the strap method or the lift arm method can still be used.  

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